Are you disappointed and embarrassed too? *spoilers*
 

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I've been an extreme fan of FM and SN for so many years. I've bought expensive tickets, went to benefit concerts, and bought just about everything there is to buy. I don't post here much but always enjoy reading the comments. This year, for the first time in over twenty years, I'm disappointed and embarrassed by the band to the extent that I will not go to see them.

I always thought of FM as artists. I find this tour to be an embarrassment.

I'm not sure how one defines "UNLEASHED" but this tour is not that. FM has never done a lot of new stuff, as we all know, but not one new song. This is outrageous. The band tells me that they are on a money run.

I think of other mega bands, like U2 or Bruce Springsteen, that always attempt to make their work anew--and do good charitable things too.

When I read the rationale for the greatest hits tour, I was skeptical. When I see that Rhiannon is not part of the set but a lesser known songs are, I question the integrity of the band. Didn't Stevie say that fans will get to see all their big hits?

I wonder if other older fans have lost their connection to this band.

Good Lord...
 

why are you people railing on Stevie constantly? And yes, Rhiannon was in the set. Sounds to me like you are passing judgement and werent even there.

Check again Rhiannon was in the set. If you're a long time fan I have no idea why you would be surprised or dissappointed or embarrassed by the set list. None of it should have been a surprise.

i am going & not embarassed to say so~ the band let us know ahead of time that it's a tour of their "hits" so to speak & that there wouldn't be any new songs~ so this was no surprise~

i got the feeling from one of the interviews i saw w/ stevie, that the band was feeling a cool reception from playing new songs & was making this a tour for the fans~ she also mentioned that new music & a tour w/ that new music could be a posssibility in the future~ but if you are truly a mac fan as you say, you should know not to hold your breath on that one, tho the thought of it is wonderful!!!~

They brought it. That's all I can say. Lindsey was on fire, Stevie was giving it everything she has, John and Mick were tight.

Yeah, it's a hits show. They billed it as that, the crowd loved them for it because most knew every single song, except one or two at most.

I admit I was wary going in. But these guys came to play. Not to grab their checks and go.

I'm kinda happy with the setlist.

See I really thought after seeing FM last night that Unleashed was a good name for the tour. They were really amazing last night and they sounded so good to me. Overall I am pretty happy with the setlist. I really wanted Sisters but so happy to hear Storms and Oh Well for the first time. Seeing FM again last night after a 5 year break made me realize how much I love this band!! They can be 80 playing these damm songs and I will still want to hear them.

AMEN Jill! I'm SOOOOOOOOO excited to go, and can't wait to hear "STORMS" - "OH WELL" and "Say You Love Me" done live!! I'm pumped as hell, and absolutely am SOOOO excited! Too bad there are so many pessimists amongst us, huh? I guess it's us "die hard" fans, that go back with them since they started out, that appreciate them! I totally agree with everything you said, and there were no suprises about this being a "Greatest hits" tour, as it was announced way ahead of time! The wonderful things I WAS suprised about, where the addition of "Say You Love Me", and a couple of other things I didn't think was going to be in the set list, so I'm pumped as hell, and can't wait to see them in May! ROCK ON FM!!!!!!! WOOHOO:xoxo:

Thanks for your comments. I'm glad that so many of you are enjoying this tour. Glad Rhiannon was in the set too.

It's true that FM never did many new songs but I think this may be the first time that we are not given at least one new song.

For me, this absence is a big deal.

I wonder if other older fans have lost their connection to this band.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I've heard these songs many times and with the Economy the way it is I would have preferred new music.
This tour feels like a money grabbing thing and it hurts to say that I'm just not into it.

they're not doing new songs because they're not promoting a new album. There are no new songs to do. This was made very clear by the band from the beginning.

wheart wrote "they're not doing new songs because they're not promoting a new album. There are no new songs to do. This was made very clear by the band from the beginning."

I'm not saying the band is misrepresenting itself. The group did say from the beginning that the Unleashed Tour would be a greatest hits tour.

But I think this is the first time the band did not do at least one or two new songs. In the past, like with the Dance tour, they did their greatest hits plus a few new songs. I prefer this model. Yes, the band dos not have new material to share.

I wish they did before inviting us to spend $150 on a ticket.

I have never seen the Mac. I missed SYW totally...or I could have had a 2003 or 2004 entry...

2005 - Saw Stevie at Red Rocks
2006 - Saw Lindsey in Denver
2007 - Saw Lindsey in Boulder
2008 - Saw Lindsey in Denver (Got stuck with 3 extra tickets)

With the economy being what it is, I will be entertained by reading the concert reviews posted here. They are more fun for me because of the excitement coming from the reviewer.

If I look at things logically, I come to the conclusion that Fleetwood Mac makes more money than I do. (And I get perturbed because money is tight right now.) I can't fault them for working, because performing (and recording) is what they do for a living.

Some might say that they are slacking off at work, by not giving new material and recycling the old....but TV gives me re-runs too...

...and after a bit of time, even I LOVE LUCY is still enjoyable. :D (It just depends on whether or not I'm gonna pay to see it.)

In short, I can't fault the band for working. I can fault myself for spending money I should be saving.

That being said....If they come out with a CD/DVD thing, I will probably buy it. :D

I would have been disappointed if I was expecting new songs - I wasn't. It's a hits tour, plain & simple. :shrug: Do I wish they would change out some tunes for others? Of course. But no, I'm not disappointed or embarrassed. It is what it is - I wasn't expecting anything more.

It looked almost sold out last night. I was 7 rows back in front of Lindsey. That man gave it his all. I love watching him play guitar. I'm a big Stevie fan, but thought she was very subdued last night. She looked fabulous. The red was great to see on her. I've been a fan since 1975 when I was in High School. I'm 47 now and have no desire to stop loving this group. I don't care if they play the same songs or not. The last time the group toured was in 2003 and I was just as amazed last night as I was then. I think the SYW tour was more interactive and bigger, but this was the first night. Overall, I'm still so happy I spent a fortune and went.

I was disappointed, but not after seeing the setlist.

I was disappointed months ago when this **** all started to hit the fan.

Having said that, I'm still going to see them in April.

Hey Josh2003, I am glad you are still gonna go see the show. I really think your going to have a great time because the show is so good and you figure its only going to get better by the time you see them. I really want to go see them in either Cleveland, New York, or Toronto again. It was that good!

This would be a great question for FM.
The band has 'lost their connection to this band' :shrug:





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Sure I would love to hear new music but honestly, if they included ONE new song then everyone would be bitching that "Such and such a song took the place where they could have played SISTERS OF THE MOON!!!!" What would annoy me a lot would be if there was a new album or some new material and then it was just ignored in concert. Nothing frustrates more than a band promoting a new album and using it as an excuse to tour but then playing none or maybe one song in total.

They came out with the intent to play hits - the tour was promoted that way. Hell, they even said it in concert (we just wanted to come out and play the songs you all know and hope you all love as much as we do). They are out making money, it's their job! They have a job for the same reason all of us do - to make cash! They don't owe us new songs or a new album or anything.

I thought the show they put on last night, and I was there, was friggin awesome. They tore the place down - it was LOUD, exciting, and a show I won't soon forget. Yeah, if they were Springsteen, the next show they would come out and open with I Don't Want to Know, Oh Well, Blue Letter, Countdown, Angel, Frozen Love (in that order)...and so on from there. Fleetwood Mac doesn't do this - they never have and they never will.

I may see FM Unleashed afterall. :shrug:
I want to see Gypsy, Sara, Storms, OH Well...etc.
I actually like the set-list. ;)
Then again, I probably have waited to long for a decent seat.
WAH and POUT.

I'm not embarassed, no. A bit disappointed, maybe, but still interested enough to see them, albeit without the urgency i would normally have felt these last 25 years or so. I've almost decided that i'll attend 2 shows and go for the worst seats i can get, to economize :)
After all, there's no 'Edge walk' on a Mac tour, i've been in the first few rows 'gazillion' of times (4 times during the SYW tour alone) and i don't expect or even want to make any superficial connection interacting with the band as they, uh, unleash this set of songs, it'll just be nice to hear the music, 'Storms', 'Say You Love Me' and 'Silver Springs'- And i recall that my favorite FMac experience was in nosebleed seats at The Forum in LA for the '82 Mirage tour, and after that show, i vowed always to be up close, and was, but now it doesn't matter to me.
What i'm a bit disappointed about, though not surprised, is that this setlist only covers Stevie's output from 1975 through 1982 with Mac, and with 'Stand Back' we get 1983 represented-- I think 'Tango In The Night' needs to be represented with both the title song from Lindsey, and 'Seven Wonders' from Stevie. That at least would bring us songs from up to 1987-88, and small things make a difference in not making it seem like such the ancient relics show it kind of is. Nostalgia aint what it used to be.
I also feel 'Straight Back' from Mirage would be a much better choice than 'Gypsy' since i just don't like 'G' live. 'Mirage' was a #1 album in the day, and people did listen to the entire albums, so i think it would be somewhat familiar to most who have the cd, and very well-received by longtime fans who have always wanted to hear it live.
Other than 'Rumours', 'Tango In The Night' was their best-selling album, worldwide it topped 7 million units sold. The title song was a fantastic tour-de-force for LB, and 'Little Lies' was a huge hit, so i think 'Little Lies' would be an excellent choice as it's hardly ever been done live. And 'Seven Wonders' did hit the Top 20, so really, 'LL' and 'SW' were the final 2 big hits of Fleetwood Mac, and i think they need to be in the show.
I like the inclusion of 'Storms' but it would be kewl if they alternated it with 'Angel' and, yes, 'Sisters of the Moon' so there'd be some element of 'what will we get tonight?' rather than knowing- it won't change. Or will it?
I should be at The Mohegan Sun Show in less than 2 weeks, and will probably also do Boston. It's been great reading about opening night here on The Ledge, thank you.

I think people are so upset with Stevie because she's currently holding the band back. It's basically her acting like a diva that is holding the band back from making new music, thus this dreaded nostalgia tour. She's putting in comatose performances to boot. The rest of the band is excited about performing, are truly enjoying their fame and creativity and unity for the first time, and Stevie just seems damn intent on being miserable and whiney. What ISN'T there to rail about?

i agree that stevie acts like a diva, but i don't think she's solely to blame for their stagnancy. i seriously doubt any of them are doing this tour to get the creative juices flowing.

Well let us not forget we are talking about a band that has, in the last THIRTY years, released albums of all new material in 1979, 1982, 1987, 1990, 1994, and 2003. It's not like they have always churned out tons of new material. Six albums over thirty years when there have been two or more songwriters in the band....not anything spectacular!

Plus, it's not like Lindsey is some recording maniac either. Oh, so recently he's been on a tear, but for how many years did he "plan" to release an album but never did for one reason or another.

My point is, I woudl say they all have some blame as to why they haven't recorded new music. I have a strong feeling all of them were turned off of the process during the Say You Will era. Maybe they don't feel like spending the time and money to record something that, IN THEIR OPINION, won't be well received by their fans.

I agree that the band does not seem to be doing this tour to get the creative juices flowing. That could very well be one reason why Stevie appears disengaged. I suspect she will get better as the weeks progress.

What I am realizing is that this is a band that often takes baby steps when it comes to making tour changes. We get excited by the number of spins Stevie does, the color dress she wears (I do too). The Stand Back, 1,2,3,4, was one of the big highlights. Looking at it again tonight, I can't help but think that there is so much more potential to this band. Unleashed, this is not.

In my imaginary perfect tour, they would have revived songs from the Buckingham Nicks era, particularly Frozen Love. I may still buy a ticket for this tour just because seeing something is better than nothing, I think.