The Tipping Thread...
 

Ok...so it seems that outside of restaurants and haircuts I am tip stupid.

Like I don't know exactly WHO to tip. Do you tip dog groomers? I took my dog to get groomed last weekend, didn't know if you're supposed to tip them -if so how much?

Massages - do you tip your masseuse?

It seems like you're supposed to tip EVERYONE nowadays..I've lost track.

I have no idea about dog groomers, as I've never been to one. And I don't think you need to tip a masseuse, as they are usually self-employed. Oh wait, my husband just told me I am wrong. He used to work in an upscale salon that had masseuses and apparently you ARE supposed to tip them.

I know. I totally agree. I tip pretty good (for good service) but I don't tip everyone. I tip when I get an eyebrow wax (of course!!! :lol: ) and a haircut. But other than that (and food of course) I really don't :( oh, valet. (because I use it so often :laugh: ) but when I do, they get tipped...


*thinking*....hmmmmm..

on edit- bartenders. You tip them well, they will hook you up!! :nod:

Having worked in customer service for most of my life, I tend to tip everyone. And I tip REALLY well when I get good service. However, I probably need to chill out on it. I'm going to pay attention to the rest of this thread so I can see who I can cut out of my tipping list. ;)

Oh Good God. So in addition to paying out the ass for a massage I have to tip them :laugh:

So how much is typical for a massage? do restaurant typing standards apply?

Here's something I found a while back:

http://www.findalink.net/tippingetiquette.php

I pretty much tip everyone 20%. Waiters, cafe workers, guy who cuts my hair, woman who comes and takes care of my cats when I travel. I don't think it matters if they are self-employed. I tip good bartenders very well also; it pays off. Plus they work hard.

if you want good service, tip well! anyone who has ever worked in the restaurant industry will tell you that good tippers are never forgotten, and always get great service.

20% was the norm for me before I came to NZ. 25% if the waiter/waitress was exceptional (i.e. friendly/nice)

Well I'd never think of NOT tipping in a restaurant - but the dog groomer was what I was most curious about. The link Sugar posted said one should tip the dog groomer. Great....I'm an asshole :laugh:

Are you kidding me...You tip anyone in the service industry..BECAUSE..they pay taxes on those services even if you do not tip....

Ex-waiter

Also: drivers
cabs,Massage, hair, nails, restraunts...bartenders..waitresses..waiters.

I know! Listen, quit siding with Jeff. lol

I have been a bartender and waitress my whole life, so believe me, I am the queen of tipping. But there has to be some people I don't have to tip?

....basket guys

ActuallY I am the queen of tipping. ;) Just kidding - but I do always tip generously for all services mentioned...

But the dog groomer that one had me stumped...

My thinking is...why should we even tip, unless they are making $2.50 (approx) an hour...(waitresses ect. ) I mean...I'm sure a massage therapist is making some jack. So why tip them? No one tips me when I make them a fabulous temporary tooth. I've never tipped the person who scanned my groceries at the store. :shrug: How many times have you tipped the wal-mart greeter or your gynocologist/proctologist??



just asking.

I say f*** tipping.

No one tips me when I save their life.

EXACTLY!!!! My point!!! why is it o.k. to tip SOME people but not the rest. I understand if that's where you make the bulk of your cash flow (waiting tables) but everyone else---screw 'em!! I'm cheap I guess.

You're not supposed to tip your gynecologist!?! :eek:


:p

That's what I was sort of getting at...it seems that more and more people are starting to expect tips. And outside of food service and other acceptable tip practices it's starting to annoy me!

I went to a coffe shop recently...I ordered a freakin' cup of regular coffee..that's it. I paid, and as I was putting my change in my wallet the cashier chippy picked up the tip jar shook it, looked in it, gave an exasperated sigh and slammed it back down...

That is NOT going to get me to tip ya girlie...I was not happy by that show and never went back to place...

When I worked at a coffee shop, tips were appreciated, but I never expected them...it seems more and more it is expected, much to my chagrin.

I work at a coffee shop P/T and while yes- tips are appreciated, good Lord, they are not expected. It's not ike I'm making $2 an hour or something. What did you say to the girl who shook the tip jar (that's insane)?

I would have told her to **** off! And Deanna, I always tip my dog groomer. She's awesome. She charges me $25 for cut and wash, and I always give her $30. Not much of a tip, but I always go back, so she knows I like her, and I will always go to her so long as she stays in business.

here's another one i was up against: i stayed at a ritzy hotel a few months ago (travelled with work). how about the guy who stands outside in the morning in a snazzy get up and opens the door of the cab for you? he doesn't hail them - they all just pull in. but this guy stands there and opens the door. ya don't have a choice. i watched everyone in line before me - no one tipped, so i didn't either. if the guy had put six bags in the trunk for me, then sure.

how about my dogwalker? comes in five days a week, and i pay HUGE for the service (but it's so worth it for my sweet dog). i have always just bought a christmas present for him (about $100 in value). am i cheap?

massage: i didn't know. so i asked the receptionist person. she said most people do... so i did.

I'm on overtipper. :shrug:

Oh I've done it on many occasion. If I get crappy service, my server gets either a crappy tip or none at all (depending on the severity of the crappy service). I've had servers who were just flat out rude and many who screwed up my order BIG time - like when I order a virgin daquiri and what they bring me is definitely not virgin, or when I order a veggie burger and they bring me beef (yeah, I know, I go to real upscale restaurants, don't I?).

On the other hand, if a server is very polite and helpful, I leave a generous tip. I've been known to leave a $5.00 tip on an $8.00 order if I'm really impressed with the service (this was at a Mexican restaurant, so the food wasn't expensive). It also doesn't hurt if the server is cute. :laugh:

I totally agree. Tipping has gotten out of control. We're tipping anybody weather they do a good job or not. That is wrong.

I was told, as far as hairdresser's, do not tip if she/he is the owner of the salon.

ITA.

I tip when I feel like it. I know people think I'm bipolar, but I'm just an ass.

Here is what Emily Post says about holiday tipping:

Holiday Etiquette—Holiday Tipping Guidelines—Updated for 2006

The holiday season is the traditional time to say “thank you” and “I appreciate the work you do” to those who have provided service to you throughout the year. Don’t forget that one of the best ways to express your appreciation is a hand-written note, which should accompany any holiday tip.

Whether and how much to tip varies widely, depending on:

the quality and frequency of the service
your relationship with the service provider
where you live (amounts are usually higher in large cities)
the frequency of the service or how long you have worked together
your budget
regional customs
the type of establishment: deluxe vs. moderate

If you regularly tip at the time of service, you may forgo or give a more modest holiday tip. Try to include your child in gift decisions for teachers, day care providers, nannies, and babysitters.

Every situation is different, so let common sense, specific circumstances, and holiday spirit be your guides. The tip amounts in this chart are merely guidelines. What to give is always an individual decision.

Au pair A gift from your family (or one-week’s pay), plus a small gift from your child

Babysitter, regular One evening’s pay, plus a small gift from your child

Barber Cost of one haircut, and/or gift

Beauty salon staff The cost of one salon visit, split among the staff

Child’s teacher Check your school’s policy first. Consider a joint gift with other parents and their children. Give a gift, not cash. Possibilities: gift certificate for coffee shop, book store, or restaurant; book, picture frame, fruit basket or gourmet food item.

Day care providers $25 to $70 each, and/or a small gift from your child for the providers who give direct care to your child(ren)

Dog walker One week’s pay and/or a gift

Fitness trainer, personal Up to the cost of one session

Garage attendants $10 to $30 each

Home health employees A gift, but check with the agency first, as most agencies have a no gifts or no tips policy. If this is the case, consider giving a donation to the agency.

Housekeeper/cleaner Up to one week’s pay and/or a gift

Letter carriers U.S. government regulations permit carriers to accept gifts worth up to $20 per occasion, not cash

Live-in help (Nanny, Housekeeper, Cook, Butler One week’s to one month’s salary based on tenure and customs in your area, plus a personal gift

Massage therapist Up to one session’s fee, and/or gift

Newspaper deliverer $10 to $30

Nurse, private A gift, not cash

Nursing home employees A gift, not cash, but check the company policy first. Consider giving a gift that could be enjoyed by or shared among the floor staff: flowers, chocolates or food items.

Package deliverer A small gift if you receive deliveries regularly; most delivery companies discourage or prohibit cash gifts

Personal caregiver Up to one week’s salary, and/or a small gift

Pet Groomer If the same person grooms your pet all year, up to one session’s fee and/or a gift

Pool cleaner Cost of one cleaning, to be split among crew

Residential building personnel: Check with your building association first to see if there is a holiday fund that is shared among all the building personnel

Superintendent $20 to $80

Doorman $15 to $80; $15 or more each, for multiple doormen

Elevator operator $15 to $40

Handyman $15 to $40

Trash/recycling collectors $10 to $30 each (for private service); for municipal service, check local regulations

Yard and garden worker $20 to $50

http://www.emilypost.com/etiquette/h...ay_tipping.htm
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Here is more info for everyday:

Your Printable Guide to Tipping

RESTAURANTS

Server: 15 to 20 percent of the total bill—20 percent for a first-class place.

Bartender: If you've had a drink at the bar, leave the bartender 15 to 20
percent, or at least $1 a drink.

Coat checker: $1 a coat.

Sommeliers: Optional (they usually get a share of the waiters' take), but if you'd like to tip them separately, you can slip them 10 to 20 percent of the cost of wine, in cash. (Subtract that amount from your total tip.)

Delivery: Tack on 15 percent.

Tip jars: "The level of service a counter employee provides doesn't require a tip," says Peggy Post, head of the Emily Post Institute.

SALONS

Salon owner or stylist: Peggy Post recommends 15 to 20 percent of the fee, whether or not the stylist owns the place.

Multiple stylists: When more than one person (stylist, colorist, blower) attends to you, split 15 to 20 percent among them according to how much each contributed to the outcome.

Shampoo: A basic shampoo and conditioning rates $1 to $3; a wash involving foil removal and color rinses requires a bit more.

Masseuse and manicurist: Slip 15 to 20 percent.

HOTELS

Taxi or limo driver: 15 to 20 percent

Bellhop: $1 a bag

Doorman: $1 for the doorman who hails your cab or fetches your car

Room-service delivery person: 15 to 20 percent of the bill

Housekeeper: $2 a day

Concierge: "You might tip $5 for a dinner reservation, $20 for theater tickets," suggests Sara-ann Kasner, president of the National Concierge Association. "But if someone goes the extra mile—getting you into a popular restaurant at the last minute or obtaining hard-to-get theater tickets—you can tip upwards of $25."

GRATUITY ADVICE FOR THE HOLIDAYS

Nanny: A week's salary plus a small gift from your child.

Babysitter: An evening's pay plus a gift from your child.

Newspaper carrier: $5 to $15.

Mail carrier: Postal workers can accept gifts worth up to $20.

Housekeeper: A week's salary.

Garbage collectors: $10 to $20 each.

Doorman: $25 to $100.

Super: $30 to $100.

Elevator operator: $20 to $50.

Personal trainer: Price of one session.

Parking-garage attendant: One third of monthly bill.

Dog walker: A week's salary.

Hairdresser: $25 to $100.

Manicurist: $10 to $50.

http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/20021..._tipping.jhtml

That's all fine & good, but not everyone can afford to tip so high on everything. :shrug: $70 for day care provider? My sister-in-law can barely afford day care with an assistance program, she sure as hell won't be able to give them an extra $75, esp. around the holidays.

In restaurants, I always tip. I'll go as low as 10% if the service is very bad. We usually do just over 15%, up to 20% if it's excellent service.

I've heard you shouldn't leave nothing because the server will just think you forgot - or that you're an assh*le - and NOT that they gave bad service. A low tip, or a complaint to the manager after the meal is better, IMO.

I usually tip $1 to bartenders each trip to the bar. Coffeeshops, delis, ice cream parlors, and other places where they leave tip jars out on the counter, I'll toss in my change. My haircut only costs $11 so I give her $15 - I'll give her $10 or $20 additonal at Christmas. The paperboy & the mail lady each get $10 at Xmas.

My gyno gets 3x my copay if he does a good job. :cool:

and a free cop if he's cute. right, Paula? don't lie.

I'm like Curty. I don't get a tip when I save my client millions of dollars in legal expenses. hell, I don't get a tip from my firm when I bring in $300,000 each year. and I don't make a quarter of that. what gives? :shrug:

So true, so true...
 

Nurses are always ignored (One way or another) when they do ALL the dirtywork that the asshat doctor won't do.

F off is appropriate under those circumstances! Does your groomer own her business? If so, that is a generous tip since you don't have to tip business owners, just their employees.

Dude. I have a friend who "gets ready" for her gyno cuz she thinks he's hot. She gave herself an enema before she had her kids so she wouldn't poop on the table & embarrass herself in front of him. :shocked:

'Cuz a body coming out of a vagina is soooo hot and attractive. :cool:

Exactly. :rolleyes: Freak.


BTW - Curtis, I think we gave that witress like a 60% tip after breakfast in Cleveland. Of course, the bill for the 4 of us was barely $20.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Now THAT's some funny ****!

I can't stop laughing!

I don't think my gyno is hot, but I do *prepare* for the annual. Just not to that extent. Well, basically I make sure my legs are shaved. :laugh:

I think we tipped more for egg sandwiches than the "fancy" Italian meal we chowed down on (in under an hour :laugh: ) the night before......

Okay, I think that's normal. But an enema? I think if someone's going to that extreme that they would keep it their own little secret. Apparently not Paula's friend!

.....lovely.

I am a great tipper..unless the service is ****!
in most service jobs..those employees are TAXED on those services..it is completely unfair to not tip a service job employee..I mean ..****..I'm from Vegas..You tip!!!!:nod: :nod: :nod:

......nice.