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face of glass 04-07-2008 02:28 PM

Bass Performance Hall vs Soundstage
 
So which is it? Or do you think that when one considers his total solo output, releasing the other one so soon was a bit superfluous?

As for me, gotta take a couple of more viewings of both...

Lori40 04-07-2008 02:35 PM

I really like UTS, and the songs are even better live than on the original disc, so I prefer Bass Performance Hall.

michelej1 04-07-2008 02:47 PM

I have to go with Bass Hall, just for the documentary part. I would have voted for Soundstage if it had had more extras, like the different takes of songs and the comments made between takes.

Michele

Peestie 04-07-2008 03:03 PM

Bass Performance Hall for me. There are more songs, a better selection (although I wish Red Rover had made the DVD) and there's no Stevie Nicks. I think Lindsey's performance is slightly better on the Bass DVD but judging from both of these, from a vocals standpoint, I'd not care if he dropped GYOW.

shackin'up 04-07-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Peestie (Post 749794)
Bass Performance Hall for me. There are more songs, a better selection (although I wish Red Rover had made the DVD) and there's no Stevie Nicks. I think Lindsey's performance is slightly better on the Bass DVD but judging from both of these, from a vocals standpoint, I'd not care if he dropped GYOW.

Every word of this is mine. Although his fiery guitarwork on Bass's GYOW is stunning. He only could have better used some vocal pretrack and shut his mouth on this one. Incredible, because the rest of the vocals are OK in a big way.

Betsy 04-07-2008 03:33 PM

Bass had a better audience.

Soundstage's audience was too subdued...

Peestie 04-07-2008 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 749802)
Every word of this is mine. Although his fiery guitarwork on Bass's GYOW is stunning. He only could have better used some vocal pretrack and shut his mouth on this one. Incredible, because the rest of the vocals are OK in a big way.

Oh I agree about the solo. The solo in that one is great. It's a piece of glorious noise :thumbsup: That's the only reason I see for keeping that song in the setlist aside from it being the big hit. And I will admit that the solo is a damn good reason to keep it there as it's only a little disappointing vocally.

mylittledemon 04-07-2008 05:31 PM

Soundstage. Down on Rodeo was on there...i loved the way he did it there. I loved "Murrow" too. I like Trouble better on that DVD. Of course..."So Afraid" on Bass Hall was superb.

shackin'up 04-07-2008 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Peestie (Post 749826)
as it's only a little disappointing vocally.

As a big fan, I have to say: you're too kind for him. That vocal is embarrassing. But the freaking guitarindustry makes me wanting to rip my ears off. It's so f*cking awesome that I play it over and over again against all odds: how can you play a song so bad and so extatic at the same time? The man NEVER lets me be 100% dissapointed. It's annoying.

Peestie 04-07-2008 08:03 PM

Sorry, I think I worded that badly. When I said it's on "only a little disappointing vocally" what I really meant is that "the only way this version is a little disappointing is because of the vocals" not that the vocals are just a little disappointing because, let's face it, they're far from the greatest but they're not so bad that I can't live with them. Then again, if I didn't like the solo so much I would probably never listen to this version, just like I don't listen to the Soundstage version ever.

I have to add that I adore this version of UTS. I think I like it more than the album version because there's just something extra to it IMO. I think maybe it sounds more dynamic. Maybe that's from Brett coming in with an extra guitar in the chorus, but presumable there's something similar going on in the studio version so I don't know. Maybe it's just the performance.
It's also nice to have this slower, more tender version of SUD. It's not as good as the Philadelphia bootleg, which is more upbeat and he'd been playing it longer so was more sure of himself with it, but it's nice to have it performed slightly differently for variety.

DavidMn 04-07-2008 09:46 PM

I couldnt pick one. I liked both equally.:)

wondergirl9847 04-07-2008 11:02 PM

I'm biased as I was at the Bass Hall concert. Heh. I LOVE Soundstage for I Am Waiting, Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind and Down on Rodeo.

I've never cared much for GYOW live except for the fact that he lets people touch the guitar and stuff. LOL I prefer it on Rumours, kinda like Dreams...those are just perfection on the album. I have to admit that GYOW gets the dead to come to life in concert though. :laugh: I prefer my dark ISA. :)

shackin'up 04-08-2008 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Peestie (Post 749863)
I have to add that I adore this version of UTS. I think I like it more than the album version because there's just something extra to it IMO. I think maybe it sounds more dynamic. Maybe that's from Brett coming in with an extra guitar in the chorus, but presumable there's something similar going on in the studio version so I don't know. Maybe it's just the performance.
It's also nice to have this slower, more tender version of SUD. It's not as good as the Philadelphia bootleg, which is more upbeat and he'd been playing it longer so was more sure of himself with it, but it's nice to have it performed slightly differently for variety.

These are my faves after the KILLING versions of ISA and IKINW. UTS is just slightly less robotic, although I love the albumcut too. That song just shines, it's so atmospheric, and I don't know how to say it, but it is made of glass, even in the liveversion. Very impressive. I like the Liddy In Philly-bootleg more OVERALL. SUD is fantastic, studio AND live, and that's a very big achievement because they differ so much. Also here: that bootleg rules.

Peestie 04-08-2008 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wondergirl9847 (Post 749906)
I'm biased as I was at the Bass Hall concert. Heh. I LOVE Soundstage for I Am Waiting, Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind and Down on Rodeo.

I love all the UTS songs live so I'm so glad we have them, no matter what DVD it's on.

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 749917)
These are my faves after the KILLING versions of ISA and IKINW. Very impressive.

Oh yeah, they're awesome. My favourite part in the solo is where he just stops playing and you can hear the thud of his hand on the neck of the guitar as he beats it! I'm not as keen on how he looks when he's hitting it with two hands, but nobody ever said he looked cool :lol:

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 749917)
UTS is just slightly less robotic, although I love the albumcut too. That song just shines, it's so atmospheric, and I don't know how to say it, but it is made of glass, even in the liveversion.

Yes! That's exactly it but I couldn't find the words for it! Slightly robotic, but still great. I was thinking of how to describe the studio version just there now on my walk back from work and I kept thinking "shimmering" but "made of glass" is so much better.

TrueFaith77 04-08-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peestie (Post 749964)
Yes! That's exactly it but I couldn't find the words for it! Slightly robotic, but still great. I was thinking of how to describe the studio version just there now on my walk back from work and I kept thinking "shimmering" but "made of glass" is so much better.

Yes. "Love Minus Zero" -- that's "shimmering"!

henryscutter 04-14-2008 11:26 PM

def Soundstage. His vocals on the Bass dvd :shocked: were a bit painful. Last time I watched it my husband asked me what was being tortured and killed in there:rolleyes: I can get people to watch SS with me but not Bass, they cant get past his voice to appreciate the songs or guitar playing. Oh well

wondergirl9847 04-16-2008 06:59 PM

Prepare to be shocked. :laugh: I prefer Soundstage. *ducks flying china thrown from Ledgie Lindsey*

The reason? Because he sang songs he didn't do on the solo tour. The live version of I Am Waiting is PHENOMENAL. Down on Rodeo is awesome too. Yes, I was at the Bass Hall that night, but there were better concerts that I attended...like Chicago, Austin and Vancouver. Plus, there were concerts I have the mp3s for that I didn't attend that blow my mind. :shocked: Lindsey's concerts are all fun and great, but the crowd kinda ruined it a little for me in Fort Worth. Thanks hometown peeps. :rolleyes: LOL

#1LiddyBuckFan 04-17-2008 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wondergirl9847 (Post 751539)
Prepare to be shocked. :laugh: I prefer Soundstage. *ducks flying china thrown from Ledgie Lindsey*

The reason? Because he sang songs he didn't do on the solo tour. The live version of I Am Waiting is PHENOMENAL. Down on Rodeo is awesome too. Yes, I was at the Bass Hall that night, but there were better concerts that I attended...like Chicago, Austin and Vancouver. Plus, there were concerts I have the mp3s for that I didn't attend that blow my mind. :shocked: Lindsey's concerts are all fun and great, but the crowd kinda ruined it a little for me in Fort Worth. Thanks hometown peeps. :rolleyes: LOL

I would never throw china. :lol: I throw knives. :p No seriously, I understand. I Am Waiting was unbelievable on Soundstage. I think Bass Hall could have competed if he would have left in Turn It On, Save Me A Place, World Turning and Red Rover though.

wondergirl9847 04-17-2008 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by #1LiddyBuckFan (Post 751717)
I think Bass Hall could have competed if he would have left in Turn It On, Save Me A Place, World Turning and Red Rover though.

AMEN! WTH were they thinking not putting those in? After Rockline, I've lost ALL faith in the human race. LOL

#1LiddyBuckFan 04-17-2008 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by wondergirl9847 (Post 751720)
AMEN! WTH were they thinking not putting those in? After Rockline, I've lost ALL faith in the human race. LOL

That was going to be my question if I had gotten through...but alas the whistle question got through instead. Oh, and don't forget the college advising question!

wondergirl9847 04-17-2008 12:11 AM

I'm about to join the circus. Lindsey....would you recommend me doing trapeze work or should I become a clown?

Oh and I love your song, Rumours.

HATE! :mad:

:laugh:

billwebster 04-17-2008 09:59 AM

Releasing two concert recordings with overlap in the song selection in such a short period of time when compared to the rest of his career, makes me think that "Bass Hall" is some kind of a contractual obligation album type of album. But he's a free agent now... :thumbsup:

Phil 04-19-2008 04:13 AM

I prefer Soundstage because a) it includes the best thing that ever happened to him - yes Stevie Nicks and b) it doesn't sound quite as fake as the Bass Hall recording. Plus with this latest release, he revealed himself to be the sell-out he accuses others of being.

Peestie 04-19-2008 07:36 AM

I think that Soundstage is the one that sounds really fake. Bass is the only one that sounds like it is exactly what happened on the night with no overdubs. Sure, he mimes the end of SYH and he's miming to Neal's playing on IWY but that's what he did on all his tours. If Bass was fixed up in the studio at all then why didn't he fix those awful GYOW vocals?

How is he selling out with this release?


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