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Hawkeye 03-01-2009 11:56 PM

Most Likely to Get Dropped (spoilers)
 
OK now that we know the set list, there's a 90 percent chance we are going to see one of the songs dropped over the next few shows. Here are my predictions in order of what I feel is likely not what I want:

1. Oh Well
2. Say You Love
3. Go Insane
4. Monday Morning (just go back to the opener they're used to)
5. Silver Springs (or they'll drop from the other end)
6. I Know Im Not Wrong
7. Storms (Ill burn the arena down)

Now here's what they should or what I want for them to drop:

1. Sara or Gypsy for Sisters or Angel
2. NGBA for Save Me a Place so it could go SMAP into Storms.

LukeA 03-02-2009 12:24 AM

How was the crowd reaction for each song? Were one (or more) of these songs received better than the others?

That said, "Oh Well" is a mortal lock to be gone by next week.

jmn3 03-02-2009 12:42 AM

Oh Well - I loved this and it got a great response. It wouldn't hurt for LB to intro the song a little bit...pay some homage to Peter and let everyone know the song's significance. If Second Hand News gets an introduction???

Say You Love Me - people were singing and dancing along.

Go Insane - I would agree this is a candidate. It sounded just fine but I could see it going away...

Monday Morning - I see this being the opener for the tour. It went over well and almost segued right into The Chain.

Silver Springs - they captivated the audience with this one and would be fools to drop it now.

IKINW - I love it but not many people know this one. Again, no intro here, but one on Second Hand News? I don't get it.

Storms - I think they actually worked hard at this one and like Silver Springs in 1997 and Beautiful Child in 2003-04, it is here for the tour.

louielouie2000 03-02-2009 01:00 AM

This is basically a repost from another thread, but I predict Storms will be dropped pretty quickly. It went over like a lead balloon. Stevie didn't seem very confident singing it, and even seemed apologetic when it was over. It's just too slow for the stage. And it's hard for me to say this, because it's one of my all time favs. :sorry:

michelej1 03-02-2009 01:11 AM

Drop Oh Well. Don't count on anything being added. Just try to hold on to what you've got.

I think Storms went over well. I don't think the audience was bored. They were reverent. But it was kind of funny when Stevie said that those who don't know the song will know it after tonight. Was that an introduction or a threat?

Michele

Phoenix 03-02-2009 01:15 AM

DO NOT, I REPEAT! PLEASE DO NOT DROP SARA. We have waited this long.
Drop stand back. Replace it with SOTM.

jmn3 03-02-2009 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 801466)
Drop Oh Well. Don't count on anything being added. Just try to hold on to what you've got.

I think Storms went over well. I don't think the audience was bored. They were reverent. But it was kind of funny when Stevie said that those who don't know the song will know it after tonight. Was that an introduction or a threat?

Michele

Yeah I too thought Storms went over quite well. That's the thing about opinions though, they are subjective and we could all have a different opinion of the song even if we all heard it at the same time. To me it appeared the crowd was into it and that it went over well, but I can certainly understand someone else thinking it flopped. Our sections may have just been more into it.

To be honest, I thought World Turning was the biggest flop of the night. It does not belong as a first encore song. And the crowd seems to lose interest and sits down during Mick's solo. The encore should be exciting and loud and should keep the crowd moving.

macpai 03-02-2009 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 801473)
Yeah I too thought Storms went over quite well. That's the thing about opinions though, they are subjective and we could all have a different opinion of the song even if we all heard it at the same time. To me it appeared the crowd was into it and that it went over well, but I can certainly understand someone else thinking it flopped. Our sections may have just been more into it.

I thought it went over really well too. People were quiet because they were listening intently.

The only song I thought didn't fare maybe as well as others was Say You Love Me. Everything else had tremendous audience reaction. The crowd was really into it, and the band as a result.

MiniLindsey 03-02-2009 02:57 AM

Oh Well should be dropped. Lindsey, as brilliant as he is, doesn't really know how to play the blues.

kennation 03-02-2009 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 801470)
DO NOT, I REPEAT! PLEASE DO NOT DROP SARA. We have waited this long.
Drop stand back. Replace it with SOTM.

Agreed. Totally. Drop Stand Back, bring us Sisters of the Moon...

Keith 03-02-2009 07:33 AM

Don't drop any song..
 
the setlist is already a bit too short.. :-) and I will join Hawkeye on the burning down of the arena if they drop Storms. I just viewed the video clip (3 times) and thought it was beautiful.

kennation 03-02-2009 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith (Post 801558)
the setlist is already a bit too short.. :-) and I will join Hawkeye on the burning down of the arena if they drop Storms. I just viewed the video clip (3 times) and thought it was beautiful.

I totally agree. It was awesome, I nearly cried. That has always been a touching song to me. Always. I am glad she did it. It was subtle, strong, vulnerable, and breataking.

skuncles 03-02-2009 08:29 AM

Just because a song doesn't go over well does not get it dropped. I doubt "Oh Well" or "Storms" would get dropped just because these are the "selling points" of the tour, these are the songs that they have been talking about, they aren't going anywhere.
"Oh Daddy" brought the show to a screeching halt on the '97 tour, yet it remained for the life of the tour (and remained in it's spot right after "Stand Back" which was totally wrong for it). On the opening night of the "Dance" tour they did "Eyes Of The World" which went over very well, but was dropped the following night and wasn't done at all again (it was replaced by "Second Hand News").
If anything I can see "Storms" and "Silver Springs" switching places. Lindsey won't be dropping any of his songs, but Stevie might drop "Gypsy" or "Sara".

wheart 03-02-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 801458)
This is basically a repost from another thread, but I predict Storms will be dropped pretty quickly. It went over like a lead balloon. Stevie didn't seem very confident singing it, and even seemed apologetic when it was over. It's just too slow for the stage. And it's hard for me to say this, because it's one of my all time favs. :sorry:

Don't kill me but I don't think Storms was the best choice for a "new" Stevie song. I love it but IMO there are others (Sisters, Angel) that would have been better. But I'm sure I'll love it when I'm actually hearing it live (assuming it's not dropped).

jannieC 03-02-2009 09:20 AM

I wish Stevie would keep her "soft" voice sometimes. What I'm hearing (on You Tube-Storms) is what I've been hearing for a while; she belts out songs (or parts of songs) that used to be sung softly. She does it on Gold Dust Woman now, too. Is it harder to sing in that raspy soft voice?

1sttimelongtime 03-02-2009 10:49 AM

I'd love to see Dreams dropped and something else (Beautiful Child, SOTM!!) put in its place.

I have not been a huge fan of Gypsy until I heard the acoustic version from one of the AHI benefits. I'd love to see it done like that on this tour.

michelej1 03-02-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by macpai (Post 801497)
I thought it went over really well too. People were quiet because they were listening intently.

The only song I thought didn't fare maybe as well as others was Say You Love Me. Everything else had tremendous audience reaction. The crowd was really into it, and the band as a result.

I thought SYLM picked up as it went along. That first verse Stevie did had me disoriented. I was trying to sing along and couldn't, but things improved.

Michele

David 03-02-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 801760)
I thought SYLM picked up as it went along. That first verse Stevie did had me disoriented. I was trying to sing along and couldn't, but things improved.

I thought they were going to do "Hold Me."

They could do it as an instrumental only.

wheart 03-02-2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 801767)
I thought they were going to do "Hold Me."

They could do it as an instrumental only.

That's one of many "hits" they didn't do. I understand they're doing songs that people connect with, but don't call it a hits tour when in fact, it's not. The only way they could possibly do a true hits tour would be to bring Christine back.

wheart 03-02-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 801458)
This is basically a repost from another thread, but I predict Storms will be dropped pretty quickly. It went over like a lead balloon. Stevie didn't seem very confident singing it, and even seemed apologetic when it was over. It's just too slow for the stage. And it's hard for me to say this, because it's one of my all time favs. :sorry:

I think it all depends on how comfortable Stevie felt singing it, and how she felt the crowd reacted to it. I wouldn't be surprised if it got the ax and Beautiful Child brought back in its place.

But then again, I thought they were going to do Little Lies so what the hell do I know?:shrug:

chiliD 03-02-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 801417)
That said, "Oh Well" is a mortal lock to be gone by next week.

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 801466)
Drop Oh Well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiniLindsey (Post 801514)
Oh Well should be dropped. Lindsey, as brilliant as he is, doesn't really know how to play the blues.


Anyone who thinks "Oh Well" is a blues tune doesn't know **** about the blues. (It still boggles my mind that Billy Burnette used to intro the song that way...what the hell was he thinkin'?) It's not like Lindsey's trying to play BB King or Elmore James tunes here.

That said, it's correct that Lindsey, even after all this time, has a tough time with it; however, after the clip I saw from last night, he's playing it better than ever...his guitar TONE still sucks (like a 1960's transistor radio on steriods with a serious sinus problem), but he's vastly improved his technique on the tune since 1982.

chiliD 03-02-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wheart (Post 801770)
I think it all depends on how comfortable Stevie felt singing it, and how she felt the crowd reacted to it.

The thing about Fleetwood Mac, they're detached from their audience. They wouldn't understand an audience reaction if it bit 'em on the butt.

wondergirl9847 03-02-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 801772)
It's not like Lindsey's trying to play BB King or Elmore James tunes here.

That's WHY Lindsey plays Oh Well...because it's not a blues song. He really has no place to sing the blues since he comes from a "Disneyland" background. LOL He can give that shout-out to Peter without going towards the blues. :)

kennation 03-02-2009 05:05 PM

Was I on drugs or were we not promised ANGEL? I thought that Mick or Stevie said they were gonna do it.

michelej1 03-02-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennation (Post 801783)
Was I on drugs or were we not promised ANGEL? I thought that Mick or Stevie said they were gonna do it.

They never said that. Not only have they not said they were going to do it, I don't think they have even mentioned the song in a good 20 years.

Michele

JbbyStew86 03-02-2009 06:10 PM

How about they dont drop ANY of them?
ININW was good (decent crowd response for that song), and I hate to see it get dropped in place of a slower one. Oh Well was phenominal, I dont understand all the naysaying. IMO they should rearrange the acoustic set. Maybe even making NGBA the full band in the middle of it would save what became a series of heavy eyelid movements. I understand the appreciation of Storms being played live for the first time, blah blah blah, and it was performed well, but they could have inserted Beautiful Child and I wouldnt have noticed the difference. I realize thats almost blasphemy, but I would have put another B/N McVie cover in there instead.

Sorcerer386 03-03-2009 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jannieC (Post 801589)
I wish Stevie would keep her "soft" voice sometimes. What I'm hearing (on You Tube-Storms) is what I've been hearing for a while; she belts out songs (or parts of songs) that used to be sung softly. She does it on Gold Dust Woman now, too. Is it harder to sing in that raspy soft voice?

I think it's just that Stevie's range has lowered so much that what once were easy notes for her to sing soft are now notes she has to belt out in order to hit.

kennation 03-04-2009 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 801787)
They never said that. Not only have they not said they were going to do it, I don't think they have even mentioned the song in a good 20 years.

Michele

hmmm... I wonder why I thought that? :sorry: Maybe it was all of our faux setlists? Anyway... I wouldn't mind dropping IKINW for Angel. Or drop Standback for SOTM. I am sure they will readjust and make things even better. I just have to have Silver Springs. it rocked.

P.S.
When are we gonna get the video from tonight's show? Or at least a review?

michelej1 03-04-2009 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 802269)
hmmm... I wonder why I thought that? :sorry: Maybe it was all of our faux setlists?

It's definitely on all of my setlists. Tell Mick we really want it:). Michele

louielouie2000 03-04-2009 07:52 AM

Update: Now Stevie is saying Storms is too emotionally dark to be performed live. I predict it's demise shortly. :distress:

kennation 03-04-2009 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 802276)
It's definitely on all of my setlists. Tell Mick we really want it:). Michele

Do not doubt, for one second, that your feelings will not be expressed to Mick. I have a few things I want to say to him. My first thing is to thank him for what he and the band have done for me through the years. My second thought, how we are all in need of less standback and more SOTM... My third thought: Let's say goodbye to Go Insane and tell a few LITTLE LIES... (I feel that now is the time to hear Lindsey do an accoustic version of this song...) Would that not be awesome? SOTM and LL? I think it would be fantastic.

... That is my plan. Now, I may go stupid and get intimidated. In that event, I may just drool and not say much, lol.

OH!!! I forgot to tell you all... They cancelled the pre-show party for my show... My guess is that so few people purchased the package that they decided that it would not truly be worth it... They claimed, "logistical" reasons. Any thoughts?

michelej1 03-04-2009 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennation (Post 802326)

OH!!! I forgot to tell you all... They cancelled the pre-show party for my show... My guess is that so few people purchased the package that they decided that it would not truly be worth it... They claimed, "logistical" reasons. Any thoughts?

That's interesting. I have such little experience with ILAA that I don't know what that means. Well, as long as they give you the ticket and gift bag, I guess it doesn't matter. Good luck. It's just around the corner now.

Michele

Tango 03-04-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 802487)
That's interesting. I have such little experience with ILAA that I don't know what that means. Well, as long as they give you the ticket and gift bag, I guess it doesn't matter. Good luck. It's just around the corner now.

Michele


I was at an ILAA show in the past. The pre show party was a light dinner, open bar and during that hour they would periodically give out autographed items from the band--more unique and personal than the gift bag. They did this give away via raffle. You'll still get the ticket to the show and early access to the souvenir stations (I think we got a discount coupon, as well) which should give you a good chance to look things over.

PenguinHead 03-04-2009 07:24 PM

[QUOTE=kennation;802326] My second thought, how we are all in need of less standback and more SOTM... My third thought: Let's say goodbye to Go Insane and tell a few LITTLE LIES... (Would that not be awesome? SOTM and LL? I think it would be fantastic.

QUOTE]

Little Lies would have been a great pick for the set. It was such a huge hit for them, and aside from Say You Love Me, they could easily adapt the song to the current line up.

Nicks Fan 03-04-2009 09:16 PM

If this was the setlist I would be happy

1. Monday Morning
2. The Chain
3. Dreams
4. Eyes of The World
5. Seven Wonders
6. Peacekeeper
7. Rhiannon
8. I'm So Afraid
9. Sara
10. Say You Will
11. Hold Me
12. Big Love
13. Gypsy (Acoustic)
14. Storms
15. Never Going Back Again
16. Beautiful Child
17. That's Allright
18. Oh Well
19. Can't Go Back
20. Tusk
21. Go Your Own Way
22. Sisters of The Moon
23. I Know I'm Not Wrong
24. Don't Stop
25. Landslide

I think this setlist has enough staples and hits that cover the B/N catalogue quite well. Having Landslide as the closer would be a nice change of pace. Also since I find Gold Dust Woman, Silver Springs, and World Turning to be not very good live anymore I shelved them in favour of some other goodies (Seven Wonders, Hold Me). I also included two Say You Will Singles for those Casual fans that might actually know these songs.

Matt

wheart 03-04-2009 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=PenguinHead;802584]
Quote:

Originally Posted by kennation (Post 802326)
My second thought, how we are all in need of less standback and more SOTM... My third thought: Let's say goodbye to Go Insane and tell a few LITTLE LIES... (Would that not be awesome? SOTM and LL? I think it would be fantastic.

QUOTE]

Little Lies would have been a great pick for the set. It was such a huge hit for them, and aside from Say You Love Me, they could easily adapt the song to the current line up.

Yes, Tango In the Night is barely represented on this tour and Little Lies could be done very easily with the current line up. It could have made a good set even better.

wheart 03-04-2009 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennation (Post 802326)
Do not doubt, for one second, that your feelings will not be expressed to Mick. I have a few things I want to say to him. My first thing is to thank him for what he and the band have done for me through the years. My second thought, how we are all in need of less standback and more SOTM... My third thought: Let's say goodbye to Go Insane and tell a few LITTLE LIES... (I feel that now is the time to hear Lindsey do an accoustic version of this song...) Would that not be awesome? SOTM and LL? I think it would be fantastic.

... That is my plan. Now, I may go stupid and get intimidated. In that event, I may just drool and not say much, lol.

OH!!! I forgot to tell you all... They cancelled the pre-show party for my show... My guess is that so few people purchased the package that they decided that it would not truly be worth it... They claimed, "logistical" reasons. Any thoughts?


Are you getting any of your $$ back? I would hope so, if the package price included the pre-show party. And seriously, you need to let SOTM go. :laugh::laugh:

Phoenix 03-04-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wheart (Post 802628)
Are you getting any of your $$ back? I would hope so, if the package price included the pre-show party. And seriously, you need to let SOTM go. :laugh::laugh:

OMG! the first time i think i have ever disagreed with you! SISTERS OF THE MOON! TELL HIM kennation! :thumbsup::nod:

TheScoop 03-04-2009 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennation (Post 802326)
Do not doubt, for one second, that your feelings will not be expressed to Mick. I have a few things I want to say to him. My first thing is to thank him for what he and the band have done for me through the years. My second thought, how we are all in need of less standback and more SOTM... My third thought: Let's say goodbye to Go Insane and tell a few LITTLE LIES... (I feel that now is the time to hear Lindsey do an accoustic version of this song...) Would that not be awesome? SOTM and LL? I think it would be fantastic.

... That is my plan. Now, I may go stupid and get intimidated. In that event, I may just drool and not say much, lol.

Less Stand Back? Stevie's portion of the set is already one big snoozefest. Cut out Stand Back and there goes the one upbeat song she performs throughout the night. Just tell him her set needs more SOTM and leave out the SB comment. And while you're at it, suggest a few more uptempo songs from her FM catalog (Seven Wonders, Straight Back, Love Is Dangerous, RTTG, & EFO). She's already performed half of those songs in concert in the past, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem for her to do them again, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennation (Post 802326)
OH!!! I forgot to tell you all... They cancelled the pre-show party for my show... My guess is that so few people purchased the package that they decided that it would not truly be worth it... They claimed, "logistical" reasons. Any thoughts?

You really should demand a partial refund if that is the case. You were promised something for that price and they have not delivered. From a legal standpoint, you're probably entitled to a full refund as the contract between you (the buyer) and them (the seller) was not fulfilled. For all anyone knows, that could have been the deciding factor of whether or not you opted for the package in the first place (I'm sure it wasn't, but I'm just making a point). Are they replacing the party with anything else? Or just removing it from the list?

Tango 03-04-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScoop (Post 802651)
You really should demand a partial refund if that is the case. You were promised something for that price and they have not delivered. From a legal standpoint, you're probably entitled to a full refund as the contract between you (the buyer) and them (the seller) was not fulfilled. For all anyone knows, that could have been the deciding factor of whether or not you opted for the package in the first place (I'm sure it wasn't, but I'm just making a point). Are they replacing the party with anything else? Or just removing it from the list?

Agreed. The final coup de grāce would be for Mick to stand up the few that made this outrageous purchase only to find that Mick is too busy with administrative affairs-- and instead sends his autographed picture.


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