Will Fleetwood Mac release a new album by the end of 2010?
 

I hope nobody is getting annoyed by these polls.

With all the media rumours, I thought it would be interesting to see what people think?

It's certainly possible.

I think they will. I'm not sure it will be an album of all new songs though, but we should get a handful.

Michele

With them, I'll beleive it when I see it... although I much rather have solo albums at this point..

No way they could get a studio album done that fast.

It is really possible, but I don´t think it would be so quick... but it would be awesome. And I don´t know what kind of new stuff I would prefer (I mean if solo albums, or Fleetwood Mac). It´s true that Fleetwood Mac album would be probably more famous... or... you know what I mean. But I definitely like Trouble In Shangri-La much more than Say You Will. It´s not that I´m fan of Stevie and don´t care about Lindsey at all, but I just compare Stevie´s songs there and there. And TISL is damn better! But who knows how would it be next year...

But I still think that sometime Stevie will record something new... alone or with FM... we´ll see... it will be interesting next year.

But I didn´t forget. This time last year I would really laugh if you told me that I´ll see Fleetwood Mac live... well, it happens... so I would´t say anything about recording new album now :).

I voted yes, how much stuff must they still have laying around?

Think of all the 'old new' tracks that showed up on Say You Will, especially Stevie's, and Lindsey's stuff was mostly solo work. So it wouldn't take as long as the 70's/80's stuff.

- Spike

I really am hoping and have my fingers crossed, since I haven't witnessed a new release. I voted yes!!

I never thought I'd be saying this, but I almost DON'T want a new album, unless it's really, REALLY good! To me, SAY YOU WILL, while OK, just seemed like two solo albums smooshed together, with a REALLY good rhythm section tossed in.
I would need Stevie and Lindsey to REALLY write for a FLEETWOOD MAC album, maybe even doing some stuff together (though I doubt that will EVER happen!).
Needless to say, I would be waiting with baited breath if a release date WERE announced!!:blob2:

Even if they record a new album, it won't be out until '11 at the earliest, since they can't tour North America again until at least '11.

I think they were not glad with the SYW commercial results (silly, cause no old band can make a blockbuster with new songs, it's very hard though not impossible). But.. I'm just supposing

I voted yes ... maybe just wishful thinking but I think they probably have some songs they haven't put out there yet.. like some we got on the SYW album ... I hope they are new and refreshing tho.. REALLY REALLY hope so!!

Nope! It takes them around 18 months+ to record and release these days. That means they would have had to start recording this past June for a Christmas 2010 release. They are supposedly meeting in January to discuss recording again. For ****s and giggles, let's say they decide to begin recording a new album during that meeting (which at this point, I am highly doubtful of). They'll take a good 6 months off after January to recover from their world tour, and spend that time searching for a recording venue and a producer. With all the egos involved, that will be no easy task getting everyone to agree on common ground for all this. So we're looking at an earliest possible start date for recording in June 2010. That means an earliest possible release date of around Christmas 2011. And I'm being very conservative... I think it will likely take longer because everyone will say they need a big break after the tour, then they'll fight and bitch about a recording venue, and ESPECIALLY a producer. Mark my words, that will be a big showdown, and could sink the project altogether. And this is all assuming they decide in January that they really want to move forward with a new album at all! :rolleyes:

I can't understand why the Twilight producers didn't get FMac to do a song for the soundtrack. Seems a no-brainer to me.

And you know this how?

I'll take a stab at this Luke.... cos they've saturated the market and know they won't sell tickets if they tour any sooner...

Maybe by the end of 2013

Bingo! :thumbsup:

They've sure saturated my market.

Mine too. They stopped 3+ times in my area for the SYW tour. Now they're back hitting those exact same markets multiple times sans any new material... yawn. You know you're in trouble when you've even tired your hardcore fanbase.

I hope not. I feel like they'd do a lot of recycling if they hoped to get an album out that fast.

For the "greatest hits tour" maybe... NOT for any new materials! I know I'd race out to by a ticket for this one, knowing it's all new music! Haven't thought about that one did ya?:)

Bingo for who? Not any FM fans I know, and I've been around awhile! ;)

Not necessarily. Artists used to release 2 albums a year. Any less than one every year, to me, is lazy. The Pet Shop Boys have released, on average, an album's worth of new music every year this decade. And it's all be superb. Same with Morrissey (since coming out of "retirement" in 2004).

Not mine by a long shot.. and I have a feeling that I speak for a LOT of the die hard fans! I'm DYING to hear new music, and I'd go to hear them perform it all in a New York second! :wavey:

Exactly Dani!! And they do! I can't wait to see them come out with some new material.. :xoxo:

It's already been quoted that they have "TONS" of music left over from SYW that didn't get added to that album.. If you look at FM's track record of coming out with new albums, you will see their pattern. These guys have never been a band to come out with 2 albums in one year.. You're comparing apples to onions here.. LOL.. It's definitely time for FM to put a new album - and they'll do just that! ;)

Yeah, but you're forgetting who we are talking about. It took a while to make Say You Will and they pretty much had all of Lindsey's songs already done, minus Stevie's backing vocals and little tweaks here and there. If they were to release something within a year, I think we'd get a lot of leftovers from the Say You Will sessions... and I just think they'd do a lot better if they went into the studio with a totally new slate. They don't necessarily need to be writing totally new songs-- but I'd like any near-completed recordings to be taken off the table. For one, if it wasn't good enough for an 18 track album in 2003, it ain't gonna be good enough now. And also, I really want to see the band writing and producing with their own personal issues from SYW in their minds. Obviously many of the fans and the band itself are not fully satisfied with SYW... I personally think that it sounds like two solo albums crashed into one. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the individual tracks on the album. But as a unit, it isn't "Mac"-- it's Stevie and Lindsey.... and at times, maybe Stevie vs. Lindsey. I don't want to listen to any future releases and say the exact same thing. I'd rather wait a little longer as long as the extension is well used to make better material... and that they stay in the best musical form possible (specifically in voice).

Because the SYW tour was all about the SYW album. Right.

Harsh reality: even a full Rumours reunion lineup tour in Summer 2010 (complete with new studio album) would be hard pressed to outsell (or even match) what the Unleashed tour did. Only way this hypothetical tour does better than Unleashed is if you move it to the Fall and call it a "Farewell Tour".

NYSE/NASDAQ aside, the economy is only getting worse. They took way too much money out of practically every viable market in North America, sputtering through more than a few major embarrassments/cancellations along the way.

A new album would be great for fans, but lets be real. At LEAST half (if not more) of the people who attended an Unleashed show would never purchase a new FM studio album.

Actually, the harsh reality here may be that because the Rumors cd/dvd is tied up in legal issues right now, truth be known on that, we may never know when they release that one. We're not discussing the "Rumors" issue now at all, as that's not even on the table! As has been stated, it will be a new album full of all "NEW" materials!

We're NOT comparing an "Unleashed" tour to a tour with new materials, and a new cd! You can say what you will, but I'm taking a poll now on facebook, as I have over 300 "Fleetwood Mac" fans on my friend's list who completely and uttlerly "DISAGREE" in every level to what you are saying, and will be standing in a line, like "MOST" of us fans - in a heartbeat!!! And I SOO can't wait to be laughing at you, come tour time, once I see you saying how you're going! And if you don't- it's just one better chance for a front row seat for me, and all of the rest of us die-hard fans! :rolleyes:

Oh, and a PS, if I were you, I wouldn't put any money down on any of us fans who attended a "Unleashed" show NOT purchasing a new Fleetwood Mac Studio album! You can be your own "Debbie Downer" all you want, but the facts will speak for themselves!

You call three cancellations, two of which were made up major? I think you exaggerate.
:rolleyes:

Exactly! Plus, after doing shows every other day..I don't feel that 3 cancellations hardly constitute any sort of embarrassment by a long shot! And yes.. they did make up 2 of those! :thumbsup:

Boy, I absolutely agree with everything you said! I know I for one, would find a way to scrape some money together to go see them if they toured in the future behind new material. Otherwise... I'm staying home. I just don't want to go hear the same songs year in and year out, slowly getting worse in form and function :sorry:. I'd rather remember them for their searing performances of the SYW tour: the passion behind the new songs, next to the comforting familiarity of the classics.

Moving on, it honestly slipped my mind about SYW taking 18 months, with over half the songs being completed at the beginning of those 18 months. Yikes. It could be a WHILE before we get some new material. But I really don't think we'll see an 18 track album next time around (assuming there will be such an album, of course). I'm hoping they'll make a tighter, more concise statement ala Rumours, Gift Of Screws, etc. That's what they need... around 12 solid, familiar yet fresh sounding tunes which have different personalities, but sit well together in context. SYW was so rambling and scattered that the point it was trying to make was utterly lost. You'd think if Stevie and Lindsey can nail this idea of precision with TISL and GOS, that they could together make it happen in FM. I suppose we'll see... or maybe not.

Arlene, I love you :D


Oh, and I voted yes! I'm not sure if they will, but I sure hope so. I'd love for it to be something that they love more importantly. And if not by 2010, I'm hopeful for an early 2011 release. As long as I get to see them again, I'll be happy ;)

There ya go.. You and everyone else in Fleetwood Macdom, or a lot of us will definitely be standing in a line pretty quickly to see them do some new material! I know starting with myself, I'll definitely buy the cd upon it coming out, and buying a good ticket to see them tour with it! :thumbsup:

Awwww.. I love you too! I SO wish it won't take them long, but they are normally all about "quality".. I do agree with Dani, with what she said about SYW sounding like 2 collaborations a bit.. but I do feel they put their heart and soul into their work- as a whole. And who knows when it will be released, but it's SOOO good to know that it's all going to be "in the works" - which is fantastic! I too, voted "yes".. as I know it's going to be done. I'm hoping to see it be done before the end of 2010- but again, if not.. it's all good to me, just as long as I know it's happening- I'm GREAT with that! :thumbsup:

Hugs,

Arlene

First of all, I'm glad we are on the same page Louie. :)

Also, Luke has a point. Everyone in Mac is 60+ and they haven't had a big hit album for over 10 years. They have to cut the crap and make something really noteworthy if they expect to match the Unleashed tour results... let alone surpass them. It's going to get harder and harder for them to be successful as time goes on just because they are fading more and more. As Stevie lovingly said on Destiny Rules, the typical Mac generation isn't "sitting around smoking dope and watching Billboard to see what they need to buy as their next record!" Even when Stevie and Mac's album quality has been questionable, they were still able to sell because they were somewhat current. They don't have that benefit anymore.

Which basically means that if they're going to put the work into getting another album out, they better as hell make it worth it. Because if they were disappointed with SYW sales, it's not going to be any better this time around. We all love them and will buy anything they put out without a question, but we are a very select group of people, people. They need to work ten times harder to make even a fraction of the impression that they used to make on the music scene. So cut the **** and get writing and recording! They can't go around doing greatest hits tours forever. I will follow this band to my grave so yes, I would be at those shows.... but I'd do it a bit spitefully if they let whatever is left of their creative potential go down the drain. They aren't getting any younger, either.

You're slightly mistaken. Rochester & Greensboro were both canceled far in advance due to disastrous (not an exaggeration) ticket sales (I don't consider the 2nd Toronto show a "makeup"- more like a fill date). Sacramento was due to be rescheduled, but after something like 20% of the tickets (presumably from amateur scalpers) got returned after the postponement, the show got blown out. Edmonton & Calgary got rescheduled because they were two of the half dozen or so shows that did extremely well.

As for the embarrassments, see: SLC, Milwaukee, MSG #2, Baltimore, Manchester, Tampa, Orlando, St. Louis, Omaha, Rosemont #2, Albany.. and at least one or two more than I'm forgetting. The main reason why half of those shows weren't canceled is because they got enough action on the 2-for-1/allocating previously priced $135 tickets to 2-for-$60 packages. Greensboro didn't, and that's why it got axed.

Luke, you can moan all you want to, regarding what you "feel" is disastrous- but there's a LOT of us, who actually are NOT Debbie Downers, like yourself, and feel that the Mac laughs all the way to the bank, my friend! I have no idea as to what you're talking about on ANY shows being 2-for 60$ or any packages for that! I never saw them when it came time for my show, and trust me, I searched everywhere! The best I could do was 250$ PER ticket- and that wasn't on the floor, even though I didn't want to sit in a floor seat in our venue! The side seats by the stage are much better, IMO..

At any rate, no matter how "down" you may be about this band, this is WHY you are on this very board, is it not?? I'm definitely, again, NOT one of the FM/Stevie people that feel they can do no wrong, as I've seen them in concert since 1981- and I have seen what they are all about. In a nutshell, they will ALWAYS be one of my favorite, all time bands and there is nothing or NO ONE on this board, or anywhere that could ever change my mind ! :thumbsup:

Fleetwood Mac shouldn't be laughing. Live Nation was far from satisfied with the results of the Unleashed tour. Barring a "farewell" tour, when it comes to the ridiculously high up-front fee they've been accustomed to the last two tours, they have ZERO leverage for such a tour in 2010. So, pardon me for being a "Debbie Downer" for considering things like "facts" & "trends" and impersonal concepts like "over-saturation" when discussing the band's future- it doesn't make me any less of a fan. ESPECIALLY since its generally accepted by most (not just me) that the band basically exists in 2009 to make money... and where do 99.9% of all bands make most of their money?

I stand corrected- it was 2 previously-$135 tickets for $80 (for Omaha) http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=39995

Other links to help refresh your memory ($25 tickets galore):
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=39835
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=39899

Almost every show had hundreds of tickets given away- the ten-or-so shows that I listed each had over a thousand comps out.

Do not pretend or presume to have even the slightest clue why I've chosen to be a part of this community for 12+ years. Thank you.

Let's face it, we don't have decades left with this band so they need to focus on quality and not quanity. Hopefully the experience of touring together for a year and then heading into the studio will provide a more solid and stable foundation to produce an album from the ground up.

I think the cohesiveness lacking in SYW can absolutely be attributed to the fact that everyone in the band attempted to join forces after being on completely separate paths for what 4-5 years? Maybe a little less? SYW was the first time in a long time they were really coming from four absolutely different places (not to mention the first time without Christine.) Obviously, a break in this duration is not uncommon for this band, but prior to SYW, well maybe at least prior to the Dance, they sort of were all coasting along their separate lives, but sort of at a similar pace. But in 2001-2002, at 50 something, they are all at such different milestones - Stevie in unattached and focused on her solo career, Lindsey is newly married with a growing family, Mick has his new girls, and John is raising a teenager but would probably rather be sailing. You get where I'm going. They were all really doing such different things in their lives, which probably wasn't so true when creating studio albums before this, and if it was, probably wasn't as evident as it was when creating SYW. Really, other then being in a band with legendary history what was common amongst them at that point? All this, plus the experience of doing an album 25 years past their heyday must have contributed to the lack of synergy and resulted in what seemed to be a collaboration of two artist's solo albums.

But, maybe, just maybe, if they can take the momentum that they have had by working with each other over the past year and being intertwined with each other's lives, and truly believe that a studio album can be a positive experience, we can see something wonderful from them in the future. :thumbsup: