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Blondie85 09-09-2006 02:46 PM

Any one else really disappointed?
 
Any one else disappointed as I am with the track list on Stevie's upcoming best of CD? I sincerely hope that will not be the final track list of the CD. I have several versions of every single song listed, why would I want to buy another CD of yet another version of a song. Thats a huge let down, Im sure other people would be able to make a better Best of CD with the songs already out there. I would rather have a remastered Bella Dona, Wild Heart, Rock A little or Buckingham Nicks than a Best of CD like the one that is coming out. I definitely wouldnt buy it, at the most I'll download the tracks if somone happens to post them on a website.

EDGE OF SEVENTEEN (SINGLE EDIT)
STAND BACK (SINGLE EDIT)
STOP DRAGGIN' MY HEART AROUND - with Tom Petty
CRYING IN THE NIGHT (SINGLE VERSION) - Buckingham Nicks
LEATHER AND LACE (SINGLE EDIT) - with Don Henley
ROOMS ON FIRE (7" REMIX)
I CAN'T WAIT (SINGLE VERSION)
THE NIGHTMARE (12" VERSION)
NIGHTBIRD (SINGLE VERSION) - * US CD ONLY
DREAMS - Deep Dish featuring Stevie Nicks
PLANETS OF THE UNIVERSE (TRACY YOUNG MIXSHOW)
LONG WAY TO GO (7" REMIX)
TALK TO ME
IF ANYONE FALLS
SORCERER (SHERYL CROW RADIO EDIT) - * US CD ONLY
BLUE DENIM (SINGLE REMIX)
IF YOU EVER DID BELIEVE (RADIO EDIT)
AFTER THE GLITTER FADES - * US CD ONLY
MAYBE LOVE (SINGLE REMIX) - * NOT ON US CD
EVERY DAY - * NOT ON US CD
HAS ANYONE EVER WRITTEN (LIVE FROM RED ROCKS) - * NOT ON US CD

bikerchic 09-09-2006 02:56 PM

^^ Where's Beauty and the Beast? only the best and most talked about song of her last tour :shrug:

Standback383 09-09-2006 03:20 PM

Whoa, I didn't even know she was releasing a best of CD! Wow, I guess I've been out of the loop for a while now :( Anyway, I agree, I pray that's not the set-in-stone track list....hmm...

SortaSavageLike 09-09-2006 03:56 PM

At least the track list makes more sense than the VBOFM CD that came out in 2002.

Since when did Family Man, No Questions Asked, and Skies the Limit represent the "very best of Fleetwood Mac?"

I swear to God, everything after Hold Me on that set was just pulled out of a hat. :rolleyes:

goldie 09-09-2006 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SortaSavageLike (Post 569336)
At least the track list makes more sense than the VBOFM CD that came out in 2002.

Since when did Family Man, No Questions Asked, and Skies the Limit represent the "very best of Fleetwood Mac?"

I swear to God, everything after Hold Me on that set was just pulled out of a hat. :rolleyes:

:nod: I can't even listen to the CD after Hold Me.

And yes I am quite disappointed in the Stevie tracklist. (this is the 1st time I've seen it posted anywhere)

JazmenFlowers 09-09-2006 06:40 PM

disappointed? not really. I mean it is a greatest hits compilation.

disappointed it's not a solo album instead? yeah.

amber 09-09-2006 06:58 PM

I have to say, I am pleasantly suprised that Long Way to Go made the compilation. Because I love it.
Otherwise the whole release is pretty lame. But the song choices are more interesting than I thought they would be. I'm also glad Crying in the Night is on there.
Buy it? No, not really.

Johnny Stew 09-09-2006 07:12 PM

I'd like to stress that this track-listing has not been confirmed, so, really, any nitpicking is a bit premature.

Don't get me wrong -- I'm not saying we can't or shouldn't discuss it. We just need to be mindful of its unconfirmed status.

Rickypt 09-09-2006 07:16 PM

Not disappointed, just not interested. We already have a Best Of CD and we have a boxed set. I guess this is some kind of contract fulfilling thing?

I think I'd be more excited by something like, I don't know, a reworking of Stevie classics featuring a symphony or something.

RockALittle250 09-09-2006 07:27 PM

I'd rather Stevie release a greatest hits compilation for 2006 and then have her release a really great album w/ new material in 2008 or 2009, then have her release a so-so, hastily put together new album for 2006 just for the sake of releasing an album...so think of it that way :)

RockALittle250 09-09-2006 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickypt (Post 569370)
Not disappointed, just not interested. We already have a Best Of CD and we have a boxed set. I guess this is some kind of contract fulfilling thing?

I think I'd be more excited by something like, I don't know, a reworking of Stevie classics featuring a symphony or something.


I consider the box-set as a serious collectors item/compilation only, because the casual or even often Stevie listener isn't gonna go out and buy that when they can just buy the single disk Timespace...so really, it's been 15 years since Stevie has released a single-disk best of compilation.

Rickypt 09-09-2006 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RockALittle250 (Post 569373)
then have her release a so-so, hastily put together new album for 2006 just for the sake of releasing an album...so think of it that way :)

She'd better get going!

Rickypt 09-09-2006 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RockALittle250 (Post 569375)
so really, it's been 15 years since Stevie has released a single-disk best of compilation.

Yes, but she's only released 2 albums since then. I don't think Blue Denim, MLWCYM, Sorcerer, POTU, and Every Day warrant a new "best of".

I'm not against it, just totally not interested.

EDIT: Unless it results in a scaled-down, intimate venue tour to promote the CD. Then I'm interested.

Johnny Stew 09-09-2006 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickypt (Post 569370)
Not disappointed, just not interested. We already have a Best Of CD and we have a boxed set. I guess this is some kind of contract fulfilling thing?

Well, something that really should be taken into account is the fact that, while we do already have a "best of" CD, it's been 15 years since 'Timespace' was released. It's also been 8 years since 'Enchanted.'

A "best of" released well over a decade ago is basically considered to be obsolete by a record company, and boxed-sets, no matter how reasonably priced, never sell as well as 1-disc compilations.

And while she's only released two studio albums since 'Timespace,' there have been eight singles in that time ("Maybe Love," "Blue Denim," "Twisted," "Reconsider Me," "If You Ever Did Believe," "Every Day," "Planets of the Universe" and "Sorcerer").

Releasing a new "best of" gives the record company a chance to inexpensively shine a light on Stevie's back catalog again: with just a small amount of promotion (most of which will come in the form of reviews and/or ads in the various magazines, like Billboard, People and Rolling Stone), and the set will probably move a few hundred-thousand units while also cross-promoting her old albums.

It's nothing new for the die-hards, but it's smart from a business standpoint.

UnwindedDreams 09-09-2006 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickypt (Post 569377)
EDIT: Unless it results in a scaled-down, intimate venue tour to promote the CD. Then I'm interested.

Do you realize that Stevie will never want to play small venues...she's concentrated on selling out Stadiums:lol: :laugh:

bikerchic 09-09-2006 07:48 PM

Well, I'm not going to buy it. I paid enough money for the box set and I'd rather listen to her rarities and bootlegs anyway. But what I would buy is a dvd of all her old and current concert footage with some FM thrown in there.

UnwindedDreams 09-09-2006 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bikerchic (Post 569380)
Well, I'm not going to buy it. I paid enough money for the box set and I'd rather listen to her rarities and bootlegs anyway. But what I would buy is a dvd of all her old and current concert footage with some FM thrown in there.

You know you wanna buy it;)

Rickypt 09-09-2006 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 569379)
Do you realize that Stevie will never want to play small venues...she's concentrated on selling out Stadiums:lol: :laugh:

Well, she sold out MSG back in June and she only had to sing I Need To Know and a couple of duets! :laugh:

UnwindedDreams 09-09-2006 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickypt (Post 569392)
Well, she sold out MSG back in June and she only had to sing I Need To Know and a couple of duets! :laugh:

True... she probably will next tour...by herself:laugh: do you think she could? the crowd was loving her...people were chanting her name before she even came on...:shocked:

jkmaletic 09-09-2006 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 569368)
I'd like to stress that this track-listing has not been confirmed, so, really, any nitpicking is a bit premature.

Don't get me wrong -- I'm not saying we can't or shouldn't discuss it. We just need to be mindful of its unconfirmed status.

Exactly. How many times have we been duped by Amazon or some other CD selling site before about "future" cds or even DVDs for that matter? :distress:

nightbird89 09-09-2006 10:45 PM

I actually am pretty impressed. I like the remixes, and crying in the night. I just don't get Everyday and HAEWAFY not being on the us cd.

AliceLover 09-09-2006 11:43 PM

I am not upset by this at all. ANYTHING Stevie at this point ill take. Shes getting older folks. A new CD prob means more touring which I think is great. I don't think theres much more toruing for her left so I say enjoy it while we have it.

DavidMn 09-09-2006 11:48 PM

Thats not too good if thta's the final song list.

foxyluva 09-10-2006 03:53 AM

Jeez you people bitch about everything! Its a Very Best Of for goodness sake! It was never going to have 'rarities' on it - its made for the mainstream. We had our release of rarities with "Enchanted".

I think its a great idea to release a current "Very Best of" that showcases that Stevie was just more than the 80s hits. It will also prompt fans to go out and buy full Stevie albums...

Its bloody hard to please you people :distress:

Kelly 09-10-2006 07:13 AM

I was thinking the same thing, Michael. :) Its a VBO/GH album....its not going to have rarities! I am so thrilled with Crying in the Night and Long Way to Go......I will buy it just for those two songs. This is a label thing....a way for them to make money. They aren't going to make money selling obscure songs and demos. Nobody likes that stuff but us and this release is not "for" hard cores. I do not think she needs another GH package but it seems to be standard practice.

Rickypt 09-10-2006 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 569488)
Jeez you people bitch about everything! Its a Very Best Of for goodness sake! It was never going to have 'rarities' on it - its made for the mainstream. We had our release of rarities with "Enchanted".

I think its a great idea to release a current "Very Best of" that showcases that Stevie was just more than the 80s hits. It will also prompt fans to go out and buy full Stevie albums...

Its bloody hard to please you people :distress:

Where is this all coming from? People aren't posting saying that a commerical Best Of album needs to be filled with rarities. Most of us are saying we aren't interested in a CD that has nothing new or different. And since Crying In the Night is on there, that means rarities were/are allowed and so it's fair for fans to discuss other ones that they would like to see included and to express disappointment there aren't more.

wheart 09-10-2006 07:47 AM

I'm actually quite impressed with the track list for this CD. I think it a good representation of Stevie's work. You can't do a CD like this and please everyone. It's impossible. So, I do have one problem with it. The Nightmare? What's THAT doing on there?

I also really would like to see a NEW shot of Stevie for this cover. It seems like she hasn't done any promo pictures in forever (probably since she hasn't released anything in forever:lol: :lol: But I really hope they don't pull out some tired photo for the cover that we've all seen a zillion times...

vermicious knid 09-10-2006 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 569378)
And while she's only released two studio albums since 'Timespace,' there have been eight singles in that time ("Maybe Love," "Blue Denim," "Twisted," "Reconsider Me," "If You Ever Did Believe," "Every Day," "Planets of the Universe" and "Sorcerer").

I don't think I knew that these three were ever released as singles. Probably because they didn't even make the Hot 100. I might have prefered "Touched by an Angel" or "Somebody Stand By Me". I found pictures for Reconsider Me and If You Ever Did Believe, but does anyone have a picture of the Twisted single?

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1688/ifueverew9.jpghttp://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3...iderme2nh5.jpg

MacMan 09-10-2006 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vermicious knid (Post 569530)
I don't think I knew that these three were ever released as singles. Probably because they didn't even make the Hot 100. I might have prefered "Touched by an Angel" or "Somebody Stand By Me". I found pictures for Reconsider Me and If You Ever Did Believe, but does anyone have a picture of the Twisted single?

I think Twisted may have just been a radio issued track, or single. I've heard it tons on the radio here.

I think it's a good idea to put this collection out there and have something out that's new on the shelf and updated. Enchanted, like most would agree, can't really be considered a "best of" in the traditional sense - and one that can easily be purchased, cause it can't! So from '91 till now to have an updated "best of" or hits collection, makes sense. She's been fairly active in the last few years (playing only her hits anyway), and this looks to be gathering most of the singles in one collection. A few are missing, but the biggest ones are all there.

I say bring it on...

Johnny Stew 09-10-2006 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelly (Post 569503)
I am so thrilled with Crying in the Night and Long Way to Go......I will buy it just for those two songs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickypt (Post 569507)
And since Crying In the Night is on there, that means rarities were/are allowed

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Originally Posted by wheart (Post 569508)
I'm actually quite impressed with the track list for this CD. So, I do have one problem with it. The Nightmare? What's THAT doing on there?

Since OoohMissionary has been unwilling or, more likely, incapable of producing any evidence that this tracklisting is legitimate, I'd like to stress, again, that we really should refrain from getting too excited or too disappointed by it.

Johnny Stew 09-10-2006 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by vermicious knid (Post 569530)
does anyone have a picture of the Twisted single?

The promo CD for "Twisted" didn't have a picture cover, only a back inlay (with the title, et al).

DestinyRules 09-10-2006 10:57 PM

If that's the final set list, this "Best of" CD is a complete waste of time in my book.

Several of those songs have already been on best of compilations and such and there's other material on TISL that is as deserving or more deserving for consideration on such a CD (*cough* "Fall From Grace" *cough*).

Of course, I bet the completists and the dyed in the wool fans would still jump all over it.

skcin 09-11-2006 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 569545)
Since OoohMissionary has been unwilling or, more likely, incapable of producing any evidence that this tracklisting is legitimate, I'd like to stress, again, that we really should refrain from getting too excited or too disappointed by it.

I agree. Until I see something official, I'm not buying it. Come on, The Nightmare? I love that stupid song, but a "best of" it is not. :laugh:

strandinthewind 09-11-2006 12:28 PM

Well, The Divine Stevie Nicks had this tracklikst, which was unlikely to say the least and though I like most of the less known songs:

1. Rooms On Fire
2. Long Way To Go
3. Wild Heart Listen
4. Sable On Blond
5. Two Kinds Of Love
6. Stand Back
7. Fire Burning
8. Ooh My Love
9. Alice
10. Enchanted
11. Nothing Ever Changes
12. Ghosts
13. If Anyone Falls
14. Gate And Garden

KarmaContestant 09-11-2006 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 569839)
Well, The Divine Stevie Nicks had this tracklikst, which was unlikely to say the least and though I like most of the less known songs:

1. Rooms On Fire
2. Long Way To Go
3. Wild Heart Listen
4. Sable On Blond
5. Two Kinds Of Love
6. Stand Back
7. Fire Burning
8. Ooh My Love
9. Alice
10. Enchanted
11. Nothing Ever Changes
12. Ghosts
13. If Anyone Falls
14. Gate And Garden

I think you make a good point here Jason.

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 569838)
I agree. Until I see something official, I'm not buying it. Come on, The Nightmare? I love that stupid song, but a "best of" it is not. :laugh:

The Nightmare is not that unlikely...especially if Stevie wanted it on Enchanted. She may have insisted that it be included on her best of, and maybe that's why so many of the other tracks are radio edits - to leave room for her remix of The Nightmare. Also, Stevie herself remixed The Nightmare....so why wouldn't she want to include it?

I know lots of people swear that Stevie hates all of her own material from 1985-1995 but I just don't believe it myself, and seeing this remix of the Nightmare is perfectly logical.

However....a good point has been made in that there has been no tracklisting from any official source.

nightbird89 09-11-2006 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 569488)
Jeez you people bitch about everything! Its a Very Best Of for goodness sake! It was never going to have 'rarities' on it - its made for the mainstream. We had our release of rarities with "Enchanted".

I think its a great idea to release a current "Very Best of" that showcases that Stevie was just more than the 80s hits. It will also prompt fans to go out and buy full Stevie albums...

Its bloody hard to please you people :distress:

Totally agree! And the long way to go remix could be counted as a rarity...

BTFLCHLD 09-11-2006 02:43 PM

I had no idea there was a "bestof" coming! :eek:

skcin 09-11-2006 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 569886)
The Nightmare is not that unlikely...especially if Stevie wanted it on Enchanted. She may have insisted that it be included on her best of, and maybe that's why so many of the other tracks are radio edits - to leave room for her remix of The Nightmare. Also, Stevie herself remixed The Nightmare....so why wouldn't she want to include it?

I know lots of people swear that Stevie hates all of her own material from 1985-1995 but I just don't believe it myself, and seeing this remix of the Nightmare is perfectly logical.

However....a good point has been made in that there has been no tracklisting from any official source.


I say that because the artist usually doesn't have a ton of input on these Rhino compilations. The Nightmare wasn't even close to being a hit, and even most fans think the song's a bit of a joke (although I myself love it.) "Stevie at her cut & poaste best" I've heard it described as (Sparky? Towie?)

I just see more "hits" being on there. I may be wrong. :shrug: I'll buy it regardles of wht is or isn't there, since I'm a completist.

KarmaContestant 09-11-2006 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 569940)
I say that because the artist usually doesn't have a ton of input on these Rhino compilations. The Nightmare wasn't even close to being a hit, and even most fans think the song's a bit of a joke (although I myself love it.) "Stevie at her cut & poaste best" I've heard it described as (Sparky? Towie?)

I just see more "hits" being on there. I may be wrong. :shrug: I'll buy it regardles of wht is or isn't there, since I'm a completist.

Me too. ;)

wheart 09-11-2006 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 569839)
Well, The Divine Stevie Nicks had this tracklikst, which was unlikely to say the least and though I like most of the less known songs:

1. Rooms On Fire
2. Long Way To Go
3. Wild Heart Listen
4. Sable On Blond
5. Two Kinds Of Love
6. Stand Back
7. Fire Burning
8. Ooh My Love
9. Alice
10. Enchanted
11. Nothing Ever Changes
12. Ghosts
13. If Anyone Falls
14. Gate And Garden

I always found this compilation to be bizarre because it only pulled from The Wild Heart and OSOTM. Not bad, mind you, just weird. Why use songs from only two albums, and why those two, in particular.


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