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aleuzzi 08-08-2006 07:50 PM

Just piano please
 
Fans have probably discussed this before, but does anyone know exactly why Chris insisted on only playing the piano during the Heroes tour? The only written explanation I've ever come across was in a book on the band where the author said something like "she didn't feel like playing anything but the piano." Not particularly helpful.

I have a couple of possible ideas:

1. She did this to get some new perspective on songs she'd done so many times on previous tours.

2. She hadn't toured in months and felt insecure about handling all the keyboards. (just a thought...)

3. Bob's new Heroes songs, like "Bermuda Triangle" demanded some synth, which she either wasn't too keen on playing or couldn't play because she was busy at the keys.

4. She wanted to beef up her piano chops again.

Whhat do you think?

HomerMcvie 08-08-2006 11:27 PM

I think that they needed to flesh out their live sound(since they were down to one guitar), and Bob wanted his keyboard buddy along for the ride.

macfan 57 08-09-2006 05:44 AM

I'll go along with Homer.:nod: With only 1 guitar, they wanted a fuller sound. In one interview, she later said that she wasn't real happy with Doug Graves' keyboards, that she didn't feel he complemented her piano all that well. As far as I'm concerned, the more keyboards the better. I LOVE those heroes boots!

chiliD 08-09-2006 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
In one interview, she later said that she wasn't real happy with Doug Graves' keyboards...

Which could be why they switched to Bob Welch's old Head West bandmate, Bobby Hunt, later in the tour.

macfan 57 08-09-2006 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
Which could be why they switched to Bob Welch's old Head West bandmate, Bobby Hunt, later in the tour.

Wasn't it the other way around? The only bootleg that I have with BH on keyboards is Sausalito. Don Kirshner, Hempstead & Chicago all have DG. I believe Hempstead & Chicago were all recorded in 10/74. Wasn't Sausalito recorded first, then Kirshner, then the 2 October performances.

chiliD 08-09-2006 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
Wasn't it the other way around? The only bootleg that I have with BH on keyboards is Sausalito. Don Kirshner, Hempstead & Chicago all have DG. I believe Hempstead & Chicago were all recorded in 10/74. Wasn't Sausalito recorded first, then Kirshner, then the 2 October performances.

I saw 'em twice during that time...I was at the Kirshner taping (in late August or early September) when they had Doug (and his wonderful sparkling silver coat). Then I saw them again in mid-December at the Long Beach Arena, Bobby Hunt was with them.

HomerMcvie 08-09-2006 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
Which could be why they switched to Bob Welch's old Head West bandmate, Bobby Hunt, later in the tour.

I couldn't remember which one was first, Doug or Bobby.





Yeah, I could've looked it up, or just sat here......;) :laugh:

chiliD 08-09-2006 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
I couldn't remember which one was first, Doug or Bobby.





Yeah, I could've looked it up, or just sat here......;) :laugh:


Well, here's a hypothetical theory... :shrug:

The band decided to add a second keyboard player. Bobby Hunt just happened to drop by the studio (on Welch's invitation) when they did the Sausalito recording...then, when asked to do the tour, Hunt turned down the offer or had a scheduling conflict, so they got Doug. Doug doesn't work out for one reason or another and gets his walking papers, then Welch calls Hunt to join 'em for the last few shows of the tour.

See? It's not a "black & white" issue of whether Bobby Hunt or Doug Graves was "first". I don't think they were as retentive in 1974 as they became by 2003.

macfan 57 08-09-2006 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
Well, here's a hypothetical theory... :shrug:

The band decided to add a second keyboard player. Bobby Hunt just happened to drop by the studio (on Welch's invitation) when they did the Sausalito recording...then, when asked to do the tour, Hunt turned down the offer or had a scheduling conflict, so they got Doug. Doug doesn't work out for one reason or another and gets his walking papers, then Welch calls Hunt to join 'em for the last few shows of the tour.

That makes sense.

David 08-09-2006 10:52 PM

I don't think Christine really enjoyed battling it out with these serious B3 players.

Although one of those guys plays some pad on "Bermuda Triangle" on that TV show & it really doesn't interfere with anything. It just complements the others.

chiliD 08-10-2006 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Although one of those guys plays some pad on "Bermuda Triangle" on that TV show & it really doesn't interfere with anything. It just complements the others.

That would be Doug Graves. ;)

David 08-10-2006 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
That would be Doug Graves. ;)

Why is that guy's last name "Graves"?? I mean ... that's so ... cryptic.

macfan 57 08-10-2006 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Why is that guy's last name "Graves"?? I mean ... that's so ... cryptic.

David, Doug Graves has since passed away. According to Bob Welch in one of his Q & A's, he died of AIDS.

David 08-10-2006 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
David, Doug Graves has since passed away. According to Bob Welch in one of his Q & A's, he died of AIDS.

Err........ rest in peace, Doug.

HomerMcvie 08-10-2006 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
David, Doug Graves has since passed away. According to Bob Welch in one of his Q & A's, he died of AIDS.

Whew, and I thought I was the only David that liked to insert his foot into his mouth!:lol:




Rest in peace, Doug.

chiliD 08-11-2006 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by David
Why is that guy's last name "Graves"?? I mean ... that's so ... cryptic.

Who's to say that it is pronounced "Grayvs"...could be "Grah'-vays" or "Grah-vess". :shocked:

And, the reason his last name is that is presumably because it's his father's last name...and his grandfather's...and great-grandfather's... (you get my drift).

Captain Literal strikes again! :laugh:

michelle2677 08-11-2006 10:49 AM

^^ ok, so the better question is:
why did his parents name him "doug":shocked:

aleuzzi 08-13-2006 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677 (Post 559523)
^^ ok, so the better question is:
why did his parents name him "doug":shocked:

Well done, Michelle! Match, point, set.

David 08-15-2006 12:46 PM

I have my doubts that Christine ever really played these pianos.

But more on that later.

michelle2677 08-15-2006 05:57 PM

and the plot thickens.......

jbrownsjr 08-17-2006 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 560768)
I have my doubts that Christine ever really played these pianos.

But more on that later.


she only knows the keys of b flat, and c major as well

HomerMcvie 08-17-2006 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 561626)
she only knows the keys of b flat, and c major as well

SYLM is in A
Ask Anybody is in Bb(I think. My memory's fading on this one)
Brown Eyes is in Bm
Wish You Were Here is in C
Never Make Me Cry is in C#(again, if I remember correctly)
Why is in D
Don't Stop is in E
Think About Me is in F
Over and Over is in G


I can't think of any songs in Eb, Ab, or Gb.....

jbrownsjr 08-17-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 561660)
SYLM is in A
Ask Anybody is in Bb(I think. My memory's fading on this one)
Brown Eyes is in Bm
Wish You Were Here is in C
Never Make Me Cry is in C#(again, if I remember correctly)
Why is in D
Don't Stop is in E
Think About Me is in F
Over and Over is in G


I can't think of any songs in Eb, Ab, or Gb.....

you are absolutely no fun today.... no capital letters for you!

HomerMcvie 08-17-2006 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 561664)
you are absolutely no fun today.... no capital letters for you!

Oh bull! I'm always fun! Don't you like my new sig?:blob2: :blob2: :blob2: I would've NEVER put something sooo vulgar there, until the PC police started in on me.....

jbrownsjr 08-17-2006 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 561660)
SYLM is in A
Ask Anybody is in Bb(I think. My memory's fading on this one)
Brown Eyes is in Bm
Wish You Were Here is in C
Never Make Me Cry is in C#(again, if I remember correctly)
Why is in D
Don't Stop is in E
Think About Me is in F
Over and Over is in G


I can't think of any songs in Eb, Ab, or Gb.....

she can't play c# only d flat

HomerMcvie 08-17-2006 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 561697)
she can't play c# only d flat

yo mama (look, no caps!)

Johnny Stew 08-17-2006 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 561671)
I would've NEVER put something sooo vulgar there, until the PC police started in on me.....

Wow, so much for our truce, huh? :shrug:

HomerMcvie 08-17-2006 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 561716)
Wow, so much for our truce, huh? :shrug:

I lost my pen.....

(but, for the record, I WOULDN'T have ever actually MADE that my sig, until you chimed in).
Have a good day. I'm off to church.

David 08-18-2006 10:43 AM

I don't think you two will ever be really close friends. You seem to rub each other the wrong way.

But all is not lost, however, because you can still discuss the mechanics of making music (just don't discuss artistry or artists).

jbrownsjr 08-18-2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 562096)
(just don't discuss artistry or artists).

or clothing, or politics, or religion, or food, or sports, or geography..

jbrownsjr 08-18-2006 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 562154)
or clothing, or politics, or religion, or food, or sports, or geography..

or mathematics...

jbrownsjr 08-18-2006 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 562155)
or mathematics...

or ceramics

Johnny Stew 08-18-2006 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 562159)
or ceramics

or diuretics... or Dianetics....

jbrownsjr 08-18-2006 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 562190)
or diuretics... or Dianetics....


or hairweaves, or fashion or crochet

Johnny Stew 08-18-2006 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 562298)
or hairweaves, or fashion or crochet

or croquet, or Krokus....

HomerMcvie 08-19-2006 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 562154)
or clothing, or politics, or religion, or food, or sports, or geography..

I'm home from church now. It was great!:blob2:










Jeezus has all the money....

jbrownsjr 08-20-2006 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 562557)
I'm home from church now. It was great!:blob2:










Jeezus has all the money....

or cars, soda, or scrunchies

HomerMcvie 08-20-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 562811)
or cars, soda, or scrunchies

Or beer, wine, or porn.

jbrownsjr 08-21-2006 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 562814)
Or beer, wine, or porn.

or nationalities, eastern block countries, or stuff cabbage

HomerMcvie 08-21-2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 563026)
or nationalities, eastern block countries, or stuff cabbage

I love stuffED cabbage!


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