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iamstevienicks 10-20-2006 03:17 PM

Gate and Garden - Love it or Hate it!!
 
Personally it is my favourite Stevie Song :eek:

GODDESS6 10-20-2006 03:27 PM

i worship this song!!!~ especially the lyrics:

It's just a game...that...we...play
Someone steals it...


Someone...steals it away
Scares you to death...~

goldustsongbird 10-20-2006 03:27 PM

eh, not so good. I kind of like the lyrics, though. But the song itself is pretty subpar.

foxyluva 10-20-2006 03:33 PM

^^^ I feel completely the opposite. Some of the lyrics are ridiculous, but the melody is amazing. A song I love to sing along to :)

iamstevienicks 10-20-2006 03:35 PM

Yes Yes Yes it is the melody that I LOVE, aswell as the very very very catchy chorus

God I wish she had done this live :(

SpyNote 10-20-2006 03:39 PM

It's kind of a forgotten track, but I enjoy it. I like the the vocal throughout, especially in the outro.

"Do IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII love you" :woohoo:

goldustsongbird 10-20-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 585200)
^^^ I feel completely the opposite. Some of the lyrics are ridiculous, but the melody is amazing. A song I love to sing along to :)

Yeah? I only really like the "so to the red rose, grows the passion" part. :shrug: The melody does nothing for me. Most of the WH album does nothing for me, except serve as a way to knock me out before bedtime.

JazmenFlowers 10-20-2006 03:42 PM

I really like it once it kicks in. the harmonies, the melody - just make me smile.


WOOOAHHHH DO I LOOOOOOOVE YOUUUU! AHAAAAA!

iamstevienicks 10-20-2006 03:43 PM

It is a very poppy stevie song, which is what I personally love about it

foxyluva 10-20-2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 585216)
Yeah? I only really like the "so to the red rose, grows the passion" part. :shrug: The melody does nothing for me. Most of the WH album does nothing for me, except serve as a way to knock me out before bedtime.

:laugh: I HAVE heard alot of people say WH is boring. And to be honest, I did not like the album when I first got it - it took me a good six months to finally realise it's majesty. It sort of just clicked...

iamstevienicks 10-20-2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 585218)
I really like it once it kicks in. the harmonies, the melody - just make me smile.


WOOOAHHHH DO I LOOOOOOOVE YOUUUU! AHAAAAA!

I listened to it on repeat this morning on my way to work and smiled all the way there :)

goldustsongbird 10-20-2006 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 585221)
:laugh: I HAVE heard alot of people say WH is boring. And to be honest, I did not like the album when I first got it - it took me a good six months to finally realise it's majesty. It sort of just clicked...

It's a snooze, babe. I only bought it because it was there... and under ten bucks.

JazmenFlowers 10-20-2006 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 585230)
It's a snooze, babe. I only bought it because it was there... and under ten bucks.

oh - my.heart.breaks. :distress:

:laugh:

goldustsongbird 10-20-2006 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 585235)
oh - my.heart.breaks. :distress:

:laugh:

:p If it helps, I sort of like RAL. And I have it on vinyl!

foxyluva 10-20-2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 585230)
It's a snooze, babe. I only bought it because it was there... and under ten bucks.

If you keep an open mind, you'll come around - seriously - it happend to me :)

goldustsongbird 10-20-2006 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 585261)
If you keep an open mind, you'll come around - seriously - it happend to me :)

Hmm... maybe. If you'll do it for I Drove All Night, I'll give WH another spin.
:D :wavey:

foxyluva 10-20-2006 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 585262)
Hmm... maybe. If you'll do it for I Drove All Night, I'll give WH another spin.
:D :wavey:

Its a deal :laugh:

ELIUD 10-20-2006 05:11 PM

The "Do I love you?" parts at the end make the song for me. It's gorgeus and I love it.

sparky 10-20-2006 08:05 PM

Hate it.
It's about nothing and it never really goes anywhere.
I still remember the first time I heard it thinking "WTF?"

paleshadow 10-20-2006 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky (Post 585383)
Hate it.
It's about nothing and it never really goes anywhere.
I still remember the first time I heard it thinking "WTF?"


Actually, if you listen carefully to the words it pretty much parallels the story of Beauty and the Beast. The garden was gaurded by the beast. Beauty's father picked the red rose for her. In the story, the Beast repeatedly asked Beauty "Do you love me?" to which she always answered no, until the end. "Do I love you"?

BlackWidow 10-20-2006 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by paleshadow (Post 585392)
Actually, if you listen carefully to the words it pretty much parallels the story of Beauty and the Beast. The garden was gaurded by the beast. Beauty's father picked the red rose for her. In the story, the Beast repeatedly asked Beauty "Do you love me?" to which she always answered no, until the end. "Do I love you"?

That's a "Real Long Way To GO"!!!:laugh:

Musicman408 10-20-2006 09:27 PM

Well I mean, G and G Is a very good song, but it isn't really, in my opinion, on of her elite, but it is very good none the less.....

Much Love,
Ethan

paleshadow 10-20-2006 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackWidow (Post 585396)
That's a "Real Long Way To GO"!!!:laugh:

You must not be that familiar with the fairy tale. The lyrics fit very well within it's context.

sparky 10-20-2006 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paleshadow (Post 585392)
Actually, if you listen carefully to the words it pretty much parallels the story of Beauty and the Beast. The garden was gaurded by the beast. Beauty's father picked the red rose for her. In the story, the Beast repeatedly asked Beauty "Do you love me?" to which she always answered no, until the end. "Do I love you"?

:shocked: Wow. That's a stretch. Admit it, you're really Stevie. Or at the very least you're on Klonopin.

paleshadow 10-20-2006 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky (Post 585415)
:shocked: Wow. That's a stretch. Admit it, you're really Stevie. Or at the very least you're on Klonopin.


Nah, a stretch would be that Sable on Blonde is about Rhiannon. Which in a way the two are connected. In Sable on Blonde there is the line that goes "In silence she says 'Excalibur'". If you are familiar with Arthurian legend you'll know that Vivian or "The Lady in the Lake" who was the keeper of Excalibur translates from older legend as none other than Rhiannon. I'm not saying that I... I mean Stevie;) consciously wrote Gate and Garden about Beauty and the Beast, but since Stevie has been known to "borrow" directly from authors and we know that Beauty and the Beast is her favorite story, and given the similarity between the lyrics and text from the story, it isn't a stretch at all to think that she would be inspired by it.

sparky 10-20-2006 10:09 PM

Well, there are only seven stories, so it's easy to loosely connect a lot of her things. I'm familiar with all the source material, but I don't agree with the idea that those songs are really connected. And I still think Gate and Garden is an incoherent mess.:shrug: :laugh:



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Originally Posted by paleshadow (Post 585428)
Nah, a stretch would be that Sable on Blonde is about Rhiannon. Which in a way the two are connected. In Sable on Blonde there is the line that goes "In silence she says 'Excalibur'". If you are familiar with Arthurian legend you'll know that Vivian or "The Lady in the Lake" who was the keeper of Excalibur translates from older legend as none other than Rhiannon. I'm not saying that I... I mean Stevie;) consciously wrote Gate and Garden about Beauty and the Beast, but since Stevie has been known to "borrow" directly from authors and we know that Beauty and the Beast is her favorite story, and given the similarity between the lyrics and text from the story, it isn't a stretch at all to think that she would be inspired by it.


EveryHour 10-20-2006 10:29 PM

Top Ten for me.

Miss Vicky 10-20-2006 11:40 PM

Never liked it.

There's a gate, it can be gaurded, well it is not heaven and it has a garden... :rolleyes:

:eek:

Ghost_Tracker 10-21-2006 04:05 AM

I absolutely love it, personally.! :thumbsup:

Actually, to be honest, I think it's literally genius - i.m.o. Gate and Garden is actually Stevie's raciest song, believe it or not. Read a certain way, it's got TONS of sexual symbolism in it. I think, personally, that that's what it's really about; and I feel it's very well-done and very clever. :shocked:

I also feel that it's just plain a nice song to listen to, and very beautiful. :nod:


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