Lindsey has complimented Christine!
 

I thought you might like to know that Lindsey said something nice about Christine in an interview published on PalmBeachCoast.com on March 7, 2007:

Q: It's interesting that Under the Skin was recorded while on your last tour with Fleetwood Mac. Did you have to constantly put yourself in a different head space between the band work and working on the album, or did it all flow together?
A: It all flows together. That show was also a lot of fun for me, again, because I had had a lot of changes in my life. (On the tour) we missed Christine (McVie, who left the band) a great deal.

I wonder if he has ever told her that.

Blimey! that's a turn up.

I thought her songs didn't work too well live or were not emotionally incisive

Gail

Gail

Honk my hooter. Sounds like he has a heart after all...

Wait a minute.;)

Here's what he said in that interview after he said they missed her a great deal.

"But since there was space, with just two writers up there, there was room to flex my muscles. There was a little more testosterone up on stage, if you will. That translated into being a little more myself in context of me."

He's still on that testosterone kick.:laugh:

He doesn't half rattle on about testosterone.

"a little more myself in context of me" - what?

Gail

"That translated into being a little more myself in context of me"

wtf?

This is self-absorption squared. "if you will."

Yes, Lindsey, the classy English tea lady was sapping your man-juice. :rolleyes:

Why does Lindsey always try to sound all smart and use big words that he doesn't really know the meaning of? Learn to write good lyrics like Chris can, and use the English language properly, then we'll chat, k Linds?

I never took it as he dissed her during SYW. I mean they all talked about her absence and the reasons for it, but he was never like thank goodness that talentless slag is gone, etc. I have always gotten the impression her liked her and respected her talent.

I don't know, I was never really satisfied with what the band members said were her reasons for moving on! Lindsey and Mick got defensive and John and Stevie made it her problem. I still don't understand why Chris left.

From the SYW Documentary:
Mick: Like anyone else she deserves to do what she wants, you know...etc
Lindsey: Chris is somewhere over in England, she's just not part of this etc.
Stevie: If there was a chance she would come back we would have waited!
John: If she were here it would cast a terrible poll over this...I wish I weren't here vibe!

Ok So none of those are the reasons she dropped out. They are all explanations of her not being there. John gave the best reason, that she would be unhappy if she were there, but why? No one ever said. :shrug:

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because she was tired of being in Fleetwood Mac... not really personal... just needed to retire... physically and mentally from the band...

nothing worse than having someone do something that doesn't want to...

bad vibes for sure

Am I missing something? I always thought Lindsey and Christine were cool with each other? Or he knew she could kick his ass so he gave her some respect?

I think there was always a great of mutual respect it's just that Lindsey has been quoted as saying some disrespectful things about Chris.

Her songs don't work too well live and they are not emotionally incisive.

And he does go on just a bit too much about the extra freedom he now has.

I think he has been defensive about Chris's absence and he he over compensated on SYW. All of which leads me to believe that deep down he knows how much they miss her, he just can't bring himself to say it.

Gail

^^^ I was talking to an older lady tonight(while Dixie Chick's Landslide was playing on the jukebox). She told me that she saw SYW in Indy, and how much they were lacking, without Chris. "It's just not the same, without her". Indeed.

No prompting on my part, whatsoever.

There you go.:nod: His ego just won't let him admit just how vital she was to Fleetwood Mac.

Chris was 1/3 of the rhythm section & 1/3 of the front line. Both GREATLY suffer without her, in my opinion.

I can't imagine he talks like this in real everyday life. I can't imagine anyone talking like this normally.

I've never seen any SYW documentary, but John's comment shocks me.:shocked:

That's a very, smart lady.:thumbsup: I assume that you didn't argue with her.;)

my take on that is that he didn't mean that in a negative way, just that he is glad she's doing what makes her happy & not staying with the band just for the sake of the band.

I took it that way too.

I do not think any of them were angry with her for leaving. Like Stevie said, she lived up to her obligation during The Dance and called it quits. She had been talking about retiring long before that and had in fact retire from the touring part of the band :shrug:

In the end, she was a very integral part of FM and is missed. Does that mean FM is less good without her - who knows. I think it is just different. I mean FM has been many different groups of people and they all had something good to offer IMO.

My understanding of the Lindsey/Chris thing is that she really was someone who would stand up to him, and perhaps could not be emotionally manipulated, as perhaps Stevie could? Perhaps that sounds a little harsh, but I always got the impression that if Chris thought something, she said it, and perhaps that didn't go down too well when Lindsey was in his more 'experimental' phases.

I remember reading that Bob Welch felt similarly, on a Q&A here, that Chris could be quite frank (and in his words 'sarcastic') if she didn't like a song idea. Also, I just don't think they had much of a personal connection. Yes, I think they respected each others' musical skill, but Chris is far too down-to-earth for any of his pseudo-intellectualism IMHO.

she started talking about retirement around 1970, didn't she? LOL.

i agree that they weren't angry. definitely sad, but not angry.

this incarnation does have its strengths, but i think it definitely suffers for lack of christine. :shrug:

If you listen to the extended version of the Tusk recording sessions, you will see exactly how sarcastic CM could be. I remember listening to that and thinking no wonder La Nicks ran to a solo career because they were rather harsh with her. It likely is available by trade as I do not have it or I would send it to you.

Also, I love Scotland!

I miss her too, but I try to look at it for what it is, which is not the sound of that Rumors line up. I think most can't get past that and keep thinking FM should sound like that, which they cannot without CM. Sort of like LB will never be Peter, who will never be Bob Welch, and so on. But, yes, on the SYW tour, her playing and singing on FM's songs was sorely missed.

they were proably the two that kept the music going during Tusk, Mirage and TITN..... they were good buddies in the studio.... and obviously if they didn't respect each other they wouldn't have co wrote

World Turning
Mystified
You And I I and II
Isn't It Midnight
Chain

Agreed, but the respect was definitely musical. I don't think it was real friendship. Chris said in 92 she didn't really consider herself a close friend of his, since she didn't think he had 'close' friends.

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exactly. and let's be fair: he may have been an ass during the tusksessions, but the result has been a milestone in popmusic, even if it took 20 years to get the real acclaim.

I don't think Christine was shy in saying if she didn't like something. And sometimes we Brits can be very sarcastic! That's probably why Lindsey has said he now has more "freedom" - he doesn't like Christine disagreeing with him. I'm sure Bob Welch felt the same.

Didn't Bob Weston make some remarks about her? Something like "she used be quite shy but now she uses her fame as a weapon"


Some blokes just can't take strong women :lol:

Gail

I remember initially thinking the same thing when I first saw it. But then I realized he was just being honest about what life with her would have been like on the road. He has since said in his question and answer sessions how much he misses her and how great it woould have been for her to join them on stage in London...

I was actually more shocked by how much Mick, in the documentary, downplayed Chris's contribution to FM. He said "she was an asset to the band" and barely anything else.

Only Stevie's comments seemed genuinely warm. But again, the men felt the need to downplay her absence. The band did the same thing to Lindsey when he left in 88.

I just said, "if you wanna talk FM, I can sit here all night!".:nod:

Aaah, I see. I've just always seen their relationship as one of "Lindsey will not win this war". Lindsey was/is a petulant child and Christine was the stern mother who could tell him no. (Because...really, who else was there in the band? If Stevie Nicks said no, it would take fifteen minutes and somehow angels would be referenced and boinking would be had. And Mick double talks a lot. And I can see John doing it, but I don't see him caring as much about it.)

But I always had a feeling that if there was anyone in the band that truly respected each other, it was Chris and Lindsey. I just never saw his comments as a swipe at Chris - just misguided in his petulance and desire to "win" Fleetwood Mac, if that makes sense.

That quote was from Goldmine Magazine. She said something similar at the 1987 press conference when they introduced Rick & Billy as members of the band. She said she had the greatest musical respect for him, but that they weren't really friends.

I agree. I don't think she ever had a problem giving her opinion.;)

Fleetwood Mac did that Rockline radio show back in 1987 right after Lindsey left the band. Somebody asked Chris how things would work in the studio without Lindsey, since he was responsible for producing their albums. She replied that "they all had a hand in the production & it wasn't like they let him do whatever he wanted". That comment has always amused me, because I think "she" was the one she meant when she said "they".

Now that shocks me.:shocked: I'm glad I never saw that documentary.:)

I think it must have been difficult for them after she left.

I mean they could hardly say "well now Chris has gone we're going to be crap"

BUT some of the remarks were less than sensitive

Gail

I wonder how he talks to his kids?

Suggestions anyone?

Gail

I think Kristin provides interpretation...

"Artistically and personally speaking, I feel that this may be in the context of the living situation we find ourselves in that the concise emotions presented at this current time could have shown to be destructive rather than counter-destructive."

"Will, your father says stop playing with your food."

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