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iamnotafraid 12-14-2008 01:25 AM

NEW FL. MAC DVD and Rumours CD with unreleased tracks.
 
I might have missed it, I don't read every thread. But I'm surprised that nobody is talking about the new DVD/CD set that's going to be released to coincide with the tour.

SteveMacD 12-14-2008 01:35 AM

Really? You're surprised? Most of us who've been her a while are SICK of the various repackagings of Rumours. I bet MOST people here would be more excited with expanded reissues of Fleetwood Mac Live, Mirage, Tango In The Night, and whatever the hell else they could reissue before a Rumours boxed set.

Me? I'm waiting for the 1973 and 1975 sets from Midnight Special to come out on DVD. It'll never happen, but damnit, it should for Miles Away, Believe Me, and Why. For that matter, release the Midnight Special from 1974. Those were a glorious, if not mostly underrated time in Fleetwood Mac's history.

iamnotafraid 12-14-2008 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 788531)
Really? You're surprised? Most of us who've been her a while are SICK of the various repackagings of Rumours. I bet MOST people here would be more excited with expanded reissues of Fleetwood Mac Live, Mirage, Tango In The Night, and whatever the hell else they could reissue before a Rumours boxed set.
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:laugh: You may have a good point there SteveMacD. I'm more interested in the video myself.

But isn't this a better topic than, oh...I don't know, another poll?

GoS 12-14-2008 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 788536)
:laugh: You may have a good point there SteveMacD. I'm more interested in the video myself.

But isn't this a better topic than, oh...I don't know, another poll?

I don't know, let's post a poll and ask people what they think.

I am interested in the "never before heard" stuff, but how many times do they need to re-issue Rumours?

marinnette 12-14-2008 12:09 PM

we want Mirage and Tango In The Night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as well as the solo albums Stevie and Lindsey released in the 80's!

starshine 12-14-2008 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinnette (Post 788560)
we want Mirage and Tango In The Night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as well as the solo albums Stevie and Lindsey released in the 80's!

I agree with you though Tango isn't my favorite lp/cd....I'd still throw 'Live' in there as well.....they could put a 'ton' more rare live material for that cd too....and release some 'live' dvd footage too......As much as I have liked Rumours.....they keep beating a long dead horse....yes we know its your best selling LP ever....I'm curious to really know how much 'more' rare songs could be unrelased from that period. Personally, on the Tusk re-issue (2 cd set) on the rare cd I still kinda feel cheated some. I mean they put 3 of the same Lindsey songs on it when there were more songs of Stevies they could've put on it....so other then the 'rare' Sara version which most of us have heard (though great to have it 'finally' on cd)....they still could've given us killer versions of Angel or SOTM with the extra verses/or Storms.....whatever else.....So in some ways I'm kinda bummed about that one really.....and rare photos and such.....not the best....so I will be curious to 'see' what actually becomes of this supposed cd/dvd release coming up?? I do wonder.....I do hope its not cheated again.....thats all.....IMO any other thoughts......:confused::shrug:

BombaySapphire3 12-14-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by starshine (Post 788562)
Personally, on the Tusk re-issue (2 cd set) on the rare cd I still kinda feel cheated some. I mean they put 3 of the same Lindsey songs on it when there were more songs of Stevies they could've put on it....so other then the 'rare' Sara version which most of us have heard (though great to have it 'finally' on cd)....they still could've given us killer versions of Angel or SOTM with the extra verses/or Storms.....whatever else.....So in some ways I'm kinda bummed about that one really.....and rare photos and such.....not the best....so I will be curious to 'see' what actually becomes of this supposed cd/dvd release coming up?? I do wonder.....I do hope its not cheated again.....thats all.....IMO any other thoughts......:confused::shrug:

The more risky and adventurous thing for Fleetwood Mac to do in 2009 is to release a CD/DVD honoring their other masterpiece in the year of it's 30th anniversary .They could perform Tuskcentric shows .Nicks could do all of her stellar songs from that album including of course the never performed live Storms .Buckingham would have nine songs to choose from or do them alll..realistically the only Christine song that would really work is Think About Me.Naturally though they will choose the option that they think will appeal to the largest amount possible of ticket buyers and go with yet another Rumours retread.

TrueFaith77 12-16-2008 10:02 AM

Actually, it just hit me that maybe the Rumours re-release on CD will be joined by a vinyl 180 gram re-release of Rumours!!! The prospect of that actually has me VERY for a Rumours re-release.

seekerj 12-16-2008 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 788531)
Really? You're surprised? Most of us who've been her a while are SICK of the various repackagings of Rumours.


Really? How many repackagings have there been? There was the "original" CD release from the 80's, then later, a few years ago, the remastered version with the CD of outtakes. That's only two in CD format. And most bands/artists have released remastered versions of the bad-sounding CDs that were put out by the labels in the 80's when CDs first came out; this is not by any means Rumours-specific. Ok, then there was the DVD-Audio, but that was a different format that required a DVD-A player to actually hear the mix; this won't even play on a CD palyer, and now the format is dead, anyway.

Were there other releases of Rumours besides these?

kennation 12-16-2008 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seekerj (Post 788881)
Really? How many repackagings have there been? There was the "original" CD release from the 80's, then later, a few years ago, the remastered version with the CD of outtakes. That's only two in CD format. And most bands/artists have released remastered versions of the bad-sounding CDs that were put out by the labels in the 80's when CDs first came out; this is not by any means Rumours-specific. Ok, then there was the DVD-Audio, but that was a different format that required a DVD-A player to actually hear the mix; this won't even play on a CD palyer, and now the format is dead, anyway.

Were there other releases of Rumours besides these?

That was my take on it as well. they had to release it in a different format so it could sell on. I am just excited about the DVD. I am sure that with enough YOUTUBE views you will have seen the most it has to offer. Maybe I wrong. Maybe it will showcase some REALLY different material. Either way, I will buy it because I SUPPORT THIS BAND. They have given me good times and I feel it is my duty to return the favor.

SteveMacD 12-16-2008 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seekerj (Post 788881)
Really? How many repackagings have there been? There was the "original" CD release from the 80's, then later, a few years ago, the remastered version with the CD of outtakes. That's only two in CD format. And most bands/artists have released remastered versions of the bad-sounding CDs that were put out by the labels in the 80's when CDs first came out; this is not by any means Rumours-specific. Ok, then there was the DVD-Audio, but that was a different format that required a DVD-A player to actually hear the mix; this won't even play on a CD palyer, and now the format is dead, anyway.

Were there other releases of Rumours besides these?

Vinyl
8-track
cassette
cassette with the white Fleetwood Mac album
CD
DVD-A
Expanded edition CD (which didn't sound all that different, to my ears)
Classic albums


Why do a Rumours box before remastering Mirage, which is the epitome of a bad-sounding CD put out in the 80's? Get to the other stuff first, then revisit Rumours. Hell, reissue the Tusk doc and Mirage concert video first. Dare I say reissue expanded editions of albums from Then Play On through Heroes Are Hard To Find? There is so much more to the band's history, and they're just going on cruise control with Rumours.

A classic example of how to release another expanded edition of a recently reissued/expanded album would be the Byrds album Sweetheart of the Rodeo. Yeah, it was recently reissued as a two CD set shortly after a remastered version was released. But, the other (Columbia) albums were reissued with remastered/expanded editions first.

skcin 12-16-2008 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 788570)
The more risky and adventurous thing for Fleetwood Mac to do in 2009 is to release a CD/DVD honoring their other masterpiece in the year of it's 30th anniversary .They could perform Tuskcentric shows .Nicks could do all of her stellar songs from that album including of course the never performed live Storms .Buckingham would have nine songs to choose from or do them alll..realistically the only Christine song that would really work is Think About Me.Naturally though they will choose the option that they think will appeal to the largest amount possible of ticket buyers and go with yet another Rumours retread.

Good call. The Dance was basically the tribute tour to Rumours, in my eyes anyway. "Everything you do has been done."

I'm starting to believe the only thing that would make me happy at this point is if they play Rumours start to finish & Christine is there. So I'm going to shut up now. :D

chiliD 12-16-2008 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 788888)
Quote:

Originally Posted by seekerj (Post 788881)
Really? How many repackagings have there been? There was the "original" CD release from the 80's, then later, a few years ago, the remastered version with the CD of outtakes. That's only two in CD format. And most bands/artists have released remastered versions of the bad-sounding CDs that were put out by the labels in the 80's when CDs first came out; this is not by any means Rumours-specific. Ok, then there was the DVD-Audio, but that was a different format that required a DVD-A player to actually hear the mix; this won't even play on a CD palyer, and now the format is dead, anyway.

Were there other releases of Rumours besides these?

Vinyl
8-track
cassette
cassette with the white Fleetwood Mac album
CD
DVD-A
Expanded edition CD (which didn't sound all that different, to my ears)
Classic albums


Why do a Rumours box before remastering Mirage, which is the epitome of a bad-sounding CD put out in the 80's? Get to the other stuff first, then revisit Rumours. Hell, reissue the Tusk doc and Mirage concert video first. Dare I say reissue expanded editions of albums from Then Play On through Heroes Are Hard To Find? There is so much more to the band's history, and they're just going on cruise control with Rumours.

Let's not forget Greatest Hits with 4 Rumours songs, The Chain box AND The Very Best Of Fleetwood Mac both with 10 of the 12 songs (includes "Silver Springs"), and The Dance with 6 of its 17 tracks being from Rumours...."beating a dead horse"?? This is just psychotic how they've kept rehashing ONE album over & over....and not just Rumours, add in the rehashing of the 1975 album's songs, too, and you'd think those were the only two albums Fleetwood Mac ever released.

jbrownsjr 12-16-2008 02:34 PM

More Rumours... Ground Breaking...

Good thing Lindsey didn't want a Rumours II.... he got about 12 of them...

kennation 12-16-2008 02:49 PM

I WOULD LOVE to have the TUSK documentary. I don't care how much it would cost! I just loved that! I lost it in a house fire that I had YEARS ago, along with a HUGE collection of things released before I was born, lol. I need to see TUSK DOC re-released on BLURAY! LOL (LIKE THAT WILL EVER HAPPEN!) I just hope that this doesn't put the mac in with meatloaf, stuck int that, "bat out of hell" situation... ya know?

iamnotafraid 12-16-2008 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 788888)
Vinyl
8-track
cassette
cassette with the white Fleetwood Mac album
CD
DVD-A
Expanded edition CD (which didn't sound all that different, to my ears)
Classic albums


Why do a Rumours box before remastering Mirage, which is the epitome of a bad-sounding CD put out in the 80's?

SteveMac, you can't really count different formats as a re-release.
And I disagree that the DVD-A and Remastered Ex. Edition didn't sound
all that different.

I wish like the rest of you that they would remaster Mirage and Tango,
and even the pre-Buckingham Nicks era albums. But would they sell?

This last bit of information is just a guess on my part, and has nothing to
do with anything I've heard officially (I kind of hope I'm wrong too). But
I think the video that will be released with the updated version of Rumours
will be like what was released with Stevie's "Crystal Visions". Follow me?

(Again that's not official)

DeeGeMe 12-16-2008 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennation (Post 788909)
I WOULD LOVE to have the TUSK documentary. I don't care how much it would cost! I just loved that! I lost it in a house fire that I had YEARS ago, along with a HUGE collection of things released before I was born, lol. I need to see TUSK DOC re-released on BLURAY! LOL (LIKE THAT WILL EVER HAPPEN!) I just hope that this doesn't put the mac in with meatloaf, stuck int that, "bat out of hell" situation... ya know?

Me too. I've got a bootleg but I'd love an official high-quality DVD release.

kennation 12-16-2008 08:09 PM

So when I meet Mick I am gonna say, "Hey, why not give us what we want? A Fleetwood Mac (ALL INCLUSIVE) Documentary BOX SET?!" I think that is what we all would like to see. Get it on a general, usable, and easy to use format then BRING IT TO US! We all want it. OFFICIAL, and PAID FOR! ya know? Maybe he will say that I have great ideas and take me on the road with him raking in millions, lol! A fella can dream, can't he?

SteveMacD 12-16-2008 08:53 PM

Have you seen that Beatles video box? Can you imagine an all-inclusive Fleetwood Mac box? One that would have every video and professionally recorded show in the band's history? Two DVDs of the Peter Green years (if there's enough material). One DVD from the Welch years (maybe with Fleetwood Mac-related clips from the Roxy video, to fill out the DVD, since there's not that much video footage from that era). Largo. Rosebud. Japan. Tusk Doc. Mirage concert video. Tango In The Night (expanded/unedited). Another Link In The Chain. Classic Albums. The Dance. Live In Boston. Music videos. History of the band DVD. I'm sure it would be harder than hell to clear all of those copyrights, but the thought kicks ass. Yeah, I'd fork over big bucks for something like that. In a heartbeat.

mylittledemon 12-16-2008 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennation (Post 788955)
So when I meet Mick I am gonna say, "Hey, why not give us what we want? A Fleetwood Mac (ALL INCLUSIVE) Documentary BOX SET?!" I think that is what we all would like to see. Get it on a general, usable, and easy to use format then BRING IT TO US! We all want it. OFFICIAL, and PAID FOR! ya know? Maybe he will say that I have great ideas and take me on the road with him raking in millions, lol! A fella can dream, can't he?

Yeah. No more re-hashes of Rumours. I can't take it. They don't need to sell any more copies of Rumours.

If I could speak frankly with Mick...I'd say this:

Get someone like Dashut, who is probably doing jack all, to remaster the 80s albums (Mirage, Tango).

They need to release the Mirage concert remastered on DVD.

The Tusk tour Documentary needs a DVD release.

The Dance needs a new DVD release, in widescreen, with bonus footage (hell, there were 3 nights that were filmed!!) Put them out! PERIOD.

And on top of all that, they need to do whatever they need to do to get Christine back. They're missing a small part of the "magic."

StreetAngel86 12-17-2008 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 788907)
More Rumours... Ground Breaking...

Good thing Lindsey didn't want a Rumours II.... he got about 12 of them...

:lol:


so this tour is the Dance pt deux? :eek:

StreetAngel86 12-17-2008 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 788961)
Have you seen that Beatles video box? Can you imagine an all-inclusive Fleetwood Mac box? One that would have every video and professionally recorded show in the band's history? Two DVDs of the Peter Green years (if there's enough material). One DVD from the Welch years (maybe with Fleetwood Mac-related clips from the Roxy video, to fill out the DVD, since there's not that much video footage from that era). Largo. Rosebud. Japan. Tusk Doc. Mirage concert video. Tango In The Night (expanded/unedited). Another Link In The Chain. Classic Albums. The Dance. Live In Boston. Music videos. History of the band DVD. I'm sure it would be harder than hell to clear all of those copyrights, but the thought kicks ass. Yeah, I'd fork over big bucks for something like that. In a heartbeat.


:eek:



OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i will sell my non existent offspring for all that stuff :thumbsup:

michelej1 12-17-2008 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mylittledemon (Post 788968)
The Dance needs a new DVD release, in widescreen, with bonus footage (hell, there were 3 nights that were filmed!!) Put them out! PERIOD.

And on top of all that, they need to do whatever they need to do to get Christine back. They're missing a small part of the "magic."


And there were 2 nights of Mirage. I don't need them to reedit footage or anything. Just put the concerts out the way they were filmed. And let us judge the different takes for ourselves. I'd enjoy seeing that more than the lightened, sweetened finished product they give us any time.

Michele

Peestie 12-17-2008 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 788912)
I wish like the rest of you that they would remaster Mirage and Tango,
and even the pre-Buckingham Nicks era albums. But would they sell?

They'd sell enough. I have plenty of remastered albums by bands that haven't even sold as many albums in total as probably the lowest selling Fleetwood Mac album (any era). If these bands can justify it then so can Fleetwood Mac for albums that sold 5 million copies.

skcin 12-18-2008 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 788961)
Have you seen that Beatles video box? Can you imagine an all-inclusive Fleetwood Mac box? One that would have every video and professionally recorded show in the band's history? Two DVDs of the Peter Green years (if there's enough material). One DVD from the Welch years (maybe with Fleetwood Mac-related clips from the Roxy video, to fill out the DVD, since there's not that much video footage from that era). Largo. Rosebud. Japan. Tusk Doc. Mirage concert video. Tango In The Night (expanded/unedited). Another Link In The Chain. Classic Albums. The Dance. Live In Boston. Music videos. History of the band DVD. I'm sure it would be harder than hell to clear all of those copyrights, but the thought kicks ass. Yeah, I'd fork over big bucks for something like that. In a heartbeat.

Good call dude. Wouldn't it make more sense to release everything in 1 huge package aimed at diehard fans, rather than to continue putting out the same album over & over again in the hopes that all the casual fans will buy it..again?

Most big fans (myself included) would be more than willing to spend a couple hundred bucks on a sweet package that contains the stuff you mentioned above. But I don't know that too many casual fans are going to say "hey, it's a NEWER release of Rumours with a DVD. Hmm...I just bought a copy a few years back, but I'll buy another in case there's something different on this one."

michelej1 12-18-2008 10:39 PM

I was just reading some DVD reviews and one new release is for the game show Password, highlights from 1962-1967. Huh??

Don't get me wrong, I will buy this DVD. They had some celebrity contestants on that show that I would like to see (young Letterman and Woody Allen, etc.). I'm just saying if there's a market for that kind of thing, I know they could make money by just opening up the FM vault. Why is Mick, who could always use a dollar, hoarding everything?

Michele

skcin 12-19-2008 10:02 AM

^ I've said it before & I'll say it again - bands & artists who are less well-know/popular with much lower sales figures than Mac have released comprehensive collections containing most (if not all) of their albums remastered & old footage on DVD. Why not Mac?


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