Mirage Tour: Set-List Question
 

According to the "History" section here at fleetwoodmac.net:

The highlights were released on videocassette in 1984 as Fleetwood Mac In Concert: Mirage Tour 1982. It's a straight performance piece, with thirteen (of the twenty-two tracks typically performed) full-length songs, in contrast to the previous official video release.

What were the other 9 tracks typically performed?

They did Hold Me on that tour but it was never put to film so there is one of the nine.

Second Hand News was also in the set list

Second Hand News
Dreams
Don't Stop- IMO Mirage tour Don't Stops were the best ever
Landslide
Brown Eyes
Sara
Hold Me
Oh Well
Never Going Back Again

I think thats all of them. Corect me if Im wrong.

BINGO!!!
:nod:

You're right & you know it.

At one show, Fleetwood Mac played LEATHER & LACE. That's the only exception.

(When Fleetwood rehearsed for the 1982 tour, they also played WISH YOU WERE HERE, STRAIGHT BACK, & TROUBLE.)

WOW! Intense!

Thank you for the info!!

have you heard any of these?

I had no idea they rehearsed trouble I would definitley like to hear that.

But don't let anyone fool you into thinking that the Mirage video was filmed at only one show...it's a editor's nightmare of combining footage & audio from two shows from consecutive nights.

(was in audience for both)

One night was all "lovey-dovey" ness between band members...one night they looked as if they wanted each other dead. So, remember that when you watch the video again...right in the middle of songs ("Blue Letter" is the most obviously one), they'll go from "isn't this fun?" to "I'm going to kill you once we're off stage"...two different performances spliced together.

Hey Chili,

Surely they filmed MORE of the songs than what appears on the VHS/LaserDisc...right?

If anyone has these... could you please post...

For you, brown, because you rawk!

TROUBLE
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0juakb

WISH YOU WERE HERE
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7itbxd

You woke up my curiousity. IS there any video on youtube or source that we can watch it??

thank you thank you thank you!!! downloaded them this evening...

The 1982 Setlist...I think!
 

I think it went something like this in most shows....my order may be screwed up somewhere but it's pretty close.

1. Second Hand News
2. The Chain
3. Don't Stop
4. Dreams
5. Oh Well
6. Rhiannon
7. Brown Eyes
8. Eyes of the World
9. Gypsy
10. Love in Store
11. Never Going Back Again
12. Landslide
13. Not That Funny
14. Tusk
15. Sara
16. Hold Me
17. You Make Loving Fun
18. I'm So Afraid
19. Go Your Own Way
20. Blue Letter
21. Sisters of the Moon
22. Songbird

I love this video but it does have some very bad edits. I had both versions
of this, one on VHS the other on Laser Disc. The more expensive Laser Disc
version looked and sounded better (different mix?), but had less songs than
the VHS version! :distress:

Christine didn't sing any of her hits from the White Album. She sang her best song from Tusk, except you would have thought if she was gonna pick a song from Tusk it would have been her hit single Think About Me. She sang three of her Rumours songs and two of her Mirage songs.

You would think for the rediculous price they charged for those things that they would have more goodies than a video had to offer. Instead you got less. How unfair.

For these types of releases/broadcasts, the entire show is filmed/taped. Then they go back and edit and decide what songs are in and others get left on the "cutting room floor."

Therefore, the entire 2 nights of these LA Mirage shows exist in some vault somewhere, as well as the 2 nights of St Louis 1979 Tusk shows...and so on...

There was a similar problem with the two releases -- VHS & laser disc -- of the Christine McVie concert. Slightly different track lists: one with a few more live tracks & the other with the concept videos in place of the live tracks. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Yep.

And, somewhere in some vault is the entire UC Santa Barbara show from May 1976...of which only "I'm So Afraid" & "Over My Head" (and bits of "World Turning") are seen in the Rosebud promo video. I'd love to see THAT entire show released someday. They did a KILLER version of Danny's "Sunny Side Of Heaven" to open their set---and, to add to the "vibe", just coincidentally, a 737 was taking off from Santa Barbara airport and was over head in the near background (with the Santa Barbara Mountains in the far background) of a blue sky just as the song started. The timing of the jet's takeoff couldn't have been more coordinated with the song if they'd actually planned it.

i'm doing the bow on the live album.... i listened to them last nite!

That's interesting that they would splice right in the middle of a song. I wish I had this video so I could watch and catch that.:nod:

Ive always thought this tour was the mac at its performing finest. Its so disappointing that the entire show has never been released in stellar quality. no doubt it would sell, especially if people knew the quality of the performances. especially with a tour in 2009, and a new album coming out, it might be good to do what Lindsey did with Live at Bass Performance Hall and release this show with better edits, in full length. Get the non-ledgies pumped!

I guess I can dream right???

Ahhhhh...the cutting room floor stuff.....I wish we could get to see some of that stuff. Can you see the drool running down my chin just thinking about it?!

It's hard for me to decide, but I think I prefer the high points of the previous tour to the high points of this tour. I do actually believe the band was tighter, more together, in the latter months of Tusk, but things were humming at this point, too -- no getting around it. Chris McVie was on top of the game on boards (she's virtually indistinguishable from the previous tour to this one), but Mick had a more metronomic wallop for Tusk, & Lindsey I think is really where the greatest discrepancy lies.

I was always disappointed that the shows planned for filming weren't the best performances -- but then it's almost impossible to know beforehand just when you're going to rise to the occasion. If only (with 20/20 hindsight) they had filmed Detroit on Sept. 19 or Irvine on Oct. 18 -- shows in which everything clicked so beautifully: band, audience, pacing, &c.

They don't levy taxes on dreams ... yet. ;)

Well, if I recall, those two nights at the GW Forum were make up shows for earlier postponements due to Stevie's health/voice.

Yes, Lindsey's guitar tone was more generic & unpleasant during the Mirage tour...almost as if he was using some sort of solid state distortion device (giving his tone a real "buzzy" sound) rather than the warmer overdriven tones of a good British tube (valve) amp, that he'd been using on earlier tours. I'd agree with David that those final days of the Tusk tour were probably some of the "higher" points of the bands' performances. Although, I don't think they ever sounded better (read: tighter & more dynamic) than they did during the mid-summer of 1977.

Hi chiliD: What a total shame that the 'full' Mirage concert isn't released on DVD yet...total shame. Same for the full 'Tusk' concert....or the Tusk Doc..still not released on DVD with extras....Same for HBO special for Stevie...this should be the complete concerts as well.....with extras too....I don't understand what they are waiting for?? Makes totally no sense to me period. Same with all of FMac's videos should be released on a compliation as well.....Don't they realize what an opportunity they have...same with re-issue cds of 'Live'/Mirage/Tango/Mask with extras?? Makes no sense really to me.....I'll have to really watch that video again sometime....I did always notice how when Stevie sang SOTM at the end...during the band sort of solo...it gets cut short...when Stevie is dancing in front of Mick with the cow bell....it just ends up cutting right to the Mic and Stevie's at it.....it must have been totally awesome...what a waste.....how sad.....
Someone mentioned the Detroit show....wow I'd have loved to seen that...other than having the sound board recording....that would've been like awesome to have had it on video......:shrug::thumbsup:

I agree with you and I'm sure all the other members of this board feel the same way. As far as "what are they waiting for?", I think they're waiting on all of us to get too old to care. :mad:

But it's the same with many other artist, Elvis Presley for example. His last two movies were concert documentaries, "That's The Way It Is (1970)" and "Elvis On Tour (1972)". There is more on the "cutting room floor" from these movies than has been released to date. The Elvis boards on the net are full of complaints about this footage not being released.

BTW, I think my laserdisc version of Mirage had "Rhiannon" edited out... what tha..!?!?!?

I recall seeing bits of "Rhiannon" from the same show in VH1's Behind the Music...so, if that was dug up specifically for that program then someone has immediate access to it. I bet Mick has copies all of this stuff somewhere in his attic.

It isn't just video (or film) that's languishing (& probably disintegrating or missing). It's audio, too. I mean, where is the Oakland Coliseum concert taped Oct. 4, 1983?! The stupid decision was made to broadcast only three songs from that taping (only one of which was truly live), & the rest of the concert has never surfaced & probably never will.

I would kill one of you -- I really do mean kill one of you -- for that wonderful Wild Heart concert at the height of Stevie's Turandot phase.

http://www.claudiawaite.com/gallery_...randot-400.jpg

Unfortunately (or Fortunately?), this stuff will probably surface after they die

:shrug: (Using the "shrug" emoticon although it looks like he's doing military presses.)

Well, ok, but how many have to die? All 5? Or if one or two of them drop dead will that be enough to get WB to start opening up the vaults?



Michele

Sometimes, The Vaults open a smidge -- just enough to let a few things escape but no more. It's probably inadvertent most of the time.

We fans got five or six soundboard recordings of songs on Stevie's Australian leg of the 1986 tour -- I Need to Know, I Can't Wait, Talk to Me, Outside the Rain, Dreams. They were on one or two of those reels in storage. Same goes for limited leaks from Fleetwood Mac concerts: GO YOUR OWN WAY, SISTERS OF THE MOON & SONGBIRD from Atlanta 1980; HOLD ME from Baton Rouge 1982; HOLD ME & SARA from MEADOWLANDS 1982.

But we want the rest. Wouldn't it stand to reason that the rest would be somewhere in the vicinity of the leaked recordings?

Are The Vaults literal vaults or merely figurative vaults?

I agree with you as well...its a shame if thats what 'they' are waiting for....funny with some of the 'stuff' thats not happening thats turning me off more as a fan right now....than say what supposedly 'is' gonna happen......Of course they will do what they want......which is there right....but if your out to make some $$ than why wait......Makes like no sense to me....of course probably what we'd love to have released won't be.....same with the music....solo and band wise....what a total shame...really 'they' all lose in the end...as do we as fans.....how sad really...............................IMO that is...............................:distress::confused:

The thing thats really great about the Mirage Video, is what they chose to include. Imagine if they decided to put Dreams on the video instead of SOTM :EEK! We have a lot of songs preserved on tape that have yet to be played again on future tours. Sisters, Not That Funny, Blue Letter, a very different Eyes of the World then what we'd have captured on tape again in 2003. Most of what's left out we have preserved in other places (SHN, Dreams, Landslide Never Going Back Again)

So while all 22 or at least more then 13 would be ideal, what was included was probably the best selections for us fans they could've made. Again I must restate, What if Dreams Landslide or even Sara were included in place of Sisters of the Moon.

The only reason they played Leather and Lace is because Don Henley made a guest appearance. I'm sure the band was..uhm...thrilled about that!

I've only heard a very scrappy rehearsal of Straight Back. Can you share those other songs? I had no idea they considered those others. I always thought Wish You Were Here should have been the closer for that tour... they could have done a nice long jamming closer. And the never took advantage of featuring a few more solo songs other than Go Insane and Stand Back...and Has Anyone Ever Written (post Lindsey). I think that was a poor choice...not so Fleetwood Mac-ish. But Trouble is very Mac-ish, as are the songs on the Christine McVie album.

I would love to hear FM perform Gotta Hold On Me. Michele

All too true. Christine & Lindsey didn't even bother to learn the chords. They played their own song!

I posted those other two somewhere in this thread (?). The links might be active still.