Stevie sure brings out the crazies!
 

Well, I'm certainly not going to post a link or anything, but the old (and virtually dead) Stevie group on UseNet sure brings out the lunatic fringe. The most recent post there is an asinine, lurid story by some sick **** with a diahrrea fetish. No, really. :rolleyes:

Can anyone explain why Stevie brings out such a disproportionate number of crazies? Bill Gamelson, the guy who wanted to kidnap her and force her to cure his homosexuality, the crazed fan who raped that impersonator, diahrrea fetishists, the guy who did dozens of nude portraits of her, ebay members selling her snot rags, the religious fundamentalists who tried to ban her music, ex-fans fantasizing about gagging and raping Stevie for releasing songs they didn't like... are there any other female singers out there with a concert security watch list longer than Stevie's? :confused:

I think its because, they're so far in their "own little world" that the "little world" that Stevie creates around herself is really appealing to them. I think they feel like "she's the leader of their pack."

I don't know if that makes any sense. I'm sleepy. :laugh:

Maybe someone can turn what I'm saying into something more understandable.

Well, many of them she used to hire.

I can think of another very crazy fan but since they were banned from here a few years back I won't go into detail.

Don't forget the people who quit jobs, pack their stuff and move to Phoenix JUST because Stevie has a house there. :laugh:

Truer words rarely spoken!

Yeah, aren't they sorry now. :laugh:

Yea That scares me,I dont want to see Stevie get shot from a employee,like Selena did. Also I think any artists got to worry about nutcases stalking them.

Stevie's unique and ethereal image and persona seem to attract quite an array of fans, from the exquisitely eccentric, to the obsessive loons, as well as "regular Joes"...she can just touch so many people with her music and her, well, Magick.

I think that's about right. I think also the psychologists would also say that she reminds them of their mothers. Literally, for real. Stevie kinda plays certain "games," i.m.o., with her sensuality, her attractiveness and so on and also plays the "motherly" card at the same time. Unfortunately some people don't get that it's just a game, and is just for fun or at most a "teaching tool" that she uses along with her music, or more cynically, a way to rake in some major buckage.
I think maybe some of them also get the impression that she's some kind of "Angel," and then when they find out that uhmmm . . . she's kinda human and uhhh - not an angel . . . they get angry. Seems to me those kinds of people tend to be very judgmental and moralistic and they go on either a "she's going to hell" spree or a "I'm going to save her" spree. With the crazies, it seems to me that the second usually turns into the first.

Pssst . . . .

Stevie

carries

a

gun.


(Or so I've heard.)

HEY! I am NOT exquisite!!! :shocked:



:laugh:

He just attended her Phoenix show and submitted a review to the Nicks Fix.

Ohhhh, criminy.

And they put it up? :shrug:

But of course, you ARE~Something Exquisite!
:)

Yes. Which I thought was strange due to the history there.

could someone PM me and fill me in on this Bill Gamelson guy... I have heard him mentioned a lot before, but I dont really know what he did or anything. Is he the guy that wears the bandanas to the concerts and trys to give gifts? I see him at almost every show I go to.

Doubtful--I don't think Stevie's security people let him get past the doors to get into the concerts.

True, but I doubt the people at the gates of these venues know what he looks like?:shrug: Unfortunately..:rolleyes:

I doubt they let him near the stage but how could they possibly prevent him from getting into a concert venue? Unless she has a restraining order against the guy, he is allowed to come to her shows. No one knows if she really has a Protection Order or not, so........:shrug:

They can throw anyone got they want - ditto for refusing admission. A ticket is a revokable license, that is all. Of course, they'd have to catch him amongst the thousands entering.

you're not alone. as deep as I am in lots of areas and as long as I've been "around" I've yet to piece together what exactly the problem with this Bill dude is. :shrug: other than a few questionable trade tactics, that is.

maybe we should have an "official - this is why BG is bad" thread. :laugh:

Sounds like it's time to pack up and move to Malibu now. :laugh:

I had people removed for hassling me in the green room. It only happened a few times but no one ever seemed to mess with the 6'4" 350 security guard that I would call if there was a problem. :lol:

Huh? :shrug:


(Sorry, I'm a born skeptic. I'm not so sure I believe in Astrology either. I'm a Capricorn by the way - supposedly Capricorns are born skeptics. THAT outta send 'ya into a paradoxical loop for a few minutes! :lol: )

By the way, what happens when the "psycho fans" start hiring 6'5" 400-pound security guards of their own? :rolleyes:

k so, not to be grim but I can try to answer this. I don't know what's actually true, and what's not true, but here's a summary of some of the things people have claimed, as well as some things I've seen personally myself.

1.) Chris Nicks once described him as a "Dutch-boy Danny Bonaducci (sic)" who follows Stevie from city to city
throughout the tours trying to get to meet Stevie after every show." He also has supposedly once said to him flat--out, "Stay away from my sister!" The general idea is that it was said in a way that's pretty hard to misinterpret how he feels about it.

2.) When Mr. Nicks died, he posted in a google discussion group that "JESS NICKS IS BURNING IN HELL! ! ! ! !
I hope there's lots of ice there! This was posted on New Year's eve - that night, when "everyone else" was celebrating and having fun with friends and family - or at least with casual acquaintances. He's something like 43 or 45 years old.

3.) Before the current tour began, he threatened (online) to bring a gun to one of the concerts - front row - and shoot himself right in front of Stevie. "Taking out as many people as he can" at the same time.

4.) One thing that REALLY bothered me personally is that he once created a "religious" website that used a drawing of Stevie as an "Angel" in order to try to solicit money. Think about what he really did - It seems to me that Stevie has made quite clear that she doesn't want to endorse any one specific religion. Her Image also has a dollar value to it - a significant one. He's 45 or so and he is NOT stupid. This isn't a case of not knowing better, he just didn't care; and he COMPLETELY disregarded the feelings and personal philosophy of someone he supposedly "loves." In order to raise money.

5.) His behavior has changed over time. He initially, I believe, started acting as if he "loves" Stevie and her music. Then he found out that she has (allegedly) done this that and the other thing. Especially that other thing - yeah. And he fairly quickly, it seems, became extremely judgmental of her and angry towards her. Ranting about how she's "going to hell" etc. These issues, while he's free to have opinions on them and maybe even to express them, deal with private things which are none of his business. For him to FOCUS on them and yes OBSESS over them, at his age, is very troubling.

6.) People have said he's really just an "attention whore." Well, granted he has other interests such as politics, and there's apparently been trouble in those discussion groups as well. But Stevie is the only celebrity he focuses on. He has indicated very clearly that his unrequited feelings towards Stevie have turned from "love" to wanting to "Save" her to anger and hate. That's a time to sit up and take notice.

7.) Granted he seems to have sort of "deflected" most of this anger towards fans of Stevie on the Internet. And he loses interest for long periods of time. But he "always comes back," and it's always Stevie he's focusing on, not any other celebrity. Stevie is perceived as being "inaccessible" and that seems to only stoke the fires for him. He's been asked to stop repeatedly and yet he doesn't; or he'll stop for awhile (maybe until "the heat's off) and then starts again.

8.) He once came into the Nicksfix chat room and started talking with another person there about "how to take out Stevie's security guards" in order to get to Stevie. He's not small and he gives the impression that he's physically strong. Granted he would have been in for one HELL of a surprise, it still seems worthy of some notice.

9.) Even when he's repeatedly asked to stop by people in the fan community - and, I believe, also asked to stop by "Stevie's People," he continues. In other words, "You MUST stop this; you're scaring Stevie and making her EXTREMELY uncomfortable" has no long-term effect on his behavior. I don't know that for an absolute, 100% certifiable fact - but he sure as hell gives that impression.

10.) http://www.nicksfix.com/billgamelson2.jpg

Hey Ghosty.. I didn't realize you were a Cappy too! :wavey: I knew there were several reasons why I liked you! LOL:thumbsup:

Uhmm, THANKS! :laugh: :wavey:

Now thats scary. Can they put this Bill guy away. for Stevie"s sake.
How about that guy in Denver .Colorado, what happened to him.

I forget what state this happened in. some wacko guy hung himself with his cars jumper cables in the venues parkinglot after the concert. I forgot the details on this case.was it about his girl friend or Stevie.

What Denver Colorado guy?:shrug:

His name is Ronald Anacelteo , I found this on www.smokinggun.com site.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/stevienicks1.html

well thanks for sort of clearing up a little history...creeeeeepy!

Exactly. He, in fact, has a new review posted up on NicksFix.
Apparently John Kinney doesn't find him a threat, either, or he wouldn't have posted his review (he used his full name for the review, not just "Bill").

why are you always first on the scene when someone brings up BG? do you get off on talking about people who threaten to kill stevie? maybe you are BG.

Someone ASKED what was the story behind "the Bill guy", and this was an ANSWER.
I don't see anything wrong with answering someone's question, geez.
Carrie, maybe you should "chill" as you asked me to! :shrug: LOL.

i know what happened. thanks for the handy recap though.

oh, and i asked you to chill because you wouldn't stop talking about your horrendously awful unfair banning. different sitch.

You are welcome, Miss Carrie721!:wavey:

Why are you calling this person BG?

It seems to me as though someone asked a question and this member simply gave an answer...

Are you following some of the newer members around for the sole purpose of making them feel uncomfortable here?

Back to the topic:
I had always heard that Stevie's people were "aware" of BG and that they try to keep him out of shows, etc. Yet his review is up on the NicksFix - that's strange to me...