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skcin 01-18-2007 02:07 PM

Moisturizer
 
Can anyone recommend a good facial moisturizer? Not a $200 jar of La Mer either, people. :laugh: Preferably something I can buy at the drugstore (I can hear them gasping from here...) that doesn't cost more than $20. :shrug:

I've used Purpose for years, but lately I'm getting lots of dry patches on my forehead, temples, jawline & chin (tmi!) I have an oily T-zone (tmi!) and sensitive skin in general (tmi!) Help!

strandinthewind 01-18-2007 02:23 PM

http://www.eucerinus.com/

GREAT stuff!

amber 01-18-2007 02:24 PM

coconut oil. :D

skcin 01-18-2007 02:25 PM

I've used Eucerin body products before, but never face. I was worried they'd be greasy, but that Q-10 Anti Wrinkle Sensitive Skin Cream/lotion looks promising.

mikeschmike 01-18-2007 02:35 PM

Clinique has wonderful stuff.

skcin 01-18-2007 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by amber (Post 631527)
coconut oil. :D

Putting oil stright onto my face is not a good idea.

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Originally Posted by mikeschmike (Post 631537)
Clinique has wonderful stuff.


Damn you gays - I said from the DRUGSTORE! :mad:


:laugh: I actually like a lot of Clinique's products (the gentle foaming face wash is fantastic.) Their yellow moisturizer that everyone uses is too greasy for me, and I never looked into anything else. I've been trying to save money as far as product goes (you know, so I can pay bills & afford food...) but I'm going to have to find something soon, even if it's more $$$.

Livia 01-18-2007 02:42 PM

I have the same skin type, and I've been using Oil of Olay, this one is for "normal" skin, I use the one for combo skin:

http://www.olay.com/boutique/complete/products/co1005

It's $8 to $9, I really like it! And you should use at least 15 SPF all year 'round, no matter where you live. :nod:

catinthedark 01-18-2007 02:51 PM

there was a consumers report or something that came out a short while ago all about how the products like la mer were no better than the drugstore moisturizers (sorry everyone!!). in fact, the study specified oil of olay as being one of the best. i'll try to track it down and add the link.

personally, i use decleor products, and some clinique. but i have extremely sensitive and reactive skin (you look at my skin, and it turns red and breaks out). decleor has a great oil-free, mattifying moisturizer, paula. i have the same tee-zone issues as you, and i really like it. it actually blots excessive oil as it moisturizes. it's called matt finish skin fluid. costs about $40.

ON EDIT: my mistake - the study was specifically about reducing wrinkles. here's a write up about it:
http://www.mcall.com/business/local/...inesslocal-hed

sara1998 01-18-2007 03:02 PM

I like the Neutrogena SPF15 moisturizer you can get from CVS. A little goes a long way, it's not greasy, and it's not expensive!

golddustwoman77 01-18-2007 03:13 PM

The best moisturizer that I have gotten at a drugstore is: Aveeno Positively Radiant. It is a great moisturizer. It makes your skin brighter in appearance. Also, it is great, if you have allergies.

http://www.aveeno.ca/en/frameset.asp

After that, I would say Oil of Olay is a close second.:thumbsup:

bikerchic 01-18-2007 03:20 PM

This is a great cleanser (exfoliator) for the shower (and its cheap):

http://www.americarx.com/discpic3/822577.jpg

and I use Biotherm for everything else (medium price range). Even though the experts say that the expensive cremes don't work and that the cheap ones do the same thing, I just love this stuff! It's smells great, feels great, and my skin (I think) looks pretty good!

http://www.biotherm.com/index.html
http://www.biotherm.ca/img/db/Packsh...e/19802x_L.jpg

bikerchic 01-18-2007 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by catinthedark (Post 631546)
there was a consumers report or something that came out a short while ago all about how the products like la mer were no better than the drugstore moisturizers (sorry everyone!!). in fact, the study specified oil of olay as being one of the best. i'll try to track it down and add the link.

I saw that story on the evening news and you should have seen the "I knew you were wasting your money on that ****" look I got from my husband :cool:

But I also saw a "beauty expert" on Good Morning America and she said, don't spend alot of money on products that are on your body for only a few seconds, like cleansers, exfoliators, shampoos, conditioners and toothpaste. Spend money on products that stay on the skin, like moisturizers and make-up :shrug: Kinda makes sense.

amber 01-18-2007 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 631539)
Putting oil stright onto my face is not a good idea.

Hello - do you think I would have told you that on a whim? Have you seen my face? I don't mean that in the way of "my face looks so good and I use coconut oil on occasion for it" I mean it in the "I am the greasiest person in the world, including all other Italians, and I still use it on my face at times and it does good, and I don't break out more than normal, and my giant pores don't get clogged more than usual".
You know how your skin adjusts if it thinks it already has enough oil, it won't make more of it's own?
I only do it a couple times a week, though, and very lightly is the key - but it does good, holds all the moisture in. I wake up even skinned and pleasantly dryly moisturized. That is the whole point of oil, it prevents moisture from escaping your skin while also conditioning. As you've probably figured out, the natural oil that comes from your skin is, well, oil. :laugh: I'm generally wary of non natural ingredients for skin, though I've learned which ones are good.

I think it is good to mix natural oils in with your other skin care regimine - grape seed oil, almond oil, coconut oil, vitamin E oil, olive oil, lanolin - at least once a week. I'm not just saying that, there are studies. :laugh: Also, a lot of these skin care thingies people are naming have one of these ingredients (usually grape seed oil).
So my mom knew this lady, right? She worked with sheep, where lanolin comes from. Lady always had her hand in their "fur" and whatnot - anyway, this lady had the youngest looking hands mom ever saw, from working with the lanolin in the sheep fur. Like, totally preserved. Again, oils hold in your body's natural moisture.

Ho, sh*t, I just forgot this really good one...it's like, Alpha Lipoic vitamin E for your skin, I get it from Whole Foods...I was using it for awhile (it is fairly expensive, $15-25 a bottle) and it kinda smelled funny, but my skin looked really, really good (relatively, for me) from using it. I'll get back to you on that one. And I will go buy it again today. haha.

Also, I'm telling you, for your awesome exfoliation needs, you gotta get that pumpkin sh*t.

Some I've tried that sucked for me: Oil of Olay. I don't put many moisturizers on my face besides sunscreen and aforementioned, but I've never tried a drugstore brand that was good, like oil of olay. I mean one of the more expensive drugstore brands. My coconut oil was like, 3 dollars, so is lanolin. Grape seed oil is a bit more pricey ($7? $10?) but all that other shizz with weird chemicals never does me good.

skcin 01-18-2007 03:37 PM

^ I don't care what you say, I am NOT buying a sheep! :D

I did just buy L'Occitane grapeseed shower oil to try. Love it so far. :nod:

sara1998 01-18-2007 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bikerchic (Post 631572)
This is a great cleanser (exfoliator) for the shower (and its cheap):

http://www.americarx.com/discpic3/822577.jpg

I use this also, and it is excellent!

bikerchic 01-18-2007 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sara1998 (Post 631591)
I use this also, and it is excellent!

I know! It smells good and if you leave it on for a minute or so, it actually starts to feel warm. Love it!

amber 01-18-2007 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 631589)
^ I don't care what you say, I am NOT buying a sheep! :D

I did just buy L'Occitane grapeseed shower oil to try. Love it so far. :nod:

You're missing out then. At least buy it for your hands and under eye area. :D

I'm glad you are happy with your L' Occitane grape seed oil cleanser thingy.

I don't really use soap on my face, it makes me break out like nobody's business. And clogs my pores at the same time. And dries my face for one day, then the next day my face is super oily and I have a bunch of pimples. I do use pumpkin stuff to exfoliate, toner from proactive once a week or so, and I have a home microdermabrasion thing. Honestly, I have to tell you the best thing my face ever found was the pumpkin stuff, and getting microdermabrasion and fruit acid glycolic peels at the asthetician. :shrug: You gotta keep turning over those skin cells and unclogging your pores to keep fresh. And if you have big pores, even better.


Since you said you've been experiencing dry skin, you might have a buildup. I recommend you contact an aesthetician in your area and schedule a fruit acid peel and microdermabrasion, to get rid of that icky dry skin. The bad news is, it could cost you 80 or more dollars. I think the dermabrasion is 100 ish, the fruit acid peel less. But the good news is, you shouldn't need that again for awhile, and your skin will look great after. Seriously, I was very pleased with my results, and you know how crappy my skin is. For your skin it would probably be even better.

But for my shower, I use naturaly almond soap, all made of natural oils and smelly good almondy. Whole Foods. And since I know you'll somehow never buy it, I'm sending you some of that pumpkin sh*t. :)

SuzeQuze 01-18-2007 03:55 PM

For a cleanser I use one from Trader Joe's that has tea tree oil. It cleans great without over drying and doesn't leave my skin greasy either. Tea tree oil is a natural remedy for acne.

I like Lumene night cream. I also use Oil of Olay during the day and have for years.

I saw a report on that study mentioning that expensive creams did no better than the cheaper ones. There's no way to really know unless you do a 20 year study which is so expensive I don't think anyone would. But I suspect there isn't much difference. The study did mention that expensive products will have more exotic ingredients, like bees' testicles or whatever. :lol: Okay, not really BTs. :laugh: So if you can afford those luxurious products then what the hell, why not?

amber 01-18-2007 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 631602)
For a cleanser I use one from Trader Joe's that has tea tree oil. It cleans great without over drying and doesn't leave my skin greasy either. Tea tree oil is a natural remedy for acne.

True. Witch Hazel as well, though it is a bit more drying. I haven't found even a naturally type cleanser for my skin that does it well, and I still don't think people need to cleanse their face much and strip the oils, but I might try a tea tree oil thing. See how it goes. You, and most others here, have such nice skin that it is hard to translate what might work for me.

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 631602)
I like Lumene night cream. I also use Oil of Olay during the day and have for years.

Wow, that is good. Oil of Olay night stuff just cocked my skin up really bad. Like, dry skin, but pimple city. It was weird.

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 631602)
I saw a report on that study mentioning that expensive creams did no better than the cheaper ones. There's no way to really know unless you do a 20 year study which is so expensive I don't think anyone would. But I suspect there isn't much difference. The study did mention that expensive products will have more exotic ingredients, like bees' testicles or whatever. :lol: Okay, not really BTs. :laugh: So if you can afford those luxurious products then what the hell, why not?

I've seen those, too, but in researching some of the products - just their ingredients, you know, researching their ingredients to see what they are supposed to do - lots of the newer expensive ones really do have a leg up - not necessarily the ones that have been featured on shows or whatever. But the good products didn't have bees testicles or whatnot. Usually there is a mix of natural oils with sort of new chemical compounds derived from natural ingredients that the good expensive products have. And yes, sadly, a lot of the expensive products don't have those cool things but are still expensive.
I never buy expensive things in a drug store, really - if I'm going to spend the money, I really look carefully at the ingredients - and usually that means sh*t like LaMer, or in my budget, sh*t that costs $25 at whole foods.
It sucks, but there isn't much that is good between fairly cheap and really high end. But there are a few things that I have found.

SuzeQuze 01-18-2007 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by amber (Post 631620)
True. Witch Hazel as well, though it is a bit more drying. I haven't found even a naturally type cleanser for my skin that does it well, and I still don't think people need to cleanse their face much and strip the oils, but I might try a tea tree oil thing. See how it goes. You, and most others here, have such nice skin that it is hard to translate what might work for me.

Thanks. I think we're hardest on ourselves though. I didn't see your skin like you see it. Plus, the flip side of oily skin is less wrinkles! My ex is half Italian and the women on his Dad's side do not wrinkle readily. For that matter, neither do the men.

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Originally Posted by amber (Post 631620)
I've seen those, too, but in researching some of the products - just their ingredients, you know, researching their ingredients to see what they are supposed to do - lots of the newer expensive ones really do have a leg up - not necessarily the ones that have been featured on shows or whatever. But the good products didn't have bees testicles or whatnot. Usually there is a mix of natural oils with sort of new chemical compounds derived from natural ingredients that the good expensive products have. And yes, sadly, a lot of the expensive products don't have those cool things but are still expensive.
I never buy expensive things in a drug store, really - if I'm going to spend the money, I really look carefully at the ingredients - and usually that means sh*t like LaMer, or in my budget, sh*t that costs $25 at whole foods.
It sucks, but there isn't much that is good between fairly cheap and really high end. But there are a few things that I have found.

Yeah, they often have better ingredients. Lumene has hydrogenated oil in it, yuck. But I am not eating it so I figure that is fine. It has a lot of vitamins and minerals which I figure can't hurt. It does the trick too because my face remains dewey when I wake up. They have all different night creams, I'm not sure what the one I use is exactly called. It probably wouldn't be right for your skin though but I think they have creams for all skin types. I think it was about $20 so you might even be better off with the Whole Paycheck stuff. I'll have to see what TJs has for creams next time I go.

skcin 01-18-2007 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by amber (Post 631595)

But for my shower, I use naturaly almond soap, all made of natural oils and smelly good almondy. Whole Foods. And since I know you'll somehow never buy it, I'm sending you some of that pumpkin sh*t. :)


You don't have to. I also bought an almond scrub form that L'Occitane sale. :nod: Love that too. My face felt soooo smooth afterwards.


Has anyone used Keihls?

amber 01-18-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 631644)
You don't have to. I also bought an almond scrub form that L'Occitane sale. :nod: Love that too. My face felt soooo smooth afterwards.


Has anyone used Keihls?

No, no, I'm sending you the pumpkin fruit peel acid thingy. Seriously, Paula. Seriously.
My friend Rain, who has nice skin, was all "I'm getting these weird zits on my neck, and over on my cheek, and blah blah icky blah". And I gave her some pumpkin stuff, and she was all "It made my skin so smooth and blah, all my zits went away, etc", and she bought a big ol' tub of it.

I have not used Keihls. IMO, less is more when it comes to your face skin. You should let your natural skin oils do as much as possible. I'll never forget that week when I decided not to use soap on my face...magical....but I still totally want to get some La Mer. :laugh:

JazmenFlowers 01-18-2007 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 631542)
I have the same skin type, and I've been using Oil of Olay, this one is for "normal" skin, I use the one for combo skin:

http://www.olay.com/boutique/complete/products/co1005

It's $8 to $9, I really like it! And you should use at least 15 SPF all year 'round, no matter where you live. :nod:

this is what I was going to recommend. it's lovely. nice and light. not greasy. absorbs well and has SPF.

this:
http://img.timeinc.net/instyle/image.../skin_018b.jpg

gldstwmn 01-18-2007 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 631589)
^ I don't care what you say, I am NOT buying a sheep! :D

I did just buy L'Occitane grapeseed shower oil to try. Love it so far. :nod:

L'Occitane is fabulous! My hands and feet get so dry that I use the almond oil on my hands and feet a couple of times a week. Their shea butter hand and feet cream are awesome.

carrie721 01-18-2007 10:45 PM

dove. love it. and it's cheap as fukc.

goldie 01-18-2007 10:54 PM

May I recommend Dove? I use their Sensitive Skin Facial Lotion. Never been happier.

carrie721 01-18-2007 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by goldie (Post 631799)
May I recommend Dove? I use their Sensitive Skin Facial Lotion. Never been happier.

me too! :wavey: actually, i think i use 95% of the products they offer. :laugh:

Livia 01-18-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 631779)
L'Occitane is fabulous! My hands and feet get so dry that I use the almond oil on my hands and feet a couple of times a week. Thier shea butter hand and feet cream are awesome.

I keep a tube of the hand cream on my kitchen sink - and a little dab goes a long way. It's their #1 selling product for a reason, it freakin' ROCKS! And it smells yummy. The lavender one is nice too, but the original one is still my favorite.

As for Kiehl's - Bruce, you're being paged! (He's all about Kiehl's!). I'm in love w/ their abyssine eye cream, and the avocado eye cream too. I've sampled a couple of their face lotions, but didn't really care for them - not as much as the Oil of Olay - Jazzy posted the correct picture for the one I use. Kiehl's has nice masques and shower gels too.

strandinthewind 01-19-2007 12:57 AM

^^^

You also have that creme I sampled in Nashville that smells so heavenly.

bikerchic 01-19-2007 08:16 AM

Tip: When you use hand creme, don't put it into the palm of the hand, squirt it onto the back of your hand and rub the back of your hands together, not the palms (cause they don't need it and it's a waste). Espically if you are using an expensive hand creme. That's your tip for today :D

BlackWidow 01-19-2007 09:29 AM

Use Cetaphil. It is a natural cleanser with built in moisturizers.

JazmenFlowers 01-19-2007 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bikerchic (Post 631858)
Tip: When you use hand creme

speaking of hand cremes...Aveda makes the best hand creme I've ever used...it's Aveda Hand Relief. absorbs quickly and works all day. it's not cheap, but not terribly expensive either and a little goes a long way.

SuzeQuze 01-19-2007 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 631737)
this is what I was going to recommend. it's lovely. nice and light. not greasy. absorbs well and has SPF.

this:
http://img.timeinc.net/instyle/image.../skin_018b.jpg

This is what I've been using for the last 12 years. They should hire me for a commercial I think! ;) The vitamins are something they recently added to the lotion. It really is light and keeps the moisture in your skin. The SPF is the most important component.

BlackWidow 01-19-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 631870)
This is what I've been using for the last 12 years. They should hire me for a commercial I think! ;) The vitamins are something they recently added to the lotion. It really is light and keeps the moisture in your skin. The SPF is the most important component.

Thanks for the tip..Mrs. Kravitz...:shocked: :laugh:

JazmenFlowers 01-19-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 631870)
This is what I've been using for the last 12 years. They should hire me for a commercial I think! ;) The vitamins are something they recently added to the lotion. It really is light and keeps the moisture in your skin. The SPF is the most important component.

you too! I've been using it that long as well, with the occasional gaps when I get an awesome sample of something else or a gift of something else. I even remember when the bottle was a little different.

as for the SPF, I looked for a LONG time to find something that had an SPF but that was light and not greasy. I put this on every morning after I shave before I leave the house so I'm protected every day, all day...hence the fabulous skin. :laugh:

BlackWidow 01-19-2007 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 631873)
you too! I've been using it that long as well, with the occasional gaps when I get an awesome sample of something else or a gift of something else. I even remember when the bottle was a little different.

as for the SPF, I looked for a LONG time to find something that had an SPF but that was light and not greasy. I put this on every morning after I shave before I leave the house so I'm protected every day, all day...hence the fabulous skin. :laugh:

..you are a Top (really a bottom) Model!!!!:thumbsup:

SuzeQuze 01-19-2007 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackWidow (Post 631871)
Thanks for the tip..Mrs. Kravitz...:shocked: :laugh:

You're older than me so bite me, bitch! ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
you too! I've been using it that long as well, with the occasional gaps when I get an awesome sample of something else or a gift of something else. I even remember when the bottle was a little different.

as for the SPF, I looked for a LONG time to find something that had an SPF but that was light and not greasy. I put this on every morning after I shave before I leave the house so I'm protected every day, all day...hence the fabulous skin.

High five! I read about this in some beauty magazine so I was lucky and didn't try a bunch of junk before I found it.

My Nana, at 75, still has beautiful skin. She uses cold cream every night! :eek: :lol: So I guess the key is keep that skin moisturized at night and sun safe during the day.

The one thing I don't like about my skin is the broken capillaries. It runs in my family. I would love to have them taken care of. I need a derma-fund! :laugh: Fortunately a little foundation takes care of it. I bought that foundation you use, Deanna, and I love it. Which means it will be discontinued soon. That is fine though cuz I like to try new products anyway.

BlackWidow 01-19-2007 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 631878)
You're older than me so bite me, bitch! ;)



High five! I read about this in some beauty magazine so I was lucky and didn't try a bunch of junk before I found it.

My Nana, at 75, still has beautiful skin. She uses cold cream every night! :eek: :lol: So I guess the key is keep that skin moisturized at night and sun safe during the day.

The one thing I don't like about my skin is the broken capillaries. It runs in my family. I would love to have them taken care of. I need a derma-fund! :laugh: Fortunately a little foundation takes care of it. I bought that foundation you use, Deanna, and I love it. Which means it will be discontinued soon. That is fine though cuz I like to try new products anyway.

You were all like.."you kids put on your SPF"..and I'm all like
Thanks Mrs Kravitz..and you GO....:rolleyes:

SuzeQuze 01-19-2007 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackWidow (Post 631891)
You were all like.."you kids put on your SPF"..and I'm all like
Thanks Mrs Kravitz..and you GO....:rolleyes:

I know huh? Damn. Now you kids... :p

sara1998 01-19-2007 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackWidow (Post 631891)
Thanks Mrs Kravitz..and you GO....:rolleyes:

OK, old man... who the hell is Mrs. Kravitz?


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