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louielouie2000 02-19-2009 03:30 PM

Does Stevie still smoke?
 
Cigarettes that is... we know she still likes the wacky weed :lol: . I ask because it seems her voice has improved some since Trouble In Shangri La. I was just listening to some interviews from the Trouble In Shangri La era, and it's very obvious she was still a heavy smoker then... she sounded so gross! But it seems her speaking AND singing voices are both clearer and higher these days. Anyone have the 411? :wavey:

kennation 02-19-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 798995)
Cigarettes that is... we know she still likes the wacky weed :lol: . I ask because it seems her voice has improved some since Trouble In Shangri La. I was just listening to some interviews from the Trouble In Shangri La era, and it's very obvious she was still a heavy smoker then... she sounded so gross! But it seems her speaking AND singing voices are both clearer and higher these days. Anyone have the 411? :wavey:

From what I understand she use to smoke 2+ packs of KOOLs a day, but she has quit. I read that she used the patch, or something... Maybe it was the gum... Either way, she doesn't smoke anymore. (FROM WHAT SHE TELLS US, lol)

HejiraNYC 02-19-2009 03:40 PM

I suspect that after she went through her "change of life," she probably started up with some kind of estrogen replacement therapy. Ask Suzanne Somers- it sure has kept her all perky and girly after all these years.

Phoenix 02-19-2009 03:42 PM

She suposedly has not smoked in years. (cigarettes that is)

David 02-19-2009 03:47 PM

Maybe she thinned her rib cage & her upper torso by fasting, & then took treatment for COPD.

SuzeQuze 02-19-2009 04:41 PM

She quit in '98. I remember because she did Mix Fest that year and had just quit smoking. She'd lost weight too and looked and sounded so wonderful. It was like, "She's baaaack." Awesome. She did use the patch.

CADreaming 02-19-2009 06:41 PM

There were reports of people seeing her smoking on the SYW tour but who knows...

kennation 02-19-2009 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 799040)
There were reports of people seeing her smoking on the SYW tour but who knows...

YAY!!! I love Stevie as a smoker. I saw a picture of her smoking and was like, somehow that seems to fit her. I know it's bad for the health, but it seemed to fit her. A girlfriend of mine tried to convince me that she was still on drugs after we watched a couple of videos together one night. I saw her point in one video that's on youtube, but she could have just been really into the moment... I will post video when I find it. I am sure she is all clean, sober, and smoke-free. Surely ;)

P.S.
Why is it everyone thinks that she smokes grass? I would have never pegged her for that.

CADreaming 02-19-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 799054)
YAY!!! I love Stevie as a smoker. I saw a picture of her smoking and was like, somehow that seems to fit her. I know it's bad for the health, but it seemed to fit her. A girlfriend of mine tried to convince me that she was still on drugs after we watched a couple of videos together one night. I saw her point in one video that's on youtube, but she could have just been really into the moment... I will post video when I find it. I am sure she is all clean, sober, and smoke-free. Surely ;)

P.S.
Why is it everyone thinks that she smokes grass? I would have never pegged her for that.

Oh, she totally smokes weed. I think the reason is the demos that are out where she talks about it. LB hit the pipe a few times on the DR doc, and I'm sure he shared... ;)

kennation 02-19-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 799055)
Oh, she totally smokes weed. I think the reason is the demos that are out where she talks about it. LB hit the pipe a few times on the DR doc, and I'm sure he shared... ;)

I have the destiny rules doc and I never saw a pipe. Please tell me where to look... I doubt very seriously that it is in there.

CADreaming 02-19-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 799062)
I have the destiny rules doc and I never saw a pipe. Please tell me where to look... I doubt very seriously that it is in there.

Lindsey clearly hits the pipe when they are in the studio with Mark Needham. The segments are sped up so you have to watch it in slow motion. It's near the end of the segment, I believe the music for Miranda is playing over it, and Stevie has left the control room. It's John, Lindsey and Mick sitting at the table and Lindsey reaches back behind him to his left, gets the pipe and lights it - you can see the smoke rise and he does it a couple of more times.

BombaySapphire3 02-19-2009 09:39 PM

I believe the date that she has mentioned as when she quit smoking was January of 1997 ..5 months prior to the taping of The Dance..not certain if she has relapsed since then,

louielouie2000 02-19-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 799054)
P.S.
Why is it everyone thinks that she smokes grass? I would have never pegged her for that.

Watch the Destiny Rules doc. When she is rambling about who buys records and double albums and such, she's as high as a kite. Just look at her eyes. If you've ever smoked pot, or known anyone who has smoked pot, that look is unmistakable.

There is also a demo of The Dealer where she says, and I quote:

"Alright, where's the dope? I need to smoke a joint, at least a little bit of a joint. Hey, so I'm a rock and roll hippie."

kennation 02-19-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 799075)
Watch the Destiny Rules doc. When she is rambling about who buys records and double albums and such, she's as high as a kite. Just look at her eyes. If you've ever smoked pot, or known anyone who has smoked pot, that look is unmistakable.

There is also a demo of The Dealer where she says, and I quote:

"Alright, where's the dope? I need to smoke a joint, at least a little bit of a joint. Hey, so I'm a rock and roll hippie."

Ok... I thought that you saw an actual pipe lying around. I knew Lindsey would be way tooo on top of things for that. I will agree with you- the woman does look a little stoned there. HAHAAA :lol: She total does.

I have never heard The Dealer... is it good? If anyone owns the demo where she asks for a joint, I would love to hear it!!! Please post it!!!

CADreaming 02-19-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 799077)
Ok... I thought that you saw an actual pipe lying around. I knew Lindsey would be way tooo on top of things for that.

Check my earlier post - he is smoking a pipe in DR...

MariaA37 02-19-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 799077)
I have never heard The Dealer... is it good? If anyone owns the demo where she asks for a joint, I would love to hear it!!! Please post it!!!

There's about a hundred demos and different versions of The Dealer. I'm going to start a new thread with a few to get you started. I like the song--its grown on me.

~Maria

kennation 02-19-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 799079)
Check my earlier post - he is smoking a pipe in DR...

HOW ON THIS GREEN EARTH DID YOU NOTICE THAT?!?!?! I just spent the last half hour of my life rewinding, fastforwarding, zooming, analyzing that dvd... YOU ARE RIGHT!!! How did you notice that? He is totally hitting that pipe! I love the fact that he still has a little grass every now and then. Not my thing, but rock on, LB! Seriously, CADreaming, you have eyes like a frappin' hawk. What's more? He didn't even hide it. It was out there for everyone to see. Lindsey, you sly cat, you! Bless his heart. I could imagine what days with Stevie and that band is like. I would have to hit a pipe, or two, myself- :lol: Well done, CADreaming! Well done! KUDOS TO YOU! I am only this psyched because no one else would have, or has- to my knowledge, noticed it. Wow... I zoomed in on my 73" television so it was like, I could smell the weed it was so close, lol. I also do that with Stevie's Soundstage blu-ray... I zoom in so she is life size, lol. Thanks for the LB/Grass point out! Well done!

CADreaming 02-20-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 799082)
HOW ON THIS GREEN EARTH DID YOU NOTICE THAT?!?!?! I just spent the last half hour of my life rewinding, fastforwarding, zooming, analyzing that dvd... YOU ARE RIGHT!!! How did you notice that? He is totally hitting that pipe! I love the fact that he still has a little grass every now and then. Not my thing, but rock on, LB! Seriously, CADreaming, you have eyes like a frappin' hawk. What's more? He didn't even hide it. It was out there for everyone to see. Lindsey, you sly cat, you! Bless his heart. I could imagine what days with Stevie and that band is like. I would have to hit a pipe, or two, myself- :lol: Well done, CADreaming! Well done! KUDOS TO YOU! I am only this psyched because no one else would have, or has- to my knowledge, noticed it. Wow... I zoomed in on my 73" television so it was like, I could smell the weed it was so close, lol. I also do that with Stevie's Soundstage blu-ray... I zoom in so she is life size, lol. Thanks for the LB/Grass point out! Well done!

ROFLOL! Thanks, I guess I've just got good eyesight? The smoke caught my attention the first time I saw it and so I slowed it down and voila! Funny stuff, isn't it? It's also funny before that where Stevie picks up her dog and leans it over to Lindsey while he's laying down on the sofa, I guess for him to pet it or I could just hear her making "doggie" talk to Lindsey with it..."Hi, Linds. Pet me!" LOL.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...gsnltokin2.jpg

GypsyGirl15 02-20-2009 08:18 AM

I think I've watched DR 12 times since I got it last November, but I never noticed that.

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or I could just hear her making "doggie" talk to Lindsey with it..."Hi, Linds. Pet me!" LOL.
:lol:

bellagypsy79 02-20-2009 11:02 AM

This is a funny subject. Stevie's voice has improved a little not because of cigarettes. Cigarettes don't improve your voice, they make you sound like Marianne Faithfull. Stevie works with a vocal coach now. That's why she sounds so good. I really don't think that she was "high as a kite" in that Destiny Rules Doc. She was probably exausted from recording and arguing with Buckingham. Hell, arguing with that man could make anyone exausted. LOL! I love him to death, but sometimes, he can be a little strange. LOL! I've gotta check out that "pipe thing" with Lindsey on the doc. though. LOL!:blob2::]

HejiraNYC 02-20-2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bellagypsy79 (Post 799142)
This is a funny subject. Stevie's voice has improved a little not because of cigarettes. Cigarettes don't improve your voice, they make you sound like Marianne Faithfull. Stevie works with a vocal coach now. That's why she sounds so good. I really don't think that she was "high as a kite" in that Destiny Rules Doc. She was probably exausted from recording and arguing with Buckingham. Hell, arguing with that man could make anyone exausted. LOL! I love him to death, but sometimes, he can be a little strange. LOL! I've gotta check out that "pipe thing" with Lindsey on the doc. though. LOL!:blob2::]

Well, my recollection is that Stevie started working with a vocal coach ever since The Dance era in 1997, so I don't think that could explain why Stevie sounds better now after sounding a bit "off" between the TISL and SYW eras. I think there could be a number of factors:

-Weight gain/loss
-Hip/back/foot issues necessitating the use of corticosteroids (which helps to explain the SYW weight gain)
-Menopause
-Better management of her chronic bronchitis/asthma

I also suspect that non-stop touring has forced her to maintain peak form on a constant basis; remember, no moss grows on a rolling stone. :shrug:

louielouie2000 02-20-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bellagypsy79 (Post 799142)
This is a funny subject. Stevie's voice has improved a little not because of cigarettes. Cigarettes don't improve your voice, they make you sound like Marianne Faithfull. Stevie works with a vocal coach now. That's why she sounds so good. I really don't think that she was "high as a kite" in that Destiny Rules Doc. She was probably exausted from recording and arguing with Buckingham. Hell, arguing with that man could make anyone exausted. LOL! I love him to death, but sometimes, he can be a little strange. LOL! I've gotta check out that "pipe thing" with Lindsey on the doc. though. LOL!:blob2::]

You're not getting what I'm saying: her STOPPING SMOKING seems to have helped her voice tremendously. She was supposedly seen smoking during the SYW tour, and her voice was kinda ragged during that and the TISL tour. She's sounded better since. I agree with Hejira too though... I think it's a combo of things contributing to her improved voice.

Regarding her smoking pot, she's said in several interviews that she quote "hasn't done any HARD DRUGS since 1986." She's a baby boomer, hippie, rock star... if she DIDN'T smoke pot, I'd be very, very surprised.

kennation 02-20-2009 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 799152)
You're not getting what I'm saying: her STOPPING SMOKING seems to have helped her voice tremendously. She was supposedly seen smoking during the SYW tour, and her voice was kinda ragged during that and the TISL tour. She's sounded better since. I agree with Hejira too though... I think it's a combo of things contributing to her improved voice.

Regarding her smoking pot, she's said in several interviews that she quote "hasn't done any HARD DRUGS since 1986." She's a baby boomer, hippie, rock star... if she DIDN'T smoke pot, I'd be very, very surprised.

Louie, you are nothing if not consistent. I AM LMAO!!! :lol:

bellagypsy79 02-20-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 799152)
You're not getting what I'm saying: her STOPPING SMOKING seems to have helped her voice tremendously. She was supposedly seen smoking during the SYW tour, and her voice was kinda ragged during that and the TISL tour. She's sounded better since. I agree with Hejira too though... I think it's a combo of things contributing to her improved voice.

Regarding her smoking pot, she's said in several interviews that she quote "hasn't done any HARD DRUGS since 1986." She's a baby boomer, hippie, rock star... if she DIDN'T smoke pot, I'd be very, very surprised.

Sorry. I wasn't reading carefully. My bad. LOL!:]:p

michelej1 02-20-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 799122)
ROFLOL! Thanks, I guess I've just got good eyesight? The smoke caught my attention the first time I saw it and so I slowed it down and voila! Funny stuff, isn't it? It's also funny before that where Stevie picks up her dog and leans it over to Lindsey while he's laying down on the sofa, I guess for him to pet it or I could just hear her making "doggie" talk to Lindsey with it..."Hi, Linds. Pet me!" LOL.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...gsnltokin2.jpg

Maybe they thought since it was speeded up, no one would notice.

With her dog, I like the part in rehearsal where the dog is running around during GYOW and Lindsey follows it a little and he runs away. I don't think the dog cared for the shackin' up part:p.

Michele

EveryHour 02-20-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 798995)
I was just listening to some interviews from the Trouble In Shangri La era, and it's very obvious she was still a heavy smoker then... she sounded so gross!

I think what you're referring to here had to do with menopause. Hormones effect changes in women's voices throughout their life. When she was in the thick of it, she openly discussed (and we all noticed) a drop in her energy level, at which time her voice may have been a bit more gravelly. Now that she is through it and feeling better (and possibly taking some type of supplemental estrogen), her voice may be more youthful again.

I believe that Stevie did 'officially' quit cigarettes in '97, but as for pot.....who knows?! If she has had some minor cigarette relapses since then (the alleged SYW smoking sightings), that would not be at all unlikely or uncommon. Everyone I know who has quit smoking has relapsed anywhere from once to multiple times. They say the main goal is to stay on the path of not becoming a full time smoker again, because cigarettes are so incredibly addictive on so many levels and therefore incredibly difficult to stay away from! I'm sure it's likely still a challenge that rears its ugly head for Stevie sometimes, especially given that she has a variety of many addictions in her past.

AliceLover 02-20-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EveryHour (Post 799197)
I think what you're referring to here had to do with menopause. Hormones effect changes in women's voices throughout their life. When she was in the thick of it, she openly discussed (and we all noticed) a drop in her energy level, at which time her voice may have been a bit more gravelly. Now that she is through it and feeling better (and possibly taking some type of supplemental estrogen), her voice may be more youthful again.

I believe that Stevie did 'officially' quit cigarettes in '97, but as for pot.....who knows?! If she has had some minor cigarette relapses since then (the alleged SYW smoking sightings), that would not be at all unlikely or uncommon. Everyone I know who has quit smoking has relapsed anywhere from once to multiple times. They say the main goal is to stay on the path of not becoming a full time smoker again, because cigarettes are so incredibly addictive on so many levels and therefore incredibly difficult to stay away from! I'm sure it's likely still a challenge that rears its ugly head for Stevie sometimes, especially given that she has a variety of many addictions in her past.

I agree with most of what you said. I remember reading concert reviews for the Say You Will Tour, Atlanta 2004, specifically and fans said they saw her smokin butts before the show. Im sure its just for her nerves. As for the pot, I have full confidence that Stevie Nicks still gets high. She lives alone (basically) and has tons of money, im sure a joint or two gets the creative juices going for her.

StevieRox2 02-20-2009 05:05 PM

IMO, she still tokes up. I saw her when she toured with Tom Petty a few years ago and her eyes are soooooo glassy and heavy - and she so got into American Girl, look at the tour pics and her eyes - who could blame her? toking with Tom & the gang - good times for sure!

wheart 02-20-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGirl15 (Post 799124)
I think I've watched DR 12 times since I got it last November, but I never noticed that.



:lol:

OK, I've never noticed it either. Now I have to watch it tonight!!

kennation 02-21-2009 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wheart (Post 799221)
OK, I've never noticed it either. Now I have to watch it tonight!!

It's true... It's all there... Just ask LOUIE! My man knows where to find it. (STILL LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY!) All day long all I said, "Way to be LB!" People I work with didn't find it as amusing as I did, but who cares. I thought it was documentary gold!

CADreaming 02-21-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 799261)
It's true... It's all there... Just ask LOUIE! My man knows where to find it. (STILL LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY!) All day long all I said, "Way to be LB!" People I work with didn't find it as amusing as I did, but who cares. I thought it was documentary gold!

Haha! I have to agree - documentary gold... Columbian gold... ;)

GypsyDreams 02-21-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 799122)
ROFLOL! Thanks, I guess I've just got good eyesight? The smoke caught my attention the first time I saw it and so I slowed it down and voila! Funny stuff, isn't it? It's also funny before that where Stevie picks up her dog and leans it over to Lindsey while he's laying down on the sofa, I guess for him to pet it or I could just hear her making "doggie" talk to Lindsey with it..."Hi, Linds. Pet me!" LOL.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...gsnltokin2.jpg

OK! I am sooooo watching my DR DVD tonight!!! I can't wait to see this :] Love that pic too..we been tokin' LMAO They do seem to be pretty chillaxed there. :lol:

vivfox 02-21-2009 02:41 PM

Well I can't speak for Stevie, but the last time I smoked a cigarette was on June 16,2002. Anytime since then that I've thought about lighting one up again I look up and in large imaginary letters I see the words S-L-E-E-P - -- A-P-N-E-A.
That is the reason why I know I will NEVER smoke cigs again!!! I love this website. Everyone cracks me up.

ShangriLaTroubl 02-21-2009 03:18 PM

I personally don't think she smokes, however she may give in and have one every so often. I know I personally saw her smoking, as did others, at the July 30th 2001 Chastain Park show in Atlanta. We watched the Soundcheck through the wood fence, and she DEFINITELY smoked in between songs. Now, what she was smoking? Who knows, the way she held it looked like a cigerrette though.

CADreaming 02-21-2009 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyDreams (Post 799300)
OK! I am sooooo watching my DR DVD tonight!!! I can't wait to see this :] Love that pic too..we been tokin' LMAO They do seem to be pretty chillaxed there. :lol:

Couldn't resist...they're the only ones in the photo with shades on...:thumbsup:

kennation 02-22-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 799377)
Couldn't resist...they're the only ones in the photo with shades on...:thumbsup:

CADreaming you are the star of this thread. Absolutely! That picture is hilarious.

GypsyGirl15 02-22-2009 12:20 PM

It's so funny watching all the fast forwarded sequences in slow motion.

CADreaming: Do you have the original of that photo? I had it on my computer, but can't find it now.

vivfox 02-22-2009 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl (Post 799319)
Now, what she was smoking? Who knows, the way she held it looked like a cigerrette though.

When I used to smoke a joint you might of thought I was holding a cigarette too.

Moz 02-22-2009 10:46 PM

The quality blows, but...
 
Here's the Destiny Rules pot incident slowed down... :lol: Thought someone might get a kick out of it. I sure did!


CADreaming 02-22-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 799419)
CADreaming you are the star of this thread. Absolutely! That picture is hilarious.

I LOVE that! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by GypsyGirl15 (Post 799423)
It's so funny watching all the fast forwarded sequences in slow motion.

CADreaming: Do you have the original of that photo? I had it on my computer, but can't find it now.

Here ya go!

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...xingstudio.jpg


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Originally Posted by Moz (Post 799498)
Here's the Destiny Rules pot incident slowed down... :lol: Thought someone might get a kick out of it. I sure did!


HYSTERICAL!!! Thanks for posting! :]


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