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Angel69 03-15-2008 05:19 PM

Instead of Sheryl.....
 
what other female would you want to join up with them.

Joni Mitchell (why do I think this would work? imagine the possibilities!!!!)
Chrissie Hynde
Debbie Harry
Patti Smith
Gwenyth Paltrow (I know...I'm crazy...but I like her voice)

and last but not least

CHRISTINE MCVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (again) please please please please pleas please please please please

michelej1 03-15-2008 05:55 PM

Well, I'm not saying that she would go with Fleetwood Mac at all. But I know I like Sarah McLachlan's sound soooo much. And Stevie likes her too. So, she would be my choice. To me, she's not really exciting live, but when I think of her songs, I could so get into Lindsey performing on them. I moan with the possibilities there.

Michele

Angel69 03-15-2008 06:05 PM

I forgot Laurie Anderson

LiamMcConville 03-15-2008 06:34 PM

This woman has always been my dream "replacement":


bucklind17 03-15-2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel69 (Post 746733)
Joni Mitchell (why do I think this would work? imagine the possibilities!!!!)

That's really just making me think of awesome Joni/Lindsey duets of "Big Yellow Taxi"!

David 03-15-2008 08:03 PM

This major talent of the 1970s would make an excellent fit with Fleetwood Mac now.



And look! You even get a Hohner pianet, a clavinet & a Yamaha CP70 thrown in for good measure! :thumbsup:

michelej1 03-15-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 746769)
This major talent of the 1970s would make an excellent fit with Fleetwood Mac now.

And look! You even get a Hohner pianet, a clavinet & a Yamaha CP70 thrown in for good measure! :thumbsup:

But she refuses to join Fleetwood Mac without Daryl Dragon. It's a package deal.

Michele

David 03-15-2008 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 746773)
But she refuses to join Fleetwood Mac without Daryl Dragon. It's a package deal.

Don't you just love the way the audience is cued to applaud when she starts singing -- as if no one recognized that intro (just about the most recognizable intro in pop)? :rolleyes:

jannieC 03-15-2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 746769)
This major talent of the 1970s would make an excellent fit with Fleetwood Mac now.



And look! You even get a Hohner pianet, a clavinet & a Yamaha CP70 thrown in for good measure! :thumbsup:

I don't think I've *ever* been that happy. ;)

aleuzzi 03-15-2008 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jannieC (Post 746784)
I don't think I've *ever* been that happy. ;)

Love his stone face!

Love the back-up singers.

SteveMacD 03-16-2008 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel69 (Post 746733)
what other female would you want to join up with them.

Joni Mitchell (why do I think this would work? imagine the possibilities!!!!)
Chrissie Hynde
Debbie Harry
Patti Smith
Gwenyth Paltrow (I know...I'm crazy...but I like her voice)

and last but not least

CHRISTINE MCVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (again) please please please please pleas please please please please

One problem. Joni and Christine are RETIRED. Both are basically done, save for little things on the side every few years, maybe. Look, there's no way in hell Sheryl Crow would be joining the band if Christine hadn't RETIRED. As for Debbie, Chrissie, and Patti, I don't think any of those would be good fits. They're too CBGBs (for lack of a better term), which is not a bad thing, but it would really be appropriate for Fleetwood Mac's needs. Mick and John are the wheels, Lindsey is the brains, Stevie is the mystique. What is needed is the unabashed pop writer. Christine was bubble gum at it's finest, and Sheryl is pretty darn good bubble gum, too.

Here's something to think about. How would most people feel about Christine being in Fleetwood Mac if all they knew of her was her 1984 album? That was a good album, but it had a feel that was pretty different from Fleetwood Mac. It's not a good representation as to how she sounds with Fleetwood Mac (which is really the whole point of a solo album). I could say the same about Lindsey and Stevie too. I think Sheryl deserves the benefit of the doubt on this.

Gailh 03-16-2008 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel69 (Post 746733)
what other female would you want to join up with them.
CHRISTINE MCVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (again) please please please please pleas please please please please

That would be my choice and yes I know it's never going to happen but I am in denial about it.

If it's not Christine my second choice would be no-one.

Gail

strandinthewind 03-16-2008 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 746807)
That would be my choice and yes I know it's never going to happen but I am in denial about it.

If it's not Christine my second choice would be no-one.

Gail

I am curious - do you see the addition of another female as a conscious or de facto replacement for CM? Or, do you see it as a move in another direction with nothing to do with replacing CM though both play the keyboards and share the same gender?

I think they are not in any way trying to replace or be disrespectful to CM.

I also think the CM fans are having trouble making this distinction.

In the end, FM has always changed members. To me, this is no different.

Tone - respectful :D

Angel69 03-16-2008 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 746769)
This major talent of the 1970s would make an excellent fit with Fleetwood Mac now.

And look! You even get a Hohner pianet, a clavinet & a Yamaha CP70 thrown in for good measure! :thumbsup:



That back-up singer in the blue has to be Toni's sister. They look like identical twins.

Angel69 03-16-2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 746807)
That would be my choice and yes I know it's never going to happen but I am in denial about it.

If it's not Christine my second choice would be no-one.

Gail



Never say never. I miss Christine so much. I have been listening to her music alot these days.

Gailh 03-16-2008 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 746817)
I am curious - do you see the addition of another female as a conscious or de facto replacement for CM? Or, do you see it as a move in another direction with nothing to do with replacing CM though both play the keyboards and share the same gender?

I think they are not in any way trying to replace or be disrespectful to CM.

I also think the CM fans are having trouble making this distinction.

In the end, FM has always changed members. To me, this is no different.

Tone - respectful :D

The problem is definately all inside my head :laugh:

I do see any new female joining FM as a replacement for Christine and I have said I am still in denial about her leaving in the first place!

I know FM has always changed members it's just that since I became a fan in 1973 Mick, John and Christine have always been there. To me, rightly or wrongly, this would be like getting a new bass player or drummer.

Like I said - the problem is all inside my head

Gail

strandinthewind 03-16-2008 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 746828)
The problem is definately all inside my head :laugh: . . . .

There are worse places to be ;)

Chrislit18 03-16-2008 02:34 PM

well, I would just rather have the 4 peice band that was on SYW than have anybody besdies Christine.

But since they dont want to do that, heres a thought-
how about the 4 of them pack it up, and record one...just ONE album with Christine, and dont tour? Id rather a new album anyways :shrug:

Nobody fits the mac mold except Christine.
Well...Bob Welch could work, but I doubt hed want to come back

shackin'up 03-16-2008 03:50 PM

Nina Hagen

darklinensuit 03-16-2008 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 746769)
This major talent of the 1970s would make an excellent fit with Fleetwood Mac now.



And look! You even get a Hohner pianet, a clavinet & a Yamaha CP70 thrown in for good measure! :thumbsup:

And she could help get Fleetwood Mac booked on "The Love Boat".
So while you're at it, I'm sure Charo would love to interpret "Landslide" and could put a nice new twist on the "Rhiannon" dance.:)

- Jake

Betsy 03-16-2008 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrislit18 (Post 746853)

how about the 4 of them pack it up, and record one...just ONE album with Christine, and dont tour? Id rather a new album anyways :shrug:

Nobody fits the mac mold except Christine.
Well...Bob Welch could work, but I doubt hed want to come back

I like that idea....

Would Christine be willing to live in the USA for a year (to record a new album) but not tour?

Didn't Stevie say something on Destiny Rules -- something about what if Chris did do that (record) but didn't tour ..... and her songs became the hits?

Also...I read/heard that Chris moved back to England because the Earthquakes scared her???

I, too, would like to see a MAC with Bob Welch again.

aleuzzi 03-16-2008 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 746860)
Nina Hagen

New York! New YOOOOOOOOOOrk!

aleuzzi 03-16-2008 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 746807)
That would be my choice and yes I know it's never going to happen but I am in denial about it.

If it's not Christine my second choice would be no-one.

Gail

Agreed. Or an entirely new frontline.

michelle2677 03-16-2008 09:22 PM

i'll get flamed, but i would like to see colbie caillat be the replacement for fm.

i think she could do the chris songs and would blend well with stevie and lindsey.

plus...she's and up and coming artist (everyone was bitching in the other thread that sheryl was already a star and they wanted someone who hadn't made it big) and she's ken caillat's daughter to boot!

Chrislit18 03-16-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 746891)
i'll get flamed, but i would like to see colbie caillat be the replacement for fm.

i think she could do the chris songs and would blend well with stevie and lindsey.

plus...she's and up and coming artist (everyone was bitching in the other thread that sheryl was already a star and they wanted someone who hadn't made it big) and she's ken caillat's daughter to boot!

Michelle, I like the way you think!!

I actually wouldnt mind seeing Colbie 'fill in' for Christine.
Im sure she already knows the members of the band...her father being Ken and all.
And she has said that FM is an influence, and she would probably love to play with them.

I think i would like her voice on YMLF...which is the Christine test for me...so yeah Colbie Callait would be good.

Plus she could throw in a couple of her songs as well...esp 'Bubbly'... :D

Gailh 03-17-2008 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Betsy (Post 746874)
I like that idea....

Would Christine be willing to live in the USA for a year (to record a new album) but not tour?

Didn't Stevie say something on Destiny Rules -- something about what if Chris did do that (record) but didn't tour ..... and her songs became the hits?

Also...I read/heard that Chris moved back to England because the Earthquakes scared her???


I doubt if Christine would want to commit to a whole album. I can't imagine her giving up her life in Kent for a year in L.A.

I think the Earthquakes were only one of the reasons she left to come home. Her marriage had just broken up, she was fed up with the rock 'n roll lifestyle and I think she wanted to spend some more time with her brother.

She's pretty much retired now. If the collective will exists for the Rumours lineup to make some more music together then they will find a way. I just don't believe that the will exists.

So if Stevie needs a female friend along to make the tour happen then it looks like Sheryl Crow is it. I'm not sure there'll be room onstage though. 5 band members, 2 backing singers, 3 extra musicians, 1 extra percussionist and Lindsey's testosterone :laugh:

Gail

strandinthewind 03-17-2008 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 746915)
. . . I'm not sure there'll be room onstage though. 5 band members, 2 backing singers, 3 extra musicians, 1 extra percussionist and Lindsey's testosterone :laugh: . . . .

LMAO - don't forget Kristin Buckingham on the side of the stage holding her newborn up in Stevie's face shrieking "HE'S MY MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :eek:

(for the weak of heart - I am just joking)

David 03-18-2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 746915)
I think the Earthquakes were only one of the reasons she left to come home.

The band has an odd history of freaking out about earthquakes. Didn't they freak out about the 1971 Sylmar quake after arriving in Los Angeles? Stevie has mentioned being afraid of earthquakes a lot, & Mick has talked about it, too. Didn't he say at one point that he was moving to Hawaii partly because he was afraid of quakes? I laughed when I heard that: Hawaii is highly seismic.

michelej1 03-18-2008 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 746915)
I can't imagine her giving up her life in Kent for a year in L.A.

Gail

And she seems to like those dogs. Even if Douglas and George (are those their names?) have passed on, I'm sure she's now got others she loves as much. You still have to quarantine your pets before transatlantic travel, don't you?

Michele

strandinthewind 03-18-2008 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 747187)
And she seems to like those dogs. Even if Douglas and George (are those their names?) have passed on, I'm sure she's now got others she loves as much. You still have to quarantine your pets before transatlantic travel, don't you?

Michele

No - you just have to fly commercial and have the correct papers - http://www.dogfriendly.com/server/tr.../england.shtml

tuigirl 03-18-2008 02:58 PM

Pat Benetar or Suzi Quatro...either of those two would be able to inject some serious umph into the band !!! Suzi and John could try and outdo each other in a bassline battle and Stevie and Pat could eyeball each other up front with Linds stuck in the middle :D

michelej1 03-18-2008 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tuigirl (Post 747227)
Pat Benetar or Suzi Quatro...either of those two would be able to inject some serious umph into the band !!! Suzi and John could try and outdo each other in a bassline battle and Stevie and Pat could eyeball each other up front with Linds stuck in the middle :D

Well, I guess you could say they've already almost shared the stage with Pat -- but I could really see Suzi with them and could hear Stevie and Lindsey on Stumblin' In. In fact, I wish Stevie and Lindsey would sing that even without Suze.

Michele

chiliD 03-18-2008 03:54 PM

Ditch Buckingham & Nicks...get Bob Welch, Billy Burnette & Martha Davis

Play the "House of Blues" sized venues. Fleetwood Mac is LONG past the days of arenas...the SYW tour was a joke being in venues that large. They had the right idea during The Dance tour to just do 8-12,000 seat amphitheatres...multiple nights in bigger cities. Nothing wrong with playing smaller venues...they NEED to regain the intimacy of their audience again. Fleetwood Mac has lost it's touch with their audience.

Oh...those who mentioned Pat Benatar...Neil Geraldo is part of the package, so if Pat joins, so does Neil. Sound familiar?

SteveMacD 03-18-2008 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 747243)
Ditch Buckingham & Nicks...get Bob Welch, Billy Burnette & Martha Davis

Play the "House of Blues" sized venues. Fleetwood Mac is LONG past the days of arenas...the SYW tour was a joke being in venues that large. They had the right idea during The Dance tour to just do 8-12,000 seat amphitheatres...multiple nights in bigger cities. Nothing wrong with playing smaller venues...they NEED to regain the intimacy of their audience again. Fleetwood Mac has lost it's touch with their audience.

Oh...those who mentioned Pat Benatar...Neil Geraldo is part of the package, so if Pat joins, so does Neil. Sound familiar?

Get Robert Pollard and a lead guitarist. That whole 2 albums every ten years thing would become 10 albums every two years. :thumbsup: The dude writes so much that there's really no need for anyone else. Of course, I'm not so sure having him in the same band with McVie would be good for McVie...


PS, if your curious, check out some of the samples from his solo and Guided By Voices albums on Amazon. Songs I'd recommend to Fleetwood Mac fans are Miles Under The Skin, Our Gaze, Hold On Hope, As We Up We Go Down, Game Of Pricks [Alien Lanes version], Closer You Are, Teenage F.B.I., Blessed In An Open Head, Glad Girls, Everyone Thinks I'm A Raincloud (When I'm Not Looking), Girls Of Wild Strawberry, and Love Is Stronger Than Witchcraft.

tuigirl 03-19-2008 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 747243)

Oh...those who mentioned Pat Benatar...Neil Geraldo is part of the package, so if Pat joins, so does Neil. Sound familiar?

My goodness ChiliD your'e right , I forgot about him! Of course he should join...he'd give Linds a run for his money in the "hotness" stakes :laugh: (and he's not a bad player either)..now THAT, would make a much more interesting band.

HejiraNYC 03-19-2008 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 747243)
Ditch Buckingham & Nicks...get Bob Welch, Billy Burnette & Martha Davis

Play the "House of Blues" sized venues.

They wouldn't be able to fill a gas tank, let alone the House of Blues, with that line-up.

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Fleetwood Mac is LONG past the days of arenas...the SYW tour was a joke being in venues that large. They had the right idea during The Dance tour to just do 8-12,000 seat amphitheatres...multiple nights in bigger cities.
Let's see... on the first and second legs of the SYW tour, they PACKED much, much larger arenas- for example, Corestates Center in Philly, AC Convention Center, Nassau Coliseum, Continental Airlines Arena, etc... and the list goes on. All of these venues were 14,000+ and were considered sold out. It wasn't until the third (and fourth?) legs where they weren't packing them in as much. Especially in the NY/NJ/PA area, it seems like they came back three or four times, so it was to be expected.

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Nothing wrong with playing smaller venues...they NEED to regain the intimacy of their audience again. Fleetwood Mac has lost it's touch with their audience.
I don't think so. FM has always been about "Big Time Rock 'n Roll," just like the Eagles, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, Van Halen, etc. They are one of the few remaining relics of the classic arena rock era, so it would be pathetic for a bunch of 60-year-olds to suddenly hit the club circuit. Let them go out with some dignity!

louielouie2000 03-19-2008 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 747319)
They wouldn't be able to fill a gas tank, let alone the House of Blues, with that line-up.



Let's see... on the first and second legs of the SYW tour, they PACKED much, much larger arenas- for example, Corestates Center in Philly, AC Convention Center, Nassau Coliseum, Continental Airlines Arena, etc... and the list goes on. All of these venues were 14,000+ and were considered sold out. It wasn't until the third (and fourth?) legs where they weren't packing them in as much. Especially in the NY/NJ/PA area, it seems like they came back three or four times, so it was to be expected.



I don't think so. FM has always been about "Big Time Rock 'n Roll," just like the Eagles, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, Van Halen, etc. They are one of the few remaining relics of the classic arena rock era, so it would be pathetic for a bunch of 60-year-olds to suddenly hit the club circuit. Let them go out with some dignity!

Thank God somebody has some sense around here! I saw FM 3 times on the SYW tour... they filled the 15,000 seat BiLo Center in Greenville, SC in 2003; They packed the 23,000 seat Greensboro Coliseum in Greensboro, NC in 2003; and I'm certain they did sell out the 19,000 seat Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre in Charlotte, NC in 2004. Just because some of y'all don't care for a Fleetwood Mac that contains Stevie Nicks and/or Lindsey Buckingham doesn't mean you can discount their selling power and popularity, or expect the rest of the world to be on board with ridiculous notions of bringing in obscure past members. For the past 33 years Fleetwood Mac has been defined by Buckingham and Nicks like it or not, for better or for worse. :sorry:

michelej1 03-19-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 747322)
they filled the 15,000 seat BiLo Center in Greenville, SC in 2003; They packed the 23,000 seat Greensboro Coliseum in Greensboro, NC in 2003; and I'm certain they did sell out the 19,000 seat Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre in Charlotte, NC in 2004.

It's true. In 2003 they were one of the top-selling concert acts. It only went down in 2004, due largely to over-saturation of the market, not lack of interest by the fans. Casual fans just weren't willing to shell out $100 again to see the same show 9 months later; doesn't mean they aren't interested in FM.

Michele

SteveMacD 03-19-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 747322)
Just because some of y'all don't care for a Fleetwood Mac that contains Stevie Nicks and/or Lindsey Buckingham doesn't mean you can discount their selling power and popularity,

Because it's not good music unless it sells well. Just ask Brit Spears. I'd rather have an amazing musical experience (go figure THAT'S what I want from a concert) in a club of 1000 than have a bland experience in a sold-out stadium. It's not the size of the crowd or venue, it's the quality of the music, of the experience. Fleetwood Mac has compromised that in the last third to half of their existance.

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 747322)
For the past 33 years Fleetwood Mac has been defined by Buckingham and Nicks like it or not, for better or for worse. :sorry:

WRONG!

Fleetwood Mac has been defined by Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Lindsey Buckingham, and Stevie Nicks. The only way it will be completely accepted as Fleetwood Mac is if Christine came back, and that isn't going to happen. So, let's have fun with it.

LiamMcConville 03-19-2008 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 747335)

WRONG!

Fleetwood Mac has been defined by Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Lindsey Buckingham, and Stevie Nicks. The only way it will be completely accepted as Fleetwood Mac is if Christine came back, and that isn't going to happen. So, let's have fun with it.

Obviously most didn't mind that Christine wasn't touring, because the BuckinghamNicks incarnation of Fleetwood Mac STILL managed to sell out huge venues. What does that say? :shrug:


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