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DrummerDeanna 09-08-2006 12:12 PM

I passed up a doughnut.
 
:distress:

Do you know how hard it is for someone with food issues to say no to a big plate full of beautiful doughnuts? It's really f**king hard.

It's not just that I like to eat, my sister and I both have actual problems with food. So no jibes, please, about how I don't know how to eat healthy on my own, or that I'm a moron, it's a realy issue and I hate it.

I realize that I am, in fact, VERY lucky to not weigh more than I do. The way I've eaten in the past - I should be well over 200 pounds. I think the saving factor is that I don't lead a sedentary life, and up until about two years ago I was an AVID gym goer - I mean I was fierce...so I was able to eat like a pig - and maintain an OK weight. I've never been skinny -and never will be.

Anyway - it's truly one of the hardest things to do just to say no to a stupid doughnut - and I hate that I have these food issues, I hate that it's SUCH an obsession with me.

I'm starting to think some of my co-workers are food-pushers, which I hate.

We had ice-cream cake last week (which thankfullY I don't like all that much - but in the past I would have eaten it anyway). Anyway - I said no and got all sorts of pressure for not eating any ice cream cake. I finally lied and told everyone I was lactose intolerant. Great - so now do I have to be lactose intolerant for my tenure at this station?

Anyway - food issues really really suck.

SuzeQuze 09-08-2006 12:21 PM

Okay, you're my idol. I can never pass up food! :distress:

DrummerDeanna 09-08-2006 01:03 PM

^^
Me Either, which is why this is such a big deal. And I know one doughunt - not bad - but I then have trouble stopping - that's the issue - the over-eating and over-eating the crap. I HATE it....but I'm working on it :o

carrie721 09-08-2006 01:27 PM

ooh, that's hard, i know. good job! seriously, the longer you persevere with healthy eating, the easier it will get to pass up unhealthy food. keep on truckin', girl. :thumbsup:

skcin 09-08-2006 01:35 PM

OK. I officially designate this thread as our new "diet/lifestyle change/wieght loss support thread." :nod:

I've been wanting to start another thread about this subject again (can't seem to locate the diet & exercise one, plus it's probably pretty old), so we don't have to keep highjacking the "what are you eating" thread. Those who post there & are able to eat Big Macs daily without a problem (bastards) probably don't give a **** how may calories or points are in an almond. :cool:

So. Yes. Let's discuss how f*cking hard it is to lose weight & resist temptation here. I agree about the food pushing - at my old job, someone would bring crap in a few times a week, whether it was donuts, bagels, rolls, pizza, whatever. It sucked. To see it & smell it & know how good it tastes (but how bad it is) sucks. Hard. I'd usually eat it.

New job - healthier people, it seems. Takeout meals are few & far between, same with treats. So that's a good thing. One thing I've learned is that if something's not available to me, I don't really want it. Like, I never buy donuts for my home, I just don't care to. But if they're out on a table at work, I'd want one. :shrug:

BTW - I'm about 4 pounds down after 2&1/2 weeks. Slow & steady wins the race, right? Plus, I'm def. seeing more muscle tone & definition, at least in my arms. :nod:

HomerMcvie 09-08-2006 01:36 PM

Me too. I LOVE food, and I mean REAL food, none of that rabbit crap!!!!! Gimme melted cheese and grease!!!!!!! Sweets are okay, but definitely NOT my obsession. Gimme melted cheese and grease!!!!!!! I think I've accepted that I'm always going to be 25 lbs overweight. I CAN weigh 160, by eating rabbit food, and working out 3 days a week.....ALWAYS being hungry......and never allowing myself "good" food. F*CK THAT!!!! Life's too short. Gimme melted cheese and grease!!!!!!!
By the way, did I mention, Gimme melted cheese and grease!!!!!!! ;)

DrummerDeanna 09-08-2006 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by carrie721 (Post 568876)
ooh, that's hard, i know. good job! seriously, the longer you persevere with healthy eating, the easier it will get to pass up unhealthy food. keep on truckin', girl. :thumbsup:

No offense - but that's so not true :laugh:

It may be for some - but that's never been the case for me. This isn't my first go at the health thing - several years ago I was all über good eater - but the temptation got to me and then got out of hand. Oh - well ok - it's EASIER but never easy :(

I hate the "just take one bite of the cake - it's the best one" bull****! The whole piece tastes just as good as that first bite - and let me tell ya -the second piece tastes even better :laugh:

The "bring a piece of fruit to a party where you know there will be temptation - you won't even miss the bad food" Again - bull****!

The people who say those things totally don't understand compulsive eaters or the food obsessed :shrug:




That said - I am actually doing pretty well with the eating - it's just a contant battle and sometimes (like today) the bitch and bitter side of me comes out. sigh.

I'm glad others are undergoing this feat too though - it makes it easier :o

JazmenFlowers 09-08-2006 02:28 PM

^^^
I live in the South. home of sugar-coated, Crisco-loving, if-it-is-edible-we-fry-it hips and thighs. believe me, I know how hard it is to resist. I do think it gets easier. you just have to really be committed and have your head in it.

like my Mama used to say, you won't do it until YOU really WANT to.

greatdarkwing 09-08-2006 02:35 PM

Deanna you are not alone! I practically used to live on grease, carbs, and sugars, which is why I used to look like this..
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24...icks7/fat1.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24...7/73135072.jpg

After a long, and painful, fight with my weight, I decided it was time to lose it and I did. After 11 months, I had gone from 261 pounds and a size 42 waist to a 180ish pound 34/32 waist. I will be honest, I am Cuban and giving up any of the fattening stuff I liked was not easy. Like Deanna said, I would get on the treadmill and just run and run and run sometimes for HOURS. But this also meant I didnt have to give up the doughnuts and what-nots. However, (I will admit this for the first time here because I am very much over it and comfortable enough to share it) this briefly led to an eating disorder, which I was able to get a hand on very quickly.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24...icks7/fat2.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24...38290124_l.jpg

This is basically how I look today. I am not nearly where I want to be as I am trying to lose/tone down the last 10 pounds. But let me tell you, everyday is a CONSTANT struggle. Plus, it does not help that I am a night owl and up until 3A.M. and it is VERY hard to resist the temptation to eat anything at 1 or 2 in the morning. So, trust me, this is something that never completely goes away, but little battles like the won you just won help towards the bigger picture. :)

carrie721 09-08-2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna (Post 568893)
No offense - but that's so not true :laugh:

It may be for some - but that's never been the case for me. This isn't my first go at the health thing - several years ago I was all über good eater - but the temptation got to me and then got out of hand. Oh - well ok - it's EASIER but never easy :(

I hate the "just take one bite of the cake - it's the best one" bull****! The whole piece tastes just as good as that first bite - and let me tell ya -the second piece tastes even better :laugh:

The "bring a piece of fruit to a party where you know there will be temptation - you won't even miss the bad food" Again - bull****!

The people who say those things totally don't understand compulsive eaters or the food obsessed :shrug:




That said - I am actually doing pretty well with the eating - it's just a contant battle and sometimes (like today) the bitch and bitter side of me comes out. sigh.

I'm glad others are undergoing this feat too though - it makes it easier :o

well, okay, maybe it's not the case for everyone. but i would absolutely put myself in the food-obsessed/compulsive eater category. what i posted earlier is true for me, but not everything works for everybody. sorry it's not true for you. maybe the years i spent in therapy before starting this diet did the trick. :lol:

skcin 09-08-2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 568879)
Me too. I LOVE food, and I mean REAL food, none of that rabbit crap!!!!! Gimme melted cheese and grease!!!!!!! Sweets are okay, but definitely NOT my obsession. Gimme melted cheese and grease!!!!!!! I think I've accepted that I'm always going to be 25 lbs overweight. I CAN weigh 160, by eating rabbit food, and working out 3 days a week.....ALWAYS being hungry......and never allowing myself "good" food. F*CK THAT!!!! Life's too short. Gimme melted cheese and grease!!!!!!!
By the way, did I mention, Gimme melted cheese and grease!!!!!!! ;)

I too am tempted more by "cheese & grease" type foods than sweets. One mini piece of chocolate a day is all I need, but bring out Doritos & I'm screwed. :D Same with chips, or pizza, or burgers, or even pasta....

Not that I eat 5 burgers at one sitting or anything like that. But in general this is the stuff I overindulge in, or ignore portion size. I can stop at 1 piece of cake, but damned if I don't want another helping of garlic bread, or pizza, or chicken fingers, or fries. God, fries. :o I will (and have) keep eating them regardless of whether I'm full. I try to stay away to avoid this.


I'm trying to eat better more for health reasons - high cholesterol & heart disease are very prevelant in my fam. I'm trying to avoid the same mistakes they've made. I want to lose about 10 more pounds, but I'm not about to kill myself to get thin. I don't like rabbit food either - I'm just trying to eat less bad food.

sara1998 09-08-2006 02:45 PM

Well, I screwed up yet again today. I have got to do better. We had a recognition lunch here at work for those of us who worked together on a project. So, we went to a nice downtown restraunt and had lunch, and what did I get? A big ol' hamburger with caramelized onions, cheddar, and mushrooms with fries. That's the only thing I've had today. But I regret it. I can stay away from sweets with no problem, but when it comes to lunches and the sort, I have a really hard time.

DrummerDeanna 09-08-2006 02:45 PM

^^

That could very well be - it probably wouldn't hurt for me to seek other help to talk about my food issues. I mean - the first week of eating right - I was pretty much depressed all week.

But yes, it gets easier - just never easy. As Alex said, it's a constant struggle.

Of course - it's helped that this week I'm learning that healthy cooking can also be delicious - like the burrito I made last night ....oh. my. God. I can't even believe it's healthish it was so good.

Being an optimist (which I am NOT) would probably be good....should probably work on that too :laugh:

JazmenFlowers 09-08-2006 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by greatdarkwing (Post 568900)
Deanna you are not alone!

damn. you look awesome. good for you.
Quote:

Originally Posted by skcin (Post 568906)
bring out Doritos & I'm screwed. :D Same with chips, or pizza, or burgers, or even pasta....

you and I are so much alike it's scary. Doritos are my favorite thing in the world, next to Reese's. I don't like pizza all that much, but fries and pasta? ****. watch out.

sara1998 09-08-2006 02:47 PM

Oh, and by the way, Deanna, I love the name of this thread. Makes me LOL every time I read it! :lol:

DrummerDeanna 09-08-2006 02:48 PM

I should clarify - yes I have a sweet tooth - but I love the greasy food as well. Paula...Garclic bread? One my biggest weaknesses...oh hell BREAD is one of my biggest weaknesses :laugh:

Fries...cheese...mmmmm

Dammit.

DrummerDeanna 09-08-2006 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by greatdarkwing (Post 568900)
But this also meant I didnt have to give up the doughnuts and what-nots. However, (I will admit this for the first time here because I am very much over it and comfortable enough to share it) this briefly led to an eating disorder, which I was able to get a hand on very quickly.

Yikes - I'm glad you were able to get a handle on that!! How scary. But you're a true inspiration - I mean you have really transformed yourself and did it through the temptation and such it's something to be very proud of!

carrie721 09-08-2006 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna (Post 568909)
^^

That could very well be - it probably wouldn't hurt for me to seek other help to talk about my food issues. I mean - the first week of eating right - I was pretty much depressed all week.

it helped me a lot. my shrink knows a lot about nutrition, so she taught me the basics about healthy eating. also, she pounded into my head that food is fuel and to find other sources of comfort. i mean, it's still hard for me sometimes, i don't want to sound like it's always perfect & smooth sailing for me. a couple weeks ago, i ate a whole box of annie's mild mexican mac & cheese. and on tuesday, i had a delicious german chocolate bar. so i still give in to temptations, but the struggle isn't quite so bad now.

skcin 09-08-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sara1998 (Post 568908)
Well, I screwed up yet again today. I have got to do better. We had a recognition lunch here at work for those of us who worked together on a project. So, we went to a nice downtown restraunt and had lunch, and what did I get? A big ol' hamburger with caramelized onions, cheddar, and mushrooms with fries. That's the only thing I've had today. But I regret it. I can stay away from sweets with no problem, but when it comes to lunches and the sort, I have a really hard time.

You know what? Not the healthiest choice. :shrug: But it's done, so don't beat yourself up over it. And to be honest, you could have chosen worse options (Fettucine Alfredo comes to mind, a salad loaded with egg & cheese & fatty dressing...) It was tasty, it was good, so enjoy it for what it was. The best thing about food (for me) is the enjoyment - if you deny yourself that benefit, you've taken away the one good thing about that meal! So ditch the guilt, go for a walk tonight, and eat something healthier for dinner. :thumbsup:

DrummerDeanna 09-08-2006 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by carrie721 (Post 568918)
it helped me a lot. my shrink knows a lot about nutrition, so she taught me the basics about healthy eating. also, she pounded into my head that food is fuel and to find other sources of comfort. i mean, it's still hard for me sometimes, i don't want to sound like it's always perfect & smooth sailing for me. a couple weeks ago, i ate a whole box of annie's mild mexican mac & cheese. and on tuesday, i had a delicious german chocolate bar. so i still give in to temptations, but the struggle isn't quite so bad now.

Weeeellll..if you look back to my mom thread then you realize therapy probably wouldn't be the worst thing for me :laugh: I'm just trying to get settled in with finances after my move and such - but it's in my future. I believe many people can benefit greatly from therapy.

Yeah - when I went rounds with my weight years ago - the week I'd "mess up" and eat the whole candy bar or something are the weeks I'd lose more weight - sometimes a jolt like that sort of kick-starts metabolism or something - doesn't let it get stagnant :p

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Paula - great advice...:nod: We are all our own worst critics and enemies - but I'm going to quote you on the ditch the guilt thing!

JazmenFlowers 09-08-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 568919)
You know what? Not the healthiest choice. :shrug: But it's done, so don't beat yourself up over it. And to be honest, you could have chosen worse options (Fettucine Alfredo comes to mind, a salad loaded with egg & cheese & fatty dressing...) It was tasty, it was good, so enjoy it for what it was. The best thing about food (for me) is the enjoyment - if you deny yourself that benefit, you've taken away the one good thing about that meal! So ditch the guilt, go for a walk tonight, and eat something healthier for dinner. :thumbsup:

exactly. and you're body doesn't say, oh you ate a burger...must get fat. just take into consideration what you've put in your body and make adjustments that day and the next. get back on your plan and move on. life's too short to beat yourself up, especially if you're looking at this as a life change and not a diet.

DavidMn 09-08-2006 03:15 PM

Good for you Deanna.:thumbsup: It's hard for me too, but with other kinds of food.,

sparky 09-08-2006 03:27 PM

:laugh:
Quote:

Originally Posted by skcin (Post 568906)
bring out Doritos & I'm screwed. :D Same with chips, or pizza, or burgers, or even pasta....

All these just get me. Badly. I have this urge sometimes to go get Stouffer's French bread pepperoni pizza, a big assed bag of Nacho Doritos, and a six pack of beer. And consume every bit of it. I can. And have. Then I feel like I want to puke, of course. My most effective tactic lately is to put my hand above the waist of my pants. That helps to keep the junk outta my yap. And the standing naked in front of a full length mirror twice a day.:laugh:

DavidMn 09-08-2006 03:29 PM

You know what really hit home for me. I watched the first episode of the Biggest Loser last year, and the contestants came into this room and there was all this fabulous and fattening food, and they gorged themselves, but felt crappy afterward.

SuzeQuze 09-08-2006 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna (Post 568909)
^^

That could very well be - it probably wouldn't hurt for me to seek other help to talk about my food issues. I mean - the first week of eating right - I was pretty much depressed all week.

But yes, it gets easier - just never easy. As Alex said, it's a constant struggle.

Of course - it's helped that this week I'm learning that healthy cooking can also be delicious - like the burrito I made last night ....oh. my. God. I can't even believe it's healthish it was so good.

Being an optimist (which I am NOT) would probably be good....should probably work on that too :laugh:

Definitely, it takes work but you gotta be more positive. I know that sounds retarded but it's true. Dude, just passing up that donut is huge. Give yourself props. And you passed it up because you didn't want it. Maybe you'll have one tomorrow but right now you just don't feel like it. Cuz you don't want the consequences. For me it's become easier to pass them up because I just think, "I won't feel like sh*t in an hour". I tend to crash from sugar, esp if I've had it on an empty stomach.

Because sweets, and being full, both release endorphins, I suspect those of us who overeat tend to be depressed. I think nutritionists and trainers miss this very important psychological component.

On edit, I mean I can resist buying donuts and such but not when someone offers one free.

DrummerDeanna 09-08-2006 03:42 PM

^^

Oh I wanted that donut- I STILL want the donut - I just went across the hall and opened the box - and smelled the donut :laugh:

But the one I was thinking of allowing myself to have (glazed - they're actually not too many points) is gone - so I took that as sign.

SuzeQuze 09-08-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky (Post 568945)
:laugh:

All these just get me. Badly. I have this urge sometimes to go get Stouffer's French bread pepperoni pizza, a big assed bag of Nacho Doritos, and a six pack of beer. And consume every bit of it. I can. And have. Then I feel like I want to puke, of course. My most effective tactic lately is to put my hand above the waist of my pants. That helps to keep the junk outta my yap. And the standing naked in front of a full length mirror twice a day.:laugh:

I want a photo! :lol:

DavidMn 09-08-2006 03:44 PM

Are there any Cops out there brave enough to respond to this thread....:laugh:

skcin 09-08-2006 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparky (Post 568945)
My most effective tactic lately is to put my hand above the waist of my pants. That helps to keep the junk outta my yap. And the standing naked in front of a full length mirror twice a day.:laugh:


I swear to you, I read that as "that helps me keep the junk outta my LAP." I almost peed my pants. :laugh:

SuzeQuze 09-08-2006 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna (Post 568964)
^^

Oh I wanted that donut- I STILL want the donut - I just went across the hall and opened the box - and smelled the donut :laugh:

But the one I was thinking of allowing myself to have (glazed - they're actually not too many points) is gone - so I took that as sign.

You went and smelled it. :lol: That is sooo something I would do!

You could always have half a donut.

DrummerDeanna 09-08-2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 568970)
You went and smelled it. :lol: That is sooo something I would do!

You could always have half a donut.

:laugh: I know - it's just sad. There IS half a donut in there...hmm...

Ok..at this point the donuts are just mocking me :mad: :p

Patti 09-08-2006 03:57 PM

I've always been a binge eater. I can eat really well for weeks, but when I fall off the wagon, I start literally gorging myself with all sorts of junk. I also have problems with portion control. If a little food is in front of me, I'll eat a little bit. If a lot of food is in front of me, I'll eat a lot of food.

I think I'm finally getting a handle on things. I think you all are right, that depression has a lot to do with it. Since I've gotten divorced and have settled into the single life, I'm much happier. And I find making healthy food choices a lot easier. I have also started paying attention to my emotions when I overeat and I am seeing a pattern of either sadness or stress. Recognizing that helps me not to choose junk or binging. I'm still not perfect at it, not by a long shot, but at least I'm aware. I also make sure not to beat myself up if I do make an unhealthy choice. I just move on from it.

JazmenFlowers 09-08-2006 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skcin (Post 568968)
I swear to you, I read that as "that helps me keep the junk outta my LAP." I almost peed my pants. :laugh:

me too! I read it and re-read it and until I just saw your post I thought it was LAP. :laugh:

DavidMn 09-08-2006 04:07 PM

One of the things I have always said with regards to my situation is that no one forced me to eat the things I did. I chose to. It's like a cause and affect. I cant speak for anyone else, but that's how I feel.

DavidMn 09-08-2006 04:10 PM

I just want to clarify that Everyone's situation is different. I was only speaking for myself when I made the choice comment.:nod:

SuzeQuze 09-08-2006 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn (Post 568994)
One of the things I have always said with regards to my situation is that no one forced me to eat the things I did. I chose to. It's like a cause and affect. I cant speak for anyone else, but that's how I feel.

The thing is, I think the kind of foods you crave and the portions you crave, or anyone craves, are hard-wired (at least partly) into you so it is very difficult to work against them. You can fight it but as folks have said here, it is a constant battle. Most people seem to think it's worth the effort when they are successful.

I hope that whatever causes the cravings and such is found by scientists and there really is some way to make it easier on people to not desire these foods so much. Not all appetites are created equal unfortunately.

sparky 09-08-2006 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 568968)
I swear to you, I read that as "that helps me keep the junk outta my LAP." I almost peed my pants. :laugh:

OMG. You are a rip roarin riot. I almost sprayed water at the screen. I want the junk in my lap. Better than junk in the trunk. I think :shrug: :]

sparky 09-08-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna (Post 568972)
:laugh: I know - it's just sad. There IS half a donut in there...hmm...

Ok..at this point the donuts are just mocking me :mad: :p

That should be a new chain. Mocking Donuts.

DrummerDeanna 09-08-2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 569000)
The thing is, I think the kind of foods you crave and the portions you crave, or anyone craves, are hard-wired (at least partly) into you so it is very difficult to work against them. You can fight it but as folks have said here, it is a constant battle. Most people seem to think it's worth the effort when they are successful.

I hope that whatever causes the cravings and such is found by scientists and there really is some way to make it easier on people to not desire these foods so much. Not all appetites are created equal unfortunately.


Right. It's about choice for sure - but sometimes there are things going on on a deeper level that negate the choice - or just go beyond simple choice. There have been times in my life where, yes, I could have chosen to not eat the entire roll of cookie dough - but prior to eating it I was not in a clear "should I or shouldn't I" state of mind.

I don't know how to explain it - and we are ultimately responsible for what goes into our mouths - which is why I'm now trying to make better choices - and stop using food for other things -- like rewards or something to buffer a bad situation.

Everyone is different - for sure. I mean Pickled Pig's Feet have to exist for someone - and it sure as hell isn't me!

sparky 09-08-2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 568966)
I want a photo! :lol:

That could get my ass banned.


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