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David 06-06-2008 06:24 PM

Re-recording DON'T STOP for the Inaugural
 
Remember Christine's saying that the band recorded something or other for the 1993 performance in Landover? She never really specified, & no one else in the band did, either. What do you think she was talking about? I think that their performance was not quite so "live" as it was thought to be, & that the foundation of the sound was what was recorded beforehand.

Look carefully at the video. Is Lindsey, for example, playing all the riffs you hear? There's no cord on his ax. How about John? Christine's piano, too, seems prerecorded.

What of the vocals? A mix of live & Memorex, is my guess.

mylittledemon 06-06-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 758273)
Remember Christine's saying that the band recorded something or other for the 1993 performance in Landover? She never really specified, & no one else in the band did, either. What do you think she was talking about? I think that their performance was not quite so "live" as it was thought to be, & that the foundation of the sound was what was recorded beforehand.

Look carefully at the video. Is Lindsey, for example, playing all the riffs you hear? There's no cord on his ax. How about John? Christine's piano, too, seems prerecorded.

What of the vocals? A mix of live & Memorex, is my guess.

what video are you talkin about?

MacMan 06-06-2008 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 758273)
Remember Christine's saying that the band recorded something or other for the 1993 performance in Landover? She never really specified, & no one else in the band did, either. What do you think she was talking about? I think that their performance was not quite so "live" as it was thought to be, & that the foundation of the sound was what was recorded beforehand.

Look carefully at the video. Is Lindsey, for example, playing all the riffs you hear? There's no cord on his ax. How about John? Christine's piano, too, seems prerecorded.

What of the vocals? A mix of live & Memorex, is my guess.

I agree about the playing live stuff... Lindsey was the most obvious, it didn't look like he was playing at all. Stevie said her tambo had been taped down too.

I do remember hearing something about them re-recording Don't Stop, but I always assumed it never happened, cause the single they re-released was of the old track wasn't it? Maybe you're right about them pre-recording the live stuff.

strandinthewind 06-06-2008 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MacMan (Post 758299)
I agree about the playing live stuff... Lindsey was the most obvious, it didn't look like he was playing at all. Stevie said her tambo had been taped down too.

I do remember hearing something about them re-recording Don't Stop, but I always assumed it never happened, cause the single they re-released was of the old track wasn't it? Maybe you're right about them pre-recording the live stuff.

I agree. However, they did not sound that good. You'd think if it was recorded, they would have made it sound good.



Also, La Nicks said in 94 on Letterman that she was trying to sing when trying to say she was "really sorry Bill" after handing Pres. Clinton the deadened tambo.

David 06-06-2008 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 758311)
I agree. However, they did not sound that good. You'd think if it was recorded, they would have made it sound good.

Also, La Nicks said in 94 on Letterman that she was trying to sing when trying to say she was "really sorry Bill" after handing Pres. Clinton the deadened tambo.

I'm referring to the instrumental. I think that's largely what was prerecorded. The vocals seem mostly live right there on the stage.

I'm still trying to figure out who is actually playing what on the stage vs. who is "air-guitaring" it. I really think Chris, for example, is not playing what I hear of the piano (or the phat pad, for that matter). In addition, what I hear of the piano in the sound field doesn't sound like a live mix; it sounds like a studio mix. She's only moving her fingers atop a dead board. One proof: You hear a glissando at around 2:30 but Chris isn't shown playing one.

But what are Lindsey & John doing? No cords are visible. That probably means something. But I need you guitarists to look closely.

gldstwmn 06-06-2008 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 758311)
I agree. However, they did not sound that good. You'd think if it was recorded, they would have made it sound good.



My thoughts exactly.

Peestie 06-06-2008 10:01 PM

I think Lindsey is miming it as well. I think his guitar tone sounds too "studio" and there are points where, to me, he doesn't look quite like he's playing what we're hearing. I think it's safe to say that if Christine was playing to a backing track then so was Lindsey. If he is playing it live then it's one of his cleaner versions of that song other than on The Dance.

I think the vocals are all live or else they'd have got them better sounding than that.

SteveMacD 06-07-2008 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 758273)
Look carefully at the video. Is Lindsey, for example, playing all the riffs you hear? There's no cord on his ax. How about John? Christine's piano, too, seems prerecorded.

What of the vocals? A mix of live & Memorex, is my guess.

I see a cord on the Turner, down by the knobs. Look after the first chorus. Mick's clearly live. They never really focus on John. The vocals are too terrible to not be live. As for "other" instrumentation, I wouldn't be shocked if there was another keyboardist playing under that platform. It could be Memorex, but it's just too...not good, IMO.

macfan 57 06-07-2008 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 758312)
I'm referring to the instrumental. I think that's largely what was prerecorded. The vocals seem mostly live right there on the stage.

I believe this is true. There is even a Dance-era interview around where John admitted that the inaugural "Don't Stop" wasn't really live.

strandinthewind 06-07-2008 06:46 AM

I know they used tracks for SYW and for LB's Soundstage. I met the guys who were pushing the buttons to make them play. So, I am sure they had tracks for DS. I wonder why they did that though. It is not as if they could not, as CM said play that song "with one hand tied behind her back." It is all very strange.

Villavic 06-07-2008 06:55 PM

FLEETWOOD MAC and MICHAEL JACKSON
 
I don't know if it was recorded but Christine looks BEAUTIFUL. It's the first time I see this video complete.
But what the hell MJ was doing there?? I used to like him, but in 1993 he was becoming the freak he is now. And joining him with Fleetwood Mac. humm. no no!
I can see Little Richard and Warren Beatty too. Sure there were more celebrities.

But Michael Jackson singing with Fleetwood Mac?? NOOOOO

will26 06-07-2008 07:34 PM

The vocals are definitely live. Lindsay looks like he is playing air guitar. You can barely see John.

I guess for me the big question is why. Most people lip synch and play the instruments live not the other way around.

mylittledemon 06-07-2008 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 758311)
I agree. However, they did not sound that good. You'd think if it was recorded, they would have made it sound good.



Also, La Nicks said in 94 on Letterman that she was trying to sing when trying to say she was "really sorry Bill" after handing Pres. Clinton the deadened tambo.

Lindsey IS amp-ed up...that was back when his old Turners had the output jack on the front near the volume/tone knobs. I can make it out clearly in the video more than once.

iamnotafraid 06-08-2008 02:21 AM

I recorded this live, and watching it made me sick deep down inside. This is Stevie at her worst. I got the news paper the next day because the Mac was on the front cover. Even though I'd seen her on TV the night before, I couldn't believe how bad she looked in the photo. I'm so glad she turned her life around.

strandinthewind 06-08-2008 03:10 AM

AND - despite the sleeves, she is not that fat. In fact, she was fatter on the SYW tour :shrug:

iamnotafraid 06-08-2008 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 758473)
AND - despite the sleeves, she is not that fat. In fact, she was fatter on the SYW tour :shrug:

Do you really think she was heavier on the SYW tour? I saw them on this tour and would not have guessed that she was heavier.

SteveMacD 06-08-2008 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 758423)
I don't know if it was recorded but Christine looks BEAUTIFUL. It's the first time I see this video complete.
But what the hell MJ was doing there?? I used to like him, but in 1993 he was becoming the freak he is now. And joining him with Fleetwood Mac. humm. no no!
I can see Little Richard and Warren Beatty too. Sure there were more celebrities.

But Michael Jackson singing with Fleetwood Mac?? NOOOOO

They were the last band playing that night, and they had all of the performers and speakers go up on stage. You know Jacko can't stay out of the spotlight if there's one there.

ontheEdgeof17 06-08-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 758584)
You know Jacko can't stay out of the spotlight if there's one there.

...maybe that's why his face melted.:shrug:

joe 06-09-2008 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 758473)
AND - despite the sleeves, she is not that fat. In fact, she was fatter on the SYW tour :shrug:

ummm...yeah, no....i seriously doubt that.

strandinthewind 06-09-2008 08:24 AM



She is large in this video and larger than the Pres. thingee :shrug:

There was an interview with her around the time of the Glod Dust tour where she talks about losing like 50 pounds after the SYW tour.

I love her, but facts is facts :shrug:

strandinthewind 06-09-2008 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 758477)
Do you really think she was heavier on the SYW tour? I saw them on this tour and would not have guessed that she was heavier.

I think she gains weight as the tour progresses, at least it seemed that way to me.

Betsy 06-10-2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 758312)
I'm referring to the instrumental. I think that's largely what was prerecorded. The vocals seem mostly live right there on the stage.

I'm still trying to figure out who is actually playing what on the stage vs. who is "air-guitaring" it. I really think Chris, for example, is not playing what I hear of the piano (or the phat pad, for that matter). In addition, what I hear of the piano in the sound field doesn't sound like a live mix; it sounds like a studio mix. She's only moving her fingers atop a dead board. One proof: You hear a glissando at around 2:30 but Chris isn't shown playing one.

But what are Lindsey & John doing? No cords are visible. That probably means something. But I need you guitarists to look closely
.

I'm wondering -- Where did that horn player ~ magically ~ come from?

vivfox 06-10-2008 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy (Post 758836)
I'm wondering -- Where did that horn player ~ magically ~ come from?

And I'm wondering where you magically came from? Where the heck have you been???

David 06-11-2008 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Betsy (Post 758836)
I'm wondering -- Where did that horn player ~ magically ~ come from?

Horn player?

Betsy 06-11-2008 04:00 PM

Hi Mark -- I caught the Dancing with the Stars Reunion Special. (Ms Fox looked mahvelous and much better than I do.)
Thanks for missing me. It did my heart good to think someone cares.

David --

Check out 3:39 mark in that video, during the singing of the chorus, a horn magically appears on the right hand side of the screen. It comes back again briefly at 4:00...and then is seen next to Little Richard.

My favorite part is 1:44 when the Bedouin tribe decides to slowly stand up, but the woman on the right begins dancing. (Score one for the sisterhood!)

michelej1 06-14-2008 11:58 PM

[It has nothing to do with whether it was live or Memorex, but I thought I'd put this here anyway]

Reuters News, January 15, 1993 Friday


HEADLINE: Fleetwood Mac gears up for reunion at Clinton inaugural.

BYLINE: By Dean Goodman

BODY:


HOLLYWOOD, California, Jan 14, Reuter - Members of the rock band Fleetwood Mac, survivors of the 1970s "sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll" era, said on Thursday they felt honoured to be invited to play the most respectable of gigs -- Bill Clinton's inaugural gala.

Performing together for the first time since 1982, the once-popular Anglo-American band will play their hit song "Don't Stop (Thinking About Tomorrow)", which was adopted as the unofficial theme song of Clinton's presidential campaign.

Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie will team up for a January 19 reunion performance in the nation's capital with the band's co-founders, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie, who own the rights to the name Fleetwood Mac.

This lineup was the most successful in the band's turbulent 25-year history, having recorded the multimillion-selling album "Rumours" in 1977, featuring "Don't Stop" and several other Top 10 hits.

But the band was as well-known for its infighting and fractured relationships as for the easy-listening rhythms that won it millions of fans worldwide.

They say they see no irony in playing for a president-elect who admits he tried marijuana but swears he never inhaled.

"I've never beaten around the bush, as it were, with behavioural patterns in the past," Mick Fleetwood said at a news conference attended by both McVies and Buckingham. "I certainly don't hide my wears and tears."

"I don't feel used at all. The event itself is a nice way of saying good luck, get on with it and put some spirit behind it," said Fleetwood, whose recent autobiography chronicles his band's private excesses.

Fleetwood Mac has never been known for political statements, and don't plan to start with their inaugural performance. "I don't think we ever preached," said John McVie.

Only Buckingham said he voted for Clinton. British nationals Fleetwood and Christine McVie, who wrote "Don't Stop" about her then-husband John, supported Clinton but were not eligible to vote. John McVie, who is a naturalised U.S. citizen, declined to say who he voted for.

iamnotafraid 06-15-2008 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 759421)
[It has nothing to do with whether it was live or Memorex, but I thought I'd put this here anyway]

Fleetwood Mac has never been known for political statements, and don't plan to start with their inaugural performance. "I don't think we ever preached," said John McVie.

Only Buckingham said he voted for Clinton. British nationals Fleetwood and Christine McVie, who wrote "Don't Stop" about her then-husband John, supported Clinton but were not eligible to vote. John McVie, who is a naturalised U.S. citizen, declined to say who he voted for.

At first it was reported that FL MAC wanted Clinton to stop using their song, but after he won the election it was "OK" to use it. Don't know whether it's true or not but I read the John was a Republican, so I doubt he would have voted for Clinton. As for Stevie, she said she wouldn't vote for Clinton (second term) while being interviewed by David Letterman.

David 06-15-2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Betsy (Post 758907)
Check out 3:39 mark in that video, during the singing of the chorus, a horn magically appears on the right hand side of the screen. It comes back again briefly at 4:00...and then is seen next to Little Richard.

Ah, that. That's a guy from one of the acts that performed earlier in the evening. He didn't bring his horn out specifically for "Don't Stop."

michelej1 06-15-2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 759439)
At first it was reported that FL MAC wanted Clinton to stop using their song, but after he won the election it was "OK" to use it. Don't know whether it's true or not but I read the John was a Republican, so I doubt he would have voted for Clinton. As for Stevie, she said she wouldn't vote for Clinton (second term) while being interviewed by David Letterman.

Even during the SYW tour someone said they teased John by putting a Democratic bumper sticker on his luggage, because he was a Republican.

Michele


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