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Fannymac 06-17-2009 06:56 PM

Would You Buy A Remastered BELLA DONNA w/ Bonus Tracks?
 
30th anniversary is coming up....now would be the time to start planning it!

BombaySapphire3 06-17-2009 06:59 PM

I would have thought she'd have done it 3 years ago for the 25th..It desperately needs to be remastered but don't hold your breath.

mylittledemon 06-17-2009 07:42 PM

It'd be nice as a LP/CD release with cool poster or something.

Enchanted_Stevi 06-17-2009 11:19 PM

Oh Yeaaaaa!

drzubritsky 06-17-2009 11:33 PM

I would absolutely buy a remastered Bella Donna, assuming that the mastering was well done and not the ultra-loud, hyper-compressed jobs that are too often done these days. A gold CD by one of the audiophile labels like MFSL or Audio Fidelity would be nice, as they generally produce superb sounding discs.

Actually, the existing CD of BD doesn't sound THAT bad, but I'm sure it could sound better.

As far as bonus tracks, the following would be nice to hear:
- Properly finished versions of "Gypsy" and "Gold And Braid": The master reels versions sound like the unfinished/rehearsal tracks that they are, but I think decent versions could be stitched together. "Gold And Braid" needs mixing work, because the vocal is way too low on the master reels versions.
- An extended "Blue Lamp": I have always been a bit frustrated with the released version because it fades out just as she is getting cranked up. There are some interesting vocal arrangements seen in the Crystal Visions documentary; I would be curious if those were ever laid down on tape.
- The live version of "I Need To Know" from the HBO concert.

markolas 06-17-2009 11:41 PM

Who the hell wouldn't??

Bella Donna & The Wild Heart both should be remastered with extra tracks.

dnightshade 06-18-2009 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 826325)
I would have thought she'd have done it 3 years ago for the 25th..It desperately needs to be remastered but don't hold your breath.

You never know . . .

LukeA 06-18-2009 12:48 AM

Its a moot point. If Fleetwood Mac isn't going to acknowledge 30 years of Tusk, what makes anyone think Bella Donna will be feted with anything?

In all likelihood, its headed towards the cutout bin like the rest of Stevie's solo work. Its just the way things are.

gldstwmn 06-18-2009 01:02 AM

Hell yes! But with the disintegration of Modern Records, who would be doing it?

Dodfather 06-18-2009 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 826395)
Its a moot point. If Fleetwood Mac isn't going to acknowledge 30 years of Tusk, what makes anyone think Bella Donna will be feted with anything?

In all likelihood, its headed towards the cutout bin like the rest of Stevie's solo work. Its just the way things are.

Tusk was remastered in the 2cd set a few years ago, that will do for me. I would LOVE a remastered Bella Donna. It's still Stevie's best album and it's such a shame that thishasn't been done.

I wonder what's been holding Stevie back? If 3 Fleetwood Mac albums can be successfully remastered and re-released then why not one of her solo records? Especially the one that is, arguably, her most famous?

wildheart048 06-18-2009 05:45 AM

Hell yes I would! I'd re-buy them all...I wish they would do what they did with Elvis Costello's, The Pretenders, U2, etc....catalogs...

And as for FM....pick up where you left off and get to Mirage, the album that MOST needs remastering, IMHO, of all the cds out there....

Angel69 06-18-2009 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wildheart048 (Post 826410)
And as for FM....pick up where you left off and get to Mirage, the album that MOST needs remastering, IMHO, of all the cds out there....

Yes something needs to be done with Mirage!!! I feel that is an excellent album that suffers from a bad transition to cd.

JazmenFlowers 06-18-2009 08:07 AM

of course most of us would.

as far as bonus tracks, I don't really care as long as Julia is there.

trackaghost 06-18-2009 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by markolas (Post 826375)
Bella Donna & The Wild Heart both should be remastered with extra tracks.

Oh to dream! It's funny, much smaller artists have done this for their back catalogue, it's just silly and lazy that Bella Donna at the very least hasn't had some kind of anniversary edition treatment.

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 826428)
of course most of us would.

as far as bonus tracks, I don't really care as long as Julia is there.

Amen to that. Julia is probably my favourite ever Stevie outtake.

Fannymac 06-18-2009 10:52 AM

I would think Atlantic or Rhino would be able to do it, no sweat!

As for the bonus tracks, "Julia" is a no-brainer.....there's a finished version in the can, all set to go! After that, I'd like to see "Gold & Braid" and a studio version of "I Need To Know", then, if there's room, "Blue Lamp!":blob1:

skuncles 06-18-2009 11:38 AM

First of all Rhino would most likely put it out, I think Atlantic and Rhino are both under the Warner Bros. umbrella and Modern fell under the Atlantic umbrella, so it's one big family. No problem there.
As for bonus tracks, Bella Donna runs just about 35 mins or so, so that leaves roughly 40 mins of room for bonus tracks. Based on the master reels alone they could do the entire album in demo form.
What they need to do is re-issue the album and include ALL of the original album artwork, early CD's sucked at including all original artwork and usually left most out. A cool bonus DVD might be the COMPLETE HBO concert.

billwebster 06-18-2009 11:52 AM

No, but I probably would buy a new Stevie solo album, even if it doesn't consist of totally new songs, but of re-recorded songs that are bootlegged as decades old demo recordings.

skuncles 06-18-2009 12:25 PM

I would rather Stevie release the demo over new recordings of the demos. The released version of "Smile At You" sucks compared to the demos. Same for "The Tower". In the case of "Smile At You" the anger is VERY present on the demo, but time has healed that wound and the released version is way too whimpy. Give us the demos, record new songs only.

DWIG 06-18-2009 03:50 PM

No doubt about it
Bella Donna is one of the classic albums of all time and i would die to have a remastered copy with tracks like Julia Sanctuary etc

Bring it on!!!!!

Fannymac 06-18-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by billwebster (Post 826467)
No, but I probably would buy a new Stevie solo album, even if it doesn't consist of totally new songs, but of re-recorded songs that are bootlegged as decades old demo recordings.

I've been saying Stevie should do a "From The Vaults" CD for years!!!

starshine 06-18-2009 06:08 PM

I'd totally 'BUY' all of Stevie's solo cd again 'if' they are totally remastered with the original masters & lets see a cd holds alot....alot of music. They need to use it to its full potential really. I'd put some extra songs at the end whatever it takes to fill up the whole cd or close to it. It put 2 cds in all of them .....I'd pick the BEST of the masters or alternates /mixes or extended versions. I want the extended version to 'Blue Lamp' that was in the CV dvd. Sleeping Angel....Gold & Braid...Julia....The Dealer ETC...too much to chose from.....They could also in a different release the complete HBO concert full concert with all the cut out songs....The cd booklet should have wonderful outtake pictures esp those with the Blue Lamp.....I'd say a nice sized booklet....... Than I'd repeat this with the rest of her catalog...WH/RAL/Mirror/SA/TISL....heck give us another 'Box Set'.....or just re-issuse them that way.....of course I love the B.Dylan way......with all the extended/alter etc....not that I have any of them....but I did look at it and what Stevie could do with a set like that.....wow......She has many many options the question is will she do anything?? Sure a New cd would be nice but I don't know if that'll happen....heck all of this stuff is recorded already....get it out to your fans......for it to be lock up in some valuet collecting dust....is a shame really...same with the outtake photos as well......
I also agree Mac should re-issue Mirgae with an extra cd too.....Tango/Mask/Live with extras....all there video hits.......another shame......with many outtake pictures too.......but we get another Rumours....not that I don't like Rumours...but heck they could re-do Tusk again cause there are different versions still left.....with more outtake pictures as well.......IMO anyway.....:thumbsup::shrug::nod:

SNicksed 06-18-2009 09:38 PM

Someone should print this thread out and hand it to her at the next show! :thumbsup: Couldn't hurt. :shrug:

I would buy it in a wild heart beat!

dnightshade 06-18-2009 11:34 PM

We're just curious, for those who said they wouldn't buy Bella Donna remastered with bonus tracks, why not? Is it because you just don't like the album? And if you don't like it, why?

LukeA 06-19-2009 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dnightshade (Post 826589)
We're just curious, for those who said they wouldn't buy Bella Donna remastered with bonus tracks, why not? Is it because you just don't like the album? And if you don't like it, why?

Its #3 or #4 for me as far as her solo albums go.. and that's not saying much, since there's a steep drop-off after #2, for me. BD is hardly Stevie's Rumours, to use an analogy. Plus, basically all of Bella Donna (8 of the 10 tracks) was already remastered and re-released on Enchanted, and I doubt the quality will be all that much different/better (unless you consider louder "better")

As far as the bonus tracks go, something tells me they wouldn't go too much further beyond Gold And Braid and maybe the solo version of Gypsy. If they pull a Reconsider Me-esque surprise out of their hat with something completely previously unheard... I still wouldn't buy it (I'd buy the track a la carte on iTunes or Amazon)

chriskisn 06-19-2009 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnightshade (Post 826589)
We're just curious, for those who said they wouldn't buy Bella Donna remastered with bonus tracks, why not? Is it because you just don't like the album? And if you don't like it, why?

Because I already own a CD copy of Bella Donna. There has to be a point where you stop buying remastered crap with bonus tracks, you can't do it for every album that you already own that gets remastered. I enjoy Bella Donna just how I was meant to...

nailatixela 06-19-2009 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chriskisn (Post 826631)
Because I already own a CD copy of Bella Donna. There has to be a point where you stop buying remastered crap with bonus tracks, you can't do it for every album that you already own that gets remastered. I enjoy Bella Donna just how I was meant to...


I respect your opinion, but I thought it was interesting to see you of all people vote "no." You must own all of the CDs that that any of the band members are on in any sense right? I remember the thing about if Crow joined the band than you would have to buy all her CDs. :lol:

marc402 06-19-2009 12:01 PM

Sure a no brainer! Bought the peter green remasters, The 3 Fleetwood mac remasters, and remastered series from other artists too, (eurythmics,Pet Shop boys,Abba) as i said before in the other thread about TITN, Mirage i don't see it hapenning in the curent i tunes oriented marketplace.

Fannymac 06-19-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 826620)
Its #3 or #4 for me as far as her solo albums go.. and that's not saying much, since there's a steep drop-off after #2, for me. BD is hardly Stevie's Rumours, to use an analogy. Plus, basically all of Bella Donna (8 of the 10 tracks) was already remastered and re-released on Enchanted, and I doubt the quality will be all that much different/better (unless you consider louder "better")

As far as the bonus tracks go, something tells me they wouldn't go too much further beyond Gold And Braid and maybe the solo version of Gypsy. If they pull a Reconsider Me-esque surprise out of their hat with something completely previously unheard... I still wouldn't buy it (I'd buy the track a la carte on iTunes or Amazon)

I think "Julia" is a definite no-brainer to be included....the fact that it was on the album and dropped at the last minute ~ there was actual artwork done! ~ makes it a prime candidate!

Supernaut 06-19-2009 12:42 PM

I would buy it, but they would have to do a better job with the bonus material. I think they need to really collect a LOT of the unreleased tunes and some of the outtakes and demos and create a really deluxe boxed set out of it with incredible prints and posters from photoshoot outtakes, beautiful printing and artwork, journals, etc. They should also release as much of the live material from the WWD Tour as they can (this could be electronic in FLAC format) and a bunch of the video (a remastered HD version of the COMPLETE HBO special - audio/video, the complete - or near complete - making-of-Bella Donna footage, etc.). It wouldn't cost them a whole lot and they could stand to make some serious coin on it.

Yeah, right. Last stroke of never.

A guy can dream, tho...

starshine 06-21-2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supernaut (Post 826674)
I would buy it, but they would have to do a better job with the bonus material. I think they need to really collect a LOT of the unreleased tunes and some of the outtakes and demos and create a really deluxe boxed set out of it with incredible prints and posters from photoshoot outtakes, beautiful printing and artwork, journals, etc. They should also release as much of the live material from the WWD Tour as they can (this could be electronic in FLAC format) and a bunch of the video (a remastered HD version of the COMPLETE HBO special - audio/video, the complete - or near complete - making-of-Bella Donna footage, etc.). It wouldn't cost them a whole lot and they could stand to make some serious coin on it.

Yeah, right. Last stroke of never.

A guy can dream, tho...

I totally LOVE the idea.....with all the solo lp/cds......how awesome would that be. Personally, I just wish it was all outtakes/alternates/unrealsed songs etc.....than just a rehash of what we all have....but like thats gonna happen....I guess its a 'dream' but heck some 'dreams' are worth having aren't they....LOL:laugh:

chriskisn 06-21-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailatixela (Post 826639)
I respect your opinion, but I thought it was interesting to see you of all people vote "no." You must own all of the CDs that that any of the band members are on in any sense right? I remember the thing about if Crow joined the band than you would have to buy all her CDs. :lol:

Well I have the solo CDs of all 16 (majority of them being a legal shop-bought copy). I'm not quite as bad as someone like John (wetcamelfood) who collects every album that every FM member appears on. That would take dedication.

If there were a couple of new tracks on the album then I'd just buy the new tracks not the whole new album.

Yes I was very glad when Ms Crow didn't join the band, as I really didn't want to go out and buy her stuff...

iamnotafraid 06-25-2009 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chriskisn (Post 827078)
I was very glad when Ms Crow didn't join the band, as I really didn't want to go out and buy her stuff...

Are you going to buy the Cyrus remake of Bella Donna?
Street date October 31, 2009

BellaDonna 06-25-2009 06:01 AM

Heck YES I'd buy a remastered Bella Donna for sure!! :thumbsup: I try to collect all the FM/Stevie albums/cd's I can anyway... but Bella Donna is my very favorite one of all! So there is no way I'd not get it. Plus I enjoyed the remastered Rumours and Tusk very much .. well I guess I just want anything I can get my hands on!! :lol::lol:

Jondalar 06-25-2009 08:29 AM

I wish people would stop mentioning this. I would love this, but it's not going to happen. I seriously doubt that Stevie ever comes out with anything new after the disappointing sales of Crystal Visions and the live album.

Dodfather 06-25-2009 09:44 AM

An album of new original material would sell FAR better then those 2 albums. As great as they are, they're still basically re-issues of mostly previously avaliable material (apart from Crash and Circle Dance.

Trouble In Shangri La sold pretty well and got great revues.

Fannymac 07-01-2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodfather (Post 827802)
An album of new original material would sell FAR better then those 2 albums. As great as they are, they're still basically re-issues of mostly previously avaliable material (apart from Crash and Circle Dance.

Trouble In Shangri La sold pretty well and got great revues.

EXACTLY!!! Stevie could still move some MAJOR units of NEW material!!!

ShangriLaTroubl 07-01-2009 04:23 PM

Well this poll is closed but I would DEFINITELY purchase a remastered Bella Donna. In fact I cannot understand why one hasn't been released yet.

wilsim007 12-03-2012 05:15 PM

Entire catalog remastered
 
I'm sure they will eventually come out with a "Complete Studio Recordings" type of package one of these days like they did for Led Zepplin and ABBA. I was incredibly impressed with the ABBA set. Each album was remastered with coinciding b-sides and bonus material included. And there was an additional cd called "Rarities" which was a catchall for everything else. 2 dvds were also included. One contained every official video and the other had a short documentary and some concert footage. Unfortunately we may have to wait until after Stevie has passed away before she receives that kind of treatment. Or maybe if she would rightfully be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame as a solo artist. (Something else that is WAAAAYYYY overdue.)

Etisl 12-03-2012 08:11 PM

I would love it if Bella Donna was released as some type of boxed set that included the remastered album, an outtakes CD, and the White Winged Dove tour on DVD, and also include a cool photo book from that Era...with outtakes, etc.

But, I know it will never happen. :shrug:

peer_gynt10 12-03-2012 10:23 PM

Here's what I would include as bonus material:

Blue Lamp
Gold and Braid (Live)
Sleeping Angel
Julia (Outtake)
The Dealer (Outtake)
Gypsy (Outtake)

And then a bonus CD with lots of demos including Lady From the Mountain, All the King's Horses and piano demos of Bella Donna, Kind of Woman and Outside the Rain.

Finally, some alternate versions such as The Highwayman and How Still My Love.

And, of course, round it off with a DVD of the full HBO concert.

Question: Does anyone know if the demos for If You Were My Love and Smile at You that are in circulation are from the BD sessions or if they were recorded with FM?


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