OOh - Under The Skin Track List - Confirmed!!!
 

Got this from a really reliable source..
Without seeing it on the official web site or on the back of a cd, I'm not saying its 100%, but here goes:

The tracklist:
1. "Not Too Late"
2. "Show You How"
3. "Under the Skin"
4. "I Am Waiting" (Rolling Stones cover)
5. "It Was You"
6. "Try For the Sun"
7. "Cast Away Dreams"
8. "Shut Us Down"
9. "Down On Rodeo"
10. "Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind"
11. "Juniper"

Re: Now confirmed on Amazon.com. Well done to that person for spotting!:)

you should reveal your source - or at least give us some hints.

otherwise we can't get truly excited.

no She Smiled Sweetly?

very disappointed.

but still eager to see the real track list.

Intersting titles...I can't remeber that Stones song though...
Am I just drawing a blank and it's famous??
Or is it a rather buried blues Stones tune like
"Love in Vain"..I love that song...

Thanks for the info:nod:

Do you really need two CDs for 11 songs? (Unless they're all 15 minutes long?) :shrug:

I wonder if he re-recorder the tracks FM played/sang on as there are several on there that I think were to be on the longer version of SYW that he wanted to release.

Fair doos. I've been speaking to a bloke on myspace that was talking about Under The Skin being released even before the official site. He's got a promo copy. Please take the info as you wish as I have not heard it myself:

He said:

Anything for a fellow Lindsey fan. The album is very thematically unified -- it's primarly acoustic with Lindsey doing all of the vocals himself. There are almost no drums at all. A few of the songs will be recognizable to diehards from the aborted "Gift of Screws" album (though I think "Under the Skin" is a more complete and better record, all told) and "Shut Us Down" from the "Elizabethtown" soundtrack is also here. I'll save extra details for whatever review I might write, but I think it's definitely Lindsey's strongest solo album to date. It's often very beautiful with predictably dazzling finger-picking, but Lindsey himself sounds like he's in a very good place: most of the songs tackle love, mortality, and family in a very compelling and touching way.

OK.. I may have got a bit over excited! :]
Its not the greatest most reliable source, but the list sounds a tad more reliable than the last one!!

I agree it does seem a little short for a CD album. Perhaps they'll be more added!?

Lets hope!!:rolleyes:

Two cd's - two seperate releases at different times. This one accoustic, and the other a more rocking version. Not sure if it is going to be the same tracks on both.


Thanks for the info. As for the track list - even though almost half the tracks I've heard before - it's still going to be newly recorded if it's all accoustic, so I'm looking forward to it.

For someone who wants to release his material a la the thought of a double SYW issue - why does he duplicate songs in official releases a la "Bleed to Love Her," "Steal Your Heart Away," and now "Shut Us Down." I mean that was three new songs replaced by reissues of sorts.

No probs trackaghost!

I've been itching to get any info I can about this new album!

Well to me that's a disappointing tracklist if it`s the real one. The only good thing about it is, that there are rumours about a second album in 2007 which I personally only believe when I see it.
11 songs are not that much and then there are just 6 new ones to my ears. Strand I agree with the double publishing a la Bleed to love her. Bring the new ones along instead. I surely hope that the source forgot to mention 4 or 5 tracks.

I agree the list is a little disappointing for new material...

It also explains why his soundstage was delayed for so long since it had 3 of the 11 tracks!

I'm not trying to indemnify this track listing as bogus but I did notice that a few of these song names are actually lyrics to other songs, one of which is already included on this supposed track listing. For instance, the first song track "not too late" is actually a lyric from "Twist of Fate" and Juniper is used in the line "fly down juniper" in Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind, which has already been listed above. "It was you" sounds strangely similar to "It was I" and Cast Away Dreams sounds too much like it's a poke at Stevie's "Dreams". These aren't based on anything other then observation... Also, for a Lindsey C.D. this isn't that sparse. Law and Order only had 11 tracks, and Go Insane only 9. In addition he'll need some material for another cd. only my opinion

After 14 years 11 songs are sparse. In addition he claimed to write songs like crazy 3 years ago. The second CD... Who believes in that? At least not in 2007. But if there really is one in the making it will morphe into a FM album in 3, 4 or 5 years.

Pretty much my thoughts too. "Cast Away Dreams" is almost like a combination of two Stevie song titles, "Castaway" and "Dreams".

Also, if track #1 is actually "Twist Of Fate" then I take the title change as a wry comment on aging and the gap between the last solo album and this one: "Not Too Late".

Of course if this is just a promo copy then someone from the record company probably just hastily scribbled down what he/she thinks are the track titles without asking from Lindsey himself.

I appreciate everyones a little dubious about this list of titles - myself included.

Lindsey does tend to copy himself though:

* Dreams is also on out of the cradle as 'Street of Dreams'.

* 'Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind' was mentioned in shuffle riff.

* There's 'play in the rain' on go insane and 'surrender the rain' on out of the cradle.

* He even rips off a large section of lyrics from 'You do or you don't' and lobs it in 'bleed to love her'


I agree about being a bit short for a CD album. The LP's were restricted to 45 minutes, so you would expect something about the length of Out of the cradle!?

....and the acidpissing starts again. :distress:

11 songs on a record that is a unity is fine for me. Alot of albums are just too long in my opinion. (how many ledgies dissed SYW for being too long? Stop being so opportune)

Shut us down was given for the movie and Back then I clearly have read that it was from his forthcoming soloalbum. I am pleased to see it on the tracklist and I'm curious how it fits in a concept. The fact that a gem like SGCYM is on an official release is more than logic: If the theme of the record is interpreted well by the lucky owner of this copy, it fits perfectly. By the way, I really want to hear a good quality recording of that anthem. DOR is the most wanted song by ledgies from GOS. He clearly recognized that himself. I'm personally not so fond of Try for the sun and I am waiting has never been released, only in a liveversion.

I'm sure we will find some GOStracks on his next one: they were just too damn good.

Embrace the fact that he's coming out in the open again and mark my words:

We are facing a new masterpiece.

No, it was 12 or 13 songs. 13 if you count "This Nearly Was Mine" which is roughly 90 seconds long. Three of the 16 were short introductions which I'm sure most of us wouldn't count as songs.

OOTC clocks in at 48:42 on my CD player which is still within the normal lengths for a vinyl album. There was a vinyl issue of OOTC outside of USA with none of the music omitted. And it was possible to put out a vinyl album with 50-60 minutes of music on it even back in the old days (check out Genesis' Foxtrot or Selling England By The Pound, or Todd Rundgren's A Wizard/A True Star). If Lindsey had wanted to do an hour long album on one piece of vinyl in the '70s or '80s he would have done it.

We don't know how long these tracks on the album are going to be, so we don't know how long the album itself will be. Going by the average song length on SYW (four minutes) I'd say that Under The Skin will be well over 40 minutes but probably slightly shorter than OOTC. Unless Lindsey has gone all "D. W. Suite" on our asses once again.

I'm not really too considered about the length of the album. Some of my favourite albums like Nick Drake's Pink Moon or Francis Albert Sinatra And Antonio Carlos Jobim are less than half an hour long. Yet there's nothing that I could ever imagine adding to those, they're short and sweet perfection as they are.

Maybe Lindsey actually took some hint from the critics of SYW, most of who wrote that the CD was way too long. And according to what we've read he stripped down his songs so most of the fans get what they want too. Is the old man catering down to our tastes? ;)

If the album is cohesive like this, it'll be good. The only thing that bothers me is the amount of "new" (meaning "new to us") songs. I agree with Stefan that the electric CD won't probably happen at all. So in that case maybe an album with the length of SYW consisting mostly of songs we haven't heard before would've been better anyway.

I am not looking for a collection of 16 loose songs. I want an album that lives on it's own, where the tracks need eachother and hang together. I want quality, not quantity. Believe me I've waited just as long as you for this but nonetheless, the remark 11 songs in 14 years is bull to my ears.

And that electric one is ready. I'm sure.

Not to mention my username which has so far appeared in three of his songs.

Personally I'm more interested in the (likely) musical self-quotations this time around. Will we get another piece in the "Big Love" > "Doing What You Can" > "Big Love" (acoustic) > "Miranda" continuum? How about another guitar solo in the vein of "I'm So Afraid"/"Tango In The Night"/"Murrow"? Not that it bothers me much, because so far the atmospheres on those "recycled" tracks have differed notably to me and that's what matters to me the most.

I can't even imagine the "acidpissing" (good term that, Gerald) when we actually hear the music on the album. But maybe at least I should hear it before I start speculating any further. :o

I agree with you, Gaius. But Don't stop speculating. I've tried to survive as a ledgie all this time and now that we can use our fantasy in interesting times I don't want you to bite your tongue. But let's use our fantasy to provide some nice foreplay so our boners will be gigantic on october 3rd. I don't want to read Ï'm dissappointed because there are just 11 tracks. We waited so long, I just don't understand that this tracklist only can put people down. Nor the fact that His masterful Shut Us down is on this record is considered copying from yourself. It was written for this album, not for that boring movie.

At least we're facing the best albumtitle in FM-related releases since decades.

i'm glad he's putting Shut Us Down on this one.
That Cameron Crowe movie unfortunately is bound for the obscure shelves - so it will be nice for the masses to check out this track.

I think it's a great track listing, if this is really it!:lol: I just love the song"I am waiting", I even have that one as a ringtone on my phone. Regardless of the tracklisting, I already preordered it, it's a Lindsey cd !! :]

I just LOVE the man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree! Except that Under the skin will not find the masses. A lindsey-record is MADE for the obscure shelves. It's never been different, and I'm totally OK with that.

I'm probably going to get crucified for this, but if "I Am Waiting" is indeed on 'Under The Skin,' I hope that Stevie's backing vocals are still in the mix. They were so pretty, and since they're rather unobtrusive, hopefully Buckheads wouldn't complain too much about her presence.

Remind me - what is "I Am Waiting"? again

It's a track that was scrapped from SYW. We heard a snippet of it with Stevie doing vocals on the Destiny Rules documentary and a live version of it sans Stevie on Lindsey's SoundStage DVD.

Oh thats right - I could hear Stevie singing "I Am Waiting" in my head, but couldn't figure out where it was from.

Is it really on SoundStage? I didn't even realise - I may have to watch it again....

It's one of the bonus tracks, if I recall correctly. It's really pretty.

Duh, it is too. Why haven't I listened to this before :shrug: I must put that on my to do list (after I have finished this essay - who am I kidding, if I finish this essay :laugh: )

I Am Waiting is obviously a take-off on I Can't Wait.

It Was You... It Was I. Make up your mind, Bucky Boy and lay the blame already! ;)

What if this whole album is just this horrific racist tract with music?

That would be so bizarre.

Well, there aren't many people whiter than Lindsey.

Have you seen that guy dance? :laugh:

or act?
(ps: this message was too short, sorry)

No different from the cover and the message of Law And Order where Lindsey intentionally imitates old '30s and '40s Finnish movies: because 99,5% of the people in the country had seen just whiteys most of their lives some actors just put some shoe polish on their faces and pretended to be black.

Say, Dobie, I have a feeling you might like this type of cinema.

Anyone notice the track called Juniper? Looks like there will be more lyrical crossover between the songs--"Juniper" is mentioned in Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind.

John

Well, to give Lindsey the benefit of the doubt, since he didn't write "It Was I". That track on Law & Order was a cover of an old late '50s/early '60s hit by Skip & Flip. ("Skip" being recently departed bassist Skip Battin who would go on to be a member in a late '60s/early '70s incarnation of the Byrds and a mid-'70s incarnation of the Flying Burrito Bros and even later, New Riders Of The Purple Sage)

"I Am Waiting", yeah, is a Stones cover (therefore NO relation to "I Can't Wait" whatsoever), but "Try For The Sun" is also a cover, written by Donovan.

Knowing THAT tidbit of trivia, then could "Juniper" be a nod toward Donovan's song "Jennifer Juniper", and NOT "SGCYM"?

I AM surprised that "She Smiled Sweetly" didn't make the cut on this album...maybe it'll be on the next one. (and, hopefully "Gotta Get Away")

And, to all those who are sniping about Lindsey "re-releasing songs", get real, GOS was never OFFICIALLY released (nor at this point, INTENDED for release), therefore, we really should never have known about those songs.

Chili you're right about this. But on the other hand there still is the Soundstage DVD, where 3 tracks from this supposed tracklist appeared. I compare that to the Bleed to love her (The Dance, SYW) thing. He claimed to have a lot of material- so to me it was a nice thing, if he brought it on.

Gerald, you're right too. My main feelings are excitement and surprise about the release of the album. I didn`t believe in this solo album project. I think I am extremely biased because of my experience from 1997 to 2003 where I visited the Reprise website every day and learned to love the "tentatively scheduled" phrase.
Of course quantity is not the main aspect. It was just my hope, knowing Lindsey`s album output rate to build a musical fat belt like some wintersleep-nutria. Musical fatbelt= a lot of songs, which will help us LB fans through the next years. So living in Lindsey world you tend to regard things from a different point of view.
My favourite artist Niels Frevert put out an album with just 37 minutes of music. I didn`t mind because his album fit together perfectly and he doesn`t need 14 years for the next one. :lol:
The quality of the LB songs- I don`t have any doubts I will be pleased. What was missed on SYW- the cohesiveness (is there a word like that in english?) of the album, will be there on the new solo record. I am sure about that. And that`s a good thing.
What we can expect musically... I wouldn`t have classified SGTYM or DOR as acoustic songs. But yes, bass and drums are not prominent there. There still is some vocal layering also. The inclusion of that one indicates what he means about it. A mixture between SUD and DOR So I guess style-wise it won`t be like Springsteen's Ghost of Tom Joad.
All in all I am very much looking forward to it.

Hail to the man who finally breaks the silence.