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Musicman408 04-05-2007 11:36 AM

Favorite Pre-Rumours Album???
 
So, we all know that Fm had a great run before the Rumours line-up, so my question is what your all's fave Pre-Rumours album is.

Feel free to discuss.

I believe mine is Mystery To Me. First Pre R. one that I heard, and have been in love with it ever since.

Much Love,
Ethan

doodyhead 04-05-2007 12:05 PM

poll incomplete
 
Dear Folks,

I do not know if you are aware of it but there are other albums inbetween PGs Fleetwood Mac (dog and dustbin) and Then Play On
my real favorite is Mr Wonderful, but there is Fleetwood Mac in Chicago (a very close second) English Rose which is really half Mr Wonderful,half singles that were not on Mr Wonderful. This does not include The biggest thing since Colosus which is minus Mic Fleetwood and Plus Otis Spann and his drummer.
People should be able to vote on those too.

doodyhead

chiliD 04-05-2007 12:28 PM

Oh, it's really a toss-up.

I'll use my standard line regarding ALL Fleetwood Mac albums:

"My favorite Fleetwood Mac album is the one I'm listening to at any particular moment".

That said, from their inception to 1974, I keep going back to either English Rose or Mystery To Me the most. With Heroes Are Hard To Find & Then Play On close seconds.

And, I just realized, I DO play Future Games an awful lot...especially on Sunday mornings. It's a great "lazy wake up" album.

macfan 57 04-05-2007 02:27 PM

Mystery To Me is my favorite Fleetwood Mac album. As far as the other pre-Rumours albums, these are my favorites, in order:

1. Mystery To Me
2. Heroes Are Hard To Find
3. Bare Trees
4. Future Games

mzero 04-05-2007 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doodyhead (Post 675861)
Dear Folks,

I do not know if you are aware of it but there are other albums inbetween PGs Fleetwood Mac (dog and dustbin) and Then Play On
my real favorite is Mr Wonderful, but there is Fleetwood Mac in Chicago (a very close second) English Rose which is really half Mr Wonderful,half singles that were not on Mr Wonderful. This does not include The biggest thing since Colosus which is minus Mic Fleetwood and Plus Otis Spann and his drummer.
People should be able to vote on those too.

doodyhead

and there is the 'original fleetwood mac' which though released in the 70's collects recordings that pre-date 'pg's fleetwood mac' (correct?).

and the uk-issued 'fleetwood mac's greatest hits' which includes uk singles up to 'dragon fly'. only pre 1974 record with man of the world, oh well (not originally on uk 'then play on') and the green manalishi...

adhering to poll rules: original uk 'then play on'

following to vinnie c.'s rules: 'fleetwood mac in chicago'

zero's rules: uk 'fleetwood mac's greatest hits'

z.

Wouter Vuijk 04-05-2007 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doodyhead (Post 675861)
Dear Folks,

I do not know if you are aware of it but there are other albums inbetween PGs Fleetwood Mac (dog and dustbin) and Then Play On
my real favorite is Mr Wonderful, but there is Fleetwood Mac in Chicago (a very close second) English Rose which is really half Mr Wonderful,half singles that were not on Mr Wonderful. This does not include The biggest thing since Colosus which is minus Mic Fleetwood and Plus Otis Spann and his drummer.
People should be able to vote on those too.

doodyhead

I still miss my favorite:
Shrine 69:thumbsup:

aleuzzi 04-05-2007 10:00 PM

This is such a difficult question...but here are my top five:

Kiln House (most favorite)
Future Games
Then Play On
Fleetwood Mac in Chicago
Mystery To Me

Dreamz19 04-05-2007 11:38 PM

This is tough because I like MTM and Heroes about the same. I ended up picking Heroes but MTM is very close. Bare Trees would come afterwards.

P90pup 04-06-2007 08:50 PM

After Then Play On, with Pete leaving, I was quite surprised that Kiln House blew me away as well. This band is bigger than it's stars. It's just a recipient
of incredible Mojo:cool:
Of course we all knew that anyway;)
I voted for Kiln House:]

P90pup 04-06-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 675876)
Oh, it's really a toss-up.

I'll use my standard line regarding ALL Fleetwood Mac albums:

"My favorite Fleetwood Mac album is the one I'm listening to at any particular moment".

That said, from their inception to 1974, I keep going back to either English Rose or Mystery To Me the most. With Heroes Are Hard To Find & Then Play On close seconds.

And, I just realized, I DO play Future Games an awful lot...especially on Sunday mornings. It's a great "lazy wake up" album.

I used to use the Beach Boys for that Sunday morning wake up stuff Steve:thumbsup:

foxyluva 04-07-2007 01:41 AM

Bare Trees. Its actually my second favourite Mac album, after Tusk...

michelle2677 04-07-2007 01:45 AM

I went with M2M by default. I only have a few P-R albums, and this one is my fav out of those.

foxyluva 04-07-2007 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 676385)
I went with M2M by default. I only have a few P-R albums, and this one is my fav out of those.

What albums don't you own Michelle? I could help you out...

michelle2677 04-07-2007 02:22 AM

Um. well, let's see. I have M2M and HAH2F :lol: :lol:

but I HAVE heard bare trees if that helps. but that was years ago. I'm in the process of buying them, so it's all good. thank you anyway. you're a sweetie :xoxo:

foxyluva 04-07-2007 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 676395)
Um. well, let's see. I have M2M and HAH2F :lol: :lol:

but I HAVE heard bare trees if that helps. but that was years ago. I'm in the process of buying them, so it's all good. thank you anyway. you're a sweetie :xoxo:

You must get "Bare Trees" - I demand it! :laugh:

:xoxo:

michelle2677 04-07-2007 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 676398)
You must get "Bare Trees" - I demand it! :laugh:

:xoxo:

LOL okay. well, i have promised someone else a different one first, but after that, BT it is :nod: :)

nicepace 04-07-2007 11:24 AM

I vote for Mystery to Me. It is my favorite Fleetwood Mac album of all time, Rumours-lineup albums included. The five Bob Welch era albums are my favorites of the entire history of the band. Bare Trees is currently running a close second; I have really been digging Danny Kirwan's songs lately.

jbrownsjr 04-07-2007 03:33 PM

Heroes is my fav album out of all the FM albums

GateandGarden 04-07-2007 09:18 PM

I'd have to say Mystery to Me, and then Bare Trees and Pious Bird of Good Omen are tied for second.

markolas 04-08-2007 11:04 PM

Only ones I've heard are Peter Green's FM, Then Play On, and Bare Trees. Out of those, I like PG's FM the best. TPO is okay, a bit too loud for my taste - I like Rattlesnake Shake a lot, though. Bare Trees is more or less unlistenable to me, and I can't see myself getting anymore albums from the Bob Welch period. Kiln House is a possibility at some point, though, as are the other Peter Green-era albums.

GateandGarden 04-09-2007 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by markolas (Post 676810)
Bare Trees is more or less unlistenable to me, and I can't see myself getting anymore albums from the Bob Welch period.

Really? I love Danny Kirwan's songs on that album. Some of my favorite FM songs there. Christine's aren't bad, either.

chiliD 04-09-2007 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by markolas (Post 676810)
..I can't see myself getting anymore albums from the Bob Welch period.

You'd be missing out on a lot of great music. Especially Mystery To Me.

markolas 04-09-2007 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden (Post 676860)
Really? I love Danny Kirwan's songs on that album. Some of my favorite FM songs there. Christine's aren't bad, either.

Well, to be fair, I did pull out Then Play On and Bare Trees and listen to them, which I had not done in a couple of years, at least. You're right, Danny Kirwan's songs are pretty good (though I don't really like Danny's Chant, especially the first part with the annoying guitar reverb, or whatever that is). As for Bob Welch, The Ghost is a pleasant enough song, but I cannot stand Sentimental Lady. I can understand why others like it, and it's not a matter of it being a bad song, it's just a matter of taste. Christine's songs are decent, but in listening to her earlier stuff, I can't help but think that Lindsey brought out the best in her; that, and her songwriting itself just improved over the years.

I'm not quite sure why I remember Then Play On being "too loud." I think I like it the best out of the three "Pre-BN" albums that I have. I don't love every song, but a lot of them are very, very good. They were moving away from being sort of a blues copy-cat group, and it was a good move.

It also seems like Mick & John's playing is way more up front on these earlier albums than in the BN era. Especially after Rumours (and probably after the FM album), it's almost like they're not even there. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 676889)
You'd be missing out on a lot of great music. Especially Mystery To Me.

Hmm. I'm actually curious about Future Games, but especially when it was just him and Christine, I'm a little skeptical. If there are too many more Sentimental Ladys on the other albums, I'm not sure I could deal.

chiliD 04-09-2007 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas (Post 677030)
Hmm. I'm actually curious about Future Games, but especially when it was just him and Christine, I'm a little skeptical. If there are too many more Sentimental Ladys on the other albums, I'm not sure I could deal.

Don't pigeonhole Welch due to "Sentimental Lady". It maybe his most generally recognizable tune, but not nearly his best. Mystery To Me & Heroes Are Hard To Find contain Welch's best songs with Fleetwood Mac.

Dreamz19 04-09-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 677035)
Don't pigeonhole Welch due to "Sentimental Lady". It maybe his most generally recognizable tune, but not nearly his best. Mystery To Me & Heroes Are Hard To Find contain Welch's best songs with Fleetwood Mac.

I could not agree more. Check out Heroes and MTM before you throw in the towel with Bob W. "Semtimental Lady" isn't a bad song but it has never been my fav of his. I wouldn't judge him by Bare Trees (Although, I really like the album)

Dreamz19 04-09-2007 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 676400)
LOL okay. well, i have promised someone else a different one first, but after that, BT it is :nod: :)

I am gonna be nosy and ask which one? ...I also second that you should get Bare Trees :nod:

GateandGarden 04-10-2007 03:03 PM

I'm glad we got you to pull the albums back out, Mark! :) :) :)

I think you'll find that Bob is usually better than "Sentimental Lady." Definitely give his MTM stuff a shot. I adore all of his songs on that album, save for "The City," maybe, which I'm lukewarm about. I'm not a fan of "Sentimental Lady," at this point either, so I hear ya about that one.

markolas 04-10-2007 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden (Post 677361)
I'm glad we got you to pull the albums back out, Mark! :) :) :)

I think you'll find that Bob is usually better than "Sentimental Lady." Definitely give his MTM stuff a shot. I adore all of his songs on that album, save for "The City," maybe, which I'm lukewarm about. I'm not a fan of "Sentimental Lady," at this point either, so I hear ya about that one.

I may very well pick up Mystery to Me. I listened to the clips on Amazon, and it sounded really good. So, who knows?

michelle2677 04-10-2007 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamz19 (Post 677082)
I am gonna be nosy and ask which one? ...I also second that you should get Bare Trees :nod:

Future Games, but BT will be the very next one after that :nod:

btw-I love all of those pictures in your sig :)

aleuzzi 04-10-2007 10:15 PM

You know, it's so damn hard to say which one to get first because those 1970-74 albums are generally VERY good and are vastly different from one another. The difference between Kiln House and Future Games, for example, is enormous, which is understandable, given the lineup changes. But the difference between Bare Trees and Future Games is almost equally dramatic---and it's the same lineup. I love every album from that period. Fork over a few bucks, Markolas, and buy 'em all! LOL.

Dreamz19 04-10-2007 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 677521)
Future Games, but BT will be the very next one after that :nod:

btw-I love all of those pictures in your sig :)

Future Games is a good one. I was just making sure it wasn't Penguin. ;) Sorry to Penguin fans but that is my least favorite of the Bob W era. However, you may really like it. And thanks about the sig :)

foxyluva 04-11-2007 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamz19 (Post 677546)
Future Games is a good one. I was just making sure it wasn't Penguin. ;) Sorry to Penguin fans but that is my least favorite of the Bob W era. However, you may really like it. And thanks about the sig :)

I love "Bright Fire" from Penguin though - its probably my fav Welch track...

Dreamz19 04-11-2007 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 677567)
I love "Bright Fire" from Penguin though - its probably my fav Welch track...

How could I forget "Bright Fire." That is the only song on the album I really really like. BF was the reason I decided to check out the other Bob Welch era albums.

aleuzzi 04-12-2007 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamz19 (Post 677648)
How could I forget "Bright Fire." That is the only song on the album I really really like. BF was the reason I decided to check out the other Bob Welch era albums.

My old roomie--who hated the Stevie-Lindsey-Christine lineup of FM--once heard "Bright Fire" on my stereo, came in and said "Hey, this is cool. A lot better than that Fleetwood Mac **** you always play."

bretonbanquet 04-12-2007 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 678087)
My old roomie--who hated the Stevie-Lindsey-Christine lineup of FM--once heard "Bright Fire" on my stereo, came in and said "Hey, this is cool. A lot better than that Fleetwood Mac **** you always play."

:laugh: :laugh:

chiliD 04-12-2007 06:26 PM

At least, as of the moment, my fave pre-75 FMac album is one that isn't listed:

English Rose

aleuzzi 04-12-2007 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 678282)
At least, as of the moment, my fave pre-75 FMac album is one that isn't listed:

English Rose

Yeah, where the heck are "Mr. Wonderful," "English Rose," "Pious Bird," and "Blues Jam at Chess" ?

I'm a huge fan of the chess recordings

Musicman408 04-21-2007 08:10 PM

I've lately been on a Bare Trees fix. Love Sentimental Lady:nod:

littlewolf 04-24-2007 03:43 AM

i voted for peter green´s fleetwood mac
as peter green period is closest to my heart
the list doesn´t actually have my favourite,mr.wonderful on it

of the mid period mac albums bare trees is my fave
i recently bought mystery to me and atleast for now it doesn´t impress me that much.it´s inferior to bare trees and future games.

chiliD 04-24-2007 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlewolf (Post 682519)
i recently bought mystery to me and atleast for now it doesn´t impress me that much.it´s inferior to bare trees and future games.


If you like Bare Trees & Future Games, I would imagine Mystery To Me will grow on you if you give it a chance. ;) :)

The Peter Green era is close to my heart, too, but saying MTM is "inferior" :shocked: to ANY Fleetwood Mac album makes me bristle to my core. :mad: :lol:

I just wish there were more live recordings available from the MTM era, so far, there's only the two songs they did on the Midnight Special TV show ("Believe Me" & "Miles Away") and the one live track ("Black Magic Woman") that Bob Welch has posted on his own website.


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