Screwed @ Royce Hall 9/14/2008
 

Hello fellow Fleetwood Mac fans. This is my first post and I want to preface it by saying I have been a HUGE Fleetwood Mac since 1977. I own everything from 1975 - the present. I have seen the band many times and Stevie solo. I have even seen the "Time" era incarnation of the band!! I had never seen LB live before until this past week and I was blown away!! His voice is perfect and he is one of the best guitar players I have ever seen. He is soooo underrated... hell he's not even rated! But, he is amazing. The show was a perfect mix of new songs (great), old solo songs and Fleetwood Mac songs. I absolutely give the show a 10 out of 10... so why was I "screwed"...

After the show ended I took my LP copies of "Go Insane" and "Tusk" outside and waited patiently by the tour bus for Lindsey to come out in hopes of getting an autograph. These LPs are for my personal collection. I have over 30 LPs signed, framed and displayed in my home. Everyone from Neil Diamond to Alice Cooper. It's a hobby and they look pretty cool too.

As I waited a few more fans gathered. I would say there were no more than 15 people including 2 in wheel chairs... I bring that up for what follows. After about 30 minutes LB appears. as he comes out to get in his car the fans approach... as LB begins signing (he only signed for 2 people) his wife begins to vocally oppose this impromptu autograph session... "No Lindsey! You can't do this tonight. We have to go. We have to put the kids to bed!" At that point Lindsey drops the pen and shuffles off to his car.

WTF!!! There were 15 of us!! No one was pushing everyone was polite. I have never witnessed anyone be so rude to their fans. It was truly disappointing given the fact that there was so few people waiting and to be honest... when will any of us have a chance to meet Lindsey again. This is not the way I would expect a musician of his caliber to behave especially to what he himself called a "hometown crowd." Remember Mrs. Buckingham... the mansion you are driving home to tonight was built with the hard earned $$$ that the fans have forked over for 30 years.

If anyone else has had a bad experience... or good for that matter. I would love to hear it.

Wow i am shocked he did that.If he is that pussy whipped I would be very disappointed. did he say anything before leaving? Did any one say anything to him to voice their disappointment?Also why does every show have to have his wife and kids there anyway?He needs to leave them at home.Also hes not as responsive this time around unlike say you will tour where he actually went out of his way for fans.very disappointing

No one said a thing... his children were present so everyone was being very respectful which made the situation all the more frustrating.

I guess I understand having the kids there when daddy is playing at home but you know what... mommy could have taken the kids home right after the show so that daddy can finish the nights business which sometimes includes meeting the fans. If Pete Townshend can come out and meet the fans I think LB should too.

Traditionally, Kristen has always looked down her nose at Lindsey's fans, so this is not entirely surprising. Over the years, she's made it pretty clear that she thinks we're a bunch of losers. All of that aside, though... she's still a pretty unpleasant person on various levels.

As for Lindsey, he does usually (although often begrudgingly) take the time to briefly meet with fans after shows. Many fans on this board have had their picture taken with him, etc. This is markedly different than his behavior towards fans on the Say You Will tour, where you never knew what Lindsey you were going to get after the show (especially at meet-n-greets) .

She was very unpleasant to put it nicely. If you don't want to meet the fans then sneak out!

I have to say that I have had several experiences meeting Lindsey, and he has NEVER been anything but polite to me and others. He has always taken the time to conversate and sign whatever fans had for him. I'm sorry you had a negative experience.

Me too. BUT I'm glad to hear you have had many great experiences.
I'm still a big fan but at first I was like... "Wait a minute... I'm supposed to go buy your new CD on Tuesday but this is how you're treating me?"

Needless to say I bought the CD.

He was nothing but nice to me as well. Then again, his wife wasn't around either. I don't think his family was with him at the show i was at. So, I guess in that sense I got lucky.

I hope he doesn't take them to ny!

Oh, he will. Sorry :(

Well, here is my experience. I've already posted about it in the Seattle thread, but I'm bored so I will do it again.

After the Seattle show, my brother and I waited at the back of the theatre hoping to get a picture and autograph. I have been to several FM and LB shows throughout the years, have amassed a huge collection of stuff, and, at this point, the only thing I really want anymore was to get a picture with LB.

At first, there was only two of us there. As people started coming out of the back of the theatre (Brett, Neal), two more people showed up. So there was a total of FOUR people there wanting autographs etc.

First Kristen comes out and then Lindsey. I said, "Lindsey can I please get a picture." Kristen gave me a snotty look, like "oh god, here we go again." I don't really give a lying flip what Kristen thinks, I have no interest in Lindsey other than being a huge fan of his music, so she just needs to chill. Lindsey looked over and said "suuuree," very very reluctantly.

He came over and I got a picture. He didn't smile or anything, seemed very uncomfortable, and just made a weird face. Then another person got a picture and two people got autographs really quickly. Literally, this took about about two minutes. He kept saying, "ok, I have to go. This is all I can do." Then he said "gotta go" and jumped in the car. He seemed very reluctant, very hurried, and just not in a good mood.

That is fine. But after reading how cool he was about signing autographs and taking pictures last tour, that was what I was expecting. I was pretty disapponted in the encounter. Granted, Lindsey doesn't have to sign or take pictures with ANYONE, but, by now, I think Lindsey knows his fan base is pretty small, but also very LOYAL. I don't care if he had to stay out for an hour to sign autographs and take pictures, I think he owes that much to his fans.

I guess I just didn't understand the reluctance and somewhat bad attitude. It kind of left me with a bad impression. I have tickets to another show, but at this point I'm debating about even going because of this experience. On a side note, Brett Tuggle came out before Lindsey and I did get a picture with him. He was so nice and very cool. He somewhat made up for the bad Lindsey experience.

Kristen totally has major bitchface during most fan encounters. That is pretty much fact at this point.

I met Lindsey back in January 2007 during the UTS tour in my hometown of Fort Worth (where the DVD was filmed) and Kristen was with him. She let him take his time and he took pics with people, signed autographs, chatted. It was very pleasant and not rushed. She got in the car and waited for him to finish. There were maybe 10 people back there that night. He was in a WONDERFUL mood too. I met him on other occassions too (Seattle, Denver to name a couple more) and he was really nice.

I think K (especially) and LB were in bad moods that night and I'm sorry to hear that, for the fans' sake. Everyone who waits out there (the TRUE fans and not some autograph hounds, I mean) deserves an autograph/pic as long as they are polite and patient, if you ask me.

Please don't take this to heart and I hope it doesn't tarnish anyone on Lindsey. He really DOES love his fans...trust me. :)

I know what you mean about bad mood in seattle. He was the same way in portland just kind of strange.i mentioned something about it to my wife but she said I read into things.But I'm glad he stayed and I was able to get a pic.

I'm not saying what happened to you was acceptable, but you have to consider he also couldve been a typical rock and roll star and looked at you and been like "Who the F**K are you, get outta my face."

She's a moron. If you're going to marry a musician with lots of dedicated fans, there's going to be people who will want to meet your husband. If she doesn't want that, maybe she shouldn't have married him.

Whoa!! Hold the phone!! I respond nicely to your post and then this is what I get back??

First... Lindsey is NOT your typical rock star. If he was he wouldn't be playing Royce Hall a place that holds 1800 people and the tickets were on sale for $5.00 at GoldStar.com. Even with that ticket price the place was NOT full.

Second... His actions basically did say "Who the F**K are you, get outta my face." It was not cool. Maybe Lindsey saves his manners for Fleetwood Mac shows.

Third... Why would you respond so harshly to my response back to you??

I have to say I agree with this assessment of K based on some of the stories I have heard since 2003.

LB usually is way nice to the fans solo or otherwise. So, I am blamimng her, esp. with her "not tonight" outburst. Maybe she did not want to field any questions about the "artistic" photo on the cover of the new record :rolleyes:

I USED to enjoy meeting musicians, but after seeing many treat their fans (Not specifically LB - Never bothered to seek an autograph from LB) as if they are a nuisance instead of realizing that the said FANS paid for their 'lavished lifestyles', I quit caring to meet 'em.

That's pretty funny! Hey, Warner Bros. already told Lindsey it looked like a mug shot. So, I guess she has had just a little bit of feedback.

Michele

She photographed the cover? Interesting I did not check the liner notes as carefully as I thought.

Royce Brush Off!
 

Gawd Lindsey sure can pick 'em! :laugh: Maybe there's "Trouble in Shangra-La"? Ten years and three kids could very well do it. What's she going to do when he does a full-blown FWM tour? Drag the kids from coast to coast to make sure Lindsey stays in line. Lawdy,lawdy!:laugh: Where'd he find this woman anyway?:confused:

Carol-Lynn

It just says photography by Kristen Buckingham. So, I have to assume that means all the photos in the whole thing.

Before I read that, I thought Lindsey had taken the picture himself. I thought that accounted for the strange camera angles, if he was just positioning the camera in front of him and clicking it remotely.

Michele

Pretty much, yeah... stiletto boots and all, as was SOP in '03-'04 (http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.ph..._v2&id=455&c=9) At least for the cosmopolitan stops on the tour, that is (I doubt Kristen does Grand Rapids, if you know what I mean).

You don't want to know.

I met Lindsey in 2006 and he was an absolute sweetheart, could not have been kinder and more accommodating. It was freaking cold that night as well. Kristen wasn't there either...

I do think Lindsey is generally a moody man, though. I've read a few encounters, one from a book written by some groupie, where she met Lindsey with Kristen (possibly in '97) and he was apparently not nice and K was even worse, full-fledged eye-rolling, loud sighing, and even stomping. That's interesting.

I've seen her as well and she seems, from when I saw her, lovely. But I don't think it's cool if she's actually scoffing at fans. To be honest with herself, much of the comfort of her lifestyle is provided to her by a man who has made his money from these people, so respect, or some patience, is due.

But if the kids were with them...I might have to reconsider. I'm apt to be more understanding of parents with their kids and being protective and whatnot. Then again, 15 people...yeah, that wasn't cool.

Oh well. Maybe she's intimidated. She shouldn't worry about me. I think her husband is incredible but there's only one man in my life and even Lindsey can't compare. Sorry.:nod:

Wow.
Try not to take it so personally. Lindsey is just a person you really do not know and he has good days and bad days. I'm sure he's real exhausted after a show, especially at his age.

Honestly, his wife may have been the one chosen to be "the bad guy" and to get him out of things he might not want to do.

Just cause you support him doesn't mean you control him and expect him to be a certain way, you're there for the music anyway.

I believe you. Like I said, he is moody with a capital M. I'd assume that since he's old-and-mellowed now, he was a PISTOL when he was younger. Like male-PMS and then some. I saw him NY when he smashed his guitar and I had very good seats and it was very much NOT in jest. That man was raging.

...I got to say I loved it though. He was hot when he was mad...

I agree with this. I generally don't expect anything from artists except their music. Meeting them is a bonus. Even though she has had several bad encounters, I still hold nothing against Mrs. Buckingham. Probably because she's a quieter type and seems like she's made Lindsey so happy. If she was loud-mouthed stark-raving mad wife shouting and cussing fans out I'd just think she was pathetic, but as is she's done nothing personal to me. And I think Love Runs Deeper is extraordinary.

If she did not and he paid someone else, no wonder she's a beeyotch :laugh:

Like DavidMN - He has always been nice when I have met him....REALLY nice. Like, I was shocked he cared about his fans so much kind of nice.

I guess everyone has different experiences.

I have never had a bad run in with Kristen either. When I saw her, she was always nice UNLESS someone was trying to talk to their kids or something. She's seems like a normal protective mother.

I'm glad you had a great experience. The point of this thread was only to relate my bad experience and to get some insight as to if this was normal or not. Thanks.

Then I guess by my account and a few others who added their good experience, it's not necessarily normal. We were just trying to add our two cents to help. Thanks. :wavey:

I met her once a long time ago at the Soundstage thingee and she was very, very nice to me. But, others have had horror stories.

You all need to pull your heads in! the man doesn't need to say hi to everyone after the show, i have seen him 10 times and i am yet to meet him but i don't go waiting after each show expecting to.

totally...i'm almost embarrassed for the complainers in this thread...do you people KNOW how ridiculous you sound?

'screwed'? uh, not really...you would've been screwed if the show was cancelled an hour before it was scheduled to start and you wasted a trip to the venue...not getting an autograph may be disappointing, but you were never promised one in the first place...

you think buying someone's album entitles you to something other than the music? grow up...if someone is expected to warmly greet everyone who purchases their music, why even put the music out at all? if i bought two copies of the album, does that mean i deserve two encounters? how many shows do i need to attend to earn an invitation to dinner with the buckinghams?

oh, and by the way, lindsey's "mansion" was paid for with HIS hard-earned money, not "donations" from "fans"...

Hey Dummy! "Screwed" was a play on words because of the new album titled "Gift Of Screws"

Had the show been cancelled I would have only been out $5.00 since Mr. Buckingham's tickets were not selling.

Also... I did not expect an autograph just hopeful that it might happen. The point of this thread was to explain what my experience was not to trash the artist.

The bottom line is... if you have two fans in wheelchairs then at least make an effort to greet them don't shuffle off to your car like Woody Allen just because your wife yells at you.

Lindsey's actions toward those two fans was not very nice. Don't say from stage how excited you are to be in your hometown and then treat 12 hometown fans like crap.

One more thing... explain to me how Lindsey could have "hard earned money" without fans? That I would love to hear.

you Paid $5 freaking dollars for your ticket! and your complaining, is there a reason why you have never posted before? i have flown from Australia for these concerts and i will not be pissed at Lindsey if i dont meet him or if his WIFE wants to go home and put her 2 children under the age of 11 to bed at a time that she feels suitable. On the ticket stub it states Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws tour" not Lindsey Buckingham "Gift of Screws Tour and Meet and greet With fans and the disabled outside afterwards" Grow up man:distress:

You are right. If you get to meet Lindsey, it's a bonus. I got lucky and things just lined up perfectly when I met him. He was very gracious.

Lindsey's got a family now, so you can't expect him to be hanging around too much.

I do think that if you approached Lindsey and had something for him to sign he would sign it. He signed a photo from the stage for me in jacksonville in 2004 because I asked him. Very cool about it.

Maybe I am in the minority, but when the show is over and done, a performer has put in his time. Everything else is completely optional and a perk to any fan's experience, not something they should expect. If Lindsey had to do press, soundcheck/rehearse, warm-up, then put on a full set, he had been working for quite a few hours at that point and probably just wanted to go home. Especially if it was his hometown show, maybe he was meeting up with some of his relatives afterwards and didn't want to keep THEM waiting. Yes, it's nice to generally be polite to people, especially the ones who support you and buy your albums, but once you do for one, it's hard not to do for all and it's very possible he was trying to avoid the situation as a whole. I can't fault the man, or any performer, for that.