Say You Will
 

So I finally went to buy "Say You Will". For some reason I never got it. But I was dying to hear "Say Goodbye". So I go to the record store (yes, a record store) in Pasadena, Ca. I find a used CD for $8.99. But it's just a plain cover. Not the picture cover. So I start whining to the guy if that's the only one they have and could they check if they have a cover for it. He says no and I buy it anyways. Now at this store they keep the actual CD packages behind the counter. So he gives it to me and it looks like a little book. The pictures are all glossy and clear and it has a second CD with a few extra songs. I guess it was the deluxe edition which I didn't know existed. Needless to say, I am now very happy and listening to it. But I must say I think I prefer the live version of "Say Goodbye". The best live version being from the DVD of the show in Boston in 2004. I wish that one was on the CD for that DVD. It's the most emotional one I've heard. That's what made me fall in love with that song. Anyways, just my little story.

:) It took me a long time to buy SYW too. But I love it.

The Album version of Say Goodbye is very odd. I don't know what compelled Lindsey to have the song at that speed?

Say You Will was the second Fleetwood Mac album i bought after Tango in the night weirdly enough.

Tri,

Check out the live version of "Say Goodbye" from the special edition of Buckingham's "Under the Skin" (It was also the same version on his SoundStage DVD) ;)

Just because we're talking about this recording...




It KILLS ME every time.

I prefer dis' a one:

awww you guys are bringing up such great memories of the say you will tour:thumbsup:~

i love this song~ it's very sweet~

I love this album now, too, after listening to it last night.
So my ears aren't crazy, Say Goodbye does sound fast on the CD. Lindsey sounds like he has to rush some of his phrasing.
Does anyone know if there are any MP3's of any of these 2 live versions of this song? I think when they do it live it is one of Lindsey's best EVER. It stands up to any of his classic work. It's heart wrenching.

this is pretty funny that you just bought say you will too, I bought it on itunes last night, couldnt find it in any stores

Say You Will is where all of the Mac Magic started for me, so it brings back a lot of very positive memories!!!! :nod:

I love say you will so much. I just started listening to it again and its still so darn good. Say Goodbye is such a beautiful song and I love the live version so much more than the cd version. My hubby who isnt even a Mac fan absolutely loves this song. Oh how I remember the Say You Will tour so well. I saw them 3 times and that probably was the only time I will ever get to see them so many times on one tour or shall I say that was the only time I could afford to.

i got mine mid 2003
i think after The very Best cd
[it was my 2nd Mac cd too btw i think]
i had no idea there was a new cd
and i was soooooooooooooo excited
coz i was really just getting hooked on the Mac
it's still my favorite Mac album
i know heaps of ppl overall dont think it's very good or consistent
or wotever
but i think it's brilliant
and i was never really an LB fan
but i equally like his songs on there as i do stevie's :D
i just dont really like WTWCT or Silver Girl...used to but not so much now
EFO/Murrow/DR/Thrown Down, Say Goodbye.......top notch awesomeness :nod:
and RTTG is just it's own special lil song :p

what's ur top 5?

My favorites from listenin to this are

Thrown Down
Say You Will
Peacekeeper
Smile at You
Running through the garden
Steal your heart away
Everybody finds out
Destiny rules
Say goodbye

I dont think i've liked that many songs on a fleetwood album other than tusk

Top five favourites -
"Running Through The Garden"
"Illume"
"Destiny Rules"
"Come"
"Thrown Down"

I love:

"Murrow Turning Over In His Grave"
"Thrown Down"
"Red Rover"
"Everybody Finds Out"
"Destiny Rules"
"Bleed To Love Her"
"Say Goodbye"
"Goodbye Baby"

But honestly, I adore the entire album. Minus "Silver Girl".

6 years on... I still think "Thrown Down" is the best track on the album, followed by "Bleed to Love her"

Oh yeah, I love Bleed To Love Her. I loved it on The Dance CD and glad they did a studio recording of it.
Does anybody know how well the Say You Will Album did? Did it sell a lot. There's a lot of great songs that could have easily been singles on it. I can't wait for the next album.

I'm thinking it got close to a million units??

"Say Goodbye" was far more pure and poignant as a Lindsey solo recording (where it remains one of my very favorites) than it is on SYW, with Stevie's mawkish, cartoonish "duet" vocal tacked on.

Live, its just comes off as another canned, "powerful" S/L moment for the fans/shippers. Slow and boring.

I've come to appreciate this album a lot more over time. I really do love it now, even if it took some getting used to.

My top five tracks:
5. Bleed to Love Her
4. Miranda
3. Red Rover
2. Say Goodbye
1. Everybody Finds Out

I should say, "Bleed to Love Her" is my favorite Fleetwood Mac song, period. I'm just so very partial to the version from The Dance, and while I do love this version, the song isn't in the #1 spot for this album because The Dance version gets so much extra love (and listening).

I agree about the solo version being better than the one where they've just tacked Stevie in. The GOS version is also slightly clearer sonically. I don't know if that has to do with adding in more vocals or if it's the super-loud mastering job but there's more space in the un-mastered solo version.

As some of you no doubt know from my 'Lets Talk About...' thread on the Stevie board, for me it just doesn't get any better than Thrown Down on this album. Of course there are some other GREAT songs there too...Come, Say You Will, Destiny Rules, Murrow... but Thrown Down is just fantastic.

It took me a long time to like this album, primarily because of the absence of Christine on all but two tracks. For a while I was just not comfortable with the sound and the almost schizophrenic switch between the Lindsey and Stevie songs, without a 'happy medium'.

Now, I appreciate the work as a whole, although I think there are some utter clangers ('Silver Girl', for example and I can't stand 'Red Rover'). Stand out tracks for me are:-

5. Murrow Turning Over In His Grave
4. Say You Will
3. Peacekeeper
2. Steal Your Heart Away
1. Bleed to Love Her

i prefer the Dance version of Bleed to Love Her too...
but it's still good on SYW just not AS good :D

At first I missed the whoah, whoah, whoah Dance ending, but I really came to love the guitar work at the end on the Say You Will ending. So if the versions could be combined that would be the ultimate BTLH.

Wow, "Red Rover" is my favorite song on the album. That and "Illume".

I love "Red Rover" too, especially the heavy reverb. It's a great, great song. One of my favourites of Lindsey's off the album.

My fav's on the album are...
Thrown Down

Goodbye Baby
Say Goodbye
Come
Steal Your Heart Away

I love the whole album but if I was allowed to have only one track by Stevie and one by Lindsey, they would be Running Through The Garden and Murrow Turning Over In His Grave.

HA! Those are my 2 least faves...along with Miranda. ;)

I remember skipping class to buy SYW in college...haha. I drove all around town to jam out with it in my car...I think it is in my top 3 overall favorite mac albums...following Tusk and Rumours. I think it had a lot of great gems on it....The only songs i really skip over are:
Murrow
Red Rover
Silver Girl

There are a couple of "****ters" on the album, those in my opinion being "Peacekeeper" - my least favourite song on the entire album, I hate it and will always ask why it was chose as a single over say "Steal Your Heart Away" which is classic Fleetwood Mac style - "Silver Girl" (any song about Sheryl Crow is enough to make me vomit) - and I've never been overly impressed with "Miranda" either.

I love Miranda! I've heard a few people say they're not keen but it's totally one of my favourites on the album! Not at all keen on Silver Girl though, I think that seems to be a common opinion?!

I agree with you.
I dont really like illume, red rover, and miranda

Yes, I love Miranda. I had to make myself stop playing it, so I wouldn't burn out on it. Also, even though people don't like Stevie's vocals tacked on to many of the GOS songs, with Miranda, I believe her vocals added to the song. There's a flat, dissonant quality that suggests someone removed from reality in the tone, which expresses the message beautifully and with mystery.

When I was growing up, there was a song called Angie Baby about a girl descending into madness and I think Miranda strikes me in the same way as that one did.

And really, I thought the lyrics were stellar and opened the door to the great word work that Lindsey would also display throughout UTS.

Michele

SYW was Excellent but not half as good as it could have been.

I was just rereading Q's Reissue Reviews in the August 2009 issue and this is what they said about SYW:

With Christine McVie having finally decided she'd hd enough. Say You Will wasn't a full-scale reunion. But with Nicks and Buckingham once again in the fold, and Fleetwood and John McVie seemingly determined to carry on forever, it came as close as most fans could hope for. What they ended up with might have been separate Nicks and Buckingham albums randomly sequenced and shunted together. Twice as long as it should have been, nd often highlighting the pair's wildly divergent styles -- she intensely personal, he vaguely political -- it's a mess rather than a disaster.

Right now I have just come off a 2 month + period of listening to this album continuously in the car. (So glad I am not the only one who likes this album so much). Not sure if it is the constant repetition, but I love it. Some of the songs that ppl tend to not like (i.e. silver girl (has a good chorus) & I love peacekeeper), the only songs I skip tend to be Morrow and I can listen to the start of Red Rover and then have to go on.

Top 5:
1. Peacekeeper
2. Thrown Down
3. Destiny Rules
4. Steal Your Heart Away
5. Running Through the Garden

(Top 3 in no particular order, honestly)

Maybe bc we have all watched the DR doc and hear the songs here and there in the footage, there adds something to it all, but I love me some SN & LB together...nothing else to say but this is a great album and we all have different tastes as to what we may think is superior.

I liked the album, I just thought that it needed some piano on it, if they record another album I think there should be more piano on it

say it ain't so!! that song is about Sheryl freaking Crow??!