Mirage Live
 

Did anyone else think that the Mirage live video was AWFUL!? Stevie really strains her voice and for some reason Lindsey is snogging the microphone during 'Not that Funny'. Certain songs remain a mystery to me - why are Not that Funny and Sisters of the Moon even on there? As far as I know, they were not singles. I much prefer the Tango in the Night video except for Stevie's close-up's that were clearly done seperatly (what was with that!?) however White Wing Dove live Kicks ALL the FM live video's.

Stevie was really workin' the vibrato/goat thing, I noticed. Especially during Gypsy. I loved SOTM, though.

He's doing a lot more than that during Not That Funny.

Have to agree. The whole thing was quite scary. Not That Funny especially. I hope I never have to endure it again. The only real reason to dig it out agian are Rhiannon, SOTM and to a certain small extent Gypsy.
Not to mention the video and sound quality was abysmal.

PS: The Dance is top of my list, followed closely by Tango. Had Lindsey been there it would have been perfect. The whole thing was stunning. Sure, the close-ups were done separately, but she looked HOT.
And Gold Dust Woman on that video is to kill or die for. :nod:

Oh yeah - I love this version of GDW, as you can tell from my signature - I love the "No, No, No, No, Not Again Baby... Not Again" on the ending of the late 80's GDW's - so amazing.

If anyone has the song ripped to MP3, please share :D

Amazing indeed. :nod:

I have it... One moment please.

Woah, that's crazy talk!! Stevie's voice was terrible on the Tango video. I can't listen to it, it's passionless and sounds like it's been processed through a computer. At least the Mirage concert has some rawness and passion!
As for playing Not That Funny and Sisters Of The Moon when they weren't singles: Yep, it's terrible when bands play songs that weren't singles. I hope they never play The Chain, Eyes Of The World and Gold Dust Woman and many other concert faves if that's the case.
Funnily enough though Not That Funny and Sisters Of The Moon were actually singles. I have 7" singles for both. :)


You need to get an original VHS copy then. The sound and picture quality is much better than on the ropey DVD that was released.

The Dance version? I have the CD version that was a b-side of one of the Dance singles somewhere. Let me see if I can find it. I posted it before in the past along with the other missing songs from the Dance CD. :)

Gold Dust Woman from Tango in the Night Live, 1987

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...484C4764D61A01

Enjoy! I know I did.

No, no, Im talking about the TITN version - I already have the version off the Dance :D Thanks anyway!

I love the Mirage concert!!!!!!

:xoxo: Cheers!

Actually, the performance was in 1987.

I've always felt the Mirage shows were less than cohesive. That's understandable considering the band dynamics at the time.:nod:

I love this version - but still prefer the GDW from the OSOTM shows :D

Woops, my bad.

Cheerfully corrected! :thumbsup:


GDW from OSOTM? Sounds interesting. Can anyone post? I'd love to hear this.

Do it again and youre banned!;) :lol:

Certainly - here is my personal favourite:

Gold Dust Woman - Live Rotterdam, Netherlands 1989

Its great because Stevie still does the "No No No Not Again...Not Again Baby" but also does "Not to Be...Not Again...Not to be...." :cool:

Its off the hook!!!! :blob1:

It's on a par with talking about some guy called Lindsay Buckingham. :eek: ;)


Looking forward to listening, thank you!

I can't decide if I prefer the "no no no not again" ending or the "you should see me now" from Australia this year. I thought that was pretty interesting too ... Decisions decisions!

Thanks again! :thumbsup:

I think she's saying "Not to me"
("No, not again, baby ... not to me")

Here's praying for a speedy recovery!

Either way it sounds amazing....

Her vocal on this track great but I was especially taken with the music and how it was done. Sort of unusual for GDW but I can't really put my finger on it ... stronger, somehow, more strident.

Or maybe that's just me.

Awesome stuff. Thanks so much!

Isn't it fabulous :D The music has got that magic feel to it that all the OSOTM shows have, alot like the album :nod:

EDIT: She says "Not to Me" in other GDW's in this tour like the Houston, TX show - But in this one she is totally saying "Not again baby, not to be" :D

I love Mirage because you get the music as is. Christine plays an upright, they do play a lot of non-singles. I hate when a band plays nothing but singles. It's not overproduced, It's not full of back up players. They don't care about getting every note right. Or harmonies for that matter! :lol:

A agree wholeheartedly. The imprefection gives it a certain bit of character that you lack in LIB/The Dance.

I totally agree.:nod: The only thing I don't like about the Mirage video is that it was edited down to just 13 songs. I would have preferred that they had released the entire set. I LOVE the Dance DVD, but the Mirage video is an actual concert from the Mirage tour. The Dance is a bit more like a studio release. And, there's really nothing wrong with the quality, if you have the original released videotape. I HOPE that someday it will be officially released on DVD.

this is exactly what I was about to say.

also, I don't think Stevie sounds horrible. her voice is strained...which is nothing new, but, to me, it really works during this concert. I do think Gypsy is a little off due to the vibrato. I know from experience that when your voice is strained, vibrato tends to show up more, it's just unconcious.

Stvie had walking pneumonia during this tour, & many dates were postponed, including the nights filmed for the video.

It's just a whole different Stevie that you wouldn't be used to if you turned on to Stevie during The Dance or later. And of course as has already been mentioned, this was back in the day when the four musicians were practically the only people playing the music. Some fans love that & some don't. It was an entirely different era in live music, & probably sounds alien to young people who have no direct experience of a relatively small combo actually playing live onstage. It's that old Woodstock mentality from the '60s. These days, there are millions of dollars at stake so bands pad themselves out live with human & electronic equipment.

People playing music live without mechanical/electronic adornments has been around since Ogg started beating on rocks with bones from a wolly mammoth...it didn't just start when John Sebastian took the stage in Bethel in '69.

Shame on you, David.

I was there...if you had been, too, you'd have a whole different outlook.

Why do you say that?:confused:

Let me explain my position. I didn't say this phenomenon started in the '60s. I said that it was part of that '60s mentality & it was. In fact, I remember the KLOS jocks remarking on this phenomenon during their live, on-scene coverage of the US Festival in 83 during Stevie's set. They were comparing & contrasting the clean, professional, "perfect" quality of Stevie's backup band -- guys hired specifically to make no mistakes -- with the bands at Woodstock (& elsewhere in the '60s & early '70s), who were more likely to jam around freely & be out of tune & just be generally rougher.

Mary Anne has undoubtedly heard or seen entire 82 shows. I saw the shows throughout the state that year & I loved em so much I'd have been thrilled with an uncut video record. I'd have been happier with the Irvine Meadows benefit (which I felt was more noticeably powerful & packed a bigger emotional wallop) on video, but the Forum shows were good enough in my book.

Same here!!! One of my favorites!!! :blob2: :blob1: :D

I was at The Dance concert in Atlanta and while waiting for the gates to open, someone had the audio of the live Mirage version of Gypsy playing. It sounded good when heard that way for some reason.

My beef about that recording is they were all way too wasted and they sang out of key more than once.

They also look unhappy and burnt out.

That being said, that version of SOTM flat out rocks even though it is way scary.

People bring a lot of their own emotional lives into their views of the band. To me, the band looks very happy, enjoying its status & the rough energy of its appeal.

Oh, but so was 80% of the audience at the two shows filmed, as well.


Depends on which night of the filming...one night was all "lovey dovey" between them, the other they were shooting daggered looks at each other throughout the performance...a smack-down could've broken out on stage at any moment. Kudos to the poor guys/girls who were given the job of editing the footage and sound.

SOTM and Rhiannon are both classic performances, in my book.

Rhiannon was the end of an era. I still cringe when she strains her voice on the high notes and am still in awe when she widens her eyes while singing in profile.

Also - isn't the gauzey back of that dress incredible!

I always quote Stevie with these are the moments that I live for

you ain't never lied. Rhiannon was certainly the end of an era...and that dress is simply fabulous. I love how when she turns around to do the vamping that she folds it behind her and the tips sway like dove tails. oh, I could plotz.

I guess I love, too, the energy that comes out of actually being tired off your ass...that's what I get from the Mirage concert.

You know, that's why I LIKE the Mirage video. :shrug: It wasn't perfect, it wasn't too retouched, it wasn't overedited to make it look like an MTV video or movie. It's about as close as you can get to a real concert, IMO. Yeah, they're off-key a whole bunch. Yeah, I'm not really a fan of LB going down on the mike during NTF. But these are great, emotional performances.

I loathe the TITN DVD, but I'll agree with you that the WWD vid takes the cake. Fabulous, that one. :nod:

Really? I didn't know they were singles. They certainly weren't in the UK. I have no problem with bands playing songs that weren't singles but 1. why for the encore and 2. why put them on the tour video?