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kak125 03-18-2009 02:51 PM

FM Billboard Boxscore - top concerts
 
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/chart...lBhJ!-83875404

FM is making some pretty good cash on this tour so far :)

1 Elton John & Billy Joel Time Warner Cable Arena
Charlotte, N.C.
March 7, 2009
$1,913,847
17,908 /
17,908
1 /
1
$175, $49.50
Live Nation

2 Cher The Colosseum at Caesars Palace
Las Vegas, Nev.
March 10-11, 14-15, 2009
$1,912,403
13,124 /
15,069
4 /
0
$250, $175, $140, $95
Concerts West/AEG Live

3 Cher The Colosseum at Caesars Palace
Las Vegas, Nev.
March 3-4, 7-8, 2009
$1,844,510
12,606 /
14,909
4 /
0
$250, $175, $140, $95
Concerts West/AEG Live

4 Fleetwood Mac Allstate Arena
Rosemont, Ill.
March 5, 2009
$1,476,642
13,712 /
13,990
1 /
0
$149.50, $49.50
Live Nation

5 Fleetwood Mac Xcel Energy Center
St. Paul, Minn.
March 3, 2009
$1,241,491
12,046 /
18,341
1 /
0
$149.50, $49.50
Live Nation

6 Fleetwood Mac Mellon Arena
Pittsburgh, Pa.
March 1, 2009
$1,148,633
11,854 /
13,075
1 /
0
$149.50, $49.50
Live Nation

7 Anita Baker Radio City Music Hall
New York, N.Y.
Feb. 13-14, 2009
$886,510
10,460 /
11,870
2 /
0
$125, $85, $50, $40
MSG Entertainment/The Bowery Presents

8 Paul Simon Beacon Theatre
New York, N.Y.
Feb. 13-14, 2009
$843,310
5,570 /
5,570
2 /
2
$260, $185, $160, $75
MSG Entertainment

9 Celtic Woman Radio City Music Hall
New York, N.Y.
March 13-14, 2009
$545,566
9,625 /
11,870
2 /
0
$73.50, $68.50, $53.50, $43.50
MSG Entertainment/Madstone Productions

10 Brad Paisley, Dierks Bentley, Darius Rucker Sommet Center
Nashville, Tenn.
March 14, 2009
$511,746
13,526 /
13,526
1 /
1
$49.75, $34.75
Live Nation

michelej1 03-18-2009 03:09 PM

Wow. I wonder if Elton and Bette Midler gross more or less than Cher when they perform at Caesar's. Wonder how Stevie did in comparison when she was there.

I am surprised that Anita Baker is that high up. I didn't know she could attract a crowd like that. I guess I just thought she fell by the wayside after Rapture.

Michele

HejiraNYC 03-18-2009 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 807216)
Wow. I wonder if Elton and Bette Midler gross more or less than Cher when they perform at Caesar's. Wonder how Stevie did in comparison when she was there.

I am surprised that Anita Baker is that high up. I didn't know she could attract a crowd like that. I guess I just thought she fell by the wayside after Rapture.

Michele

After Mama's first residency at Caesars, I believe they dubbed it a "sellout" even though eyewitness accounts suggested otherwise. The official box office receipts were put at something like 1.1 million- not too shabby, all things considered.

I suspect even Celine would be playing half-empty shows in this economic climate, so I think Cher is doing exceptionally well, all things considered. I suspect Bette is seeing some empty seats too.

wolfontherun 03-18-2009 03:25 PM

Stevie Nicks is a huge draw. Without her there would be no FM. Just sayin!

MacMan 03-18-2009 03:44 PM

I'm surprised they didn't show both Rosemont shows combined in that total. They usually do that if there's multiple dates at one venue one right after the other.

kennation 03-18-2009 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfontherun (Post 807221)
Stevie Nicks is a huge draw. Without her there would be no FM. Just sayin!

Without a doubt! They would still be up Europe's creek without a paddle.

macpai 03-18-2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfontherun (Post 807221)
Stevie Nicks is a huge draw. Without her there would be no FM. Just sayin!

All right already. Congrats on your opinion. Move on.

LukeA 03-18-2009 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacMan (Post 807229)
I'm surprised they didn't show both Rosemont shows combined in that total. They usually do that if there's multiple dates at one venue one right after the other.

This is true. But, methinks that no one involved (FM/Live Nation/venue) wanted to acknowledge that only ~4500 tickets were purchased (including the discounted ones) to the Friday show.

LukeA 03-18-2009 04:12 PM

Generally speaking, the tour appears to be running at 60-65% capacity... and that's even with the deep discounted/unpublished ticket prices for almost all the dates.

John Run 03-18-2009 05:33 PM

Azoff built this deal and if Live Nation does not want to admit mediorce sales then too bad...However the band is doing just fine. Their guarantees are substantial considering the current economic climate and competition for the entertainment dollar. Live Nation may be taking a beating, but Stevie, Lindsey, Mick & John are doing just fine with this tour.

kak125 03-18-2009 05:36 PM

If I remember correctly FM sold more tickets this time around in Pittsburgh than they did on the SYW tour so I am sure they are doing good. Billboard updates this list every week so it will be interesting to watch the numbers from week to week. Not sure why they are about 3 weeks behind though.

MacMan 03-18-2009 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kak125 (Post 807283)
If I remember correctly FM sold more tickets this time around in Pittsburgh than they did on the SYW tour so I am sure they are doing good. Billboard updates this list every week so it will be interesting to watch the numbers from week to week. Not sure why they are about 3 weeks behind though.

Here's what Billboard reported in 03 for the three venues posted today:

5/10/03 - Pittsburgh
Attendance: 12,126
Capacity: 12,126
Gross: 1,095,646

6/19 & 6/20/03 - St. Paul
Attendance: 25,271
Capacity: 25,271
Gross: 2,300,763

6/26 & 6/27/03 - Rosemont
Attendance: 28,416
Capacity: 28,416
Gross: 2,522,717

kak125 03-18-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacMan (Post 807291)
Here's what Billboard reported in 03 for the three venues posted today:

5/10/03 - Pittsburgh
Attendance: 12,126
Capacity: 12,126
Gross: 1,095,646

6/19 & 6/20/03 - St. Paul
Attendance: 25,271
Capacity: 25,271
Gross: 2,300,763

6/26 & 6/27/03 - Rosemont
Attendance: 28,416
Capacity: 28,416
Gross: 2,522,717


hey thanks for posting that, i didnt realize they sold more tickets in 2003 here in pittsburgh but after thinking about it that makes perfect sense. i remember on the syw tour they sold seats behind the stage and this time the whole section behind the stage was empty. it makes sense though since there is no way you would have been able to see anything from back there anyway.

Kelly 03-18-2009 07:55 PM

It has always bugged me that Caesar's claimed those 2005 shows were "sell outs".

Um, no. There were lots of empty seats in the upper sections. Much of the floor were comps. I think she did ok, but not as well has she had hoped. A semi permanent residency was something she seemed to really want at the time. ;)

louielouie2000 03-18-2009 08:36 PM

$250+ to see Paul Simon and Cher??? :eek: Wow... we only thought we had it rough with FM's ticket prices.

upontheventura 03-18-2009 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 807220)
After Mama's first residency at Caesars, I believe they dubbed it a "sellout" even though eyewitness accounts suggested otherwise. The official box office receipts were put at something like 1.1 million- not too shabby, all things considered.

I suspect even Celine would be playing half-empty shows in this economic climate, so I think Cher is doing exceptionally well, all things considered. I suspect Bette is seeing some empty seats too.

You have no idea how much i love that you call Stevie Mama. I LOVE it so much. I don't know why. But it is perfect.

Nico 03-18-2009 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 807324)
$250+ to see Paul Simon and Cher??? :eek: Wow... we only thought we had it rough with FM's ticket prices.

You all will pelt me but I saw Paul Simon in concert and I would absolutely pay that amount to see him again. His show was unbelievable. Cher? I'd only go if someone invited me...and that's if they were cheaper too. I'm not really into her.:sorry:

StreetAngel86 03-19-2009 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfontherun (Post 807221)
Stevie Nicks is a huge draw. Without her there would be no FM. Just sayin!

hmmm
looks like a troll
talks like a troll...

we've heard it enuff already

kennation 03-19-2009 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StreetAngel86 (Post 807436)
hmmm
looks like a troll
talks like a troll...

we've heard it enuff already

Takes one, to know ...

StreetAngel86 03-21-2009 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upontheventura (Post 807353)
You have no idea how much i love that you call Stevie Mama. I LOVE it so much. I don't know why. But it is perfect.

welcome to the Mama!love club :D

HejiraNYC 03-25-2009 02:27 PM

1 Clouseau Sportpaleis
Antwerp, Belgium
Dec. 5-27, 2008
$5,126,134
136,911 /
141,488
10 /
0
$45.70, $39.35, $33, $22.85
PSE Belgium

2 Coldplay, Mercury Rev, Decoder Ring Acer Arena
Sydney, Australia
March 11-12, 14-15, 2009
$4,703,392
59,391 /
59,391
4 /
4
$89.59, $70.39
Chugg Entertainment

3 Fleetwood Mac Allstate Arena
Rosemont, Ill.
March 5-6, 2009
$2,382,027
24,796 /
28,044
2 /
0
$149.50, $49.50
Live Nation


4 Elton John & Billy Joel Philips Arena
Atlanta, Ga.
March 14, 2009
$2,049,955
18,883 /
18,883
1 /
1
$181, $55.50
Live Nation

5 Billy Joel & Elton John U.S. Bank Arena
Cincinnati, Ohio
March 10, 2009
$1,914,327
16,065 /
16,065
1 /
1
$180, $54.50
Live Nation

6 Cher The Colosseum at Caesars Palace
Las Vegas, Nev.
March 17-18, 20-21, 2009
$1,911,450
13,095 /
15,166
4 /
1
$250, $175, $140, $95
Concerts West/AEG Live

7 Van Morrison The WaMu Theater at Madison Square Garden
New York, N.Y.
Feb. 27-28, 2009
$1,864,340
10,668 /
10,668
2 /
2
$350, $300, $200, $90
MSG Entertainment

8 Fleetwood Mac Verizon Center
Washington, D.C.
March 10, 2009
$1,605,006
14,468 /
14,468
1 /
1
$149.50, $49.50
Live Nation

9 Fleetwood Mac TD Banknorth Garden
Boston, Mass.
March 11, 2009
$1,292,161
13,005 /
17,388
1 /
0
$149.50, $49.50
Live Nation


10 Metallica, Machine Head, The Sword Sportpaleis
Antwerp, Belgium
March 5, 2009
$1,254,264
17,788 /
17,788
1 /
1
$74.01, $61.47
Live Nation

Looks like one sellout (DC) so far on this tour...

StandbackStevie 03-25-2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upontheventura (Post 807353)
You have no idea how much i love that you call Stevie Mama. I LOVE it so much. I don't know why. But it is perfect.

i do too i love i do think it fits too so I do hope to see Mama Nicks at the barnes and noble union square location in NYC Im so excited and bummed cause i have to leave later to go to get there but will take train its quicker and cheaper and just hope mama gets her rest it will be a long night..lol next tuesday on the release of her live in chicago cd/dvd im so stoked:]:thumbsup:

LukeA 03-25-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 809375)
Looks like one sellout (DC) so far on this tour...

Capacities listed in Billboard/Pollstar reporting are often manipulated to make it look like a show sold out clean (or didn't bomb as badly as it did).

skcin 03-26-2009 11:52 AM

I am actually pretty impressed that they're making this much - most of the other acts on this last were either for more than 1 show, or for more than 1 band on the bill.

MacMan 03-30-2009 08:14 PM

Another From Billboard Boxscore:

20. Fleetwood Mac
Palace of Auburn Hills
Auburn Hills, Mich.
March 8, 2009
$808,994
11,338 /
12,515
1 /
0
$149.50, $79.50, $49.50
Live Nation/Palace Sports & Entertainment

LukeA 03-30-2009 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacMan (Post 810820)
Another From Billboard Boxscore:

20. Fleetwood Mac
Palace of Auburn Hills
Auburn Hills, Mich.
March 8, 2009
$808,994
11,338 /
12,515
1 /
0
$149.50, $79.50, $49.50
Live Nation/Palace Sports & Entertainment

OUCH :eek: LOTS of deep discounted tickets sold for that one... and STILL poorly attended

DavidMn 03-31-2009 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 810868)
OUCH :eek: LOTS of deep discounted tickets sold for that one... and STILL poorly attended

Yes, as an eyewitness to this, I can tell you that I was upgraded from my upper level seat to a $150 lower level. This show, while I felt was the best of the 12 I saw, was also probably the most poorly attended. Some of this can probably be attributed to the terrible weather in the Detroit area that day, but not all.

skcin 03-31-2009 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 810868)
OUCH :eek: LOTS of deep discounted tickets sold for that one... and STILL poorly attended

Doesn't that mean there were only 1000 empty seats? Am I misunderstanding it? I don't think that's that bad. Boston had like 5000. :shrug:

DavidMn 03-31-2009 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skcin (Post 811002)
Doesn't that mean there were only 1000 empty seats? Am I misunderstanding it? I don't think that's that bad. Boston had like 5000. :shrug:

Well, what happened was that when they upgraded me, there was a entire 3 section area in the upper level opposite the stage that was blocked off with a curtain save for like the first 4 or 5 rows.

LukeA 03-31-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skcin (Post 811002)
Doesn't that mean there were only 1000 empty seats? Am I misunderstanding it? I don't think that's that bad. Boston had like 5000. :shrug:

Capacities are easily manipulated. The actual capacity (in the seating configuration that FM was using) at this venue is closer to 18000-18500.

The average ticket price is ~$71, which shows just how many tickets were sold at deep discounts.

shackin'up 03-31-2009 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 811051)
Capacities are easily manipulated. The actual capacity (in the seating configuration that FM was using) at this venue is closer to 18000-18500.

The average ticket price is ~$71, which shows just how many tickets were sold at deep discounts.

Still, Luke, you have to admit: these first series of shows were NOT the embarrasing disaster saleswise as you predicted- or even hoped :shrug:.

The band still has some credit. Because they touched A LOT of lives through the years. Even if they are not what they were once (and who is after all those years), they still have some worth, even commercially.

gldstwmn 03-31-2009 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nico (Post 807358)
You all will pelt me but I saw Paul Simon in concert and I would absolutely pay that amount to see him again. His show was unbelievable.

His show is great but I don't know about $250. On another note, I didn't even know Elton and Billy Joel were on the road again.

LukeA 03-31-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 811054)
Still, Luke, you have to admit: these first series of shows were NOT the embarrasing disaster saleswise as you predicted- or even hoped :shrug:.

"Hoped"? I resent that, Gerald. I've never wanted or hoped this band to fail at anything.

One show was canceled, several (Rochester, Rosemont #2, Auburn Hills, Toronto (3/17)) were disasters, most underperformed, and only a couple were truly successful. It looks like the second leg will shape up the same way.

shackin'up 03-31-2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 811061)
"Hoped"? I resent that, Gerald. I've never wanted or hoped this band to fail at anything.

One show was canceled, several (Rochester, Rosemont #2, Auburn Hills, Toronto (3/17)) were disasters, most underperformed, and only a couple were truly successful. It looks like the second leg will shape up the same way.

I don't see that they underperformed. They got very positive reviews, the rythmsection and lindsey did not underperform AT ALL, Stevie had to grow into the tour, and the overall energylevel impressed a lot of people: let's be fair, this band is a 59.5+ band and they play for 10.000+ people per show.

You resent my assumption that you almost "hoped" they'd fail, but the way you look at it is as far from objective as my point of view. I'm critical too, but for Buck's sake, give them the credit they deserve. They make a million every night. People go home satisfied, so it seems.

No, they are NOT innovative anymore, Live.
No, Stevie's not in her best phase in her career, but who is after 60?
No, they should NOT have agreed to these ticketprizes, those are ridiculous.
No, they are NOT better live without Christine.

But given today's facts, it is quite an achievement to bring on a 2 hour and twenty minute show with this energylevel. I LOVE the fact that they play more vulnerable and raw than during the SYW-tour, and Mick, John and Lindsey kick major instrumental *ss.

They ARE having fun. At least 3/4th of the band.

strandinthewind 03-31-2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 811054)
Still, Luke, you have to admit: these first series of shows were NOT the embarrasing disaster saleswise as you predicted- or even hoped :shrug:.

The band still has some credit. Because they touched A LOT of lives through the years. Even if they are not what they were once (and who is after all those years), they still have some worth, even commercially.

I agree - moreover 90% capacity is pretty darn good inthis economy - not to mention it was DETROIT :eek:

Glittermoondust 03-31-2009 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 811075)
I agree - moreover 90% capacity is pretty darn good inthis economy - not to mention it was DETROIT :eek:

It was actually in Auburn Hills which is a suburb of Detroit and actually pretty ritzy....

strandinthewind 03-31-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glittermoondust (Post 811228)
It was actually in Auburn Hills which is a suburb of Detroit and actually pretty ritzy....

True (I have been there) - but not all the peeps came from there :shrug: And, if they are auto execs in there, which is likely, they are hurting.

In any event, a 90% capacity crowd in likely the hardest hit city in the nation is not a bad shiow by any def. IMO.

skcin 04-01-2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 811061)
"Hoped"? I resent that, Gerald. I've never wanted or hoped this band to fail at anything.

One show was canceled, several (Rochester, Rosemont #2, Auburn Hills, Toronto (3/17)) were disasters, most underperformed, and only a couple were truly successful. It looks like the second leg will shape up the same way.


Disaster? I don't know if I'd put it that way, but it's subjective & you're obvioulsy entitled to your opinion. When you consider the 3/17 Toronto show was announced several weeks after the 3/26 show in TO, I think it sold pretty well. :shrug: Even if it was only about 2/3 full 3/17, the 3/26 show was close to (if not) sold out.

MacMan 04-01-2009 04:18 PM

More Tour Data: Billboard Boxscore 4/11/09

19 Fleetwood Mac
Madison Square Garden
New York, N.Y.
March 19, 2009
$1,708,005
14,955 /
15,258
1 /
0
$175, $45
Live Nation


27 Fleetwood Mac
Izod Center
East Rutherford, N.J.
March 21, 2009
$1,277,092
13,306 /
15,003
1 /
0
$146.50, $22
Live Nation

33 Fleetwood Mac
Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
Uniondale, N.Y.
March 13, 2009
$1,027,022
11,210 /
11,210
1 /
1
$146, $46
Live Nation

39 Fleetwood Mac
Mohegan Sun Arena
Uncasville, Conn.
March 14, 2009
$904,625
8,155 /
8,183
1 /
0
$175, $125
Live Nation/in-house


47 Fleetwood Mac
Bell Centre
Montreal, Quebec
March 25, 2009
$841,407
9,042 /
11,300
1 /
0
$122.19, $40.46
Live Nation/Gillett Entertainment Group


55 Fleetwood Mac
Blue Cross Arena
Rochester, N.Y.
March 16, 2009
$717,450
8,183 /
10,891
1 /
0
$146.50, $46.50
Live Nation


So far based on 13 shows reported:

Average Gross:$1,150,301
Average Attendance:11,720
Average Capacity:13,514
Average Ticket Price: $98.15
Average Attendance: 87%

Total Gross - 13 Shows: $14,953,913
Total Attendance - 13 Shows: 152,358

strandinthewind 04-01-2009 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skcin (Post 811546)
Disaster? I don't know if I'd put it that way, but it's subjective & you're obvioulsy entitled to your opinion. When you consider the 3/17 Toronto show was announced several weeks after the 3/26 show in TO, I think it sold pretty well. :shrug: Even if it was only about 2/3 full 3/17, the 3/26 show was close to (if not) sold out.

Moreover, if "they" (in quotes because undefined)manipulate the data to show sold out performances or portray the sales in a more favorable light than reality, why did they do that in all cases save for the one sell out?


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