For Sale
 

Okay - so the big sticky has been stuck up there for much of the day. How does everyone feel about The Penguin - and thereby The Ledge - being up on the block?

I bow down to Marty and Lisa. To undertake something to this degree - and to do it with such professionalism and ability - is rare. They have made this entire site into something great - and part of the reason The Ledge is community is what it is is due to what they have put into this place over the years.

So, with a huge thank you to them... how do we all feel about it changing hands?

Deb had a relative pass away recently, and in the near future she will receive and inheritance check.

Though we are separating, we plan to split that money so I would have a little bit that I would be willing to use to save this website...But I fear it wouldnt be enough.

I dont want to see the Penguin nor the Ledge cease to exist...I have made too many good memories and friends here - friends I consider my family!!!

Well, this is a big shock!!!! I have no idea how much it would cost but I'm interested just so the site will still live on (and with an utmost repect to Marty and Lisa).

Since joing the ledge a few months ago with help from a friend i have become a a fan of Stevie Nicks .I hope that this site dosen't become a memory . I have met a few people on here and talked to others. Everyone has opened there arms to me and accepted me. There are those that have given me advice, that I have taken to heart. I hope that whom ever hands the ledge falls into that they respect the feelings, emotions,and memories of those that have been on here for years. I also hope that they relize its effect and importance to the people that post here.

Not great but not unexpected.

i'm not shocked -- we've all known how much of a great expense this site has been to keep it up and running on a daily basis. marty and lis have done an amazing job throughout the years sinking not only money but time as well into what i'd consider the most impressive site for information on all of the band members. realizing how much it does cost, i have a feeling it will be shut down unless someone say -- oh, i don't know -- like john mcvie wants to buy it and hire someone to run it. its a damn shame this never became the official site but perhaps someone will save it.

Just clicked on this post and I'd heard nothing about the Penguin being for sale!? Where does it say this?

Ok.... I see it now

I agree with everything you have said.

I hope the site doesn't get shut down after all the hard work Marty and Lis have put into it.

::whispers:: I also hope the 7 wonders crew don't try to buy it!

It's a shame that what takes up the most bandwidth and generates the most traffic on this site- The Ledge board- doesn't feature any advertising. What a lost revenue source, considering most of the bandwidth is used for pages filled with posts that have nothing to do with Fleetwood Mac.

Anyone who would actually consider to buy this site would need to take that into consideration. It's just common sense.

:distress: it would break my heart to see the ledge not go on~ it is the only place i consistantly come & i have made some wonderful friends here~ i was freaking when it was down for that week, to have it cease to exist would be so tragic!!!:distress: ~

If I had the technical expertise and money, I would love to buy and maintain this site.

I hope someone is able to step up and save it.

Thanks Marty and Lisa for years of enjoyment.

Yes, thank you Marty and Lisa, the site is simply amazing. I'd just be curious to know how much a website like this would go for? Are we talking hundreds, thousands, millions?

I have often wondered about this, too. There is the link to ebay etc, but a few adds on the top and bottom of the Ledge pages could help a great deal. I also think a new potential owner needs a revamp of the forums....chitchat is the most popular forum. To buy and pay for a FM site, where there is hardly any FM talk and tons of useless chitchat...well, it is something to consider. I certainly hope someone steps up to the plate...and I think someone will. Fleetwood Mac.com is the most useless site around and if the band or LB ever plans on touring again, a site like this is great for them. Maybe John should buy it. :lol:

i just read about this and i hope that the ledge will stay up. if not we'll have to find another way to chat.

Or maybe I should. :laugh:

Do you have tens of thousands of dollars at your disposal? Do you have the technical expertise to run and maintian a site like this? If so, maybe you should make them an offer. :rolleyes:

I have no idea how much the site would cost. I really hope someone is willing to take it up .... God help us if we all have decamp to Seven Wonders... :rolleyes:

Would an increase in the number of supporting Ledgies help ease the burden on the new owner at all? I've been meaning to subscribe for ages, and I'm sure plenty of others would be willing to chip in to help keep the site up. Obviously that won't cover the entire expense, but I'm just thinking. Is that realistic? :shrug:

Are we seriously talking tens of thousands?
Scorn not my simplicity, I haven't the foggiest idea!! :o

Well, yes, it would help, but there are some other things that would probably help. Yes, the pricetag for some might be a bit......wow, but there are some other things that, once purchased, would bring in some extra revenue. Advertising for one, is the most likely option. You gotta give Marty and Co. props for really keeping The Ledge ad free, but with a new owner, advertising would more than likely provide so much needed website security. And with that money, depending on how much it is, the likelyhood for expansions and updates increases, because as you all know, buying a website isn't just a once and done. You HAVE to pay to maintain the site, so a consistant, heavy stream of cash could do wonders.

You know, if I had the money, and wouldn't be starting college in a year, I think it would be a very cool thing to do, so the new owner will more than likely not be me, so yes, it is safe to come out of hiding you all. :laugh: But still, the premise of running and maintaining a site of this caliber is very intriguing, so maybe once a new owner is found, we can keep in touch.

Anyway, that is my short tidbit of the moment. Hope I didn;t ramble too long. :laugh:

Not sure...I asked one of the attorney's I work for if he had any idea. I showed him the site and he does alot of contract work. He felt it was probably worth that much. :shrug: I really have no idea what Marty and Lis are looking for though. I think it costs quite a bit to maintain the site on a monthly basis...much more than people think. Considering the site has been around since 1995, it has been built up to be the biggest source of information on Fleetwood Mac, it has the Q and A's, the forums, the discography......I think my boss is in the ballpark. The money is also just one aspect of it...it takes a vast technical knowledge to maintian the site...something that Marty said he does not have the time for anymore. Increasing supporting memberships will not ease that burden from him.

Just my opinion, but I think this has been coming for awhile now. The problems around here certainly don't help either. :shrug:
I hope John MCvie and company buy it. :thumbsup:

Let's just hope someone buys it period! I would hate to see this site shut down because no one wanted it or something. :distress: I suppose we should just enjoy every day of our Ledge to the fullest! :xoxo: :wavey: Hopefully we have many more years of enjoyment!

Marty and Lis...my hat off to you. You have created a wonderful thing here!! :nod: Thanks for all of the fun!!

Maybe Johnathan Todd will buy it.:rolleyes:

From http://directory.sootle.com/website-worth/


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This website is worth

What is your website worth?

www.fleetwoodmac.net came up as being worth close to $4000.

Oops. That makes more sense. Maybe because I didn't put it in there with the www. :rolleyes:

Who knows how it's calculated anyway.

Yeah, me neither, it says my band's website is worth 324 dollars, and that seems AMAZINGLY high to me.:nod:

A New Idea.......
 

OK guys, I thougt of something. Yes, it would be amazingly great is John and co decided to buy this site. But if that doesn't happen would it be possible is multiple people purchased a certain percent of the website? That way, expenses would be cut, and the technical responsibility would be greatly divided.

I know for one, that if the buyer desires, I would love to try my hand at some technical standpoints such as layouts and whatnot. I know I really won't be able to make a financial contribution, but the technical work could be assisted with. I am always ready to learn, and I do have ideas.

So to sum this up, would it be possible, and what are your alls thoughts on a joint ownership?

Oh, BTW, the Ledge itself is worth like 3,480, so maybe splitting it would be a possibility, although...... No, that sounds aweful.:(

yeah, I typed "www.fleetwoodmac.net":

I haven't asked Marty what he's asking for the site, but according to dnScoop....

I hope that whoever does buy it is normal and doesn't ruin a wonderful thing. :o

Good God. :shocked: I hadn't even thought of that.

I think The Wizard should buy The Ledge.

Just kidding. :shocked:

Yeah. It's called leave well enough alone.

I'm scared.:(

it's had a good run, and i accept the fact that nothing on the internet is forever. with a leadership change and redesign, i can't honestly say that i'd be interested in coming back.

lol, there's been some ridiculous stuff on here.

Oh come on, it's just a change in leadership. The over 4,000 members here aren't chaning, therefore it would pretty much be the same thing with the same people. I just don't see any sence in that argument........

Agreed, but if you want to be on the edge about news, samples and livesnippets a few hours after, you got to be here too. And the ledge is one thing, the incredible database the penguin is, is irreplacable. That MUST be saved.

Marty and Lis don't contribute to the forums much any more but change can be a scary thing for some. New owners could dramatically change the board...who knows? They could ruin it. Or they could clean house and dramatically improve it. Personally I hope some housecleaning is done, especially with the message boards part of the site.

It's not an argument, it's a statement. It becomes an argument when you try to tell me how I should think, though. I mean, seriously.

Marty and Lis have done an excellent job, and I've been here for a long time. I would rather get out while the getting's good than watch it go down the tubes. In the event that it was to become like any of the other FM boards already out there, I gotta say, have no desire to read the crap. It's all just the same recycled arguments when it comes to discussing the band. There's your sense.



And Gerald.. you're absolutely right. It is an invaluable resource. I'd much prefer to see the contents of the site stay and the Ledge itself - the discussions - go. A video/audio posting/sharing system would be good.. it's been super to catch all the videos and photos from the tours.

HM....
I will def look into this...