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michelej1 05-04-2009 12:18 PM

SN: Schedule Horrific; Nearly Killed Them All
 
[This was posted on Sioux Falls radio website, I suppose it is excerpted from an interview I have not found yet. I am relieved that they all didn't die.]

http://www.b1027.com/index.php?optio...6192&Itemid=74

The schedule for the first leg of Fleetwood Mac's Unleashed tour in March and April was "horrific," according to Stevie Nicks. She says they had only a few days off and that it "nearly killed all four" band members. Promoter Live Nation has worked more off-days into the second leg, which now runs through late June.

shackin'up 05-04-2009 12:28 PM

To me it looks as if the may-june schedule has not a day more air than the march-april schedule. Even worse?

louielouie2000 05-04-2009 12:45 PM

Good Lord that woman is sucha damn whiner! Is she EVER happy or satisfied?? Working 3 hours a day, every other day for a month stretch would sure wear me out too. :rolleyes:

Sanne2 05-04-2009 12:51 PM

Lol, she's a bit a drama-queen, isn't she?:rolleyes:

JohnL 05-04-2009 12:53 PM

Uh....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 818788)
Good Lord that woman is sucha damn whiner! Is she EVER happy or satisfied?? Working 3 hours a day, every other day for a month stretch would sure wear me out too. :rolleyes:

I dont think you are taking into consideration the press they are doing, traveling back and forth between hub cities each day, rehearsal time, voice coach time, etc. And from your recent posting history, you have no room to talk about whining...lol!

Ulpian 05-04-2009 01:49 PM

Finally, I think, they understand Christine's feelings about touring.

BTFLCHLD 05-04-2009 01:55 PM

she chose to work soundstage promo during the 2wk break. :shrug:

nailatixela 05-04-2009 02:31 PM

It looks like May is jammed packed with dates though. Doesn't sound like Stevie is very happy about touring...hmm.

michelej1 05-04-2009 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnL (Post 818790)
I dont think you are taking into consideration the press they are doing,

They really aren't doing press. This is not like in the Tusk days where they had mics stuck in their faces after the show. They did one big joint interview at the beginning and Stevie and Lindsey did some video to kick things off. But that's about it. No local stuff, except radio by Mick.

The press Stevie has done since the tour began was for her CD/DVD.

Michele

JohnL 05-04-2009 02:47 PM

I....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 818808)
They really aren't doing press. This is not like in the Tusk days where they had mics stuck in their faces after the show. They did one big joint interview at the beginning and Stevie and Lindsey did some video to kick things off. But that's about it. No local stuff, except radio by Mick.

The press Stevie has done since the tour began was for her CD/DVD.

Michele

I totally agree with that...but still takes a lot of time out of the day, etc. I am sure she is tired and I am sure being out on the road for months at a time gets really old really fast. That was my only point. It just seems like everybody takes everything to mean that they are whining. We only get to see what the press wants us to see.

DavidMn 05-04-2009 03:21 PM

well, there was that 6 in 8 night stretch between Washington D.C and Toronto1 March 10-17. I'm not pretending to know exactly what they deal with, but I went to all 6 of those shows, on the Greyhound, some with 2 nights with 0 sleep and I'm still alive. But then again, Im nuts anyway...:laugh:

gldstwmn 05-04-2009 03:55 PM

Here we go. She's not even going to wait until after the tour this time.

Nico 05-04-2009 04:05 PM

I understand that Stevie bitches a lot. I've come to accept, even expect, it from her. But here I have to agree with her. These people are kind of up there in age and I imagine, given their lifestyles when they were younger, some may not be as resilient to consecutive days or standing/moving under large lights, belting tunes out, flying from one place to another. When you get old, these things do not become adventurous or exciting as much as just a pain in the a$$.

However, if any of them would complain I would expect it more from Lindsey. He's on the stage the entire time, running around like a madman, cutting up his fingers, singing, and then still having to deal with the responsibilities of having a family. He's got to be tired.

But still...Stevie's complaining has like another appendage. It's always going to be there. I find it sort of endearing at this point...well, at times.;)

LukeA 05-04-2009 04:42 PM

Then don't sign off on the dates, Stevie.

chiliD 05-04-2009 05:31 PM

BB King plays over 250 dates a year, EVERY year...and he's closing in on 90 AND, he's diabetic. Now, what's Stevie's bitch?? She has to go on tour for 100 shows every 6 years?? Gimme a break.

Just shows who has "paid their dues" and who hasn't. You CAN be a "mega-star" and still have a ton of "back dues" left unpaid.

Fannymac 05-04-2009 06:12 PM

Don't forget, guys.....they're all in their 60's now.....it's not as easy!!

Nico 05-04-2009 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 818841)
BB King plays over 250 dates a year, EVERY year...and he's closing in on 90 AND, he's diabetic. Now, what's Stevie's bitch?? She has to go on tour for 100 shows every 6 years?? Gimme a break.

Just shows who has "paid their dues" and who hasn't. You CAN be a "mega-star" and still have a ton of "back dues" left unpaid.

I was just starting to see her pov until you posted this...um, you are seriously right. There are so many artists older, less healthy, who tour longer and no doubt use more energy.

But everyone deals with aging differently. And it would be less interesting if she didn't have something to complain about. You have to admit it...

OT: I was just thinking about Chuck Berry. I don't know how old he is now, but he's pretty darn old...and that man can ROCK and works hard. And he didn't have an easy life either. I kinda just love him to death.

louielouie2000 05-04-2009 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 818841)
BB King plays over 250 dates a year, EVERY year...and he's closing in on 90 AND, he's diabetic. Now, what's Stevie's bitch?? She has to go on tour for 100 shows every 6 years?? Gimme a break.

Just shows who has "paid their dues" and who hasn't. You CAN be a "mega-star" and still have a ton of "back dues" left unpaid.

I saw BB last year, he was great! I think another big difference between he and Stevie is you can tell he genuinely LOVES what he does still. He's grinning from ear to ear the whole time he's on stage. He chats it up with the audience, jokes, and is genuinely jovial to still be at it, and grateful for his run. He's still putting out new material like clockwork. Stevie looks like she'd rather be having a root canal than be on stage, and then whines and bitches in the press about how hard and not fun it is, and about how there's no point in recording new material because it won't sell. She's just never seems grateful for people like us supporting her for 4 decades, and doesn't seem like she's in it for the right reasons anymore. Don't get me wrong, I still adore her, or I wouldn't be here. I just can't understand her attitude. She travels the world performing for tens of thousands of adoring, lifelong fans each night, she stays in the best 5 star hotels the world has to offer, shops without ever having to look at a price tag again, travels in the comfort of a private jet, and when it's all over she gets to go home to her multi-million dollar mansion. Just what exactly is there to be ungrateful about?? :shrug:

Phoenix 05-04-2009 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 818852)
I saw BB last year, he was great! I think another big difference between he and Stevie is you can tell he genuinely LOVES what he does still. He's grinning from ear to ear the whole time he's on stage. He chats it up with the audience, jokes, and is genuinely jovial to still be at it, and grateful for his run. He's still putting out new material like clockwork. Stevie looks like she'd rather be having a root canal than be on stage, and then whines and bitches in the press about how hard and not fun it is, and about how there's no point in recording new material because it won't sell. She's just never seems grateful for people like us supporting her for 4 decades, and doesn't seem like she's in it for the right reasons anymore. Don't get me wrong, I still adore her, or I wouldn't be here. I just can't understand her attitude. She travels the world performing for tens of thousands of adoring, lifelong fans each night, she stays in the best 5 star hotels the world has to offer, shops without ever having to look at a price tag again, travels in the comfort of a private jet, and when it's all over she gets to go home to her multi-million dollar mansion. Just what exactly is there to be ungrateful about?? :shrug:


I am NEVER one to knock Stevie, but you are right. ALOT of the rest of us are having SERIOUS problems right now, Trying to work two jobs just so you can pay your medical bills, and then having to hear someone COMPLAIN about being a "Rock STAR" is ridiculous. I dont care HOW OLD YOU ARE. SOME people in their 60's are still breaking their backs, because they have to. I am tired of all the touring anyway, and wish shed just finally do something different with the MAJORITY of her time. I know we have gotten afew things in the last 8 or so years, the deep dish and stand back remixs, soundstage, the videos finially released ect, but i always wonder what else would be going on if she wasnt touring EVERY year.

mylittledemon 05-04-2009 07:51 PM

They could very easily play one gig...and have 2 days off after each gig. They could still pull of a dozen or more shows a month that way.

Villavic 05-04-2009 09:52 PM

I could see Stevie last week in Dallas, I was near the stage. She looked tired, then I immediately remember comments at the Is Stevie Nicks dragging Fleetwood Mac's tour around? thread at Stevie's forum. I think that saying "looked half-awake" or "barely follow the tune's clip" is unfair, to me she tried to do her best, but yes she was kind of lack of energy, though she didn't move during GDW or Rhiannon as she didi in the past, she did her spinning dance at Stand Back. Her voice was very good, imho, but nevertheless her eyes looked tired. Probably the tour is exhausting.

Lindsey didn't look tired at all. He performed excellent and full of energy. Mick didn't look tired, and John well he is always quiet so I can't say.

LukeA 05-04-2009 10:31 PM

They can book as many/as few shows as they want. Stevie just wants to have her cake (as many $200K+/nt paydays as possible) and eat it too (complain complain complain). Not surprising at all.

jbrownsjr 05-04-2009 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidMn (Post 818821)
well, there was that 6 in 8 night stretch between Washington D.C and Toronto1 March 10-17. I'm not pretending to know exactly what they deal with, but I went to all 6 of those shows, on the Greyhound, some with 2 nights with 0 sleep and I'm still alive. But then again, Im nuts anyway...:laugh:

My first thought was... that schedule is gonna kill DavidMN... lol...

jbrownsjr 05-04-2009 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 818855)
I am NEVER one to knock Stevie, but you are right. ALOT of the rest of us are having SERIOUS problems right now, Trying to work two jobs just so you can pay your medical bills, and then having to hear someone COMPLAIN about being a "Rock STAR" is ridiculous. I dont care HOW OLD YOU ARE. SOME people in their 60's are still breaking their backs, because they have to. I am tired of all the touring anyway, and wish shed just finally do something different with the MAJORITY of her time. I know we have gotten afew things in the last 8 or so years, the deep dish and stand back remixs, soundstage, the videos finially released ect, but i always wonder what else would be going on if she wasnt touring EVERY year.

Thank you~~~~~~

Street_Dreamer 05-04-2009 11:01 PM

Advice to Stevie: Quit.

Advice to Mick: Call Bob, Billy, Rick, Bekka, etc. I'm certain any one of them or all would be more than happy to go on the road with more enthusiasm, and they wouldn't bitch about the schedule either.

Matt

ontheEdgeof17 05-04-2009 11:05 PM

Just goes to show, she is in it for the money and not for the joy.

LukeA 05-04-2009 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer (Post 818900)
Advice to Mick: Call Bob, Billy, Rick, Bekka, etc. I'm certain any one of them or all would be more than happy to go on the road with more enthusiasm, and they wouldn't bitch about the schedule either.

Matt

and sell 200 tickets? yeah mmkay no thanks.

TheScoop 05-04-2009 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 818852)
I saw BB last year, he was great! I think another big difference between he and Stevie is you can tell he genuinely LOVES what he does still. He's grinning from ear to ear the whole time he's on stage. He chats it up with the audience, jokes, and is genuinely jovial to still be at it, and grateful for his run. He's still putting out new material like clockwork. Stevie looks like she'd rather be having a root canal than be on stage, and then whines and bitches in the press about how hard and not fun it is, and about how there's no point in recording new material because it won't sell. She's just never seems grateful for people like us supporting her for 4 decades, and doesn't seem like she's in it for the right reasons anymore. Don't get me wrong, I still adore her, or I wouldn't be here. I just can't understand her attitude. She travels the world performing for tens of thousands of adoring, lifelong fans each night, she stays in the best 5 star hotels the world has to offer, shops without ever having to look at a price tag again, travels in the comfort of a private jet, and when it's all over she gets to go home to her multi-million dollar mansion. Just what exactly is there to be ungrateful about?? :shrug:

Maybe she finally realizes that giving up motherhood and trading off finding herself a true love for her "rock n roll lifestyle" wasn't worth it afterall. Let's face it - she gave up such a huge part of being a woman that honestly, she really didn't have to do. Every other hard working female in the music business has either gotten married and/or had children. NOBODY works harder and is more committed to their career as Madonna - yet despite putting out new CDs and touring every other year, she STILL managed to get married and have 2 children (not to mention the other 2 she adopted). This whole "there was no time" nonsense is a royal copout. Stevie has put out 2 new CDs in the past 20 years and yet she had no time? Please.

She's an old single woman who is probably very unfulfilled in her life. You can have all the money in the world, but if you're not truly happy inside, it isn't going to matter. It is quite obvious that she's unhappy at this point and who could blame her? It's obvious she doesn't want to tour anymore. It's clearly not fun for her anymore. She's no longer relevant in the music industry and that reality is probably sinking in. When she quit the drugs in '93, she really should have spent some time focusing on herself and her personal life. Her career was in the tank and she was no longer the darling of rock n roll. She was still young enough to have kids and have a real family. But she chose to release and tour off of Street Angel instead and then do nothing until The Dance.

So many years have gone by and she seems to have done a whole lotta nothing. So, if she's irritable and blaming her schedule for being tired or blaming her fans for stealing her music, can you fault her? It's probably a lot easier to blame the world for your problems than to face the reality that you might have wasted the majority of the past 20 years of your life....

Moz 05-04-2009 11:38 PM

Counting OSOTM, it would be three solo records in 20 years..

ontheEdgeof17 05-04-2009 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 818903)
and sell 200 tickets? yeah mmkay no thanks.

Well, I'd rather see Bekka singing back-up to Faith Hill than the current, bitter Stevie.



Side note: Bekka has written some stand-out songs for Faith. :nod:

Nico 05-05-2009 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheScoop (Post 818907)
Maybe she finally realizes that giving up motherhood and trading off finding herself a true love for her "rock n roll lifestyle" wasn't worth it afterall. Let's face it - she gave up such a huge part of being a woman that honestly, she really didn't have to do. Every other hard working female in the music business has either gotten married and/or had children. NOBODY works harder and is more committed to their career as Madonna - yet despite putting out new CDs and touring every other year, she STILL managed to get married and have 2 children (not to mention the other 2 she adopted). This whole "there was no time" nonsense is a royal copout. Stevie has put out 2 new CDs in the past 20 years and yet she had no time? Please.

She's an old single woman who is probably very unfulfilled in her life. You can have all the money in the world, but if you're not truly happy inside, it isn't going to matter. It is quite obvious that she's unhappy at this point and who could blame her? It's obvious she doesn't want to tour anymore. It's clearly not fun for her anymore. She's no longer relevant in the music industry and that reality is probably sinking in. When she quit the drugs in '93, she really should have spent some time focusing on herself and her personal life. Her career was in the tank and she was no longer the darling of rock n roll. She was still young enough to have kids and have a real family. But she chose to release and tour off of Street Angel instead and then do nothing until The Dance.

So many years have gone by and she seems to have done a whole lotta nothing. So, if she's irritable and blaming her schedule for being tired or blaming her fans for stealing her music, can you fault her? It's probably a lot easier to blame the world for your problems than to face the reality that you might have wasted the majority of the past 20 years of your life....

This was very well-stated and interesting to read. I must ask this, and I'm embarrassed in a way, how many solo albums, excluding compilations/box sets, has Stevie put out since the start of her solo career? I'm curious because she is considered to be the more prolific one in terms of her and Lindsey, yet I am thinking now their solo contributions are about even. But I could be wrong. I know she has tons of demos and whatnot, but no doubt so does he.

Anyway, right, back to the subject...I personally agree that Stevie complains a lot. It doesn't bother me that much, but I truly disliked when she would start publicly berating Lindsey and airing all kinds of dirty laundry that (I feel) was mainly good PR, but just made me lose some respect for her. It seemed that all she could talk about were things that happened decades ago and how much she hated the SYW tour and album. But it was a whole different story when the album was released and she was doing press for the tour at the time. So it's become more and more difficult to take her at face value.

However, I personally feel like she probably tried her best during the shows I went to. I think her singing was spot-on and she was somewhat into it at times. Yes, for the most part she was not energetic or captivating, but there were spurts. And I guess those little moments meant a lot to some people.

This co-worker of mine went to see FM and declared to me, as I mentioned in the thread with that horrible, nasty review that blasts Stevie and calls her bloated was posted, that she no longer likes nor has any respect for Stevie. Apparently, the lady had extremely good seats and was observing how "so not into it" and "blank-faced" Stevie looked. She said she ignored most of the fans and seemed lifeless, whereas Lindsey went over and above and tore it up. Although I loved hearing the lady praise LB, I felt bad for SN a little. I like her, what can I say?

Anyway, suffice to say the lady hates Stevie now and wrote some letter to somewhere affiliated with the group complaining about her lackluster performance when she paid $400 for her tickets. She basically thinks Stevie is a lazy, ungrateful, rich hag who sucks up her fans' money and delivers phoned-in performances in return. :shrug: I couldn't reason with her.

I just hope that a lot of other more casual fans aren't feeling this way...

SorcererJP 05-05-2009 01:47 AM

Well, if they just cancel a whole bunch of American dates (they had plenyt of chances in the last 19 years to see Stevie), they'll have plenty of energy for some European, Asian en Australian dates :-)

iamnotafraid 05-05-2009 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 818782)
The schedule for the first leg of Fleetwood Mac's Unleashed tour in March and April was "horrific," according to Stevie Nicks. She says they had only a few days off and that it "nearly killed all four" band members.

So all who bought a ticket for this tour could be guilty of attempted murder.....?

Peestie 05-05-2009 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nico (Post 818833)
However, if any of them would complain I would expect it more from Lindsey. He's on the stage the entire time, running around like a madman, cutting up his fingers, singing, and then still having to deal with the responsibilities of having a family. He's got to be tired.

And Lindsey's GOS tour only once had a break for more than a day in between shows, many times he played consecutive nights. I know it wasn't as long a tour as the FM one but considering how energetic he is on stage the last few years you'd think he'd wear himself out pretty quickly. I seem to remember comments after the GOS tour that he wishes it could have gone on much longer.

Even if it took their toll on all of them at least the other three were still giving it their all on stage.

mylittledemon 05-05-2009 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 818782)

The schedule for the first leg of Fleetwood Mac's Unleashed tour in March and April was "horrific," according to Stevie Nicks. She says they had only a few days off and that it "nearly killed all four" band members. Promoter Live Nation has worked more off-days into the second leg, which now runs through late June.

Sadly, its probably just time for them to hang the band up on the mantle.

Regina 05-05-2009 07:12 AM

Oh, for pity's sake.
Did any of you hear that sentence come out of her mouth? For all you know, it could be made up, misquoted, or a total tongue-in-cheek comment, complete with hearty, dirty laugh.
If Mick or John had said it, you'd be laughing.

Stevie says it and she's a bitter old (!) woman who should hang up her platforms.

Yes, she bitches sometimes and pisses me off, too, but one highly exaggerated sentence? Nah. And, the funny thing is--when she does a TV or radio interview, we have far less bitching in response. Then, she's funny and eccentric and we love, love, LOVE her! Why? Because we SEE/hear what she's actually trying to say--beyond the words. So, anyway, I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt. She could very well have been talking about the condition of the band's feet when she said that.

JohnL 05-05-2009 07:27 AM

I just have one thing to say....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina (Post 818932)
Oh, for pity's sake.
Did any of you hear that sentence come out of her mouth? For all you know, it could be made up, misquoted, or a total tongue-in-cheek comment, complete with hearty, dirty laugh.
If Mick or John had said it, you'd be laughing.

Stevie says it and she's a bitter old (!) woman who should hang up her platforms.

Yes, she bitches sometimes and pisses me off, too, but one highly exaggerated sentence? Nah. And, the funny thing is--when she does a TV or radio interview, we have far less bitching in response. Then, she's funny and eccentric and we love, love, LOVE her! Why? Because we SEE/hear what she's actually trying to say--beyond the words. So, anyway, I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt. She could very well have been talking about the condition of the band's feet when she said that.

HALLELUJAH!! At least there are still one or two sane Ledgies left around here. :xoxo:

BigAl84 05-05-2009 09:22 AM

cocaine nearly killed her....klonopin....and now the real biggie

the unleased tour of 2008...

Bwhahahahahaha

Moz 05-05-2009 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nico (Post 818911)
I must ask this, and I'm embarrassed in a way, how many solo albums, excluding compilations/box sets, has Stevie put out since the start of her solo career?

Six (studio albums): Bella Donna, The Wild Heart, Rock a Little, Other Side of the Mirror, Street Angel, and Trouble in Shangri-La.

DashingDan 05-05-2009 10:13 AM

She's only moaning cos she has no say in the schedule. It's all directed at Mick or someone in his management. She said almost the exact same thing about the Behind the Mask Tour dates (or whatever that tour was called), "What is he trying to do, kill us?" (I'm paraphrasing, check the US Magazine Article interview from that era).
If she doesn't get to select the cities, in the order that she likes them, then they're not done right.
The reporter might've caught her when she was beat, too.


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