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TrueFaith77 10-24-2009 07:49 AM

Shut Us Down: Elizabethtown Version
 
Unfortunately, both iTunes AND Amazon mp3 are selling the long version of Shut Us Down from the Elizabethtown soundtrack only if you buy the whole album, rather than as an individual download.

Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone can speak to the differences between the Elizabethtown version and the Under the Skin version.

Is the longer Elizabethtown version worth 10 bucks?

Little Nicki 10-24-2009 09:35 AM

I believe that version has the extended bridge/guitar solo part. You should be able to find it on youtube, so I'm not sure about it being worth ten bucks. But I will say that that guitar part is one of my all time favorite Lindsey moments. I just think it is an absolutely brilliant part. He does play the solo part live, but it's a dumbed down and simplified version of it.

I respected his whole "no lead guitar" decision on Under the Skin completely - I thought it was a pretty bold conceptual idea. But I was sad that Shut Us Down had to be shortened because of it.

Edit: Actually I don't see it on youtube anymore. It must have been on his own channel, but he took everything down awhile back. I'm pretty sure I have it on a mp3 somewhere, but we're not allowed to share commercially available stuff on here... What to do...

ramattack22 10-24-2009 12:31 PM

I was literally going to post the exact same question. I've also been searching for this version and have unfortunately come up empty-handed.

Erin 10-24-2009 02:21 PM

Yes, it's worth it. Elizabethtown is one of my favorite soundtracks. Lots of great stuff on there besides Shut Us Down. I discovered Ryan Adams and Patty Griffin because of this soundtrack. Some great tracks by Tom Petty I'd never heard, love the I-nine song as well. Buy it! The actual CD is only 8.99 on Amazon.

Nico 10-24-2009 04:20 PM

It is worth it because the soundtrack is excellent on a whole and I personally find the longer version superior. I think Shut Us Down is a beautiful song. Go to Amazon and listen to the clips of the other songs to make a decision, though.

trackaghost 10-24-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nico (Post 849796)
It is worth it because the soundtrack is excellent on a whole and I personally find the longer version superior. I think Shut Us Down is a beautiful song. Go to Amazon and listen to the clips of the other songs to make a decision, though.


What Nico said. I actually own two copies of the Elizabethtown soundtrack.

Musicman408 10-24-2009 05:59 PM

Why is it that I had no idea that this song was in this movie???? How awesome!!!

TrueFaith77 10-24-2009 07:38 PM

^^^We should do a list of all the soundtracks on which Mac-related songs first appeared.

What's better: "Holiday Road" or "Twist of Fate"? :lol:

TrueFaith77 10-24-2009 09:06 PM

^^^i bought the whole album on itunes. though i prolly shoulda got the cd. :lol:

ETA: And, yes, I have to say: this song alone was totally worth 10 bucks.

Nico 10-24-2009 09:41 PM

I'm glad you did TrueFaith! I think you'll enjoy the other songs on the album. If you haven't heard Tom Petty's Square One, well, I'll just say it's gorgeous. And so is My Father's Gun by Elton John (old school Elton). And the Ryan Adams tune, Patty Griffin's, and the Hombres song are all awesome.

I think LB's and TP's (newer) song are the standouts on the album for me.

louielouie2000 10-25-2009 02:23 AM

How is it I never noticed there was a difference between the Elizabethtown Shut Us Down and the Under The Skin one? I guess because I probably listened to UTS just a couple of times. I think it's the weakest material Lindsey ever released. :sorry:

The Elizabethtown soundtrack however is just wonderful. The songs are just stellar. For anyone who hasn't seen the movie, go rent it NOW!! It'll make you laugh and cry... at the same time lol. It's one of the neatest little movies I've ever seen. I'm not usually one for soundtrack albums, but this one is just very special to me.

GypsySorcerer 10-25-2009 08:37 AM

^^^ I actually thought Elizabethtown was dreadful. Bloody awful. :o

Nico 10-25-2009 11:17 AM

lol! Louie, it's fascinating how opinions vary so. I couldn't stand that movie one bit, but I absolutely agree with your summation of the soundtrack (though NOT UTS).

My favorite film with an LB song will always be National Lampoon's Vacation. Back when Chevy Chase was funny.

TrueFaith77 10-25-2009 11:18 AM

Back to the Future is the best MOVIE with a Lindsey song -- just not the best Lindsey song. (p.s. - I also like Vacation)

michelej1 10-25-2009 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 849942)
Back to the Future is the best MOVIE with a Lindsey song -- just not the best Lindsey song.

And I think it is one of the best Lindsey songs. So, it tops my movie list too.

I really don't know what to say about Holiday Road. I'm glad he has a song that everyone knows. I love the video, love the exposure for LB, but I don't know what I think of that song. I don't know what I would think of the song if it just appeared on an LB album. It's like Don't Stop. I can't have an independent opinion of it anymore. It's just too poppy and popular.



Michele

Nico 10-25-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 849963)
And I think it is one of the best Lindsey songs. So, it tops my movie list too.

I really don't know what to say about Holiday Road. I'm glad he has a song that everyone knows. I love the video, love the exposure for LB, but I don't know what I think of that song. I don't know what I would think of the song if it just appeared on an LB album. It's like Don't Stop. I can't have an independent opinion of it anymore. It's just too poppy and popular.



Michele

I think it's perfectly fine not to have an opinion of that song. It's just one of those songs, like those uber-popular Beatles songs, that transcend independent opinion, imo.

I was visiting my friend's grandfather at his nursing home and they were using the song in one of those step aerobics classes. It was kind of cute, maybe a little disturbing, to see them all singing along (one woman was using arms). My other friend runs a day care and made a playlist of popular songs and HR was a favorite.

I do think it's cute that the song is such a hit with little kids and the elderly, though. Even if neither know who LB is.

golddustdrummer 10-25-2009 05:45 PM

I don't get the deal with not liking HR or Don't Stop just because they are popular. For me, I love to know that people love Lindsey's songs or Fleetwood Mac songs. Just because they are popular and well-known doesn't make it less appealing for me. I can still appreciate the song for what it is, independent from what it is so often attached to. I can listen to HR and not think of Vacation, I can hear Don't Stop and not have Bill Clinton enter my head (thankfully). just because something is popular doesn't mean I have to automatically not like it. Its just the idea of the whole "everyone else likes it, so I can't like it" thing that bugs me.

michelej1 10-25-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by golddustdrummer (Post 850009)
I don't get the deal with not liking HR or Don't Stop just because they are popular. For me, I love to know that people love Lindsey's songs or Fleetwood Mac songs. Just because they are popular and well-known doesn't make it less appealing for me. I can still appreciate the song for what it is, independent from what it is so often attached to. I can listen to HR and not think of Vacation, I can hear Don't Stop and not have Bill Clinton enter my head (thankfully). just because something is popular doesn't mean I have to automatically not like it. Its just the idea of the whole "everyone else likes it, so I can't like it" thing that bugs me.

I don't dislike it because everyone else likes it. There are some songs you can hear with virgin ears, even when they're familiar to you. I think GYOW is one of those songs. I think HR is not.

I just hear it too much or -- it just stopped having an impact on my brain. With Don't Stop, it's not just Bill Clinton. By the time I knew who Fleetwood Mac was in 1979, I already knew Don't Stop too well -- and I didn't even know who sang it really.

With Holiday Road, I just never judged it as a song. I was thrilled that Lindsey got exposure in a hit movie. I was insane about the video. I thought the woof, woofs at the end were cute. I thought it was a movie jingle and never judged it as a song. I would like to know what I would have thought about it if it had appeared on a Lindsey album and if that's where I'd heard it for the first time. I never got to form that kind of independent impression of it. He has other movie songs, but they were never as ubiquitous. So, I think of them in their own right. Not as soundtrack fodder.

Frankly, I'm proud that he has a song (other than GYOW) that the world knows. On the other hand, it's too airy to be something that I want everyone else to remember him by.

I can tell you that as his tour went on, I wouldn't have minded seeing HR dropped from the setlist. It was fine the first few times and I know the band and the audience got into the howling fun. I am always happy when Lindsey is being silly -- but I was kind of over HR live.

Michele

Erin 10-25-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 850013)
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I can tell you that as his tour went on, I wouldn't have minded seeing HR dropped from the setlist. It was fine the first few times and I know the band and the audience got into the howling fun. I am always happy when Lindsey is being silly -- but I was kind of over HR live.

Michele

This reminds of the opposite reaction of my friend's husband. When LB played Summerfest a couple of years ago I went off to see him, while my friend and her husband went to the Goo Goo Dolls. As an aside other friends went to see Lifehouse and Sarah Evans, talk about a nightmare trying to find everybody at the end of the night, but I digress. As we were driving home I played Holiday Road from the show on my camera, and my friend's husband's reaction was:"What the hell? Why didn't you tell me he sang that song? I would have gone to see him rather than the Goo Goo Dolls, again." My friend was none too pleased, but I thought it was funny. Lindsey's got to get them in any way he can!

Nico 10-25-2009 08:26 PM

I think Holiday Road is a great song, though, and I am proud to say it's by Lindsey. He deserves any kind of admiration he can get, even if it's for a simple 2-minute long poppy-style singalong that doesn't go too far in terms of lyrics. Great music is great music, but universally appreciated music is often quite misunderstood- even by me.:nod:

TrueFaith77 10-25-2009 08:37 PM

I think the song is sublime -- those oooa-ooooa's!
And rhythmically/thematically it's a masterpiece: "Jack be nimble / Jack be quick"
It's as American as Br'er Rabbit.

michelej1 10-25-2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Erin (Post 850027)
Lindsey's got to get them in any way he can!

I agree with that. That's why when we were talking about what albums to get first in that other thread, I was pulling for the most commercially accessible albums as an introduction. Once we lure them into our cult and have them prisoner, we can spriing Law and Order on them later:lol:.

Michele

Nico 10-26-2009 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 850059)
I agree with that. That's why when we were talking about what albums to get first in that other thread, I was pulling for the most commercially accessible albums as an introduction. Once we lure them into our cult and have them prisoner, we can spriing Law and Order on them later:lol:.

Michele

I know, right? That's how it's done here in LB land. However, I did meet this peculiar fellow at an LB concert. Super nice guy. Claimed to me that Law & Order was always his favorite solo album and Under the Skin his least. I was just a little surprised, but pleasantly so (for L&O). It certainly is an album for acquired taste, but there are pure gems on it.

TrueFaith77 10-26-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nico (Post 850099)
I know, right? That's how it's done here in LB land. However, I did meet this peculiar fellow at an LB concert. Super nice guy. Claimed to me that Law & Order was always his favorite solo album and Under the Skin his least. I was just a little surprised, but pleasantly so (for L&O). It certainly is an album for acquired taste, but there are pure gems on it.

It had always been my favorite. Only recently have I begun to move toward GOS as being greater. I love the SOUND and inventiveness of L&O. But song for song GOS wins. For a cohesive album experience, they're about even.

Nico 10-26-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 850103)
It had always been my favorite. Only recently have I begun to move toward GOS as being greater. I love the SOUND and inventiveness of L&O. But song for song GOS wins. For a cohesive album experience, they're about even.

It's so ridiculous to wonder about people's personal preferences anyway, but since it's not the norm to prefer Law & Order over the others I'm curious to know what it is about it that jumps out for you.

michelej1 07-01-2016 11:24 PM

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bombaysaffires 07-02-2016 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nico (Post 849969)
I think it's perfectly fine not to have an opinion of that song. It's just one of those songs, like those uber-popular Beatles songs, that transcend independent opinion, imo.

I was visiting my friend's grandfather at his nursing home and they were using the song in one of those step aerobics classes. It was kind of cute, maybe a little disturbing, to see them all singing along (one woman was using arms). My other friend runs a day care and made a playlist of popular songs and HR was a favorite.

I do think it's cute that the song is such a hit with little kids and the elderly, though. Even if neither know who LB is.

Holiday Road is the ringtone I use on my phone for my husband. Our first real date was at Lindsey's show in Vegas in 2007, and it was the only LB song he knew before we started dating. :angel:


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