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SortaSavageLike 08-13-2006 08:31 PM

What is the "Fleetwood Mac sound" anyway?
 
I'm referring to the Bob Welch and Rumours eras specifically. I've heard the term "Fleetwood Mac sound" bandied about a bit. Someone might be talking about one of Lindsey's Tusk songs, or For Your Love, and say that the song doesn't have that "Fleetwood Mac sound."

However, I've never been able to figure just what that "sound" is. If I were to play someone who'd never heard a Fleetwood Mac song instrumental versions of Tusk, Landslide, and Oh Daddy, would they recognize them as being from the same band? Oddly enough the closest I've come to identifying the Fleetwood Mac sound was Warren Zevon's Werewolves of London, but even then it was just because Mick and John played on it. :shrug:

Little Nicki 08-13-2006 09:03 PM

I've always assocated the mid-tempo numbers with Fleetwood Mac. Songs like Gypsy, Dreams, Thrown Down, You Make Loving Fun, practically any Christine song! I think it's mostly about the rhytm section when people talk about "that sound".

foxyluva 08-13-2006 10:12 PM

Yeah, Its probably the rhythm section. On songs like "Sable on Blonde" you can really hear a typical Mick Fleetwood style of drumming, even though that is not a Mac song, you could still pick out that that is Mick on drums.

John's bass is pretty distinctive too....

David 08-13-2006 10:27 PM

I think it includes that approach of microarrangement that the producers gave the band (or wrenched out of it), plus the very distinct sound of each of the instrumentalists, who are all slightly weird, musically speaking.

SteveMacD 08-13-2006 10:31 PM

And "Werewolves Of London" certainly qualifies as classic mid-tempo Fleetwood-McVie. I've often wondered this one isn't part of their regular set. Zevon covers are certainly acceptable, and really, it would be as much of a "cover" in a modern Fleetwood Mac show as "Oh Well."

BlackWidow 08-14-2006 10:14 AM

FM is the Buckingham/Nicks sound!

shackin'up 08-14-2006 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackWidow (Post 560207)
FM is the Buckingham/Nicks sound!

you're not a Fleetwood Mac fan.

period.

HomerMcvie 08-14-2006 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 560216)
you're not a Fleetwood Mac fan.

period.

Don't waste your time.

BlackWidow 08-14-2006 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 560231)
Don't waste your time.

Buckingham/Nicks are FM....:thumbsup:

skcin 08-14-2006 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 560216)
you're not a Fleetwood Mac fan.

period.

Don't feed the troll. Just makes it worse.

michelle2677 08-14-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackWidow (Post 560253)
Buckingham/Nicks are FM....:thumbsup:

Actually Buckingham/Nicks are Buckingham Nicks. They had a self title solo album. Have you heard it? Fleetwood Mac consists of several other people INCLUDING Buckingham Nicks.


Just thought I'd clear that up.

HomerMcvie 08-14-2006 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 560271)
Don't feed the troll. Just makes it worse.

Very true. Maybe we should ALL use the ignore feature!:thumbsup:

skcin 08-14-2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 560298)
Very true. Maybe we should ALL use the ignore feature!:thumbsup:

Like Steve, I've never been so tempted. But I don't play that way. I feel I must pay attention to all members' posts, if only to point out inaccuracies, confront lies & fight for the northern star. :laugh:

BlackWidow 08-14-2006 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 560271)
Don't feed the troll. Just makes it worse.

be careful darling..glass houses...

mikeschmike 08-14-2006 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 560301)
Like Steve, I've never been so tempted. But I don't play that way. I feel I must pay attention to all members' posts, if only to point out inaccuracies, confront lies & fight for the northern star. :laugh:

No speed limit baby.

BlackWidow 08-14-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 560301)
Like Steve, I've never been so tempted. But I don't play that way. I feel I must pay attention to all members' posts, if only to point out inaccuracies, confront lies & fight for the northern star. :laugh:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Maybe you can start cleaning your own house first Paula.

skcin 08-14-2006 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeschmike (Post 560318)
No speed limit baby.

I do love the fast lane. :xoxo:

I don't know about a "Fleetwood Mac sound." I think there's a Zep sound, a Who sound, an Eagles sound. But Mac is so eclectic, I don't know how I would describe it. :shrug:

Sugar 08-14-2006 03:17 PM

I would like to take a moment out from our regularly scheduled programming to remind folks that personal feuds will not be tolerated on this board, which is what this is starting to look like (In combination with what's going on in the 2007 set list thread as well).

To me the "FM sound" is somewhere in the combination of the distinctive and often dominant rhythm section and the vocal blends.

Villavic 08-14-2006 03:25 PM

I think is mostly a matter of marketing. When OOTC was released, I remember the package had a sticker that said "The new solo album from the architect of the Fleetwood Mac sound".. or something like that.. I guess the "FM sound" concept started there, or so it was spreaded

IMHO it's the style Lindsey and Dashut (and Ken C.) gave to the productions they made together. For example BTMask is clearly different from how Tango or Mirage sounded.

But all of this is relative, anyway, for example Rumours had the same producers but since it was made 10 years before Tango, obviously it sounded DIFFERENT.

SteveMacD 08-14-2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar (Post 560354)
I would like to take a moment out from our regularly scheduled programming to remind folks that personal feuds will not be tolerated on this board, which is what this is starting to look like (In combination with what's going on in the 2007 set list thread as well).

Oddly enough, it would seem that all of the "personal feuds" seem to involve the same person/troll.

skcin 08-14-2006 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sugar (Post 560354)
I would like to take a moment out from our regularly scheduled programming to remind folks that personal feuds will not be tolerated on this board, which is what this is starting to look like (In combination with what's going on in the 2007 set list thread as well).

To me the "FM sound" is somewhere in the combination of the distinctive and often dominant rhythm section and the vocal blends.


OK. :sorry:

Nice to see you again, btw, didn't know if you were still around.

Sugar 08-14-2006 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 560383)

Nice to see you again, btw, didn't know if you were still around.

Oh, yeah...I'm around. I've never been a real big poster, but I'm forever lurking...lurking...lurking...;)

HomerMcvie 08-14-2006 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 560382)
Oddly enough, it would seem that all of the "personal feuds" seem to involve the same person/troll.

And I thought it was Ledge policy, that if someone was determined to be a troll, that the strike system isn't even necessary for removal.
This person IS trolling, IMO.

shackin'up 08-14-2006 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 560430)
And I thought it was Ledge policy, that if someone was determined to be a troll, that the strike system isn't even necessary for removal.
This person IS trolling, IMO.

exactly. burn the witch.

chiliD 08-14-2006 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 560439)
exactly. burn the witch.

From Monty Python & The Holy Grail:

CROWD: Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!
BEDEVERE: How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2: She looks like one.
CROWD: Right! Yeah! Yeah!
BEDEVERE: Bring her forward.
WITCH: I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEVERE: Uh, but you are dressed as one.
WITCH: They dressed me up like this.
CROWD: Augh, we didn't! We didn't...
WITCH: And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
BEDEVERE: Well?
VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEVERE: The nose?
VILLAGER #1: And the hat, but she is a witch!
VILLAGER #2: Yeah!
CROWD: We burn her! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!
BEDEVERE: Did you dress her up like this?
VILLAGER #1: No!
VILLAGER #2 and 3: No. No.
VILLAGER #2: No.
VILLAGER #1: No.
VILLAGERS #2 and #3: No.
VILLAGER #1: Yes.
VILLAGER #2: Yes.
VILLAGER #1: Yes. Yeah, a bit.
VILLAGER #3: A bit.
VILLAGERS #1 and #2: A bit.
VILLAGER #3: A bit.
VILLAGER #1: She has got a wart.
RANDOM: [cough]
BEDEVERE: What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEVERE: A newt?
VILLAGER #3: I got better.
VILLAGER #2: Burn her anyway!
VILLAGER #1: Burn!
CROWD: Burn her! Burn! Burn her!...
BEDEVERE: Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
VILLAGER #1: Are there?
VILLAGER #2: Ah?
VILLAGER #1: What are they?
CROWD: Tell us! Tell us!...
BEDEVERE: Tell me. What do you do with witches?
VILLAGER #2: Burn!
VILLAGER #1: Burn!
CROWD: Burn! Burn them up! Burn!...
BEDEVERE: And what do you burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #1: More witches!
VILLAGER #3: Shh!
VILLAGER #2: Wood!
BEDEVERE: So, why do witches burn?
[pause]
VILLAGER #3: B--... 'cause they're made of... wood?
BEDEVERE: Good! Heh heh.
CROWD: Oh, yeah. Oh.
BEDEVERE: So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
VILLAGER #1: Build a bridge out of her.
BEDEVERE: Ah, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
VILLAGER #1: Oh, yeah.
RANDOM: Oh, yeah. True. Uhh...
BEDEVERE: Does wood sink in water?
VILLAGER #1: No. No.
VILLAGER #2: No, it floats! It floats!
VILLAGER #1: Throw her into the pond!
CROWD: The pond! Throw her into the pond!
BEDEVERE: What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1: Bread!
VILLAGER #2: Apples!
VILLAGER #3: Uh, very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1: Cider!
VILLAGER #2: Uh, gra-- gravy!
VILLAGER #1: Cherries!
VILLAGER #2: Mud!
VILLAGER #3: Uh, churches! Churches!
VILLAGER #2: Lead! Lead!
ARTHUR: A duck!
CROWD: Oooh.
BEDEVERE: Exactly. So, logically...
VILLAGER #1: If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood.
BEDEVERE: And therefore?
VILLAGER #2: A witch!
VILLAGER #1: A witch!
CROWD: A witch! A witch!...
VILLAGER #4: Here is a duck. Use this duck.
[quack quack quack]
BEDEVERE: Very good. We shall use my largest scales.
CROWD: Ohh! Ohh! Burn the witch! Burn the witch! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Ahh! Ahh...
BEDEVERE: Right. Remove the supports!
[whop]
[clunk]
CROWD: A witch! A witch! A witch!
WITCH: It's a fair cop.
VILLAGER #3: Burn her!
CROWD: Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn! Burn!...
BEDEVERE: Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
ARTHUR: I am Arthur, King of the Britons.
BEDEVERE: My liege!
ARTHUR: Good Sir Knight, will you come with me to Camelot and join us at the Round Table?
BEDEVERE: My liege! I would be honored.
ARTHUR: What is your name?
BEDEVERE: 'Bedevere', my liege.
ARTHUR: Then I dub you 'Sir Bedevere, Knight of the Round Table'.

Sugar 08-14-2006 04:57 PM

^^^ :lol: Well done...one of my favorites...:lol:

shackin'up 08-14-2006 05:30 PM

I was referring to that one, chili. I saw that movie 19 times. The 19th time i pissed my pants......... again.

estranged4life 08-14-2006 05:49 PM

It is...
 
the sound of coin hitting Mick Moneybag's bank account about twice a decade...

**Ca-ching**

michelle2677 08-14-2006 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 560430)
And I thought it was Ledge policy, that if someone was determined to be a troll, that the strike system isn't even necessary for removal.
This person IS trolling, IMO.

eh...or could be just a REALLY energetic person who doesn't know any better. :shocked:

michelle2677 08-14-2006 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life (Post 560495)
the sound of coin hitting Mick Moneybag's bank account about twice a decade...

**Ca-ching**

ha ha...I'll second that!! :thumbsup:

shackin'up 08-14-2006 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 560502)
eh...or could be just a REALLY energetic person who doesn't know any better. :shocked:

yeah with a brick wall on her forehead.

michelle2677 08-14-2006 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 560504)
yeah with a brick wall on her forehead.

:lol: :lol: :lol:



his though ;)

chiliD 08-14-2006 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 560488)
I was referring to that one, chili. I saw that movie 19 times. The 19th time i pissed my pants......... again.

I think I'm on about #50 and I still get sideaches from laughing so hard during the opening credits...I'm almost too sore to laugh once the movie even begins!! It's definitely a painful movie to watch! :laugh:

shackin'up 08-14-2006 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 560509)
I think I'm on about #50 and I still get sideaches from laughing so hard during the opening credits...I'm almost too sore to laugh once the movie even begins!! It's definitely a painful movie to watch! :laugh:

I'm an audiovisual communication teacher. Everytime someone asks me what is the best movie ever they expect some classic title, and then I say:

You have to cut the biggest tree in the forest with.....a haring!!!!

Serious. It's the best movie ever.

chiliD 08-14-2006 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 560511)
I'm an audiovisual communication teacher. Everytime someone asks me what is the best movie ever they expect some classic title, and then I say:

You have to cut the biggest tree in the forest with.....a haring!!!!

Serious. It's the best movie ever.


And bring me a....SHRUBBERY!!!

Sugar 08-14-2006 06:39 PM

I warned you, but did you listen to me? Oh, NO, you "KNEW," didn't you?! Oh, it's just a "harmless little BUNNY," isn't it?!

:thumbsup:

I'm sitting here giggling just typing it...

skcin 08-14-2006 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 560502)
eh...or could be just a REALLY energetic person who doesn't know any better. :shocked:


Oh, come on. Have you read his posts? He's no innocent newbie.

Whatever. I'm done with it. I'm not about to let his ignorance & baiting bother me.

BlackWidow 08-14-2006 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sugar (Post 560354)
I would like to take a moment out from our regularly scheduled programming to remind folks that personal feuds will not be tolerated on this board, which is what this is starting to look like (In combination with what's going on in the 2007 set list thread as well).

To me the "FM sound" is somewhere in the combination of the distinctive and often dominant rhythm section and the vocal blends.

Hi Sue,
Thanks for the intervention..it is appreciated.
I guess sometimes we get a little too passionate regarding our personal
opinions. It is hard especially when someone is "baiting" you.

BlackWidow 08-14-2006 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skcin (Post 560527)
Oh, come on. Have you read his posts? He's no innocent newbie.

Whatever. I'm done with it. I'm not about to let his ignorance & baiting bother me.

..As Paula continues to bait & stir the pot..so much for ":sorry: "

skcin 08-14-2006 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackWidow (Post 560528)
Hi Sue,
Thanks for the intervention..it is appreciated.
I guess sometimes we get a little too passionate regarding our personal
opinions. It is hard especially when someone is "baiting" you.



It is hard, isn't it? I, for one, have decided to ignore your baiting from now on. Hopefully others can do the same.


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Originally Posted by BlackWidow (Post 560530)
..As Paula continues to bait & stir the pot..so much for ":sorry: "


I'm not the one people are talking about ignoring. :shrug: But OK, I'll leave you alone & we'll see if you start posting nicer, well thought out, intelligent posts.


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