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The Catdancer 01-24-2007 07:01 PM

Reflections.... the best of Stevie Nicks
 
I just saw this posted on 'another board'.

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Just received this from Warner Music. Not everything is confirmed, but looks great!!!

Here are the details I have so far:

On March 27th we will be releasing a Stevie Nicks greatest hits collection entitled "Reflections...The Very Best of Stevie Nicks".

There is a CD only version, and the tracklisting is not confirmed, as of yet, but will most likely be as follows:

1. Edge Of Seventeen - studio version
2. I Can't Wait
3. Sorcerer
4. If Anyone Falls
5. Stop Dragging My Around
6. Silver Springs - orig FM master
7. Dreams - Deep Dish remix version
8. Rhiannon - live
9. Rooms On Fire
10. Talk To Me
11. Landslide - live
12. Stand Back - live
13. Has Anyone Ever Written A Song For You
14. Planets Of The Universe
15. Rock n Roll - live (Zep cover)
16. Leather & Lace
17. Edge Of Seventeen - live

The other version is a CD/DVD. CD tracklisting will remain the same, and DVD tracklist will contain some or all of the following.

Again, this tracklisting is not yet confirmed:

Rooms On Fire
If Anyone Falls
Talk To Me
I Can't Wait
Sorcerer (w/Sheryl Crow)
Stand Back
Stop Dragging My Heart Around (w/ Tom Petty)
Whole Lot Of Trouble
If You Ever Did Believe (w/Sheryl Crow)
Blue Denim (video & audio on CD/DVD configuation only)
Everyday (video & audio on CD/DVD configuration only)

Voice Over commentary on 3 or 4 songs (Stand Back, Stop Dragging, etc.)
Interview (audio only with Dave Wilde)
Stevie's artwork
Video from Storytellers (Rhiannon?)
EPK "Enchanted"



Some highlights of this package include "Landslide" and "Edge of Seventeen" live from Melbourne, Australia with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, which both sound amazing, as well as a gorgeous live version of Rhiannon that includes a prolonged piano intro. BUT...the "piece de resistance" is the Steve Nicks voice over commentary on a few of the older videos and footage.

danax6 01-24-2007 07:06 PM

A voice over? That sounds...interesting. :D Mick finally gave her Silver Springs? The EO17 and Landslide live are the CD is the Melbourne Symphony ones? So no video? Are the other live performances from that show also? We finally get the clips in a decent form? (remastered, 5.1 sound?) Stevie's artwork on a DVD?

Aaah, so many questions!

RockALittle250 01-24-2007 07:17 PM

How reliable is this source? Why would she put a Fleetwood Mac song on a solo release, she doesn't have permission from Mick to use it.

Nixxxed 01-24-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RockALittle250 (Post 634439)
How reliable is this source? Why would she put a Fleetwood Mac song on a solo release, she doesn't have permission from Mick to use it.

That, plus...

"13. Has Anyone Ever Written A Song For You"

... and the fact that the list says "not confirmed" at least 3 times.

I like the first fake tracklist that was passed around better, anyway.

The DVD list sounds cool, tho.

danax6 01-24-2007 07:22 PM

That was posted by the same person who initially posted word about the release, he/she is a store manager for HMV in Canada and just received the release listings. Apparantly.

Johnny Stew 01-24-2007 07:23 PM

Hmm... interesting. I'm going to take a "wait and see" attitude on this song selection though, as it could just be another bogus tracklisting -- like the one posted here a few months ago.

If it is real, then let me voice my displeasure here and now that they'd give up two slots on the CD to "Edge of Seventeen." I can think of ten other songs that could have been included instead.

The rest looks cool though.

SortaSavageLike 01-24-2007 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed (Post 634447)
That, plus...
"13. Has Anyone Ever Written A Song For You"

I hope that's on there with "Thunder Only Happens When It's Raining."

Ha. That joke never gets old!

ontheEdgeof17 01-24-2007 07:34 PM

I don't want to believe these track listings because they suck. :laugh:

strandinthewind 01-24-2007 07:37 PM

Well, the most interesting thing on it is the R&R cover, which does not have the word "live" next to it. Could it really be a studio cut, which would be incredible.

RockALittle250 01-24-2007 07:41 PM

There is alot of discrepencys here and for once i'm gonna wait for a confirmation from either the Nicksfix or her label.

Johnny Stew 01-24-2007 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17 (Post 634472)
I don't want to believe these track listings because they suck. :laugh:

Other than the inclusion of a second version of "Edge," I don't think it's really that bad of a tracklisting, overall.
A nice amount of huge hit singles and familiar radio tracks for the casual fans to want to buy it, but also some cool additions for the diehards ("Rock And Roll," live performances from Melbourne, and the Deep Dish version of "Dreams" -- for those who don't already own it).

Personally, I would have left off the songs originally recorded with Fleetwood Mac and focused ONLY on Stevie's solo material, but the inclusion of those songs does set it apart from Stevie's previous compilations (well, aside from the piano version of "Rhiannon" on 'Enchanted,' of course).

danax6 01-24-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 634477)
Well, the most interesting thing on it is the R&R cover, which does not have the word "live" next to it. Could it really be a studio cut, which would be incredible.

It does say 'live'. :shrug:

strandinthewind 01-24-2007 07:44 PM

I also think it is bogus because SS is on it and FM has refused her that song before. Granted, FM has released it, but still. Anyway, if it's true- great.

strandinthewind 01-24-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by danax6 (Post 634484)
It does say 'live'. :shrug:

Oops - I am on a bad computer and did not see it - then again, I may be just dingy :laugh:

danax6 01-24-2007 07:46 PM

Would someone be so kind to tell me what EPK is?

Johnny Stew 01-24-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 634485)
I also think it is bogus because SS is on it and FM has refused her that song before. Granted, FM has released it, but still. Anyway, if it's true- great.

From what I understand, Stevie was blocked from using "Silver Springs" on 'Timespace,' because Mick wanted to use it on the boxed-set that was being readied for release the very next year.

But the original song has now been released four times ('25 Years - The Chain,' 'The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac,' the 'Rumours' DVD-Audio, and the 'Rumours' remastered & expanded edition), so it's probably not an issue anymore.

Johnny Stew 01-24-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by danax6 (Post 634490)
Would someone be so kind to tell me what EPK is?

"Electronic Press Kit." :)

gldstwmn 01-24-2007 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 634452)
Hmm... interesting. I'm going to take a "wait and see" attitude on this song selection though, as it could just be another bogus tracklisting -- like the one posted here a few months ago.

I hope so. If not, it's pretty disappointing.

strandinthewind 01-24-2007 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 634491)
From what I understand, Stevie was blocked from using "Silver Springs" on 'Timespace,' because Mick wanted to use it on the boxed-set that was being readied for release the very next year.

But the original song has now been released four times ('25 Years - The Chain,' 'The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac,' the 'Rumours' DVD-Audio, and the 'Rumours' remastered & expanded edition), so it's probably not an issue anymore.

True - but it is still odd that she would include it even then because she has so much other stuff of her own.

In any event, time will tell.

Also - I do not mean to insult the original poster. I am just skeptical because as many of us know, some people are insincere, etc. - which they likely are not.

Johnny Stew 01-24-2007 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 634513)
I hope so. If not, it's pretty disappointing.

What makes it so disappointing?
If it's because it lacks a brand new song, I'm with you there.

Otherwise, I think that -- all things considered -- it's a pretty decent selection (again, aside from the second version of "Edge").

strandinthewind 01-24-2007 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 634515)
What makes it so disappointing?
If it's because it lacks a brand new song, I'm with you there.

Otherwise, I think that -- all things considered -- it's a pretty decent selection (again, aside from the second version of "Edge").

I think it is decent as well. I do think though that she should include some new stuff. Why not? It is not like she is ever likely to release another solo studio recording as she will be 61 this year and the Mac is touring soon as is she. I mean she likely has enough finished songs in the vault to make a 12 song record :shrug:

danax6 01-24-2007 08:06 PM

I'm trying to guess what this 'voice over' thing could be. Kind of like director's comments, where Stevie talks about the how and why of a videoclip? Or, God forbid, the stories we've heard a million times before, about what the songs are supposedly about?

gldstwmn 01-24-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 634515)
What makes it so disappointing?
If it's because it lacks a brand new song, I'm with you there.

There's nothing new there. If she's not doing any new music at this time, she could at least go into the vaults and release something no one's ever heard. I don't need a rehash of Timespace and Enchanted. And why add Silver Springs when there are several versions on the Rumours deluxe edition?
I'd much rather have had Crying In The Night as the first track list suggested. The DVD will be cool though.

Livia 01-24-2007 08:10 PM

I'm begging for BATB from Melbourne, or wherever, to be included on the DVD as well.

strandinthewind 01-24-2007 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 634520)
There's nothing new there. If she's not doing any new music at this time, she could at least go into the vaults and release something no one's ever heard. I don't need a rehash of Timespace and Enchanted. And why add Silver Springs when there are several versions on the Rumours deluxe edition?
I'd much rather have had Crying In The Night as the first track list suggested. The DVD will be cool though.

Hayley might know the answer to this question, but I think CD packaging is relatively inexpensive if it sells for around $20.00, which this likely will. Also, I think she should do like she said in that Australian interview and release some things online for $1.99 song. Surely she could make $100,000 that way if it was something not leaked and she offered some kind of bouns thing like a voiceover bonus.

RockALittle250 01-24-2007 08:11 PM

Maybe the FM songs and 2nd version of Edge are place holders for new songs! Here's hoping! ;)

Johnny Stew 01-24-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 634520)
There's nothing new there. If she's not doing any new music at this time, she could at least go into the vaults and release something no one's ever heard. I don't need a rehash of Timespace and Enchanted. And why add Silver Springs when there are several versions on the Rumours deluxe edition?
I'd much rather have had Crying In The Night as the first track list suggested. The DVD will be cool though.

Any new "best of" is bound to rehash parts of 'Timespace' and 'Enchanted.'
There's no way around it. Just as recent "best of" compilations by REM, Tom Petty, Springsteen, Heart, Bowie, Mellencamp, Aerosmith, Blondie, and so on, all rehashed parts of their previously released compilations.

There are six songs on this, however, that weren't on 'Timespace' or 'Enchanted.' And, if this tracklisting really is to be believed, five of the songs are live recordings that have never been officially released, period.

So, no, it's definitely not perfect... but it's not without its merits either.

estranged4life 01-24-2007 08:22 PM

Well...
 
I'm skeptical about the tracklisting, But that would be interesting if the above DVD tracklisting is indeed accurate.

Doesnt matter, I will end up with the compilation anyways, so no biggie on the tracklisting.

UnwindedDreams 01-24-2007 08:35 PM

Love the title... She should use it for the tour name too...

just would like to see a new song pop up on there...

JazmenFlowers 01-24-2007 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 634532)
So, no, it's definitely not perfect... but it's not without its merits either.

exactly what I was going to say.

I'm really excited about the DVD portion though.

AliceLover 01-24-2007 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 634532)
Any new "best of" is bound to rehash parts of 'Timespace' and 'Enchanted.'
There's no way around it. Just as recent "best of" compilations by REM, Tom Petty, Springsteen, Heart, Bowie, Mellencamp, Aerosmith, Blondie, and so on, all rehashed parts of their previously released compilations.

There are six songs on this, however, that weren't on 'Timespace' or 'Enchanted.' And, if this tracklisting really is to be believed, five of the songs are live recordings that have never been officially released, period.

So, no, it's definitely not perfect... but it's not without its merits either.

Yeah lets be honest we knew it was going to be a GREATEST HITS. I am with everyones disppointment about no mention of no new songs...kinda sucks, but hey did anybody notice she acknowledged the OSOTM and SA albums for the first time in years??? I can only imagine the "Stevie Commentary" for the WLT video....:laugh:

Anybody else disppointed with all the FM material included? Rhiannon, Landslide, AND Silver Springs...blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Cmon! Sucks big time IMO. Dreams is great because I love that new mix.

One more thing....I hope there is some live stuff from Vegas on here too. The vocals on that Melbourne boot was pretty lackluster compared to the rest of the GD tour, IMO. I was also kind of hoping for a live version of If Anyone Falls from the GD tour too.

ontheEdgeof17 01-24-2007 09:09 PM

When will Two Kinds of Love get it's due? Her.best.single.ever.

RockALittle250 01-24-2007 09:09 PM

Let's not forget this is unconfirmed...so there's still hope!

AliceLover 01-24-2007 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17 (Post 634590)
When will Two Kinds of Love get it's due? Her.best.single.ever.

She'll probably axe Rooms on Fire at the last moment to give me heart failure.

paleshadow 01-24-2007 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 634516)
as she will be 61 this year

Stevie was born the same year as my mom, so she'll be 59 in May. ;)

catinthedark 01-24-2007 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 634520)
There's nothing new there. If she's not doing any new music at this time, she could at least go into the vaults and release something no one's ever heard. I don't need a rehash of Timespace and Enchanted. And why add Silver Springs when there are several versions on the Rumours deluxe edition?
I'd much rather have had Crying In The Night as the first track list suggested. The DVD will be cool though.


could not agree more.

i just can't get excited about yet another "greatest best of hits ever" by stevie nicks. she loves to talk about how prolific a songwriter she is - how she never stops - and we all KNOW how many unreleased demos are out there. why not release a few???

i'm bummed. :(

amber 01-24-2007 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by catinthedark (Post 634671)
could not agree more.

i just can't get excited about yet another "greatest best of hits ever" by stevie nicks. she loves to talk about how prolific a songwriter she is - how she never stops - and we all KNOW how many unreleased demos are out there. why not release a few???

i'm bummed. :(

Yes, exactly. I hate her right now, because I love her so much. For the reasons you just said.
I don't really, really hate her, because I love her too much, but I do hate these decisions of hers. And I wouldn't hate as much if I didn't love as much. We all know what could be, that is the love part.
To be fair, she has to release this for her contractual obligations, and I'm not sure if she was allowed to pick the whole tracklisting. :shrug:
Not to excuse her, because we know that when she is allowed to pick her "tracklisting" (ie, concert set), she basically does the same type of thing.

Still love her, will never stop, but very disappointed. Her report card gets a "not working up to her potential" from me this semester.

RockALittle250 01-24-2007 11:57 PM

Let's all just wait and see what the final confirmed tracklisting is before we jump to conclusions. I'm sure some changes will be made, this album isn't coming out for another 2 months.

foxyluva 01-24-2007 11:58 PM

I like this :shrug:

carrie721 01-25-2007 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by amber (Post 634711)
Yes, exactly. I hate her right now, because I love her so much. For the reasons you just said.
I don't really, really hate her, because I love her too much, but I do hate these decisions of hers ...

every time i listen to bella donna live i kinda hate her.

every time i listen to angel live i kinda hate her.

every time i listen to that dressing room demo of TWH i kinda hate her.

:shrug: we know she can do so much more. it's frustrating.


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