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iamstevienicks 10-16-2006 02:55 PM

Weight loss thread
 
Anyone up for some healthy competition?

Post a starting weight and kick some ass with the flab!!

This will be my 933rd diet! But this time I mean business :p

Its my first weigh in tomorrow :( started at 16st 5 pounds, I better lose at least two tomorrow :p

SuzeQuze 10-16-2006 03:58 PM

This might be just what I need. I'll get on the scale and update this later with whether or not I've lost/gained in the past week.

On edit: I'm down 1 1/2 pounds. But since I was up a pound last week I will count it as -.05.

amber 10-16-2006 04:00 PM

What do we win?

HomerMcvie 10-16-2006 04:16 PM

I just don't care anymore. My body WANTS to be 25 lbs overweight. I CAN lose it, but keeping it off requires CONSTANT effort, running 3 nights a week, and eating F*CKING Lean Sh*Tsine every night.
And the weird thing about the extra 25 is- I don't gain anymore than that. My body apparently is at home at 185. As much as I enjoyed 160, HONESTLY, it wasn't worth all the extra work(well, I did get laid a little more, without trying, but still....).
At the end of the day, nobody's gonna love you any more, just because you're in great shape.

Now, I eat what I want.
I drink what I want.
I don't get any bigger.
And I'm okay with that!:thumbsup:

SuzeQuze 10-16-2006 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 583131)
I just don't care anymore. My body WANTS to be 25 lbs overweight. I CAN lose it, but keeping it off requires CONSTANT effort, running 3 nights a week, and eating F*CKING Lean Sh*Tsine every night.
And the weird thing about the extra 25 is- I don't gain anymore than that. My body apparently is at home at 185. As much as I enjoyed 160, HONESTLY, it wasn't worth all the extra work(well, I did get laid a little more, without trying, but still....).
At the end of the day, nobody's gonna love you any more, just because you're in great shape.

Now, I eat what I want.
I drink what I want.
I don't get any bigger.
And I'm okay with that!:thumbsup:

Yeah, welcome to set point. I have to at least do something though or I hate the way I feel and look. My body likes to be at this weight too, well 10 lbs heavier actually. But I don't! Maybe I can teach it. I seriously don't have the energy for 6 days at the gym and god bless those of you who do!

cliffdweller 10-16-2006 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 583131)
I just don't care anymore. My body WANTS to be 25 lbs overweight. I CAN lose it, but keeping it off requires CONSTANT effort, running 3 nights a week, and eating F*CKING Lean Sh*Tsine every night.
And the weird thing about the extra 25 is- I don't gain anymore than that. My body apparently is at home at 185. As much as I enjoyed 160, HONESTLY, it wasn't worth all the extra work(well, I did get laid a little more, without trying, but still....).
At the end of the day, nobody's gonna love you any more, just because you're in great shape.

Now, I eat what I want.
I drink what I want.
I don't get any bigger.
And I'm okay with that!:thumbsup:

Yeah, well, it's not just about how you look. I know that I feel much better when I work out than when I don't. Don't you want to feel healthy, strong, and energetic? Adult onset Diabetes runs in my family, so I don't play around with my weight; I don't want some horrible lifelong disease due to something i can control.

JazmenFlowers 10-16-2006 04:58 PM

god. I don't have the energy. and this was going to be my week to crack down even further. I will be working late again tonight (although overtime is "discouraged") and I don't know that I'll have the energy to walk 2 miles tonight. maybe I'll just do weights.

amber 10-16-2006 04:58 PM

I'm doing a simultaneous fast and colon cleanse, so I'd probably win. Did you know your colon can store pounds and pounds and pounds of toxic crap? Yep. Good times. Gross, good times.

JazmenFlowers 10-16-2006 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by amber (Post 583145)
I'm doing a simultaneous fast and colon cleanse, so I'd probably win. Did you know your colon can store pounds and pounds and pounds of toxic crap? Yep. Good times. Gross, good times.

I have a "friend" doing that and she was telling me about it. she's doing something where she drinks like 2 cups of olive oil and lays on one side...something else weird, but I forgot. good luck with that! :thumbsup:

sparky 10-16-2006 05:06 PM

I will do weigh in on Friday. Too much work the last week, and only swam about 3 times. But I seriously need to drop 10 pounds, maybe 15. I feel slothlike and am just not f*ckable, IMO. The odd thing is...the last few months it hasn't mattered in terms of what other guys think. I can't figure that out. They always want seconds.:shrug:

Bottom line, though, the 32 waist pants are gettin too snug. And I am NOT buying a new wardrobe.

Posting weight in 4 days.

sparky 10-16-2006 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by amber (Post 583145)
I'm doing a simultaneous fast and colon cleanse, so I'd probably win. Did you know your colon can store pounds and pounds and pounds of toxic crap? Yep. Good times. Gross, good times.

That sounds like a whole mess of conshohocken

amber 10-16-2006 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky (Post 583152)
That sounds like a whole mess of conshohocken

It sure is. Wanna see pics? In some autopsies they have found colons that weigh 40 lbs. Also, colons that were 9 inches in diameter but with just a pinhole size opening.
Yep. Lots of people have been cured of lots of things with colon cleansing, too. And fasting. I recommend checking out the research.

Oh, and P.S., I was at 149 this morning.

amber 10-16-2006 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 583148)
I have a "friend" doing that and she was telling me about it. she's doing something where she drinks like 2 cups of olive oil and lays on one side...something else weird, but I forgot. good luck with that! :thumbsup:

I'm doing the Master Cleanser for the fast, and got an herbal colon cleansing kit, with the psyllium seed husks, and the bentonite clay, and various other herbs. All the usual suspects.

Here's just one site talking about the Master Cleanser, there are several. I had a friend who did it, too, and she was amazed and renewed. She did 30 days!

http://www.therawfoodsite.com/mastercleanse.htm

DrummerDeanna 10-16-2006 05:17 PM

My weight loss is going quite slow - but that's the best way...easier for maintenance in the long-run and I know I'm being healthy so the feeling I have now far outweighs the fact that I'm losing so damn slow.

I'd rather not post my weight...but my goal weight is between 130 and 135.

According to health sites my "ideal" weight is 122 - that is NEVER going to happen ..I can't even imagine how gross I'd look....

I was 132 before I gained and I looked fantastic. I was firm and fit and felt great - I want to get back there.

JazmenFlowers 10-16-2006 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by amber (Post 583157)
I'm doing the Master Cleanser for the fast, and got an herbal colon cleansing kit, with the psyllium seed husks, and the bentonite clay, and various other herbs. All the usual suspects.

Here's just one site talking about the Master Cleanser, there are several. I had a friend who did it, too, and she was amazed and renewed. She did 30 days!

http://www.therawfoodsite.com/mastercleanse.htm

holy conshohocken. 30 days! wow. ok, I'll have to read up. thx for the link.

hayley 10-16-2006 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amber (Post 583157)
I'm doing the Master Cleanser for the fast, and got an herbal colon cleansing kit, with the psyllium seed husks, and the bentonite clay, and various other herbs. All the usual suspects.

Here's just one site talking about the Master Cleanser, there are several. I had a friend who did it, too, and she was amazed and renewed. She did 30 days!

http://www.therawfoodsite.com/mastercleanse.htm

I did 22 days a couple of years ago. At the beginning I had to plug my nose to drink that ****, and by the end I was craving it.

amber 10-16-2006 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hayley (Post 583161)
I did 22 days a couple of years ago. At the beginning I had to plug my nose to drink that ****, and by the end I was craving it.

You mean the Master Cleanse drink?

How did you feel? 22 days is a long time. I like the taste pretty well. I've found it hard to fast previously, though, I'm really going to bear down this time. They say after the second day you feel better.

hayley 10-16-2006 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by amber (Post 583162)
You mean the Master Cleanse drink?

How did you feel? 22 days is a long time. I like the taste pretty well.

Yup, the good old Master Cleanser. I got teased so mercilessly for doing it, mainly because it sounds so gross/ridiculous. The worst part for me at the beginning was the headaches- I think they might have been caffeine headaches, but I'm not sure. I had a constant headache and was lightheaded for the first five days or so, but after that was fine.

I felt great after it. I started it after I quit drinking due to liver problems. (Go hep go!) My body was in a really terrible place and I felt really great after the M.C.

sparky 10-16-2006 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by amber (Post 583162)
They say after the second day you feel better.

After two days, I'm not even hungry. It's hard to do it while working, though.

JazmenFlowers 10-16-2006 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky (Post 583166)
After two days, I'm not even hungry. It's hard to do it while working, though.

but doesn't this go against the whole "it will slow your metabolism and make you store fat" idea? not accusing, just asking.

amber 10-16-2006 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayley (Post 583165)
Yup, the good old Master Cleanser. I got teased so mercilessly for doing it, mainly because it sounds so gross/ridiculous. The worst part for me at the beginning was the headaches- I think they might have been caffeine headaches, but I'm not sure. I had a constant headache and was lightheaded for the first five days or so, but after that was fine.

I felt great after it. I started it after I quit drinking due to liver problems. (Go hep go!) My body was in a really terrible place and I felt really great after the M.C.

Oh, that's great! Glad to know another person got good results. Wow, five days, you must have been pretty toxic. ;) :p JK, of course.
I hope I don't get the headache. So far, so good. I only drink about a half cup of coffee a day, though.

sparky 10-16-2006 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 583167)
but doesn't this go against the whole "it will slow your metabolism and make you store fat" idea? not accusing, just asking.

I don't know how it works in terms of storing fat or changing matabolism. Just saying that as the fast goes on, my hunger goes away.

amber 10-16-2006 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 583167)
but doesn't this go against the whole "it will slow your metabolism and make you store fat" idea? not accusing, just asking.

I thought so too, but if you research fasting, you'll see the benefits are numerous and important. Fasting helps you eat more healthfully after you finish fasting, too. besides, most people eat way, way too much, it never gives your body a chance to rest and replenish its cells. To heal, itself, if you will, and flush toxins.

JazmenFlowers 10-16-2006 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky (Post 583169)
I don't know how it works in terms of storing fat or changing matabolism. Just saying that as the fast goes on, my hunger goes away.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amber (Post 583170)
I thought so too, but if you research fasting, you'll see the benefits are numerous and important. Fasting helps you eat more healthfully after you finish fasting, too. besides, most people eat way, way too much, it never gives your body a chance to rest and replenish its cells. To heal, itself, if you will, and flush toxins.

oh, I see.

amber 10-16-2006 05:34 PM

Hayley - did you do the sea salt flush as well? I know you don't have to do that with it, but it helps cleanse the colon. Oh, also, Hayley - did you ease back into a regular but more healthful diet in the manner that they recommend? You know, slowly?

BTFLCHLD 10-16-2006 05:34 PM

the "hot bowel movements" is enough to suggest run don't walk.

amber 10-16-2006 05:39 PM

Here's a snippet from one site:

"Detoxifying literally means removing poisons from your body. Once these poisons are gone, you will feel energetic, vital, happy and healthy. It is the poisons that make us feel tired, mentally confused, irritable, unhappy, depressed and ill. Consequently you should look forward to detoxification.

Unfortunately, when the toxins are mobilized, they will bring about those unpleasant feelings and tempt you to quit the cleanse before you are through. So, you need to understand the symptoms of detoxification and ensure that you drink your laxative tea and salt water to stimulate elimination of those toxins.

My experience with the cleanse and with various people doing it has taught me that whatever symptom I experienced one day, it would be gone the next morning with my bowel movements. It is nevertheless helpful to know when you are detoxifying because it helps you to get through that symptom to know it will be gone tomorrow.

I have grouped the detox symptoms I and others have had into five groups:

Cravings — I have only known one or two people to be hungry on this cleanse. Drinking more lemonade or water handles that. I have, however, observed that people on the cleanse crave what they are detoxifying. Proof that this is true is that the cravings usually go away the next morning with bowel movements. You can crave anything when detoxifying, but most likely you will experience cravings for the most toxic foods, such as pizza, hamburgers, barbeque ribs, etc.
Tiredness — When your body fights toxins, whether from detoxifying or an infection, it diverts energy into healing and away from the energy you use to work and play. On my first 20 day cleanse, I was not tired except on the fifteenth day. The next morning, I experienced heat in my bowel movements, an indication that acidic toxins were being eliminated. I also lost all sense of tiredness.
Irritability — This includes the desire to "just chew something solid."
Physical aches, pains, nausea, vomiting, etc. — These are the most severe reactions and only occur where a person is severely toxic, only a small percentage of people experience these. Fortunately, these have gone away after only a day or two in every case I have heard about.
Hot bowel movements — Your body wastes are acidic and when you eliminate the most toxic ones, they actually feel anywhere from warm to burning. This experience is very infrequent, but worth mentioning because hot bowel movements after a day of heavy detox symptoms will confirm that you just eliminated significant toxins.

A Special Note on Headaches
In talking to people doing the cleanse, I've learned that people with caffeine addiction (coffee, soft drinks, etc.) may experience headaches for the first 2 to 4 days.

Final Note
I hope you will have the same wonderful increase in mental clarity, health, energy and positive mental attitude that I and others have found.

If you have been a meat eater and/or milk products consumer, shift to cooked vegetable soup on the afternoon of the second day and a salad for dinner. Keep the lemonade drink as your breakfast drink after that. Of course, you would do better with the least amount of meat and no milk products as they are very productive of mucus and hinder digestion and absorption of nutrients."

DrummerDeanna 10-16-2006 05:41 PM

I'm intruiged by this fast/clense concept...I'll read more about it this evening after work....

I've actually never heard of that...

HomerMcvie 10-16-2006 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 583132)
Yeah, welcome to set point. I have to at least do something though or I hate the way I feel and look. My body likes to be at this weight too, well 10 lbs heavier actually. But I don't! Maybe I can teach it. I seriously don't have the energy for 6 days at the gym and god bless those of you who do!

Oh, I don't particularly LIKE it, but, when I weigh(no pun intended) all the pros and cons, IMO, it's just not worth ALL that work.
I do TONS of yardwork and the like, and go out of my way to walk to do things, so it's not like I'm sedentary.
Hell, NO ONE can keep up with me walking. People hate going shopping with me, because I won't walk their granny speed!

michelle2677 10-16-2006 05:49 PM

About a year ago I worked out about 3 x per week (sometimes more) and started weight watchers and I lost nothing. So I say "Screw it". My clothes didn't fit any different and I felt no different. I've basically decided that I'm never going to be miss america material so I don't really care. I am looking into getting a stationary bike, though, just to keep somewhat active. I tried the belly dancing routine and stopped after the second attempt. I had my little "belly dancing" outfit and everything. Oh well. :shrug:


Good luck to those that are doing it though!!:thumbsup:

DrummerDeanna 10-16-2006 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 583179)
About a year ago I worked out about 3 x per week (sometimes more) and started weight watchers and I lost nothing. So I say "Screw it". My clothes didn't fit any different and I felt no different. I've basically decided that I'm never going to be miss america material so I don't really care. I am looking into getting a stationary bike, though, just to keep somewhat active. I tried the belly dancing routine and stopped after the second attempt. I had my little "belly dancing" outfit and everything. Oh well. :shrug:


Good luck to those that are doing it though!!:thumbsup:

I know that story all too well - I joined WW and have been exercising - last week I did 6 days!!! LOST NOTHING :mad:

I'm so annoyed and I feel like I'm being gyped outta my money because I'm not seeing any results....ok I AM but just really really really slowly.

I'm completely frustrated by it - but I refuse to give up because I don't want to go on feeling fat and lazy. Sigh.

michelle2677 10-16-2006 06:18 PM

well..the only good thing about losing it slow is...I guess it's harder to put back on. Or at least that is what I've heard.

Oh..I lost about 20 lbs back in the winter last year. Actually more like 25. But it wasn't good. It was all stress and so forth. I was down to size 4 or a 6 (yah!!) hahaha..but I gained it all back, and then some. I really don't care at this point. Yeah, I'd like to be all skinny, and hot. But it's not worth it for me. I like food too much!!! :nod:

DrummerDeanna 10-16-2006 06:22 PM

^^

I will never be what society considers "skinny" But I don't really like skinny -so I'm fine with that.

I know losing slowly is better than losing way fast - and losing by unhealthy means. So that thoughts keeps me from completely throwing in the towel.

That and just two years ago I looked fab...and felt fab..and now I just don't. But I'm gettin' there :D

SuzeQuze 10-16-2006 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 583177)
Oh, I don't particularly LIKE it, but, when I weigh(no pun intended) all the pros and cons, IMO, it's just not worth ALL that work.
I do TONS of yardwork and the like, and go out of my way to walk to do things, so it's not like I'm sedentary.
Hell, NO ONE can keep up with me walking. People hate going shopping with me, because I won't walk their granny speed!

I love what you said though about at the end of the day no one's going to love you more for being 20 lbs lighter. I guess it's about balance.

Regarding cleansing, schedule a colonoscopy and take the sodium laxative. That'll take care of you right away! No 30 days necessary! OR, have about 6 -7 draught beers. :laugh:

SuzeQuze 10-16-2006 07:25 PM

Think of weight loss as a side effect of a lifestyle that makes you feel good. That's a Dr. Weil thing. It's a state of mind I haven't yet mastered!

foxyluva 10-16-2006 07:26 PM

Im working out, not to lose weight, but to bulk up - since I only weigh 60kg (130lbs) I really cannot afford to lose anymore :laugh:

SuzeQuze 10-16-2006 07:34 PM

Also remember that there are 3 basic body types:

Ectomorph - the "naturally skinny" type like Gwyneth Paltrow who are very slender.

Mesomorph - the muscular type who find it easier to gain muscle mass like Madonna.

Endomorph - the type with a tendency to store body fat like J. Lo.

Most people that have a really hard time with weight loss are endomorphs and are literally hard-wired to store body fat. So ease up on yourselves, man! Or woman! And don't compare yourself to those other types (the bastards).

DrummerDeanna 10-16-2006 07:44 PM

^^

I'm thinking I'm the last one. I really am trying harder to like myself for who I am - and not compare myself to others...something I do way way too much of.

I like the way of thinking you bring up, of just living a lifestyle that makes you feel good - hopefully the benefits will follow.

changing one's mindset seems to be one of the more difficult things in life- it sure is for me! And I don't know when I started being so damn hard on myself - but it really needs to stop. I'm working on it :D

HomerMcvie 10-17-2006 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 583221)
I love what you said though about at the end of the day no one's going to love you more for being 20 lbs lighter. I guess it's about balance.

Well, isn't that the reason alot of people lose weight? The DREAM of....THAT's what's holding them back. Most of the time, it just ain't so. To quote Popeye, and the spoiled brat, "I am what I am.......ak, ak, ak, ak, ak.....".
Once you've gotten skinny, and re-evalutate your, now skinny life, you realize that nothing's really changed(cept you probably get laid more=BIG FN DEAL).

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 583221)
Regarding cleansing, schedule a colonoscopy and take the sodium laxative. That'll take care of you right away! No 30 days necessary! OR, have about 6 -7 draught beers. :laugh:

On the colonoscopy, I think I'll wait until the necessary age.
On the draught- hell, that's already part of my diet!:blob2: :blob2: :blob2:

tuigirl 10-17-2006 12:55 AM

So...what are you all doing to loose weight?? fasting? this colon cleansing thing? Are you all going to the gym, eating healthier food etc? Good luck to everyone. Isn't it Ramadan this month? I think thats quite a good way to go actually..don't they eat (and then not a huge meal) only after dark (they can drink, during daylight though).


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