IDWTK yet again...........
 

Hi all,

Yet again i pester the talented guitar players on our forum. Please have a look through your wealth of tabs and see do you have the tabs to the solo on IDWTK. For some reason they are nowhere to be found on any website.

I do want to know

my best

Paul

Didn't I post the published tab for that solo here already?

You sure did david, and thanks.
wasnt that the .pdf document. i think it was a scanned image.
but it was impossible to make it out.

i couldnt make head nor tail of it.

Doesn't anyone just listen to the track and play along over & over until they learn the song anymore? With CDs that should be a whole f***ing lot easier than the old days when you had to pick up the tone arm and try to hit a specific spot on the LP. I think guitarists (and to a lesser extent, bassists) have gotten WAY too overly reliant on posted tabs.

ChiliD,

I really "hear" what your saying, i just dont have the ear for it or something. i would love to be able to just play it the way i hear it.
Also i never thought of how hard it would have been back in the days of LP's., golly.

I can barely figure out how to sturm basic three chord songs without having to know the chords. However in the last few months though, if someone tells me what key a song is in i could figure out what chords we are likely to find.

But fair play to the guys (and girls) that can play just by hearing it. i just hope someday with all my practicing i'll eventuall get that part sussed too.


paul

Nobody round heres gonna make this less painless than what it already is, and just tell me the F**kin tabs.

your all at your computers sayin "he'll never learn anything if we just keep giving him all the answers"

Fair enough.

Boy do I ever feel the same way. I think guitarists are definitely getting lazier these days. But at the same time I would also love the tab ;)

What better way to TRAIN your "ear for it"-ness? :shrug:

I second Madness Fades. I would also really appreciate it if someone posted the tabs for this with the solo. I really suck at guitar and having never taken lessons, when I try to figure something out it usually comes out wrong. You get so used to hearing it your way (the wrong way :confused: ) that it becomes harder and harder to figure out how to play the part the correct way.

They were posted already several months ago. I don't know why Madness had trouble reading or downloading the file--it was a standard PDF file. Someone would have to do a search on this forum's archive.

Searched the archive but for the love of me I can't find the bloody tab. Anyone have a link?

Yeah David but its gone now.

TomBanks posted a thread called Im Waiting a few months ago. and that was the thread i asked for the IDWTK tabs.
David you defo posted them. however the link to the tab has expired. this hosting site must only host the stuff for 30 days or whatever..................
not to worry though lad, dont be going to any bother.

paul

"Correct way"?? Why be a "copyist"? So what if you learn it a little differently than the original? Did Lindsey nag Mick for tabs to play "Oh Well" note for note like Peter Green? No.

If you don't start tapping into your OWN creativity now, you most likely never will. Learn the songs, but learn them your own way. (just know when too much is too much...Lindsey's abomination of George Harrison's "Here Comes The Sun" as a prime example)

I totally get what yer sayin chilliD, I'm gonna try harder to "Tap in " and play what i here. Could be messy for the first few months. hope my girlfriend has earplugs.

however "ENOUGH ALREADY about HCTS - I like it" In fact im gonna play it now just despite you..

Here comes the sun Dut en du du ...................la la la

How about all of those instrumental layers in IDWTK. I'm positive I hear a piano playing in the rhythm somewhere in the background. It also sounds like he used three different guitars in the mix. The rhythm guitar is acoustic, the lead that kind of builds up sounds like it might be a strat (?), and for the solo maybe a les paul with a lot of reverb/delay (?). That bass line carries the song though.

Did you ever find your solo tablature?

i did indeed David. but im co caught up with trying to finish learning NGBA that i dont have the time for it right now. Do you know how slow i am at trying to learn songs????
Any thanks again and if anyone wants to see the tab i'll gladly post it this time round.

What we really need though in a website with all lindsey buckinghams tabs 100% correct. All versions , all albums all songs hes ever done. Anyone up for the challenge???

Great idea. I don't tab, otherwise I'd help. Les of Madness Fades originally planned to post all the published sheet music of LB material on her site (www.madnessfades.net). I own I think all the published LB sheet music because I read staff notation.

If you could post the tab that would be really awesome. I'm starting to get it down from just listening to it over and over but it would be cool to see the way Lindsey played it.

I was thinking about it the other day and if they go on tour again I can't see why they wouldn't play IDWTK, after they brought out Second Hand News last time around. It's the only song I can think of from Rumours that hasn't been played live by FM as a band. Stevie has said that she loves singing it with Lindsey (believe it was in the Rumours DVD-a interview). Maybe they'll play it in the same style as the Buckingham-Nicks live version. who knows

Yup! It'll take some time but would be well worth doing! I've done tabs for a few songs already using Guitar Pro and PowerTab(which is free) and I can export them as image files. They include both standard notation and tablature and (if such a project was to be undertaken) would be IMO the best way to present them since they include timings etc. and make it so much easier to learn than those nasty tab files. Plus there is MIDI playback to give you the general idea of whether you are on the right lines or not. It also allows for bass, keyboards and drums (and most other instruments) to be tabbed so is very useful for doing complete tabs of each instrument, not just guitar. There programs also allow you to export them as text files, so we could have plenty of options on how to display them. Let me know what you think of that idea. Of course I'm not saying my tabs are 100% correct though :p

Songs I've done or started so far are:
I'm So Afraid (Completed but I might go over it again)
I'm So Afraid - Live (Started this one ages ago then stopped. I think I might start it again because I'm pretty sure this one is riddled with errors)
Don't Stop (Complete, but the piano is mostly from a MIDI so isn't really too correct.)
Book Of Love (This one baffled me... I tried tabbing)
Monday Morning (There is quite a lot going on in this song so I haven't done to much)
Second Hand News (Complete)
Tango In The Nigh (I have something tabbed for the start but I'll be damned if I can say it's right)
Red Rover (Started work recently and it hasn't been too hard to tab so far)

If this was to go ahead would you perhaps be willing to do the keyboards? The program which I'd recommend (Guitar Pro 5) allows you to work solely in staff notation so it would be easy enough to do them (and they can then be displayed in tab notation). That way we could have a great collection of tabs/sheetmusic for all the songs and all the instruments, not just the guitars and bass.

Here's a sample of what the layout I was talking about can be like. This is a WIP (work in progress) tab, so it's maybe not as tidy as it could be, but it gives a good indication of layout. http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...C8B06F3F58D358

[Tabbing has become somewhat of a hobby of mine so sorry if I'm coming across too enthusiastic. It really does help to improve your ear, but I still have a long way to go...]

Haha, so I've scared everyone off with my over-enthusiasm! :laugh: No-one else want to try it?

haha it looks like it, doesn't it.

I'd be more than happy to help create a place where TABs to all Lindsey's songs are available. I'm "trying" to learn shut us down at the moment but I don't know where to start, lol.

Cool. If we could get a few more people I'm sure we could probably do it. I'm tabbing TITN and Red Rover at theminute and I've just discovered the best program ever for learning songs this morning. It allows you to slow the tempo of songs without changing the pitch and in the last hour since I got it has helped quite a bit.

I've never heard Shut Us Down, so I wouldn't know where to start either :laugh: . Is it a complex song, or quite simple?

Might have been better if he did....

Seteca used to play it in a way similar to LB but I think I've got him to drop that bad habit now. :laugh:


I quite agree. I never had a lesson, I can't read music (to me its a language and I was never really good at languages)and I rarely ever check tabs. I might look at the chords for a song sometimes but 99% I use my ear. Yeah sure, sometimes you get it a little wrong but most of the time you find alternate ways of playing and most importantly you develop the creativity to be able to jam on any given song without even thinking about it. I don't think a lot of modern players, even pros, can actually do this anymore.

As for Lindsey's solos on the albums. They are mostly very easy to learn, yes, even from ear. He doesn't do anything particularly tricky, its basic but it just fits. Unlike his arpeggios which just piss me off with the complexity and timing issues..

I've tried to figure out some of his songs, and some are more difficult than others. I've for the most part got Red Rover down, but on songs like Shut Us Down or even Say Goodbye, I have no idea where to begin! You're right Tom!

And David, I ADORE your sig. I looked for the picture on WireImages but it won't give me a large copy. Would you mind posting it for me? Lindsey + George = :angel:

add me to the list of those trying 'shut us down' but have no clue where to start. it doesn't sound like it's hard, just busy.. but i can't get going on it. very frustrating. :(

has anybody anything from it yet?

When you learn "here comes the sun" the lindsey way you're quite a guitarist. Just know that when everyone who think they can play say that it's over the top, you're way more ahead of an own style then when you try to slicken an original. Rip it apart, deconstruct it and find your own emotion in it. Over the top? If it's you it's you.

On no, here we go again.....

Hey Gerald, did I tell you about Prince??? :D :wavey:

You cannot catch me once starting this fire. You and that other "I'm playing guitar so I know" keep on going bashing that sheer brilliant performance.

Reread my post and hear what I'm trying to say. I am sure that we donot disagree.

Lindsey is an art-rocker. It is his idiosyncratic take on that song. It's passionate and heartfelt. Stop the I know it better-because I can play attitude. It's irrelevant. His take fits in his development as a performer. I don't see ANY difference in qualtiy with f.i. Shut us down

Okay. I don't think I had a go at Lindsey there but you still attacked me anyway...

"I know better because I can play attitude"??

How tiresome..

I think I've figured it out actually.

People only defend something by coming out with repeated positive statements if they have self doubt about it. Isn't that right?

I don't disagree with the approach Lindsey took or his abilities, I've said that. Its other issues I don't want to discuss yet again. I'm tired of going on about it.. I've moved on.. Which is why I didn't take a bite on your bait the other day. I won't do it here either.. It bores me dude.

"the other guitarist" has a name too btw.

Get over it dude.. Move on... :) :wavey:

get over what?


You just seem to not want to hear me.


PS:

I did not attack you. I did not quote anything.

Look at chili's post you last quoted. THERE you go. You agreed. You two constantly bash that performance.

I LOVE IT

I LOVE IT

I LOVE IT

Come on justin.

How many times did you defend slowhand and that other JJcale- copy?


crappy argument.

Get over having to use it as an example every time you want to point something out. Try using something different. Or is it just to direct it at Steve and myself?

Oh I hear you and I understand what you are saying regarding it as art etc.

I'm not attacking the concept or the idea, just the application.

Yes exactly, the performance..

I'm very pleased for you, honestly I am. If it gives you joy then its achieved something for someone. :) :wavey:

Yes you are right I was incorrect to be drawn into your arguement and to try and point out examples. I'll refrain in future. Nothing more needs to be said about those artists. They and their bodies of work can speak for themselves.

:wavey:

A suggestion:

It is VERY important, but also very difficult, to learn anything by ear musically. Lindsey's stuff is especially difficult--sometimes, it can seem impossible.

But it isn't.

The people here who are not posting tabs are only trying to help you, of course, but you don't realize it yet. So, here's an alternative:

Try learning it yourself. Spend 2 hours playing it over and over and over. Lindsey's FM stuff is almost always in standard tuning (or drop D), so there's nothing there to really trip you up. Try learning it, post what you think is correct, then we here who know these songs can help push you in the right direction in places wherein you've gone wrong. ChiliD used to do this for me when I started playing. No one here will laugh at a decent attempt. :)

Just a suggestion. Take it or leave it.

Adam

C'mon now kids..stop fighting , lets just kiss and make up, there are worse songs than Here comes the Sun to worry about.....

Yes, worse songs, but, not too many worse performances. :shrug: :rolleyes:

OH!!!! Shush!;) (I'm sure there are, we just can't think of any right now)Actually, I disagree, I think he did very well on the night, wasn't that the "hole in the side guitar" he used?