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cristochango 07-02-2009 01:06 PM

Angel tusk outtake
 


I dont know about you guys.
but from :54 to 1:26 makes me cringe

shackin'up 07-02-2009 01:26 PM

Cringe? why? they don't. why should we? That's the way they worked together, whatever you may think about it, it worked. It resulted in a masterpiece.

cristochango 07-02-2009 01:43 PM

i dont know. i feel embarresed for stevie haha

David 07-02-2009 02:45 PM

Stevie was a major airhead. There is a quality to her personality that probably elicits in other people the desire to be violent.

jbrownsjr 07-02-2009 03:02 PM

I think they're doing great work...

It's always hard to nail down harmony parts when the song is coming into fruition... A lot of times the person singing melody changes or gets sucked in.... it's not that unusual...

strandinthewind 07-02-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 828999)
I think they're doing great work...

It's always hard to nail down harmony parts when the song is coming into fruition... A lot of times the person singing melody changes or gets sucked in.... it's not that unusual...

So, very true - I mean people seem to think it the song emerges in the final form :laugh:

Also, why wasn't CM playing that piano?

jbrownsjr 07-02-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 829000)
So, very true - I mean people seem to think it the song emerges in the final form :laugh:

Also, why wasn't CM playing that piano?

A lot of times... when trying to nail down a harmony... an artist will use a piano as a crutch... I think that's what LB was doing... (i.e. here's your note..ding ding ding) or... he was just laying down the foundation so they could sing over it...

When I sang in a jazz vocal ensemble... I used to stand near the piano when I sang the baritone part... :shocked:

vivfox 07-02-2009 03:12 PM

Thank you for posting. I haven't seen that in a long time and then again I have seen most but not all of it. Who has that entire outtake film? Anyone? I have one for the song Sara. Anyone want me to post it?

jbrownsjr 07-02-2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 829003)
Thank you for posting. I haven't seen that in a long time and then again I have seen most but not all of it. Who has that entire outtake film? Anyone? I have one for the song Sara. Anyone want me to post it?

Sure Viv... i love watching Tusk footage...

jbrownsjr 07-02-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 829000)

Also, why wasn't CM playing that piano?

She was dressing up as Mrs. Butterworth getting ready to go out... :lol:

shackin'up 07-02-2009 03:40 PM

i looked at again, and at some more Tuskdocparts on youtube. It's interesting to see how stevie brings out the nitpicker in Lindsey and Lindsey brings out the freestyle-I didn't know what I just did-sloppyness in Stevie. They accepted that from eachother in these clips ,but it isn't hard to imagine how they could explode in streetfightbehaviour......

look at this one. priceless.


strandinthewind 07-02-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 829005)
She was dressing up as Mrs. Butterworth getting ready to go out... :lol:

:cool:

And - you are right about the piano and harmony/vocal parts. LB seemingly plays well judging by this sniglet.

jbrownsjr 07-02-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 829024)
:cool:

And - you are right about the piano and harmony parts. LB seemingly plays well judging by this sniglet.

He does... I've seen him fooling around backstage on an upright... and Christine is singing with him....

they look smashed... surprise surprise...

strandinthewind 07-02-2009 04:39 PM

Gerald - I agree.

And, when they were on and being FM, they really were unstoppable as seen here:



La Nicks's vocals are in the stratosphere, CM is a solid lead, and LB's guitar is sublime with Mick and John providing what they do best.

Ah - that era!

And - we see it in its infancy in relation to Tusk in these doc clips.

FMlex 07-02-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 829004)
Sure Viv... i love watching Tusk footage...

I second that!

I especially love that performance of "Angel" - aww! :lol:

shackin'up 07-02-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 829028)
Gerald - I agree.

And, when they were on and being FM, they really were unstoppable as seen here:



La Nicks's vocals are in the stratosphere, CM is a solid lead, and LB's guitar is sublime with Mick and John providing what they do best.

Ah - that era!

And - we see it in its infancy in relation to Tusk in these doc clips.


Yeah, it's funny - I just watched that Midnight specialclip with Why and OMH. Funny to see lindsey play with a pick!

This version of Why always makes me cry.
It's the most beautiful song she ever wrote. And I still think this is the ultimate version.

vivfox 07-02-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 829039)
Yeah, it's funny - I just watched that Midnight special clip with Why.
This version always makes me cry.

Well did she make you cry and make you break down and shatter your illusions?
How come I don't see your tears on the screen??:p

strandinthewind 07-02-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 829039)
. . . This version of Why always makes me cry.
It's the most beautiful song she ever wrote. And I still think this is the ultimate version.

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!

And, she wrote some beautiful things - "As Long As You Follow" is another one of my fav.'s

goldustsongbird 07-02-2009 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 829020)

I'm waiting for the Lindsey pervs to go ga-ga over those last few minutes. :laugh:

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 829028)

La Nicks's vocals are in the stratosphere, CM is a solid lead, and LB's guitar is sublime with Mick and John providing what they do best.

The best Over My Head, Stevie-wise:


Sends me spinning into chiffonhead overdrive in a heartbeat.

strandinthewind 07-02-2009 05:39 PM

^^

I love that one too. I also, esp. love the tap dance punctuated with a hand clap at the end of the clip while they are in the studio :cool:

shackin'up 07-02-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 829046)
I'm waiting for the Lindsey pervs to go ga-ga over those last few minutes. :laugh:

Well, I'm definately not of the perv-family, but I was amazed about what he does there. I knew about the bathroomstories, but NOW I understand how he did that and with what purpose. I never had seen that before and I am amazed.

shackin'up 07-02-2009 05:59 PM

people on this board keep thinking in three camps. First of all I am a Fleetwood Mac fan. I became a buckhead through Tusk. ALL of Tusk. Not just those nine timeless sketches.

mylittledemon 07-02-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cristochango (Post 828976)
I dont know about you guys.
but from :54 to 1:26 makes me cringe

Nothing wrong with that. It's a nice moment between them. If it were two guys in the studio, they'd be throwing **** and cursing at one another.

shackin'up 07-02-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 829042)
Well did she make you cry and make you break down and shatter your illusions?
How come I don't see your tears on the screen??:p

the fact that I'm not gay does not mean I don't have any contact with my female side.

will you stop irritating the **** out of me? I've been trying too for quite a while.

petep9000 07-02-2009 06:42 PM

you know what 'Angel' footage I want to see unearthed again? From the 20/20 piece that FM was featured on during the 'Tusk' tour. They did a very short clip of Stevie singing "well track a ghost through the fog baybay..." and she looks just awesome. Why? Well, she dropped the Gibson-girl look and was wearing the short-sleave lace dress which I'm pretty sure is what she wore on the 'Mirage' cover, and she's got mounds of her bushy hair all pushed up in her hands in a very un-Stevie way. It's very sexy. And she ends the song with a loud a cappella "BABY!"

Bits of the 20/20 are on Youtube, but that part isn't. Thats a darn shame too.

vivfox 07-02-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 829066)
Will you stop irritating the **** out of me? I've been trying too for quite a while.

How have I been irritating you? Also the highlighted part makes no sense to me. While you are lecturing me could you possibly please explain the highlighted part as well?:sorry:

michelej1 07-02-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 829053)
Well, I'm definately not of the perv-family, but I was amazed about what he does there. I knew about the bathroomstories, but NOW I understand how he did that and with what purpose. I never had seen that before and I am amazed.

I guess Lisa wasn't talking about the music.

You know, that wasn't really sexy. So, I can't get my ga-ga on. Reminds me of an experience I had with a plumber and his low hanging tool belt. Not pretty.



Michele

shackin'up 07-03-2009 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 829087)
I guess Lisa wasn't talking about the music.

And you think I didn't understand that? I thought I might change the discussion-subject of the same footage into a direction I'm more interested in, and what is actually about...lindsey's experimetal approach during Tusk... before the gagagagagaga begins....

shackin'up 07-03-2009 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 829084)
How have I been irritating you? Also the highlighted part makes no sense to me. While you are lecturing me could you possibly please explain the highlighted part as well?:sorry:


ah forget it. If you don't understand what I mean, I guess I'm on another planet. Sorry.

bikerchic 07-03-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 829028)
Gerald - I agree.

And, when they were on and being FM, they really were unstoppable as seen here:



La Nicks's vocals are in the stratosphere, CM is a solid lead, and LB's guitar is sublime with Mick and John providing what they do best.

Ah - that era!

God their harmonies are beautiful on "Why". Right after the three harmonies and LB plays that last guitar part, what other song does that sound like? Can someone help? It's bugging me.

michelej1 07-03-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 829154)
And you think I didn't understand that?

Really, I wasn't concerned with what you understood or not. It's a thread. One reply builds upon the reply of another and you don't have to take everything as a personal comment or a reflection on what you know or don't know.

I've seen your comments about Hotness threads, the Cheri Caspari thread, etc. I know you think it's ridiculous when the comments veer into that strain and away from the art. I know why you re-focused the discussion. I wasn't writing, "boy that totally went over his head. Let me set him straight." I was daisy-chaining on your reply.

Michele

shackin'up 07-03-2009 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 829190)
Really, I wasn't concerned with what you understood or not. It's a thread. One reply builds upon the reply of another and you don't have to take everything as a personal comment or a reflection on what you know or don't know.

Well, it is a thread, but when you quote me, you are referring to the quote and it is easily read as a comment on mine. So if you are speaking in general, don't quote me.

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 829190)
I know you think it's ridiculous when the comments veer into that strain and away from the art. Michele

Well, then you don't catch the real irritation that I've expressed in those threads. I couldn't care less if people are going nuts on gossip and looks about an artist. But real LB fans will certainly be fans because of his musical talent and strong artistic identity. (a million times repeated by the man himself, and maybe the most people are irritated because he always repeats the same things, but I guess he has to keep on repeating until people will learn). I don't care if you go gaga because of his hips lips butt or chesthair. Go ahead. But IN THIS community, a thread about music and art can wait until eternity before there's a response, and a thread about some exgirlfriend is endless within 24 hours.

I can relate to that in the Stevie forum, the Chit Chat-forum, and even the soapopera-rumours forum, but in the lindsey buckinghamforum, I still think it is a weird balance.

michelej1 07-03-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 829212)
Well, it is a thread, but when you quote me, you are referring to the quote and it is easily read as a comment on mine. So if you are speaking in general, don't quote me.

It might very well be a comment on what you have written, but it is not a comment on your intellect, although you are always quick to assume it is. I find it ironic that someone who is so quick to insult others is always so quick to imagine insult against himself where none exists.

If you make a comment about the band, unless someone is baiting you, any follow up to that comment is likely to be about the band and not about you. If you don't want to be quoted, don't post. If you are going to post, don't assume that every reply you get is somehow questioning your IQ. Unless you are talking about yourself personally, odds are the replies won't be about you personally and what you know or don't know either.

Michele

shackin'up 07-03-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 829226)
It might very well be a comment on what you have written, but it is not a comment on your intellect, although you are always quick to assume it is. I find it ironic that someone who is so quick to insult others is always so quick to imagine insult against himself where none exists.

I didn't think you insulted me or questioned my IQ. From your post it looked that you misunderstood me. I'm sorry if you misunderstood me again.

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 829226)
If you make a comment about the band, unless someone is baiting you, any follow up to that comment is likely to be about the band and not about you. If you don't want to be quoted, don't post. If you are going to post, don't assume that every reply you get is somehow questioning your IQ. Unless you are talking about yourself personally, odds are the replies won't be about you personally and what you know or don't know either.

Michele

What have I done to you? You paint me as some paranoid idiot.

I really don't know why you do this.

shackin'up 07-04-2009 05:26 PM

please?:shrug: :shrug:

Dodfather 07-06-2009 07:51 AM

I think the version of Angel that we see Stevie performing on stage in the Tusk documentary (from the youtube clip I've seen) has an AMAZING vocal. It gets turned into a real rock song...are there many mp3s of Angel performed live from this era?

David 07-06-2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather (Post 829669)
I think the version of Angel that we see Stevie performing on stage in the Tusk documentary (from the youtube clip I've seen) has an AMAZING vocal. It gets turned into a real rock song...are there many mp3s of Angel performed live from this era?

A whole bunch of them. Here's ANGEL from Yokohama February something-or-other 1980:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/juykfz

Instrumentally speaking, ANGEL onstage represents just about the best example of Christine's self-appraisal as a part of the rhythm section rather than a soloist.

Glittermoondust 07-06-2009 12:40 PM

This is one of my absolute favorite favorite favorite songs!!! I just want to see it live once please Stevie...... with the beret ;)

jbrownsjr 07-06-2009 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 829699)
A whole bunch of them. Here's ANGEL from Yokohama February something-or-other 1980:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/juykfz

Instrumentally speaking, ANGEL onstage represents just about the best example of Christine's self-appraisal as a part of the rhythm section rather than a soloist.

I love the studio so much better... seems like they sped up the tempo a little.... sounds a little rushed live.. but still one of my fav Tusk songs...

nailatixela 07-06-2009 01:16 PM

I love Angel live. I like it much better live than in the studio - I like that it is faster live. It makes it more exciting, IMO. Angel was one of those songs that I didn't care for till I heard it live, then I got it. (even though I was not really there)


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