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daniellaaarisen 07-18-2009 09:03 PM

"What if..." -- alternate versions
 
As a collective group of what I presumably consider the biggest Fleetwood Mac fans around, I'm sure we've all considered the following questions. I want to know your responses! If you could magically unleash new, high quality recordings, tell me about what you'd choose as an alternative version of a released or unreleased song?

For example, I want an a capella version of "Crystal" with nothing but Lindsey and Stevie's voices together.

Also, I would have loved if "Smile At You" on Say You Will more closely resembled the angry version. And finally, I would KILL for a high quality version of the piano demo of "Silver Springs" that I requested a while ago.

nailatixela 07-18-2009 09:18 PM

I'd like soundboard quality shows to magically appear and fall into my lap of every show Fleetwood Mac ever played.

(or atleast for the entire Mirage tour)

LOL not like that will ever happen.

daniellaaarisen 07-18-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nailatixela (Post 831517)
I'd like soundboard quality shows to magically appear and fall into my lap of every show Fleetwood Mac ever played.

(or atleast for the entire Mirage tour)

LOL not like that will ever happen.

Hmmm great idea but I'll change that a little. I'd like a soundboard recording for every live performance of "Rhiannon", "Sisters of the Moon", and "I'm So Afraid", "Gold Dust Woman" and "Angel." Can't be too picky :)

Lala 07-18-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen (Post 831513)
For example, I want an a capella version of "Crystal" with nothing but Lindsey and Stevie's voices together.

Woah...that would be amazing.

Um...I would like the infamous 16 minute version of Sara...but produced exactly like the album version...NOT just the demo.

A nice, high quality version of If You Were My Love, ala Mirage Sessions, but taken to the next level, would be amazing.

I'd also request higher quality versions of Down Endless Street and You & I Part 1...but I guess they were B-Sides, correct? My 12-inch single is a misprint though...I have Part 2 instead. The versions I have are from the Tango Sessions, and I just feel like the quality could be better.

Lala 07-18-2009 10:07 PM

Two others I just thought of...

You Make Loving Fun with both the "it's all I wanna do" and "beginning to wonder why/feeling it's time to try" lines at the end.

Edge of Seventeen with "I know what it sounds like...when the doves cry" at the end, as an homage to Prince. Yes, I know, she hated Purple Rain and now they don't speak. I just always thought it would be the appropriate ending to that line. I sometimes sing it that way, and I always think...it must've crossed her mind...at least once.

Ooo...this is fun!

daniellaaarisen 07-18-2009 10:25 PM

Ugh I TOTALLY want that version of "Sara".

I also want like a 15 minute long soundboard recording of a super emotional, coked out Rhiannon live. Like, 2 minutes of the verses and 13 minutes of "dreams unwind...", getting taken by the sky, listening to Stevie wail like a lunatic and finish the song crying....

Omg I'd give both of my kidneys for that.

Lala 07-18-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen (Post 831532)
Ugh I TOTALLY want that version of "Sara".

I also want like a 15 minute long soundboard recording of a super emotional, coked out Rhiannon live. Like, 2 minutes of the verses and 13 minutes of "dreams unwind...", getting taken by the sky, listening to Stevie wail like a lunatic and finish the song crying....

Omg I'd give both of my kidneys for that.

With "Is this what you want?"...better than Mobile, AL 8-11-80

I'd keep at least one kidney, but still

David 07-18-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nailatixela (Post 831517)
I'd like soundboard quality shows to magically appear and fall into my lap of every show Fleetwood Mac ever played.

(or atleast for the entire Mirage tour)

Nail, do you have all the soundboards from 1982 that are circulating at least?

Here's what I know about from the sound mix board:

tour rehearsal 8-16-82
tour rehearsal 8-19-82 (with "Straight Back")
tour rehearsal ("Sisters of the Moon")
US Festival 9-05-82
East Rutherford 9-14-82 ("Sara")
Memphis 10-12-82
Baton Rouge 10-13-82 ("Sara," "Hold Me")
Baton Rouge 10-13-82 (entire show)
Denver 10-15-82
Oakland 10-20-82

David 07-18-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lala (Post 831539)
With "Is this what you want?"...better than Mobile, AL 8-11-80

I was going to mention Mobile, but Lala beat me to it.

It isn't 13 minutes, but it's almost 10 minutes.

As far as what I'd want, probably Jimmy Come On Back

vivfox 07-18-2009 10:58 PM

I would love to have all the Live concerts from the Tusk Tour that I currently don't have. There's about six of 'em.
I'd also love to have a DVD copy of the FM show from the first night of the Unleashed Tour. I know it exists. It was promised to me, but never delivered.

FMlex 07-18-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 831550)
I would love to have all the Live concerts from the Tusk Tour that I currently don't have. There's about six of 'em.
I'd also love to have a DVD copy of the FM show from the first night of the Unleashed Tour. I know it exists. It was promised to me, but never delivered.

You don't by chance need the one from St. Louis, MO, do you? I believe it's from September 1979. I just uploaded it on Mediafire and could easily post it for you if that's one of your missing ones.
It's a great show!!

vivfox 07-18-2009 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FMlex (Post 831555)
You don't by chance need the one from St. Louis, MO, do you? I believe it's from September 1979. I just uploaded it on Mediafire and could easily post it for you if that's one of your missing ones.
It's a great show!!

You know what, I don't think I've ever heard this whole show. I know the Tusk Doc we have been talkin' about in another thread took it's performances from this/these? show(s). Me, the expert on the Tusk Tour and I can't remember if there was 1 or 2 St. Louis shows?
Yeah I'd love to have it. Any possiblity you can post it as a zip file or Mp3's? I can't do torrents. If it's to much of a hassle don't worry about it.

One show I can think of offhand from the Tusk Tour I don't have and would like is from Wichita, Kansas in August 1980.

Moz 07-18-2009 11:35 PM

I wish I had a version of Smile At You (angry version) that was better in quality than the one I have.

daniellaaarisen 07-19-2009 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lala (Post 831539)
With "Is this what you want?"...better than Mobile, AL 8-11-80

I'd keep at least one kidney, but still

If you are trying to inform me about an epic Rhiannon performance then no, I have not heard this version.

LINK ME!

daniellaaarisen 07-19-2009 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 831550)
I would love to have all the Live concerts from the Tusk Tour that I currently don't have. There's about six of 'em.
I'd also love to have a DVD copy of the FM show from the first night of the Unleashed Tour. I know it exists. It was promised to me, but never delivered.

Sad fact... I have no complete show from the Tusk tour. This is extra sad considering it was my favorite FM era.

:(

daniellaaarisen 07-19-2009 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Moz (Post 831560)
I wish I had a version of Smile At You (angry version) that was better in quality than the one I have.

Mine's actually pretty decent but chances are its the same recording and I just have low expectations of demos. I hate being away from my own computer... can't compare :(

Sanne2 07-19-2009 06:00 AM

I woulde LOVE a crystal-clear version of the "Maker Of Birds" demo and more A-quality recordings and videotaped stuff from the 70's.

Gypsycat999 07-19-2009 08:17 AM

What I would really love to have is the very first FM concert with Stevie and Lindsey...

FMlex 07-19-2009 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 831559)
You know what, I don't think I've ever heard this whole show. I know the Tusk Doc we have been talkin' about in another thread took it's performances from this/these? show(s). Me, the expert on the Tusk Tour and I can't remember if there was 1 or 2 St. Louis shows?
Yeah I'd love to have it. Any possiblity you can post it as a zip file or Mp3's? I can't do torrents. If it's to much of a hassle don't worry about it.

One show I can think of offhand from the Tusk Tour I don't have and would like is from Wichita, Kansas in August 1980.

I made a new thread with that Tusk show!
Don't have that Kansas one though.

Dodfather 07-19-2009 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lala (Post 831527)
Two others I just thought of...

You Make Loving Fun with both the "it's all I wanna do" and "beginning to wonder why/feeling it's time to try" lines at the end.

Edge of Seventeen with "I know what it sounds like...when the doves cry" at the end, as an homage to Prince. Yes, I know, she hated Purple Rain and now they don't speak. I just always thought it would be the appropriate ending to that line. I sometimes sing it that way, and I always think...it must've crossed her mind...at least once.

Ooo...this is fun!

What happened between Stevie and Prince? The only link I know between them is the uncredited Stand Back keyboard part. What have I missed?

Lala 07-19-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather (Post 831655)
What happened between Stevie and Prince? The only link I know between them is the uncredited Stand Back keyboard part. What have I missed?

I remember reading a long time ago that she attended the Purple Rain premier and left half way through because she was offended by it. Of course, I can't find the quote now...so take it with a grain of salt. There may be more to the story...

Lala 07-19-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen (Post 831589)
If you are trying to inform me about an epic Rhiannon performance then no, I have not heard this version.

LINK ME!

What I was trying to say was that I would like a version similar to this, but better. My understanding is there are about 10 shows where Stevie may or may not have sung the "Is this what you want" line, but I believe Mobile is one of the few, if not only show in circulation. When you read Mick's description from his book, you imagine it to be a lot more emotional and haggard...where as this is just sort of coked out. And like I said, the quality could always be better, if we're talking about wish lists. Still awesome though. Here you go...

Download Fleetwood Mac - Rhiannon (Mobile, AL 8-11-80)

nailatixela 07-19-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 831545)
Nail, do you have all the soundboards from 1982 that are circulating at least?

Here's what I know about from the sound mix board:

tour rehearsal 8-16-82
tour rehearsal 8-19-82 (with "Straight Back")
tour rehearsal ("Sisters of the Moon")
US Festival 9-05-82
East Rutherford 9-14-82 ("Sara")
Memphis 10-12-82
Baton Rouge 10-13-82 ("Sara," "Hold Me")
Baton Rouge 10-13-82 (entire show)
Denver 10-15-82
Oakland 10-20-82

I don't have quite all of those. Not sure if soundboard is the best word - for example my US Fest show is only B quality, even though, I guess, it is considered soundboard since it wasn't an aud. recording. Maybe I should change my first request to A+ quality. There are some very high quality aud. recordings out there.

David 07-19-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Moz (Post 831560)
I wish I had a version of Smile At You (angry version) that was better in quality than the one I have.

I checked the four or five I have, from various sets -- like Missing Links -- & the best audio quality example I have is this one:

www.sendspace.com/file/2z4l5p

David 07-19-2009 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 831559)
One show I can think of offhand from the Tusk Tour I don't have and would like is from Wichita, Kansas in August 1980.

What I have from Wichita Coliseum is rotten audio quality. Here's World Turning:

www.sendspace.com/file/ndl7ug

David 07-19-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lala (Post 831671)
What I was trying to say was that I would like a version similar to this, but better. My understanding is there are about 10 shows where Stevie may or may not have sung the "Is this what you want" line, but I believe Mobile is one of the few, if not only show in circulation.

I think she pretty much does that or a variation on that on all the August shows, & maybe even earlier (like June in Europe)? She sings that on both the Hollywood Bowl shows, for example. Do you have any other Rhiannon from August?

Quote:

And like I said, the quality could always be better, if we're talking about wish lists.
I found my copy of Mobile & I think the 192 bitrate sounds perhaps a tiny bit clearer & more up front. Check it out & see what you think:

www.sendspace.com/file/ha7oqq

David 07-19-2009 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nailatixela (Post 831673)
I don't have quite all of those. Not sure if soundboard is the best word - for example my US Fest show is only B quality, even though, I guess, it is considered soundboard since it wasn't an aud.

Yep, the soundboard designation doesn't always mean the audio quality is fantastic. It only characterizes the technical method with which the performance was recorded -- direct line via the mix board, no mic.

Here's the best audio quality I have from my US Festival soundboard -- Dreams is the example:

www.sendspace.com/file/9bc4s6

There's also an audience recording of the US Festival. It runs all the way through Songbird.

vivfox 07-19-2009 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 831681)
What I have from Wichita Coliseum is rotten audio quality. Here's World Turning:

www.sendspace.com/file/ndl7ug

Thank you David. The quality is no problem for me when it comes to the Tusk Tour. Can you spare me a little Rhiannon from this show?

David 07-19-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 831684)
Thank you David. The quality is no problem for me when it comes to the Tusk Tour. Can you spare me a little Rhiannon from this show?

I probably threw out my cassette awhile ago. The last several years, I seem to have no patience for the rotten audio quality of so many of our audience recordings & demos. All I have from Wichita 1980 are three MP3s -- I probably kept these because they were such splendid & inventive jams:

Go Your Own Way: www.sendspace.com/file/lles9d
I'm So Afraid: www.sendspace.com/file/a31t34

(And I uploaded World Turning earlier.)

vivfox 07-19-2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 831693)
I probably threw out my cassette awhile ago. The last several years, I seem to have no patience for the rotten audio quality of so many of our audience recordings & demos. All I have from Wichita 1980 are three MP3s -- I probably kept these because they were such splendid & inventive jams:

Go Your Own Way: www.sendspace.com/file/lles9d
I'm So Afraid: www.sendspace.com/file/a31t34

(And I uploaded World Turning earlier.)

Thank you. Your kindness is much appreciated. What is on your wish list?
Can you teach me how to transfer cassettes to the computer?

FMlex 07-19-2009 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lala (Post 831671)
What I was trying to say was that I would like a version similar to this, but better. My understanding is there are about 10 shows where Stevie may or may not have sung the "Is this what you want" line, but I believe Mobile is one of the few, if not only show in circulation. When you read Mick's description from his book, you imagine it to be a lot more emotional and haggard...where as this is just sort of coked out. And like I said, the quality could always be better, if we're talking about wish lists. Still awesome though. Here you go...

Download Fleetwood Mac - Rhiannon (Mobile, AL 8-11-80)

COOL! Thanks so much. I don't have a version with her singing "Is this what you want" -- pretty neat!

Moz 07-19-2009 01:50 PM

I love coked out perfomances - you know, SOTM from the Mirage dvd and GDW in Japan, December 1977. There's gotta be others out there. :thumbsup:

Lala 07-19-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 831682)
I think she pretty much does that or a variation on that on all the August shows, & maybe even earlier (like June in Europe)? She sings that on both the Hollywood Bowl shows, for example. Do you have any other Rhiannon from August?

I found my copy of Mobile & I think the 192 bitrate sounds perhaps a tiny bit clearer & more up front. Check it out & see what you think:

www.sendspace.com/file/ha7oqq

I have the Hollywood Bowl show from 9-01-80, I just haven't had time to listen to it yet. Now I will...

Thanks for the higher quality Mobile Rhiannon...it's much nicer. Do you have the whole show at 192? What would I have to do to convince you to post it?

daniellaaarisen 07-20-2009 04:17 AM

I Am In Love With That Rhiannon.

David 07-20-2009 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lala (Post 831725)
Thanks for the higher quality Mobile Rhiannon...it's much nicer. Do you have the whole show at 192? What would I have to do to convince you to post it?

Batch #1: www.sendspace.com/file/cie8f4

Batch #2: www.sendspace.com/file/wbv1w9

Batch #3: www.sendspace.com/file/3p5h3c

I don't have the whole show -- just 13 tracks in those zip files. DavidMN has the whole show but as far as I know has not circulated it.

Some of my soundboards have that awful sound-editing that people apply to their files, using freeware. I wish people WOULD NOT DO THAT!!!! :mad:
It leaves a horrible tinny ringing sound on the files that is awful. PLEASE, everyone, do NOT sound-edit the files you share. Let others do that themselves to their own copies if they want. Most people who apply the sound-editing techniques in WAV & MP3 editing programs apply WAY TOO MUCH. Those little levers are very sensitive in the GUI.

If anyone has any of the following soundboards in NON-SOUND-EDITED MP3 files, ripped at 160 bitrate or higher:

Yokohama 2.13.80
Baton Rouge 10.13.80


I'm trying to fix my Memphis (10.12.82), Oakland (10.20.82), & Sydney (3.15.80) files right now.

Dodfather 07-20-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Moz (Post 831709)
I love coked out perfomances - you know, SOTM from the Mirage dvd and GDW in Japan, December 1977. There's gotta be others out there. :thumbsup:


I'm sure this is out there but does anyone have an mp3 of that legendary Sisters of the Moon Mirage performance?

chiliD 07-20-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by nailatixela (Post 831517)
I'd like soundboard quality shows to magically appear and fall into my lap of every show Fleetwood Mac ever played.

Well, a pretty decent recording has surfaced of Fleetwood Mac's VERY FIRST gig, so anything's possible.


But, wouldn't the shows get kind of redundant during the Rumours (latter legs), Tusk, Mirage, The Dance & Say You Will tours?

I could see wanting shows back when each show was fairly fluid and song choices changed pretty much from show to show (from 1967-76)...but from the mid-summer of 1977 onwards, once the set was static, DAMN!!, it was static. Maybe having two or three recordings from different legs of each tour (when they'd tweak the set slightly...EVER SO SLIGHTLY) would be good, but jeez, from hearing recordings from The Dance and Say You Will tour, one would suffice just nicely.

vivfox 07-20-2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 831850)
Well, a pretty decent recording has surfaced of Fleetwood Mac's VERY FIRST gig, so anything's possible.


But, wouldn't the shows get kind of redundant during the Rumours (latter legs), Tusk, Mirage, The Dance & Say You Will tours?

I could see wanting shows back when each show was fairly fluid and song choices changed pretty much from show to show (from 1967-76)...but from the mid-summer of 1977 onwards, once the set was static, DAMN!!, it was static. Maybe having two or three recordings from different legs of each tour (when they'd tweak the set slightly...EVER SO SLIGHTLY) would be good, but jeez, from hearing recordings from The Dance and Say You Will tour, one would suffice just nicely.

When are you going to post FM's very first gig?
Also you have to admit that Rhiannon was performed differently every time they played it from 1975-1982.

David 07-20-2009 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather (Post 831847)
I'm sure this is out there but does anyone have an mp3 of that legendary Sisters of the Moon Mirage performance?

All those Sisters renditions throughout the '82 tour were quite good -- & quite similar in their passion. (My favorite was the Irvine Meadows rendition.)

Here's one you might enjoy. It's from Denver Oct. 15, 1982 (McNichols Arena).

www.sendspace.com/file/9t5xcz

chiliD 07-20-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 831858)
When are you going to post FM's very first gig?.

It's readily available on line for those who search for it. And, it doesn't take much searching.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 831858)
Also you have to admit that Rhiannon was performed differently every time they played it from 1975-1982.

Ummm...disagree...it was played pretty much the same from show to show on a particular tour, but it had a slightly different arrangement each tour during those years.


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