Ann the Man Coulter Endorses Hillary over McCain
 

Hell hath frozen over :eek:

I saw that yesterday & wasn't shocked or anything. She was doing something she always does: using an extreme rhetorical device or ploy in order to lambaste a pseudo-conservative.

I like the way she just ignores the Lizard these days. She sits with her back to him now, whenever she's on the show. I must say, he handled it pretty amusingly this time, whereas in the past he'd just blather on in that blithery-dithery way of his, trying to retake the direction of the argument. He has always annoyed me so.

Surprised...

I never cared for Coulter, though.....so I try to avoid my exposure...

P.S.....that one guy does resemble a lizard....

Does this count as a flip flop?

He does look reptilian. I'd love to see Clooney go on there and debate with Hannity, a natural wonder of the world walking around all brainless and shiz.

On edit, the end is very funny. "My work is done!"

I can picture the set director at Faux 'News':

"Annie, now tilt your chair so it looks like you're snubbing Alan. Yeah, I know, you guys do coffee in the morning and you sometimes watch his kids, but trust me it'll look great on TV.

No, Annie, you have to cross your legs. Why? Because your testicles bulge out too much if you don't. We've talked about this.

Where's the wardrobe lady? Yeah, you. How many times have we told you, nothing on Ann that shows her Adam's Apple!"

:laugh:

and the dandruff falls on your shoes and the set :cool:

:wavey:

That does it. I'm definitely not voting for Hillary now. :wavey:

This should tell us something..come on now everyone vote Obama on Super Tuesday !!!:blob2:

No, Hillary is smarter and more tenacious. Her speeches are filled with specifics on exactly what she will do as president, whereas Obama's speeches are feel-good gobbledygook. And based on how his ties to Exelon Corporation led him to weaken a bill on notifying citizens of radioactive leakage, I think Obama's type of "bipartisanship" will just result in letting the Republicans have a lot of what they want. We have an experienced fighter in Hillary.

Hmm do we really want a President who everytime she begins to slip in the polls puts on a phony and calculated sob routine? Besides that she voted to authorize the Iraqi debacle ..that is enough right there.

What I really want is for irrelevant stories about things like crying and lapel pins and haircuts to be ignored in favor of real issues.

As for Iraq, I don't think Obama can claim to be more anti-war than Hillary. He has funded the war at every opportunity. It was easy for him to be against the war when he had no vote to give, but upon becoming a senator he turned timid. Why would he fund what he called a "dumb war"?

Every Democrat gave John Kerry a pass on this issue in 2004. But now it seems like Hillary must pay for the sins of everyone who was duped by George Bush.

Word!

I find it offensive that Hillary is criticized by some for choking up and in the next breathe, people are saying she is void of emotion.
:confused: It feels like she is judged on a harsher scale than the rest of them. We were all duped by Bush but if she ever was to stand up and say she made a mistake voting for the war, she would be called weak, indecisive and accused of changing position when it became unpopular.

Obama is just not experienced enough for me. He has not had to make as many tough votes in the Senate because he hasn't been around as long as HC. Obama may be an inspirational speaker but her track record on the issues inspires me more.

I also worry that if Obama gets the nomination, he will not be able to beat McCain in the GE. I think Hillary can. Electability (sp) should be a factor when people make their choice tomorrow, imo.

of course she is. like it or not, women are relative newcomers in the political arena, and she's gonna have to prove herself. she's a woman playing a man's game - she's going to be too soft for some and too shrewd for others.

I agree with all of this except the last part - I suspect he is as electable as Hillary, & a very recent poll says that he beats McCain, but Hillary doesn't (if the election were now). But to me she's just the better candidate.

- Jake

Duped by a chimp with a 91 IQ who cannot complete a sentence?This does not bode well for her Presidency and I do not believe she is more electable than Obama ..she is a very polarizing candidate.

And I thought she came off very well on Letterman Monday night.

- Jake

His IQ is 91? Where did you see his WAIS-R results. Moreover, last I checked, he compltes 99% of his sentences publicly uttered, thgough he had laid about 100 humdingers over the last eight years :wavey:

Seriously, Hillary could not have voted against the US continuing inspections in Iraq. Remember, her husband and the D's were more than happry to bomb Iraq just a few years earlier and by all accounts (see all the unanimous UN declarations, resolutions, etc. for the prior 10 years) - Iraq was hiding something - remember SH kicked the UN out, but no one faults him for that - it's all W's fault. Thus, voting to continue the inspections was the right thing to do, at least according to unanimous world consent :shrug:

I do not believe Hillary ever supported or votred for the premature canceling of the inspections and the rush to war, which is where W and his cronies went wrong.

In the end, I think Iraq cannot be summed up in a few sentences like "we should never have gone there" or something like that. I think that after 9/11, we could not afford to let SH fester, esp. when the world thought he had WMD. Put it this way, if someone on your block blew up your house and killed your family and you knew based on all intelligence that some unrelated other person also on your block who was your sworn enemy had explosives and had used them on you and your allies in the past - wouldn't you want someone at least to go there and make sure they no longer had those explosives? I know I would even though they had nothing to do with blowing up my house :shrug:

To be clear, I think W and his cronies lied about the ending the inspections prematurely and rushing to war. I also think they botched the war from the beginning by not putting wnough troops on the ground. Interestingly, now that we have more troops on the ground, the tide is turning our way. Go figure. I also think W is a criminal and should be in jail. I despise his presidency.

Can Hillary be the one to unite? I doubt it. But, I do not think political unification of America is possible. So, I think she is the best choice as far as experience goes. She clearly has demonstrated he ability to cross the aisle as the junior senator from New York.

As for Obama, he talks a great game of change from the old ways, but he surrounds himself with old style players. Clearly, that is symbolic of something negative. Yet, people cannot see that, which amazes me. Obama does, however, most reflect my personal political ideals.

Finally, if Obama is the D nominee, I will vote for him. I do, however, think that if they were smart politicians (oxymoron I know) - it would be a Clinton/Obama ticket, which would be unbeatable, esp. against McCain, who IMO will be the R nominee.

He sounds & speaks like a simpleton.

She ain't gonna unite me with her faction, that's for sure. She has always struck me -- in looks, speech & politics -- as the quintessential bureaucrat.

Not only is it not possible (unless you mean it in its widest possible metaphorical sense) but it's a meaningless meme, to use the vogue word. It's a slogan, a platitude. It's designed to excite the emotions in some way, not to correspond to a demonstrable truth or to stand up to close verbal scrutiny.

That's an excellent way to put it. Sadly but not surprisingly, it describes all the candidates in the two big parties -- every election since time immemorial.

^^^

détente :cool:

I do submit, though, that anyone who could fly a fighter plane has an IQ greater than that alleged. However, it is possible the drug and booze abuse lessened the IQ over time.

Well, would you rather he voted against funding? He shouldn't approve giving more money to the troops? We're there now, nothing we can do (under Bush) to get the hell out, so they'd better at least give the soldiers what they need to do their job. I'm not stupid, I know that money isn't going right to the troops or paying for equipment, but that's part of it.

I'd like to add "looks like a simpleton." Did you guys see him point and WINK at someone at his last state of the union? :rolleyes:

More than all the others?

I know. We can't really point a finger at any single candidate, it's damn near impossible not to have SOME sort of shady connection whether they know it or not.

I appreciate people being passionate about who they want to run, but I hope that if Obama wins the nomination, Hillary supporters won't say "well, forget this, I'm voting for McCain" or even not vote at all - then we're really f*cked. :distress: Same goes for Obama supporters if Hillary gets it.

Notice neither of them said "no" at the last debate when asked if they would consider running together. :cool:

Anyone want to share with me H. Clinton's and B. Obama's views on gays?

Here's what I got from youngamericanvoters.com:

Obama:
Opposes same-sex marriage
Supports civil unions
Against a Constitutional ban on same-sex marriage

Clinton:
Voted against an amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman
Supports civil unions
Opposes same-sex marriage


The site is very, very basic, but you can compare & contrast the candidates based on specific issues.
http://www.youngamericanvoters.com/

Barack Obama refused to have his picture taken with pioneer for gay rights, San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsom.
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5...nnewsomua2.jpg

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../BAM5US1B5.DTL

I am sure the Obamaniacs will be able to spin this as a bold and righteous move by their favorite.

^ I'm more concerned with the way he's voted on issues & what he says now than who he didn't have his pic taken with 4 or 5 years ago. :shrug: I'm not trying to spin in, it's just not a priority in my decision making - too much of this "he said, she said" bull**** & finger-pointing & "yeah, but he did this & that" is what makes people not want to bother researching the candidates or watching the debates. Unless he was quoted as saying "I hate gay people" or "I'm not taking a picture with that faggot," then I don't care.

I've said it before, I'm fine with either democratic candidate & will support whoever gets the nod. I don't dislike Hillary, but I'm leaning toward Obama. It bothers me slightly that Hillary keeps slamming him for not having a health plan that will cover all Americans (Obama's would be offered to all Americans who can't otherwise get/afford health insurance, but doesn't mandate that everyone have it & penalize them for turning it down like Clinton's plan would) but my shock & disgust that McCain has NO plan far outweighs my annoyance with the pissing contest among the Dems.

These people are running his campaign - so it is more than just having his pic taken with them.

Who is running his campaign? What do you mean, "these people?"

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

Hillary Clinton on Civil Rights
Click here for 37 full quotes on Civil Rights OR 3 older headlines OR other candidates on Civil Rights OR background on Civil Rights.
MLK recognized that working within the system was necessary. (Jan 2008)
1962: met MLK Jr. preaching a sermon in Chicago. (Jul 2007)
1965: brought black classmates to all-white church. (Jul 2007)
We've come a long way on race, but we have a long way to go. (Jun 2007)
1995: Politely criticized China's human rights. (Jun 2007)
1988: Instituted gender diversity Report Card within ABA. (Jun 2007)
Developmental thread: tragedy of race must be made right. (Jun 2007)
Pushing for privacy bill of rights. (Jun 2006)
Argued with Bill Clinton about diluting affirmative action. (Oct 2005)
1972: Worked with Edelman on school desegregation in South. (Nov 2003)
Apologize for slavery, but concentrate on civil rights now. (Oct 2000)
Crack down on sex trafficking of women and girls. (Jan 2000)
Human rights are women’s rights. (Jan 2000)
Women’s rights are human rights. (Dec 1999)
Support National Endowment for the Arts. (Feb 1997)
Affirmative living: involve entire village against racism. (Sep 1996)
Sex selection, prostitution & war rape: human rights issues. (Sep 1995)
Gay Rights
Telling kids about gay couples is parental discretion. (Sep 2007)
Positive about civil unions, with full equality of benefits. (Aug 2007)
Let states decide gay marriage; they're ahead of feds. (Aug 2007)
GLBT progress since 2000, when I marched in gay pride parade. (Aug 2007)
Supports DOMA, which Bill Clinton signed. (Jul 2007)
Don't ask don't tell was an important transition step. (Jun 2007)
2004:defended traditional marriage; 2006:voted for same-sex. (May 2007)
Federal Marriage Amendment would be terrible step backwards. (Oct 2006)
Gay soldiers need to shoot straight, not be straight. (Nov 2003)
End hate crimes and other intolerance. (Sep 2000)
Gays deserve domestic partnership benefits. (Feb 2000)
Military service based on conduct, not sexual orientation. (Dec 1999)
Voting Record
Op-ed: Voted no on flag-burning to build centrist credential. (May 2006)
Voted NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
Rated 60% by the ACLU, indicating a mixed civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
Rated 89% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 96% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)

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http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm

Barack Obama on Civil Rights
Click here for 36 full quotes on Civil Rights OR other candidates on Civil Rights OR background on Civil Rights.
2004 DNC speech merged "heritage" with "diversity". (Dec 2007)
The politics of fear undermines basic civil liberties. (Oct 2007)
Racial equality good for America as a whole. (Jun 2007)
Put the Confederate flag in a museum, not the state house. (Apr 2007)
Muslim heritage gives Obama unique influence in Muslim world. (Oct 2006)
No black or white America--just United States of America. (Oct 2006)
Forthright on racial issues and on his civil rights history. (Jul 2004)
Defend freedom and equality under law. (May 2004)
Politicians: don't use religion to insulate from criticism. (Apr 2004)
Miscegenation a felony in 1960 when Obamas practiced it. (Aug 1996)
The civil rights movement was a success. (Aug 1996)
Affirmative Action
Benefited from affirmative action but overcame via merit. (Dec 2007)
Include class-based affirmative action with race-based. (Oct 2007)
Better enforce women's pay equity via Equal Pay Act. (Aug 2007)
African-Americans vote Democratic because of issue stances. (Jul 2004)
Supports affirmative action in colleges and government. (Jul 1998)
Gay Rights
Being gay or lesbian is not a choice. (Nov 2007)
Decisions about marriage should be left to the states. (Oct 2007)
Homosexuality no more immoral than heterosexuality. (Oct 2007)
Ok to expose 6-year-olds to gay couples; they know already. (Sep 2007)
Has any marriage broken up because two gays hold hands? (Aug 2007)
We need strong civil unions, not just weak civil unions. (Aug 2007)
Legal rights for gays are conferred by state, not by church. (Aug 2007)
Disentangle gay rights from the word "marriage". (Aug 2007)
Gay marriage is less important that equal gay rights. (Aug 2007)
Gay rights movement is somewhat like civil rights movement. (Aug 2007)
Let each denominations decide on recognizing gay marriage. (Jul 2007)
Supports health benefits for gay civil partners. (Oct 2006)
Opposes gay marriage; supports civil union & gay equality. (Oct 2006)
Marriage not a human right; non-discrimination is. (Oct 2004)
Include sexual orientation in anti-discrimination laws. (Jul 1998)
Voting Record
Strengthen the Americans with Disabilities Act. (Aug 2007)
Voted NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
Rated 89% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 100% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)

I posted a link earlier in the thread you started about voting - pay attention ;)

It is post #8 in the "Lesser of Two Evils Thread" to wit:

This questions more than the obvious IMO. People will vote for Obama because he is black - South Carolina proved that. I cannot say I blame them. Ditto for Hillary and women - the primaries are proving that. On the R side, the situation is the same. People cannot vote for a pro choice and/or gay sympathetic person. They can be down the line conservative in fiscal policy, but the loathing of anti-Jesus baby muerders and faggot lovers is too much to overcome. So, I think party line voters are in a little trouble in this upcoming election - or, at least in the primaries.

Personally, I think that anyone who things Obama can or wants to make significant changes is deluding themselves. His actions to date and the people he surrounds himself with in his campaign prove my point ( http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-t..._a_lobb_1.html ). But, he is intelligent, energetic, and inspiring, not to mention electrifyingly charismatic - so, I think people are beguiled by that. I am not saying I do not think he would be a good President. I think he would. And, I will vote for him against anything the R's have now. But, call it the jaded voice of experience, Obama's seemingly earnest claim that he is the avenue for significant change is bogus. Put it this way, since I have been alive, every single President has been the candidate for BIG change and the lobbyist still run Washington and Big Oil's a$$ is wiped by the Congress.

So, I think both scenarios you posit will happen and they are equally was awful. But, it is what it is and in the end, you have to vote for the candidate you like. In this particular election, that will be divided on Christian, race, and gender lines - and IMO regardless of the actual effectiveness of any candidate.

I am paying attention, I just usually don't bother clicking your links. :cool:

You are forthwith shunned :p

Just read it. I'm not making the connection between lobbyists & taking a pic with a gay pioneer. :shrug: Help me, old & wise one.

BTW - interesting that the HRC (Human Rights Campaign) rates Obama & Hillary the same on gay rights despite his refusal to take a pic with someone.

Clinton says lobbyists run Obama South Carolina campaign

By: Associated Press -

MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. -- Hillary Rodham Clinton says lobbyists are leading Democratic presidential rival Barack Obama's South Carolina campaign.

At a debate Monday, Clinton tried to blunt John Edwards' criticism about lobbyists influencing presidential politics. "But, you know, Barack has a lot of lobbyists who are leading his campaign here in South Carolina," Clinton said.

THE SPIN:

Influence-peddling and lobbying money are recurring themes in the run-up to Saturday's Democrat primary in the state. Edwards is running South Carolina ads noting that Clinton and Obama have taken lobbyist money, while he does not.

THE FACTS:

Obama's campaign announced this month that former South Carolina Gov. Jim Hodges had become a national co-chairman. Hodges' lobbying and consulting is registered to lobby for Hillenbrand Partners, a Chicago-based company that does business with the Federal Home Loan Bank in Atlanta.

Two other South Carolina leaders in Obama's campaign have lobbied in South Carolina. Senior adviser Rick Wade said he last lobbied in 1996. Anton Gunn, Obama's state political director, was a registered lobbyist between 2001 and 2004, according to state Ethics Commission records.

Obama adviser Steve Hildebrand said the campaign has no problem with lobbyists volunteering to work, but no federal lobbyists are on the campaign's payroll and they cannot donate money or collect it from others. "We're not going to prevent people from being volunteers on this campaign," he said. For instance, Hildebrand said he gave up federal lobbying work for an environmental group as a condition of taking his paid staff position.

When he was an Illinois state senator, about 40 percent of Obama's campaign cash came from political action committees, corporations and unions. He has since sworn off taking money from Washington lobbyists and PACs. "We've never walked away from that. He's said it's time to change that," Hildebrand said.
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So, let's see, people who get paid millions a year plus huge perks from politicians are volunteering to work on the campain of someone who is not going to do them favors -- hmmmmm there's a bridge in Brooklyn that's for sale :laugh:

I think we are talking about two different things. I thought we were talking about the lobbyists "volunteering" on Obama's campaign, allegedly with no hope of political favor. He is doing that now.

As for the photo op - Obama is no fool - he is playing the gays and they are lapping it up - much like they did when Bill Clinton did just about the same thind in 1992 - I was in the room when he said he would abolish the ban on gays in the military.

Hillary speaks!

As I have traveled around the country these past twelve months, what I sensed in my heart has been confirmed – America is embracing its LGBT sons and daughters with an acceptance and understanding as never before. On the campaign trail, a father of a gay son will ask about ending Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. A woman will ask why she can be discriminated against just because of who she is. Sometimes they wait furtively for the crowd to thin and then whisper their confidences in a soft voice and sometimes they stand up proudly at town meetings and want me to share my views on how I will help lead the change to assure that this country fulfills its promise to everyone.

Let me tell you what I have been telling voters across America. I am fully committed to the fair and equal treatment of LGBT Americans. For seven long years, the Bush Administration has tried to divide us - only seeing people who matter to them. It's been a government of the few, by the few, and for the few. And no community has been more invisible to this administration than the LGBT community.

I will change that. The best evidence of what I will do as President is what I have already done.

* I am proud of my record as First Lady, as a U.S. Senator and as a candidate for President in working toward the fair and equal treatment of LGBT Americans.
* I am proud that as Chair of the Senate Democratic Steering and Outreach Committee in 2006, I worked closely with LBGT community to develop a smart strategy that defeated the Federal Marriage Amendment. I am proud of fighting the FMA as divisive wedge politics at its worst.
* I am proud to be a co-sponsor of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, the Matthew Shepard Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act, and the Domestic Partnership Benefits and Obligation Act which would grant the same benefits (including health insurance) to domestic partners of federal employees that are currently offered to employees’ legal spouses.
* I am proud to have authored the Early Treatment for HIV Act, which expands access to vital treatment options for low-income individuals living with HIV, and fought to fully fund the Ryan White CARE Act.
* I am proud that I hired a National Director of LGBT Outreach within a month of announcing my candidacy for President and to have openly gay and lesbian staffers serving at all levels of my campaign.
* I am proud to have a National LGBT Steering Committee of over 130 that includes openly LGBT elected officials, Board members and opinion leaders on issues ranging from transgender rights, to HIV/AIDS, to “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell”.
* I am proud to have marched in Gay Pride parades as both First Lady and as Senator and to have spoken in front of so many LGBT audiences ranging from the Human Rights Campaign, Empire State Pride Agenda, the Hetrick Martin Institute, PFLAG (Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and Gays), GMHC (Gay Men’s Health Crisis), and the American Foundation for AIDS Research.
* I am proud to have fought Republican efforts to demonize and marginalize the LGBT community, and I will continue to do that as President.

We have so much work to do. When I am President, we will work together to make sure that all Americans in committed relationships have equal benefits and that nothing stands in the way of loving couples who want to adopt children in need. We're going to expand our federal hate crimes legislation and pass the Employment Non-Discrimination Act and assure that they are both fully inclusive of all people. And finally, we will put an end to the failed policy of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Courage, honor, patriotism and sacrifice – the traits that define our men and women in uniform – have nothing to do with sexual orientation.

My father was a conservative Republican, who held very traditional views for much of his life. Yet in his last years, it was a gay couple who lived next door who provided much of the compassion and comfort he and my mother needed as he grew ill. And it was that same neighbor who held his hand as he died. If my father can move, America can move.

To each and every LGBT American, I say this. You have done so much to help this country understand your lives by simply being open and honest about who you are and living your lives with dignity. Thank you for your courage. It is time that we recognize your hard work. I know that this country is ready for changes in the law that reflect the evolution in our hearts.

America deserves a President who appeals to the best in each of us, not the worst; a President who values and respects all Americans and treats all Americans equally no matter who they are or who they love. I want to be that President. I want to be your President.

How is he "playing the gays" by NOT having his pic taken with Newsom in 2003? :shrug: I was responding to Vermicious' post. I think we're still talking about 2 different things.

And I think both dem candidates are far more pro-gay than the republicans (duh), but are any of you upset that both Hillary & Obama support civil unions, but not "gay marriage?" Just curious.

Quoted from the article you linked to:

To be fair, Obama already addressed this on "Meet the Press":

MR. RUSSERT: ..."I will not allow a lobbyist to work in my White House"...

SEN. OBAMA: Right.

MR. RUSSERT: ...and now you've changed on that.

SEN. OBAMA: No, I...

MR. RUSSERT: You said they can work.

SEN. OBAMA: I haven't changed. Look, the terminology may have changed, the, the basic concept remains the same. I am going to break the revolving door that has become so commonplace in this administration and in some previous administrations. If you want to work in my White House, you will not be able to regulate former employers. And if you leave my White House, you will not be able to lobby agencies that you used to work for on behalf of folks that were regulated. That is the revolving door that has to be broken to give the American people confidence in, in their government.

MR. RUSSERT: So if a lobbyist agreed to those terms, they could work in the White House?

SEN. OBAMA: Look, there are people who may have lobbied 10 years ago, 15 years ago. They may be able to render excellent service to the American people as long as they're clear that we want people of integrity and we want this link between you cashing in and you serving in government broken.


I don't doubt that ALL of them have some lobbyists donating/running/assisting their campaign. Obama obviously shouldn't have made such a blanket statement - I don't think he meant to lie outright, but he obviously keeps needing to clarify/correct himself, so he shouldn't have said anything. No one is freaking out that the other candidates have lobbyists involved in their campaign - not because this isn't the case, but because they never addressed it! :lol:

Was it Barrack or Hillary who said something to the effect of "nobody's hand are completely clean, it's impossible" in one of the debates when this issue was brought up. That's sad, but true. I think it's up to them how much influence they allow people to have on them. I know what you're saying, Strand, I really do. But that doesn't mean that Barack (or Hillary or anyone else) have to continue the status quo. I don't think ALL politicians are crooked, but I'm not fooling myself by thinking any one of them is completely innocent. Nobody's pulling the wool over my eyes & I'm not naive. I can only HOPE that he's being honest when he says what he does in the above quote, and that he actually will make an effort to not do favors for people. What else can you do?

^Word. I cast my vote for him today in the primary. I think having the intention to create an office where individuals are not directly profiting from policy is a great start. It seems like common sense to me. That's not the type of sense the current administration has used though. Nuts.

yes! I am upset by that. But at this point it's almost a let's take what we can get.

And for the record - the reference to Ann Coulter as a trans woman in this thread is totally offensive. (offensive to trans people - I don't care about Ann Coulter). No, I'm not kidding...just wanted to throw that out there :o

A Muslim as President?
 

What would that mean, to elect a Muslim as president? Would that mean the Jihad was off? The troops could come home? It would be interesting. Let's, instead, vote a woman in.. Come on, guys... you know the women in your life have ruled. Did mom not wake you up every morning, put breakfast on the table, pack your lunch and send you off to school? So why not let a woman run the country? What do you have to lose? I can't believe that Hillary's White House would be much different than Bill's.. and during Bill's White House rule, he erased the national deficit to zero, we had not been involved in a war in 8 years and gas was under one dollar a gallon. I voted for Hillary today. I hope you do, too.