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TheWILDheart 09-29-2006 04:25 PM

What's going on with Greatest Hits and Time?
 
I seem to be seeing the 1988 "Greatest Hits" EVERYWHERE and dirt cheap recently. Also, I've seen a few coppies of "Time" here and there which is rare. Anybody else in the UK noticed this and does anyone have any reason for it? "Greatest Hits" was in Asda and HMV for £2.99 and time was in Virgin and Music Zone for £6.99. Any ideas?

innocentthing 10-04-2006 07:17 AM

Hello Everybody!!

I'm a uk newbie and somewhat longtime lurker! Hoping to have some good fun here on the ledge.

Yes I have noticed this too. I recently got my GH cd for £2.67 duty free at the airport! Beat that! I now have No Questions Asked on cd for the first time, my life is complete:lol:

Theyre selling Time space in HMV for £5.00 and RAL US import for 8. Needless to say I got both! :lol:

BTW, When was the last time anyone saw SA on the shelves anywhere? I was beginning to think it might have been deleted!!

HomerMcvie 10-04-2006 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by innocentthing (Post 577521)
I now have No Questions Asked on cd for the first time

Shudder.:(








:lol: :lol: :lol:

mikeschmike 10-04-2006 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by innocentthing (Post 577521)
I now have No Questions Asked on cd for the first time, my life is complete:lol:

It truly is.

Welcome!

DavidMn 10-04-2006 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 577570)
Shudder.:(








:lol: :lol: :lol:

I have to say I agree with you Homie.

foxyluva 10-04-2006 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by innocentthing (Post 577521)
BTW, When was the last time anyone saw SA on the shelves anywhere? I was beginning to think it might have been deleted!!

It is deleted...

SpyNote 10-04-2006 05:48 PM

Best-of sets usually fall in the "midline" category. These are albums that are sold for less but are still highly desirable. Artists who have stood the test of time usually have a good part of their catalog in the midline market. This is why certain albums keep selling for years and years.

michelle2677 10-04-2006 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 577570)
Shudder.:(








:lol: :lol: :lol:

what the hell are you shuddering about??!! I happen to LOVE that song. It's on my no-skip cd. :p

innocentthing-don't let these negative comments bother you!! You go on with No Questions Asked!!!

*humming....* "when I seeeee him.....I feeeel him...."

heehee....:D

chiliD 10-05-2006 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 577762)
what the hell are you shuddering about??!! I happen to LOVE that song.

Just goes to show...not everybody has the same taste in music.

Let's remember that Disco, Rap/Hip-Hop, & Opera have fans, too.

And, let's be honest. "No Questions Asked" is NOT one of Stevie's better tunes. (but it IS quite a bit better than "The Second Time")

TheWILDheart 10-05-2006 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 577979)
(but it IS quite a bit better than "The Second Time")

I love The Second Time, No Questions Asked and Paper Doll (which other Ledgie's seem to hate). And you call yourselves fans...

mind you, I take it chiliD is a RAL fan? Says it all really. I can't STAND RAL!!

chiliD 10-05-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWILDheart (Post 578179)
I love The Second Time, No Questions Asked and Paper Doll (which other Ledgie's seem to hate). And you call yourselves fans...

mind you, I take it chiliD is a RAL fan? Says it all really. I can't STAND RAL!!

I'm a Fleetwood Mac fan. Stevie solo? Not so much. But, yeah, what was Side 2 of the Rock A Little LP, to me, was the best stuff Stevie's done solo (and, I agree with you about Side 1...with the exception of "I Can't Wait"...too bad that didn't replace "The Nightmare" on Side 2...thank God for being able to program CDs). TISL is her best overall album, to my ears. And, OSOTM should never have been made, it is a waste of the material it was made from (with the exception of "Rooms On Fire"...that was phenomenal).

michelle2677 10-05-2006 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 577979)
Just goes to show...not everybody has the same taste in music.

Let's remember that Disco, Rap/Hip-Hop, & Opera have fans, too.

And, let's be honest. "No Questions Asked" is NOT one of Stevie's better tunes. (but it IS quite a bit better than "The Second Time")

oh yeah, I totally get that-I was just teasing him.

And I agree that it is not her best, but I relate to that song, so that is why I love it so :D

foxyluva 10-05-2006 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 578184)
OSOTM should never have been made, it is a waste of the material it was made from

I feel the exact same way about "Time" - what a pointless venture...

mylittledemon 10-05-2006 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 578184)
TISL is her best overall album, to my ears. And, OSOTM should never have been made, it is a waste of the material it was made from (with the exception of "Rooms On Fire"...that was phenomenal).

Agreed on TISL, although Bella Donna is a close 2nd for me. Maybe even a tie. OSOTM is not a favourite of mine either...except for Ooh my Love and Rooms on Fire.

GODDESS6 10-06-2006 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 578318)
I feel the exact same way about "Time" - what a pointless venture...

i own time, i have never listened to it, it came free w/ something else mac related that i had bought~ as a chiffonhead, i just can't seem to bring myself to listen to a mac line-up w/out stevie in it:shrug: ~ is it any good?, should i give it a whirl?~

HomerMcvie 10-06-2006 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 578318)
I feel the exact same way about "Time" - what a pointless venture...

That's your opinion. Perhaps you're right......FM should've never tried to reinvent themselves. What a mistake to make. Had they never tried that, your Stevy would still be a waitress at the IHOP!
:blob1: :blob2: :laugh: :lol: :woohoo:

chiliD 10-06-2006 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GODDESS6 (Post 578406)
i own time, i have never listened to it, it came free w/ something else mac related that i had bought~ as a chiffonhead, i just can't seem to bring myself to listen to a mac line-up w/out stevie in it:shrug: ~ is it any good?, should i give it a whirl?~

It's Fleetwood Mac, hell yes it's good. That's the thing about Fleetwood Mac, you can trust that the music will be good regardless of personnel. Sure, there might be a song or two on each album that doesn't strike your fancy, but overall, there's really no such thing as a "bad Fleetwood Mac album".

chiliD 10-06-2006 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 578437)
That's your opinion. Perhaps you're right......FM should've never tried to reinvent themselves. What a mistake to make. Had they never tried that, your Stevy would still be a waitress at the IHOP!
:blob1: :blob2: :laugh: :lol: :woohoo:

Or a cleaning lady.

And, Fleetwood Mac would've ended in May 1970.

TheWILDheart 10-06-2006 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 578318)
I feel the exact same way about "Time" - what a pointless venture...

I agree. OSOTM, although not her best, was a very good album IMO. I love Stevie solo more so than mac but I do love mac too. TISL and Bella Donna are my fav 2 albums ever made. I have pretty much everything released that Stevie/Mac have done since 1975. I love everything of Stevie's except RAL and 25% of Street Angel was abysmal. Time was a COMPLETE waste of money, energy and basically pretty crap. Everything else kicks ASS!

TheWILDheart 10-06-2006 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GODDESS6 (Post 578406)
i own time, i have never listened to it, it came free w/ something else mac related that i had bought~ as a chiffonhead, i just can't seem to bring myself to listen to a mac line-up w/out stevie in it:shrug: ~ is it any good?, should i give it a whirl?~

Hello fellow chiffonhead. I'm sort of a junior chiffonhead though lol. Time- NO!! STAY WELL CLEAR!! It is AWFUL!! 1. it's Stevie-less 2. Christine's songs are so unmemorable 3. Bekka Bramlett tries to impersonate Stevie at several places on the album 4. Did i mention it's Stevie-less?

It's a good album to listen to whilst doing housework i.e. you can hardly hear it cos of the vacuum lol. It's so same-ey. It just drones on and on and on it's one of those that you can't wait for it to end. The worst thing about it is the fact that I actually payed £8.99 for it about 3 or 4 years ago. I WANT MY MONEY BACK!! RIP OFF!!

foxyluva 10-06-2006 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GODDESS6 (Post 578406)
i own time, i have never listened to it, it came free w/ something else mac related that i had bought~ as a chiffonhead, i just can't seem to bring myself to listen to a mac line-up w/out stevie in it:shrug: ~ is it any good?, should i give it a whirl?~

Its not an awful album - its pretty tidy, but its nothing exciting or new either :shrug:

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 578437)
That's your opinion. Perhaps you're right......FM should've never tried to reinvent themselves. What a mistake to make. Had they never tried that, your Stevy would still be a waitress at the IHOP!

It has nothing to do with Fleetwood Mac reinventing themselves - but they went around it the wrong way. The album had no promotion, so what did they expect? For it to be a new defining moment for them :rolleyes:

As far as I am personally concerned - replacing Stevie with Bekka was a big mistake. I don't believe Fleetwood Mac should ever have any other female members other than Christine & Stevie - I would feel the exact same way about "Time" if Stevie was involved and Christine was replaced with Bekka.

Just my opinion...

GODDESS6 10-06-2006 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWILDheart (Post 578521)
Hello fellow chiffonhead. I'm sort of a junior chiffonhead though lol. Time- NO!! STAY WELL CLEAR!! It is AWFUL!! 1. it's Stevie-less 2. Christine's songs are so unmemorable 3. Bekka Bramlett tries to impersonate Stevie at several places on the album 4. Did i mention it's Stevie-less?

It's a good album to listen to whilst doing housework i.e. you can hardly hear it cos of the vacuum lol. It's so same-ey. It just drones on and on and on it's one of those that you can't wait for it to end. The worst thing about it is the fact that I actually payed £8.99 for it about 3 or 4 years ago. I WANT MY MONEY BACK!! RIP OFF!!

omg, this is so funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:nod: :] :nod: ~

TheWILDheart 10-06-2006 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GODDESS6 (Post 578558)
omg, this is so funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:nod: :] :nod: ~


Is it? :S OMG - someone with a sence of humour! WOW! U ROCK!

chiliD 10-06-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 578553)
I don't believe Fleetwood Mac should ever have any other female members other than Christine & Stevie .

That's about as assinine as somebody saying that Fleetwood Mac should never have any other guitarists than Peter Green. :shrug: And, that's just nuts.

DavidMn 10-06-2006 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 578437)
That's your opinion. Perhaps you're right......FM should've never tried to reinvent themselves. What a mistake to make. Had they never tried that, your Stevy would still be a waitress at the IHOP!
:blob1: :blob2: :laugh: :lol: :woohoo:

I wouldnt mind ordering pancakes and sausage from her.:nod:

foxyluva 10-06-2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 578564)
That's about as assinine as somebody saying that Fleetwood Mac should never have any other guitarists than Peter Green. :shrug: And, that's just nuts.

Well, not really, its just a personal opinion :laugh: and a guitarist is NEEDED in a band, another female singer is not. Tell me - would you have liked "Say You Will" if Fleetwood Mac had replaced Christine with another female? I know I would not have...

But again, Im just spouting off my opinion :D

EDIT: And about the Peter Green thing - there are plenty of people who think Fleetwood Mac were never any good once Peter Green jumped ship - you of all people should know that....

TheWILDheart 10-06-2006 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=foxyluva;578570} But again, Im just spouting off my opinion :D[/QUOTE]

LOL - GOOD FOR YOU!!! You go shouting off ur opinion! WOOO!! lol

SortaSavageLike 10-06-2006 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 578570)

EDIT: And about the Peter Green thing - there are plenty of people who think Fleetwood Mac were never any good once Peter Green jumped ship - you of all people should know that....

I can see why people would be pissed off. I mean, just look at the way Lindsey snuck up behind Peter, beat him over the head with a baseball bat, stole his guitar, and demanded to be in the band! :eek:

TheWILDheart 10-06-2006 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SortaSavageLike (Post 578593)
I can see why people would be pissed off. I mean, just look at the way Lindsey snuck up behind Peter, beat him over the head with a baseball bat, stole his guitar, and demanded to be in the band! :eek:

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG...i almost fell off my seat! THATS FUNNY!!

chiliD 10-06-2006 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 578570)
...and a guitarist is NEEDED in a band...

Not really :shrug: ...ask Gary Wright; or Emerson, Lake & Palmer; or the Modern Jazz Quartet, or Thelonious Monk, or Miles Davis.

TheWILDheart 10-06-2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 578607)
Not really :shrug: ...ask Gary Wright; or Emerson, Lake & Palmer; or the Modern Jazz Quartet, or Thelonious Monk, or Miles Davis.

what about Keane? they don't have any guitars it's all piano and they ROCK!

foxyluva 10-06-2006 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 578607)
Not really :shrug: ...ask Gary Wright; or Emerson, Lake & Palmer; or the Modern Jazz Quartet, or Thelonious Monk, or Miles Davis.

Let me rephrase - Fleetwood Mac needed another guitarist.

And on a side note - I love Gary Wright :laugh: wasn't he the first person to release an album made up only of music from a keyboard?

michelle2677 10-06-2006 04:23 PM

I really just think that it is difficult to change someones perceptive of a band after key players have left. Well, key players that one is used to listening to. That spark, chemistry and magic is gone that you loved so much. It's not to say that Peter Green is better than Lindsey, or Stevie is better than Bekka. They are just totally different bands imho. The reason I fell in love with Fleetwood Mac in the first place is because of the chemistry of the Rumours line-up. I'm not saying the other reincarnations are awful (I can't really pass ANY judgement because I have never really listened to them) but I just prefer this lineup.

Exact same with a cover of a song. I never got it until recently. My mother would always get SO mad when people would remake songs she listened to growing up and she would say...."Its not as good as the original". Well..of course it's not. You're used to hearing it a certain way...but people hearing it for the first time may love it. Same with the different lineups of the ever-changing mac.

did that make sense?? not to step on anyone's toes. I think the "original" way you hear it is more than likely always going to be your favorite and nothing will ever compare.



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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 578470)
Or a cleaning lady.

.

Priceless!! :laugh: :laugh:

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 578553)

It has nothing to do with Fleetwood Mac reinventing themselves - but they went around it the wrong way. The album had no promotion, so what did they expect? For it to be a new defining moment for them :rolleyes:


.

Just because an album is promoted poorly, does that necessarily make it a bad album??
:shrug:

foxyluva 10-06-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 578622)
Just because an album is promoted poorly, does that necessarily make it a bad album??
:shrug:

If you check the same post that you quoted me from - I never once said 'Time' is a BAD album...

TheWILDheart 10-06-2006 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 578622)
Just because an album is promoted poorly, does that necessarily make it a bad album??
:shrug:

No of course it doesn't....look @ TISL in the uk...#45..or Out of the Cradle..#104 (?) in the US and #55 (?) in the UK...or somewhere round there..and they are really good albums (I'm not a LB solo fan but it was a good album)

However, the cold fact is...Time WAS a bad album. It was a waste of everyone's time and a waste of money to those who bought it.

michelle2677 10-06-2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 578626)
If you check the same post that you quoted me from - I never once said 'Time' is a BAD album...

oh..I'm sorry. You said "pointless venture" earlier in the thread.


that's definately different than "bad".

foxyluva 10-06-2006 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 578632)
^^oh..I'm sorry. You said "pointless venture" earlier in the thread.
that's definately different than "bad".

It was very pointless - it came out of nowhere - and for once I agree with theWILDheart - it was a waste of time (no pun intended) and effort, but not because it was a bad album, but because they went about it all wrong...

michelle2677 10-06-2006 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWILDheart (Post 578631)
No of course it doesn't....look @ TISL in the uk...#45..or Out of the Cradle..#104 (?) in the US and #55 (?) in the UK...or somewhere round there..and they are really good albums (I'm not a LB solo fan but it was a good album)

However, the cold fact is...Time WAS a bad album. It was a waste of everyone's time and a waste of money to those who bought it.

oh..I agree that it sold very bad!!! But I do know of a couple of people who really love the album (I'm hoping there are actually MORE than a few out there!!:laugh: ) so would not think it was a waste of time :wavey:

michelle2677 10-06-2006 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 578635)
It was very pointless - it came out of nowhere - and for once I agree with theWILDheart - it was a waste of time (no pun intended) and effort, but not because it was a bad album, but because they went about it all wrong...


I know..I wonder if they just "assumed" it wouldn't do good because S and L were gone so they didn't bother. I would think they would have tried even harder to promote since they had some ground to cover with all the band memeber changes. :shrug:

TheWILDheart 10-06-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 578636)
oh..I agree that it sold very bad!!! But I do know of a couple of people who really love the album (I'm hoping there are actually MORE than a few out there!!:laugh: ) so would not think it was a waste of time :wavey:

Yeh but my point was that it's just rubbish. I could name some songs from it but wouldn't be able to hum it, sing it or fart it...it's so unmemorable. There is no amazing vocal performance, no enchanting lyrics and no soul. It's like someone has put together a machine to put the bare minimum of a Fleetwood Mac album onto CD. There is no WOW factor like we had with every album before it and every Stevie album ever made. Even SYW had a WOW factor on a lot of songs - even RAL did cos Stevie's voice kicked ass on it. Time was just not worth it. I keep expecting Christine to fall asleep during her own song - "The bright lights of the city are starting to.....(Billy: Psstt..chris..we're still recording..) Zzzzzzzzzzz". And something else, I forgot Billy was even present on this album. It seems all the members of Fleetwood Mac had either left, fallen asleep or gone to get a coffee during the making of this album.


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