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ajmccarrell 09-17-2008 04:51 PM

Atheist Tries to Behead Christian Neighbors
 
Someone asked about crazed athiest attackers who try to kill people... Well, here's one. Nothing against atheists, but people of any religion, or no religion, can be crazy.

http://cbs4denver.com/local/russell.....2.817933.html

estranged4life 09-17-2008 05:00 PM

I wonder if Mr.Bowman is praying to God he doesnt lose his eye :shrug:


:D

ajmccarrell 09-17-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life (Post 774231)
I wonder if Mr.Bowman is praying to God he doesnt lose his eye :shrug:


:D

I basically like your tag picture at the bottom, it just isn't supported by the facts. Just take a trip to China or read up on the former Soviet Union to see atheism's death toll. Nothing against atheism, but people will use any religion, or no religion, or any ideological means necessary, to rape, kill, control and oppress other people.

estranged4life 09-17-2008 05:09 PM

Uh...
 
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Originally Posted by ajmccarrell (Post 774234)
I basically like your tag picture at the bottom, it just isn't supported by the facts. Just take a trip to China or read up on the former Soviet Union to see atheism's death toll. Nothing against atheism, but people will use any religion, or no religion, to rape, kill control and oppress other people.

you apparently take offense at something I find hilariously inaccurate - Terrorism would exist even if religion never existed.

ashton 09-17-2008 05:46 PM

I would be fascinated to hear about how and why the subject of crazed atheist killers came up in the first place and who exactly asked about such an odd thing.

strandinthewind 09-17-2008 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life (Post 774235)
you apparently take offense at something I find hilariously inaccurate - Terrorism would exist even if religion never existed.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!

Musicman408 09-17-2008 06:13 PM

Ugghh, crazy people like this scare me.:distress:

BombaySapphire3 09-17-2008 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Musicman408 (Post 774285)
Ugghh, crazy people like this scare me.:distress:

uh exactly whom were you referring to the man with the shotgun ..the would be decapitating atheist or ajmcarrell?:lol:

GoldDustOrphan 09-17-2008 06:26 PM

The AP story has been corrected elsewhere.
The shotgun-owner - referred to as "another neighbor" - is actually a roommate of the two women.
Bowman was drunk and did lose the eye.
There was also a history of conflict between the two households. Bowman filed an earlier report claiming he was being harassed, which doesn't excuse what he did.

gldstwmn 09-17-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 774293)
uh exactly whom were you referring to the man with the shotgun ..the would be decapitating atheist or ajmcarrell?:lol:

Lolz. :laugh: Go read up on China and the Soviet Union you fools!

ajmccarrell 09-17-2008 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life (Post 774235)
you apparently take offense at something I find hilariously inaccurate - Terrorism would exist even if religion never existed.


Sure it would. You don't think some other excuse would be used to kill people? If it wasn't religion it would be something else. It's like blaming guns for killinjg people. In places where guns aren't allowed, people use knives or whatever else they can get their hands on. Religion isn't the problem, people are the problem.

ajmccarrell 09-17-2008 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 774293)
uh exactly whom were you referring to the man with the shotgun ..the would be decapitating atheist or ajmcarrell?:lol:

A perfect example of YOU making the argument about me and not me doing it. :wavey:

mylittledemon 09-17-2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life (Post 774231)
I wonder if Mr.Bowman is praying to God he doesnt lose his eye :shrug:


:D

hahahaha. genius.

ajmccarrell 09-17-2008 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ashton (Post 774262)
I would be fascinated to hear about how and why the subject of crazed atheist killers came up in the first place and who exactly asked about such an odd thing.

it came up in other conversations where religion was blamed for killing people and someone asked me in I could find an example of athiesm killing people. Besides the obvious examples of Stalin and Pol Pot killing millions of people in the name of athiesm, more than religion ever killed, here was this bozo on the news.

estranged4life 09-17-2008 08:29 PM

Sorry...
 
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Originally Posted by ajmccarrell (Post 774336)
If it wasn't religion it would be something else. It's like blaming guns for killinjg people.

guns don't kill people, Bullets do!

Ban the bullet and the gun is a useless prop.

:thumbsup:

ajmccarrell 09-17-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 774300)
Lolz. :laugh: Go read up on China and the Soviet Union you fools!

Pol Pot and Stalin both killed people to stop religion from spreading. They killed in the name of athiesm and if you believe the body count, they killed more people than any religious war ever did. This is documented historical fact people, again, very basic stuff; if you would take your heads out of your asses and listen to something besides party line. :wavey:

ajmccarrell 09-17-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life (Post 774340)
guns don't kill people, Bullets do!

Ban the bullet and the gun is a useless prop.

:thumbsup:

Ah, I get it. So, if you can't defend your position, make jokes so you seem like you have a point. :laugh:

BombaySapphire3 09-17-2008 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ajmccarrell (Post 774341)
Pol Pot and Stalin both killed people to stop religion from spreading. They killed in the name of athiesm and if you believe the body count, they killed more people than any religious war ever did. This is documented historical fact people, again, very basic stuff; if you would take your heads out of your asses and listen to something besides party line. :wavey:

I am certain that she understands those particular parts of history quite well and the Democratic "party line" does not deny any of it occured :rolleyes:.Do you really want to go down this road again?

ajmccarrell 09-17-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 774346)
I am certain that she understands those particular parts of history quite well and the Democratic "party line" does not deny any of it occured :rolleyes:.Do you really want to go down this road again?

If she understood it, she wouldn't be making that point because it is obviously wrong, unless she is wrong on purpose. It's not a matter of opinion, it isn't even debatable. The democratic party line simply ignores the point and pretends it doesn't exist, rather then deny history. For those who follow the party line, it appears that history only begins the day you are born. Russian or European terrorists don't use religion, so the point is false on it's face. As Standy said, "Res ipsa loquitur".

GoldDustOrphan 09-17-2008 08:38 PM

I believe history begins at conception.

BombaySapphire3 09-17-2008 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ajmccarrell (Post 774350)
If she understood it, she wouldn't be making that point. The democratic party line simply ignores the point and pretends it doesn't exist, rather then deny history. For those who follow the party line, it appears that history only begins the day you are born.

Bud I'm really concerned you are cycling off of your meds again..that is one of the most preposterous things I have heard since Mooseilini last opened her trap!:lol:

strandinthewind 09-17-2008 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 774352)
. . . since Mooseilini last opened her trap!:lol:

she crossed her other leg while sitting?

ajmccarrell 09-17-2008 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 774352)
Bud I'm really concerned you are cycling off of your meds again..that is one of the most presposterous things I have heard since Mooseilini last opened her trap!:lol:

Based on what? What makes it preposterous? Because you say so? LOL! Point to some source, or else you're talking out of your ass. Again, you make the argument about me instead of addressing what I said. You really are incapable of debating ideas. You'd much rather take unfounded cheap shots, but then again, I don't expect more out of you.

estranged4life 09-17-2008 08:40 PM

I don't have...
 
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Originally Posted by ajmccarrell (Post 774343)
Ah, I get it. So, if you can't defend your position, make jokes so you seem like you have a point. :laugh:

to defend my position to you, simple as that...and I dont align myself down party lines as you stated earlier (Though it appears you do - kind of hypocritical dontcha think?)

Seems like when the Liberals members here show their facts, you answer by rambling and rambling not really making a case point that is totally comprehensible nor do you back up you words.

Over the years as a member here, I watched many such as yourself get burnt over and over again with the same style of debating the Democrats here...

And it seems your getting toasted in the same manner - Open mouth, insert foot and enjoy sandwich!

And unlike SOME, I dont post egotistical stuff such as "The difference is that your ego has no accomplishments to back it up."

Brian "Here before you arrived, will still be here when you're gone" j.

BombaySapphire3 09-17-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ajmccarrell (Post 774354)
Based on what? What makes it preposterous? Because you say so? LOL! Point to some source, or else you're talking out of your ass. Again, you make the argument about me instead of addressing what I said. You really are incapable of debating ideas. You'd much rather take unfounded cheap shots, but then again, I don't expect more out of you.

You made the preposterous statement so you need to prove it..the burden of proof is not mine I'm afraid.

gldstwmn 09-17-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldDustOrphan (Post 774351)
I believe history begins at conception.

Good one! :laugh:

gldstwmn 09-17-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ajmccarrell (Post 774350)
If she understood it, she wouldn't be making that point because it is obviously wrong, unless she is wrong on purpose.

You're wrong! You're uneducated! Go read up on Stalin and Pol Pot you fools!
















Are you getting the point yet? :laugh:

estranged4life 09-17-2008 08:46 PM

Winner!!!
 
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Originally Posted by GoldDustOrphan (Post 774351)
I believe history begins at conception.

Best statement yet!!! :thumbsup:

gldstwmn 09-17-2008 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 774353)
she crossed her other leg while sitting?

Bad ump bump! :laugh:

strandinthewind 09-17-2008 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 774368)
Bad ump bump! :laugh:

on festive occasions, I can be amusing :cool:

estranged4life 09-17-2008 08:49 PM

That's why...
 
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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 774370)
on festive occasions, I can be amusing :cool:

us ol' Ledgies like ya.

gldstwmn 09-17-2008 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ajmccarrell (Post 774354)
You'd much rather take unfounded cheap shots, but then again, I don't expect more out of you.

We'd debate you, you just don't have any skills. When pressed, you simply change the subject to something else. That is not a debate. I'm kind of amazed at your inablility to stay on point. We've had some pretty legendary debates on here. Go read the archives.

mylittledemon 09-17-2008 08:50 PM

Hey, cant we all keep this forum from returning to the way it was before that "other" fleetwood mac forum was formed earlier this year?

ajmccarrell 09-17-2008 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life (Post 774355)
to defend my position to you, simple as that...and I dont align myself down party lines as you stated earlier (Though it appears you do - kind of hypocritical dontcha think?)

Seems like when the Liberals members here show their facts, you answer by rambling and rambling not really making a case point that is totally comprehensible nor do you back up you words.

Over the years as a member here, I watched many such as yourself get burnt over and over again with the same style of debating the Democrats here...

And it seems your getting toasted in the same manner - Open mouth, insert foot and enjoy sandwich!

And unlike SOME, I dont post egotistical stuff such as "The difference is that your ego has no accomplishments to back it up."

Brian "Here before you arrived, will still be here when you're gone" j.

Again, you just attacked me and dodged my question. I did back up my position. I sent you to some readings, but you chose to ignore them.

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4076

Here is a nice summary of arguments made, so you won't have to read the entire books on the subject by Christopher Hitchens and the like.

ajmccarrell 09-17-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 774373)
We'd debate you, you just don't have any skills. When pressed, you simply change the subject to something else. That is not a debate. I'm kind of amazed at your inablility to stay on point. We've had some pretty legendary debates on here. Go read the archives.

Why waste my time reading that tripe. I haven't changed the subject, no less than five times today I've asked the person responding to me to challenge my argument and not me personally. Try taking my positions down. No one has tried yet, they just accuse me of something. Come on, try it. LOL!

gldstwmn 09-17-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon (Post 774374)
Hey, cant we all keep this forum from returning to the way it was before that "other" fleetwood mac forum was formed earlier this year?

Has nothing to do with that.

estranged4life 09-17-2008 08:54 PM

Makes me miss...
 
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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 774373)
We'd debate you, you just don't have any skills. When pressed, you simply change the subject to something else. That is not a debate. I'm kind of amazed at your inablility to stay on point. We've had some pretty legendary debates on here. Go read the archives.

irishgrl - Watching you gldstwmn and irishgrl debate others was worth the paying membership.

BombaySapphire3 09-17-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon (Post 774374)
Hey, cant we all keep this forum from returning to the way it was before that "other" fleetwood mac forum was formed earlier this year?

you mean when we had great and interesting people like Amber ,dissention .Mari ,rickypt and others ?That would be a most welcome return IMHO.

mylittledemon 09-17-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 774377)
Has nothing to do with that.

If you say so. I do trust you, after all...

mylittledemon 09-17-2008 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 774380)
you mean when we had great and interesting people like Amber ,dissention .Mari ,rickypt and others ?That would be a most welcome return IMHO.

I've actually forgotten the names of the one or two I managed to routinely piss off. No joke.


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