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xdreamsunwindx 08-30-2007 08:54 PM

Do you..
 
This is bound to stir up some **** on the board, but then again, what hasn't? I'm just wondering something, because with all the younger kids on here now, I was curious if this new "generation" of FM fans is as bad as those of us who came along from 1997-2003. Veteran Ledgies, you still stickin' it to the man? Newer Ledgies, are you proudly following in our footsteps? Either way, I want to know.

This will be an anonymous poll; if you feel like elaborating, be my guest. NO ASSHOLERY, EITHER. I don't wanna hear it. If you want to feel my wrath, fine, but like Sarah said, I eat babies. You don't mess with a chick who eats babies.

That being said, my question for all Ledgies... Do you hit the head? Smoke the tree? Insert other clever euphemism for smoking weed?

Chrislit18 08-30-2007 09:10 PM

I'll Elaborate.
Ive never tried it, dont know if I'd ever want to or not.
In My opinion, if somebody does it, its thier own bussiness, and I could really care less if somebody wants to do it. It doesnt make you any less of a person.

I think, that overall, Pot is the least harmful of all of the 'illeagal' drugs, and if I were to do a drug, I think it would be my drug of choice. But Id only do it at home in my basement, a la That 70s Show. The only time I even disrespect someone for doing that stuff, is when kids are doing it at school, during school hours, just because everyone makes a big deal out of it, and it just gets annoying how people think it makes them cool for doing it at school.

my philosophy on it is -do it if you please, but do it on your own time, in private.

carrie721 08-30-2007 09:12 PM

only occasionally, out of lack of opportunity and interest. it doesn't do a lot for me ... i never really feel buzzed. so i stick with red wine and whiskey sours. :laugh:

Sarah 08-30-2007 09:17 PM

I began smoking pot in my younger, rebellious days.
I continue it out of my belief that it does have spiritual and medicinal qualities.

I smoke in cycles. I'll smoke fairly heavily and frequently for, say, a week or two. Then maybe I won't smoke at all for a week or two. Or, I may smoke one time a day, every day for a long period of time. I don't believe in wasting grass or smoking more than it takes.

I have very, very strong beliefs about it, actually, and I would consider myself an activist. A few of my friends in the "more legal states" actually are medical growers or associated with medicinal marijuana clinics. They are very well educated, traveled, and seasoned individuals, and the stories they have to tell are incredibly touching. I think it's a damn shame that this government - the government of the prozac nation - encourages citizens to cram pill after pill down their throats, even warning that they "may cause unpleasant side effects, such as FALLING ASLEEP WHILE DRIVING", yet a plant... that grows in practically every part of the world and has been used in treatments for thousands and thousands of years... is "wrong" and "illegal". What the **** you?

As I mentioned in another thread, I have an anxiety disorder. Truthfully, marijuana is the only "substance" (i hate calling it that.. it's a plant!) that helps me chill out without turning into a freaking zombie-fied form of myself.

I could go on for years. THIS is my primary topic of sociopolitical concern. If you can't legalize it, decriminalize it, and stop throwing stoners in jail with mandatory sentences and letting violent offenders out on parole!

Richard B 08-30-2007 09:30 PM

I do not smoke very much at all (2-3x per year), but I used to love it. I waited a long time to try it too, which was 25. In my late 20's, I couldn't get enough of it.

Similar to Sarah's post, I'd like to see the day when I go to my grocery produce section and see pot available, just like any other herb.

On edit, I'd rather people smoke weed than drink alcohol. I find alcohol to be the worst of the two "evils."

Sarah 08-30-2007 09:36 PM

Oh, and I'd just like to add, that if you'll do a little research, you'll learn that it was only made illegal because of corruption, racism, and ignorance.


"Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice."

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."

"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."

"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."

"Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"

"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."

"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."


And, it remains illegal today for, yet again, corrupted reasons: 1. big tobacco doesn't want it legal and 2. bureaucrats won't have a job anymore if they run out of people to "punish" or "treat". And, now, thanks to the wonders of D.A.R.E. and Reagan's "War on Drugs" (which has increased overall drug usage by an estimated 80 percent) the government has SUCCESSFULLY CONVINCED YOU that it was RIGHT to make it WRONG. Be proud, America... they are looking out for you!

And, you know, that's just talking about smoking it. Nevermind the fact that hemp was a valuable crop for hundreds of years and sustained many, many farms/plantations when America was first colonized. Nevermind the fact that hemp could be a valuable crop for farmers NOW who are otherwise suffering as they try to compete worldwide. Nevermind the fact that hemp has shown promise as a biofuel for more than 100 years. And, nevermind the fact that hemp could be used for paper products instead of whacking down trees.

Ignorance. We are consumed by it.


And, I'd also like to add a disclaimer that I don't think everyone should smoke it or use it. I just think people need to STFU about it being wrong, when they have no evidence that it's wrong other than the government says so. It's just like anything else... not for everyone. Some people see no effect. Some people let paranoia (because of legality and social stigma) affect them more than the high, and that's not good. It really is just a shame anytime - when it comes to something dealing with your own body and mind - you're forced to feel bad, hide it, or whatever.

p.s. carrie, you just need some good weed. :P

JazmenFlowers 08-30-2007 09:38 PM

at least 2x per month

Chrislit18 08-30-2007 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard B (Post 716840)

On edit, I'd rather people smoke weed than drink alcohol. I find alcohol to be the worst of the two "evils."


EXACTLY!

I've never heard of somebody killing someone while stoned, but while drunk, a whole sh*tload can happen.

Pot is not as bad as everyone thinks, and this is coming from somebody who has never tried it.

carrie721 08-30-2007 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 716844)
p.s. carrie, you just need some good weed. :P

probably :laugh:

i'd try it if an "expert" (ahem) pointed me in the right direction :D but considering the numbnuts i know around here ... i think i'll wait :laugh:

irishgrl 08-30-2007 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 716844)
Oh, and I'd just like to add, that if you'll do a little research, you'll learn that it was only made illegal because of corruption, racism, and ignorance.


"Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice."

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."

"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."

"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."

"Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"

"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."

"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."


And, it remains illegal today for, yet again, corrupted reasons: 1. big tobacco doesn't want it legal and 2. bureaucrats won't have a job anymore if they run out of people to "punish" or "treat". And, now, thanks to the wonders of D.A.R.E. and Reagan's "War on Drugs" (which has increased overall drug usage by an estimated 80 percent) the government has SUCCESSFULLY CONVINCED YOU that it was RIGHT to make it WRONG. Be proud, America... they are looking out for you!

And, you know, that's just talking about smoking it. Nevermind the fact that hemp was a valuable crop for hundreds of years and sustained many, many farms/plantations when America was first colonized. Nevermind the fact that hemp could be a valuable crop for farmers NOW who are otherwise suffering as they try to compete worldwide. Nevermind the fact that hemp has shown promise as a biofuel for more than 100 years. And, nevermind the fact that hemp could be used for paper products instead of whacking down trees.

Ignorance. We are consumed by it.


And, I'd also like to add a disclaimer that I don't think everyone should smoke it or use it. I just think people need to STFU about it being wrong, when they have no evidence that it's wrong other than the government says so. It's just like anything else... not for everyone. Some people see no effect. Some people let paranoia (because of legality and social stigma) affect them more than the high, and that's not good. It really is just a shame anytime - when it comes to something dealing with your own body and mind - you're forced to feel bad, hide it, or whatever.

p.s. carrie, you just need some good weed. :P

not to mention the tobacco industry and the cotton industries were sagging during Hemps cultivational heyday, so whaddya do? go to Washington DC, lobby the hell out of Congress, a bit of payola and VOILA! Hemp is now illegal!

catinthedark 08-30-2007 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carrie721 (Post 716831)
only occasionally, out of lack of opportunity and interest. it doesn't do a lot for me ... i never really feel buzzed. so i stick with red wine and whiskey sours. :laugh:

exactly the same for me here. just sub martinis, white wine and stella for the red and whisky sours! :)

michelle2677 08-30-2007 10:17 PM

I put every once in awhile, but actually it's more rare than that.

I havent' smoked it in a few years. it's the only illegal drug i've tried or will ever try. I actually enjoy it (although the last time i did it i had a bad experience) and I wish it were legal.

I agree with the people who say it is a MUCH safer drug than alcohol, but with anything, it's not without it's consequences. there is no way I would ever be able to drive or do..really anything while completely stoned. I'm sure there are some people who do just like those who drive drunk.

I enjoyed doing it either in the comfort of my own home (or friend's home) or at concerts was always nice.

but right now while on this diet, I don't need anything that's gonna give me the "munchies" :lol:

catinthedark 08-30-2007 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 716867)

but right now while on this diet, I don't need anything that's gonna give me the "munchies" :lol:


am i the only one who doesn't get the munchies from tokin'? never. but give me 2 or 3 martinis, and i need to eat everything in sight!

Miss Vicky 08-30-2007 10:23 PM

I've never smoked it and never wanted to (though I've had some contact highs at concerts and such). I hate it; the smell makes me nauseous and I can't stand to be around anyone who is smoking or who smells like it. Same goes for tobacco.

Sarah 08-30-2007 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catinthedark (Post 716868)
am i the only one who doesn't get the munchies from tokin'? never. but give me 2 or 3 martinis, and i need to eat everything in sight!

i'm the same way. i don't like to eat when i get stoned, cuz it weakens the effect for me.

but i get drunk munchies like freakin crazy. (i'm proud of myself, i haven't had a drink in almost a week. i've decided to try to quit drinking for the most part again.)

and that makes me kind of sad vicky, but i respect your opinion. i love the way it smells. different strains smell differently... but i love the piney, woodsy smell. ahhhh.

buckymcnix 08-30-2007 10:35 PM

wait . . . wait. . .
What??

giggle:D

SteveMacD 08-30-2007 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard B (Post 716840)
I do not smoke very much at all (2-3x per year), but I used to love it. I waited a long time to try it too, which was 25. In my late 20's, I couldn't get enough of it.

Similar to Sarah's post, I'd like to see the day when I go to my grocery produce section and see pot available, just like any other herb.

On edit, I'd rather people smoke weed than drink alcohol. I find alcohol to be the worst of the two "evils."

I think that really depends on who you're drinking and/or smoking with.

buckymcnix 08-30-2007 10:43 PM

ok - for realz -

what??


lol

sarah - you are right - carrie just needs REAL weed :p- and the aromas and strains are all different - my fave is blueberry - no it doesn't smell anything like blueberries but it's a great name.

and it actually is very effective medically -
arthritis, migraines etc.

gldstwmn 08-30-2007 11:31 PM

I don't smoke weed anymore.

estranged4life 08-30-2007 11:43 PM

Nah, I have never tried it but every person in my family has smoked it...

Thus rendering the opening lyric of the Merle Haggard's song "Okie From Muskogee" inaccurate - "We don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee..." (Yeah right, my family opened the market in Muskogee for pot, c'mon man!!!) :D :thumbsup:

Sarah 08-31-2007 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckymcnix (Post 716876)

and it actually is very effective medically -
arthritis, migraines etc.

it's practically limitless medicinally speaking. there are many people being treated with it, and they don't get "stoned".. each strain has different cannabinoids, and different combinations of them produce different effects. we like to get stoned off the THC, but many patients don't want to be stoned.. they want the anti-inflammatory properties, or something to promote an appetite, or anything else, really. many don't even smoke it, instead opting for tinctures of whatever active "ingredient" they seek. :)

it's taboo to say it, but there is a bit of evidence that cannabis (especially in form of oil) was used in Jesus' healings. :eek: And really, I don't think that's outside the scope of possible reality.

And funnily enough, the Bible predicts a good herb's prohibition:

… And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31)

God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be for meat."

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. (Paul 1 / Timothy 4:1-3)


Ahhh.. Research. The Weapon of Mass Awareness. ;)

GypsySorcerer 08-31-2007 12:20 AM

I did a little bit in college, but I haven't in about four years or so. I never thought the high was that great. :shrug:

LiamMcConville 08-31-2007 02:31 AM

Never have, never have had the urge. :shrug:

I've been in "hot box's" many a time, but never have actually smoked it myself. I'm not a fan of the smell, but it definitely doesn't bother me when people smoke it. Except for my idiot younger sister of course. Also, I don't really like the idea of intentionally ingesting smoke, so I've told my weed-chef friends, if they want me to get high with them, they better make me some damn good Butter Cookies.

By the way, if you all want the "recipe" for the best "Butter Cookies" you've ever had, I'm sure I can hook you up. :thumbsup:

LukeA 08-31-2007 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 716875)
I think that really depends on who you're drinking and/or smoking with.

Interesting you automatically seem to assume he was referring to it from the social aspect, and not health wise- because only an idiot would suggest that marijuana use is more harmful to the body than alcohol, especially over a sustained period of time.

JazmenFlowers 08-31-2007 08:41 AM

is it strange that I become incredibly intelligent when I'm high? :shrug: I can come up with the most philosophical scenarios and make up new words. 2 of my most infamous musings while high are: coming up with the word neosapian (which I think is actually a word) and saying "both sides of my brain are working in tandem now!"

:lol:

Sarah 08-31-2007 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 716931)
and saying "both sides of my brain are working in tandem now!"

holy ****. :laugh:

i know exactly what you mean. see, with my brain, the problem that i have is lack of clarity because i constantly jump from thought to thought, worry to worry. the grass helps me slow down a bit and actually, yknow, finish one thought before moving on to the next. so i like to keep a little journal handy and write... the problem with that is that my handwriting is crap when i'm stoned. maybe if i can train the sides of my brain to work in tandem every time..... :laugh:

JazmenFlowers 08-31-2007 08:53 AM

^^^
you and me both. in fact, I could have posted, word for word, what you just said. I love it when I feel like I smoked some bad pot and that I won't get anything from it and then all of a sudden, it hits and I start to giggle. when that happens, it's on bitches.

normally, I'm a ditzy blonde with moments of clarity. think Stevie, circa 1983. stoned, I'm cool, chill and a ****ing genius. think Stevie, circa 1983. :D

danax6 08-31-2007 09:10 AM

I never smoke that stuff, and I hate people who do! Go away! :mad:

Sarah 08-31-2007 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 716937)
^^^
you and me both. in fact, I could have posted, word for word, what you just said. I love it when I feel like I smoked some bad pot and that I won't get anything from it and then all of a sudden, it hits and I start to giggle. when that happens, it's on bitches.

normally, I'm a ditzy blonde with moments of clarity. think Stevie, circa 1983. stoned, I'm cool, chill and a ****ing genius. think Stevie, circa 1983. :D

that is the best.. because it's like, at first you're leaning towards getting kind of sad about it, like you wasted money on crappy weed and got your hopes up for nothing.. and then, it hits, and everything is better. it's like you're twice as happy as you normally would have been.

on another board that i frequent, there's a thread for "random things friends say when they're stoned". it is the funniest stuff i have ever read.. and you can tell some of these people are pot philosophers, too. there are, of course, the resident stoner idiots.. but hey. every group has its idiots.

next tour, i vote the ledgie stoners have a tailgate party/bake out before a certain show. woot.

JazmenFlowers 08-31-2007 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 716945)
next tour, i vote the ledgie stoners have a tailgate party/bake out before a certain show. woot.

stoned honky Ledgies supporting FMac ftw! :woohoo:

michelle2677 08-31-2007 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danax6 (Post 716942)
I never smoke that stuff, and I hate people who do! Go away! :mad:




I do not believe this. michelle.

:mad:

Raeven Skye 08-31-2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catinthedark (Post 716868)
am i the only one who doesn't get the munchies from tokin'? never. but give me 2 or 3 martinis, and i need to eat everything in sight!

hehe..no..i never got the munchies either, but i drank a lot of beer! i rarely ever smoke now, and if i do, it's only a little... i'm a very economical stoner :lol: doesn't take much! i don't mind if people do, tho, and i think it should be legalized

Sarah 08-31-2007 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa1769 (Post 716955)
I am the exact same way! I smoke to unwind from my busy mind.

Just recently, I started acupuncture treatments to see if it would help calm my sweaty hands. And let me tell you, it sure helps calm the mind. I have never in my life felt so relaxed. Its like I'm in a constant meditative state. Daydreaming, if you will.....lol....Been doing some deep thinking!

I would like to try acupuncture at some point (no pun intended) if I can get un-afraid. I don't think there's a suitable place to have it done around here, anyway, though.

Lisa1769 08-31-2007 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 716958)
I would like to try acupuncture at some point (no pun intended) if I can get un-afraid. I don't think there's a suitable place to have it done around here, anyway, though.

I never would have dreamed that I would be having acupuncture. I went to a new chiropractor and he does it. It has been a very enlightening experience. I feel like I can breathe again. I hope you can get "unafraid", and find someone with good technique. You will love it!

Sarah 08-31-2007 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa1769 (Post 716961)
I never would have dreamed that I would be having acupuncture. I went to a new chiropractor and he does it. It has been a very enlightening experience. I feel like I can breathe again. I hope you can get "unafraid", and find someone with good technique. You will love it!

The thing that really scares me is having them on my face. Is it absolutely necessary to have them on the face?

Lisa1769 08-31-2007 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 716963)
The thing that really scares me is having them on my face. Is it absolutely necessary to have them on the face?

He has never put them on my face. He puts them in my palms, and the area between my thumbs and index fingers, lower ankle region, and sometimes elbow area. The last visit he did my neck and spine. When he swabs the areas with alcohol he always swabs areas on my face, but has never stuck me there yet. not sure whats up with that..:shrug: It really doesnt hurt!

DeadliestPoison 08-31-2007 10:27 AM

Tried it, didn't care for it, probably wouldn't smoke it again. Ditto alcohol.

JazmenFlowers 08-31-2007 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadliestPoison (Post 716969)
Tried it, didn't care for it, probably wouldn't smoke it again. Ditto alcohol.

I hate the taste of alcohol...in every form...wine, beer, anything. unless it's masked by some fruity flavors. the only reason I ever drink is to get drunk. lol.

picture it. Berkeley. September 2006. Tom Petty. Stevie Nicks. Ledgies.

xdreamsunwindx 08-31-2007 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadliestPoison (Post 716969)
Tried it, didn't care for it, probably wouldn't smoke it again. Ditto alcohol.

Sigh. I remember when me & Marissa tried to get you drunk. "Come on, you won't taste it! COME ON!" But then again, you would have probably ended up an alcoholic so maybe it was for the best..

I had my first sip of beer when I was like 8. I hated it, but when I was about 15 or 16, I tried a Yuengling and I ~fell in love~. lol. I'm a filthy drunken whore, what can I say? :laugh: No, I prefer getting stoned over drinking. I can't do both at the same time, either, because I just become so ****ed up that I can't function, period. So it's one or the other.

&.. anyone else smoke menthol cigarettes after smoking a bowl? It keeps the high going, imo.

danax6 08-31-2007 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xdreamsunwindx (Post 717114)
Sigh. I remember when me & Marissa tried to get you drunk. "Come on, you won't taste it! COME ON!" But then again, you would have probably ended up an alcoholic so maybe it was for the best..

She definitely turned me into one. :mad:


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