Ask a Ledgie a Question
 

This was David's idea & there's already one of these in the Stevie Forum, but I wanted to start one here too. It doesn't have to be Mac related, it could be a question about anything. I don't think people want to get too personal ("where exactly do you live, what's your phone number") due to possible internet kooks, but you can always choose not to answer. Also, please keep questions like "how long is your penis?" or "wanna make out?" confined to PMs. Strand. :cool:

You can just answer, but it would be cool if you could ask another Ledgie another question to keep the thread going.

Chili: I think you've mentioned that you've attended all Mac tours. Do you know how many shows total? Do you remember the cities/venues/dates or anything like that?

Amber: How far do you think you walk in a week? You walk & bike most places, I'm just curious if you have any idea about distances? You are the long distance winner, IMO.

Seeker: Working in Vegas, have you met a lot of famous people? Were they nice, or jerky?

Don't you have some gays to bait :eek: :p :p

Not "all" tours...but every tour since 1974.
52 shows in all..that's ONLY Fleetwood Mac as a whole. All shows were in Southern California.
Venues I've seen them:
Long Beach Center Theatre
Long Beach Arena
Santa Monica Civic Auditorium
Anaheim Stadium
Loyola Marymount University Gymnasium
GW Forum (MOST shows were here)
Universal Amphitheatre
San Diego Sports Arena
Arrowhead Pond
Irvine Meadows Amphitheatre
University Of California, Santa Barbara football field (the "Rosebud" show)


Solo shows:

Lindsey Buckingham: 1 (Wiltern Theatre)
Stevie Nicks: 4 (2 on the RAL tour, 1 Street Angel, 1 Enchanted)
Peter Green: 3 (with the PGSG, 1998 at the Long Beach Blues Festival, 1999 at the Ventura Theatre, 2001 at the Disneyland House Of Blues)
Rick Vito: 5 (plus once when he was with Jackson Browne's band)
Bob Welch: 10 (includes 2 with Paris, 1 with Avenue M)

Plus:

Walter Egan: 4 (only ONE of the four shows did NOT have Stevie Nicks and/or Lindsey Buckingham show up on stage with him, one show at the Roxy also had Mick & John in the audience)

John Stewart: 1 (during his Bombs Away Dream Babies tour...he played a Turner Model 1 throughout the show).

And, of course, the infamous 1976 Eric Clapton show where I sat in close proximity to 4 of the 5 then current FMac members.

EDIT: And, well, gee...thanks for asking.

Evidently I just did. :cool:

I'm jealous, you bastard. Of course, I probably hadn't even been born yet when you attended those shows (Egan and Stewart anyway), BUT STILL!

A question for lil'ol' me? :eek: :shocked:

well.....

I have met a number of famous folks through the years. Most are very nice, but some are very "JERKY".

Jerky List:

1. Barbara Streisand - saw from afar. She is number one Jerk, as she doesn't want "those" people to look at her. She made the "help" walk back wards so they wouldn't make eye contact.

2. Sting. - Gods gift to himself. Total Twit

3. Lionel Ritchie - Band was nice, he was very "sting-like". (Stuck up git)

4. Some rap idiot. - Not into rap music, but patrons were astonished when I didn't care who he was and threw him out for inappropriate behavior. "Don't you know who that was?" and I said "someone who thinks fame and money buys respect and manners. I wouldn't let you do that crap, so I am not letting him either. " (Dennis Rondman was thrown out of the Bellagio recently for acting like a fool. So, there is a limit).

Most of the famous folks appreciate being treated like a normal person and are low key. Only a few need the attention all the time or think they are above everyone else. If they do something stupid the entire strip knows within minutes (Very tight, small community - casino workers).

:shocked: are you serious? saw this with your own eyes? oh my...

Yup, why I won't support her in anyway. She can "stuff" it. :mad: and yes I stared right at her. (Don't think she saw me, and I didn't care if she did.)

Sting
 

I've heard that he's a jerk...more than once.

Barbara...not surprised in the least. "Those" people? Like, who...the "little people"? LOL Nah, those people don't buy your albums or see your movies. Pfftt.

Was the rap idiot...Kanye West or someone less well known?

damn. that hurts my everything...

You know, I have no idea. I don't listen to rap. Must have been "somebody" the way folks were acting. I didn't care, there are certain levels of public manners and he didn't have any, thought normal rules didn't apply to him. So..."CYA"

Sorry. Wish it had been different. :sorry: Not an isolated case, from what I hear.

My curiosity has gotten the best of me. Thanks for the break.

Paula, what the hell is Sister of the Boob? Did that have to do with someone pinching Stevie's boob in a poster???

:lol: Stevie's been wearing corsets forever as you know and the girls get captured on film quite nicely at times. Especially during the Edge walk. Somehow that morphed into "Sisters of the Boob". :shrug:

Okay, I should just let P explain since she is way funnier than me. Here I am butting in where I haven't been asked. :lol:

gldstwmn...is GDW your favorite?
and if so, why? (i know, why not!)

Without extra excercising, I bike about 400 blocks a week. That is if I go to Earthjustice 3 days that week. (sometimes I go more, sometimes less). That also includes my regular errands like trips to the store for groceries.

I don't walk much anymore unless I am excercising, as it can hurt my knee. But before I got the bike I would walk to work and back most days (or rollerblade) and same thing to do my errands, so I probably did about 275 blocks a week with that. Over 300 with sundries.
Now I mainly walk to BART & back, and school, which is about 50 blocks a week.
When I do that bike up the hill then hike up the steep hill excercise thing...I do it for usually between an hour and two hours each time, the hike part is between 45 min and 1 1/2 hours. I didn't do it for the past 8 weeks or however long it was raining constantly, but typically I did and will do that between 2-4 times a week. It's pretty hard, you've seen the hill. It's actually why my legs are so very pained right now, but hopefully I can resolve that soon - I'll probably only do once or twice a week for the next couple weeks, especially since I'll have the extra Earthjustice biking and also finals...
Oh, and I do weights, too - arms and calves and sit ups and bun-ups - but only about 4 times a week, I could do a lot more. Sometimes I only do one set. But my body is just killing me right now in the thigh and hip area, it's sapping my strength.

What I need to do is more yoga, I usually only get about 2 hours a week in...:( It hurts to do it more now cause of my legs, and also it is more difficult for me to do quiet, slow exercises - I can't calm down and it's too dull, I like me the fast, hard movement. I make myself, though. :woohoo:

Thanks for asking, you know how I do love to go on and on about this boring crap! :xoxo:
And if anyone is wondering why I'm not thinner, go f**k yourselves!!! :laugh: (I just lost 2 more pounds, though. It must have been the beer ;) ).

:wavey:

My question is for...Paula -
are you really happily married? Why don't you guys get bored? How have you stayed together for so long? Do you laugh a lot together? Do you give each other lots of space? What's the deal?

Oh, apparently 12 blocks equals a mile, just found that out. So, that's only about 30 miles/week...

I came up with the idea to put "gldstwmn" on my license plate. I relate to the song in a lot of ways but after a while I decided that wasn't something I really wanted to hold on to so... I bought a new car and decided I wasn't that in love with vanity plates. Lo and behold, one day I'm over on the Nicks Fix and someone has "gldstwmn" on a license plate. So maybe I inspired them to put it on a license plate, who knows? :lol:
As for my favorite performances of the song, I like the alternate version that is on 25 Years The Chain box set. For live performances, I prefer the era where she yells "Pick it up!" If I remember correctly it would be Street Angel era. I also love when she ad libs "You don't want to see it." I specifically remember her doing this at the AHI benefit in 2000. I also find myself saying "Pick up the pieces and move on" when things don't go the way I or others expect them to in life. So thank you Stevie for that little bit of wisdom. :lol:
Now I have a question for you. You are so good with graphics, is that what you do for a living? If not, then you should. Cha ching!

Congrats on the 2 lbs! You know, we tend to minimize "small" losses like that but it really isn't small. You had to burn 7,000 calories to lose that. Thing about a 2 lb hunk of meat, it's not that small! ;) Good for you.

I also recently lost 2 lbs. So I'm down 4 since beginning my dedicated gym routine at the end of Jan. That's just over a pound a month. But I've kicked it up this month and am going about 2x as often and am much stronger and have much higher endurance. So I'm burning more calories each time I go. Plus it is making me feel really good so I'm becoming addicted. I can't wait to go today. Isn't that weird? ;)

Amber, don't be afraid to take some ibuprofen or something for your legs. Sometimes we forget that we can do that. Stretch more often if you can too. I know what you mean about it being boring. I have to force myself sometimes too. But it feels so good when you're done!

Good job, Suze! I'm not afraid, I take it all the time, that's what I'm afraid of - and have been for months now. I've also had a vicoden prescrip for the past couple months.
Do I really strike you as the kind of person who would take pain rather than take medicine??? :laugh:
It's not weird to want to go, I love to exercise. It's long been my raison d'etre. (Did you see how french I was right then? Score!) So you do more than 2 hours of yoga or stretching a week?
I'm mad today b/c it's foggy and I was going to do the hill. Maybe it'll burn off later in the day. :)
I told everyone about coconuts and coconut oil, right?

This question is for Amber:

Can you please tell us about the coconuts and the coconut oil? ;)

Besides numerous other benefits (antimicrobial, antiviral, antiaging, anticancer, anti heart disease), it helps you lose weight. If you type Coconut Oil into Google, many articles come up, you could peruse those as well. It is very interesting indeed. And especially how other food oil companies ran smear campaigns against coconut oil - which is very clearly the most beneficial oil you can use for cooking/baking/eating/skin.
Here is one.
http://www.naturodoc.com/library/nut...oconut_oil.htm

I'm going to have to look into coconut oil because that sounds great. I am working today though, OT for extra Kenya money!

I just know sometimes people just think its for headaches and don't take it for muscle or other kinds of aches. I should've known that wasn't the case with you. It really sucks you're having that kind of pain!

I don't do more than 2 hours of stretching a week, no. But I stretch after I workout. My current gym does not offer yoga right now but I hope they add it.

Wow, that is odd. I've never heard of a gym without yoga.
But I just do tapes at home, myself. You know, when I do them? :laugh: I went to classes first, though, it is kind of important to have someone teach you the proper way to hold poses and breathe - it is easy to do poses improperly, and it cuts many of the benefits when you do.
For instance, one hard thing in yoga is to think of the pose not as a goal, but a journey. The important thing is to breathe into your body, not strain your body to reach an end result that you think the pose should be. Keep aligned and breathe.
That's kind of a hard lesson, for me and others - because of course it's just nature to want to "get the pose right". But really you have to "keep your body breathing and balanced".
oops, guess I went on and on again. I should do some yoga right now, especially as I'm listening to the Tango record, and You and I Part Barf just came on.
Blergh. C'mon, Lindsey! :laugh:
Yeah, Coconut oil is the shizz. If you read more about it, you'll probably get really excited about it and be astonished like I am.
I can't believe you're going to Kenya. So awesome.

:lol: As opposed to part vomit? :lol:

You, you, you, you, you, and I are listening to the same album!

Isn't that weird?

Be careful not to eat too much coconut. They say if you are stranded on a desert island, eating too much coconut milk and meat (thereby oils) leads to violent diarrhea and dehydration. This has been - Dumb trivia you don't really need. :p

:lol: :lol: :lol:

No, that's great. I don't eat nearly that much. I finished a coconut a few days ago, and want to get another today. I used a little oil to cook some chicken.
It's fine.
Great, now I'll totally remember that, because I like stupid trivia, too! :mad: *shakes fist*.

I just want to take this opportunity to say that Nightbird on vinyl almost creeps me out. Or...something...not really scary creepy, but I guess it's just darker tinged. The dichotomy between the vocal, which sounds more major to me, and the music that sounds a bit more minor - and the swirling, dipping harmonies - I almost felt like it would be played in some movie when the girl is really happy but is just stepping into the forest of sadness, and is becoming aware of the change in the tone of her surroundings...like she went down the wrong trail...there is also something a little overwhelming about it. It's sooo lush.
But that same quality in the vinyl makes Stand Back spectacular. Stand Back is more consistent within itself, it's all dark tinged. But in a more mechanical way.

It didn't seem to bother Tom Hanks...:rolleyes:

In the supermarket, how can you tell when a coconut is good or bad? The last few I've tried to pick up, it seems the milk is sour.

I guess you can't. I looked online to see what the meat should look/smell like when you open it up. Also, I pour all the liquid in the coconut down the drain.
Maybe check online again, there might be something. I've eaten about 4, and so far so good.

I can't remember exactly how it started, but during the SYW tour, there were so many people posting pics they had taken & Stevie's ta-ta's were very visible in most of them. :p It was brought up in a thread (by me? Suze? Amber? not sure) and as soon as one person mentioned it, everyone started replying that they noticed her boobs too.

Yes, we were/are aware that she had put on a few pounds, and yes we were/are aware that the girls are squashed up with much help from bras & corset & such. BUT - they looked great! :eek: I wasn't sure why I was so enthralled with her chest, but I was & so were other straight gals here. So, I wrote a parody to Sister of the Moon & made up a club for us gals. Then, of course some of the gays wanted in :rolleyes: (the gays love me, you know), so I made them brothers of the boob. It's not really a club, there's no special jacket or anything (although, that would be way cool...) but it kind of stuck & here we are.

I just looked for my song, but I think it's gone, swept away when they cleaned out The Ledge of old posts. :mad:





1 - No, not really
2 - We're bored out of our minds
3 - No clue
4 - Yes, but we're laughing at eachother, not with
5 - I like space, planets are cool.

:cool:

OK, OK. Yes! I am truly very happily married. When we got together, we weren't expecting it - neither of us was looking for a long term relationship, since I had just ditched my boyfriend of 3 years & Mark had just gotten out of the Navy (both things happened a few months before we got together.) We had actually met a few years earlier, my ex & he had mutual friends, so it wasn't like he picked me up in a bar or anything - I've known him since I was 16. :shocked:

I actually planned on hooking him up with my friend & she didn't show :p . We started hanging out more & more & it just happened. :shrug: Been together almost 12 years now. And of course you get bored sometimes, but in general we have really similar interests so we have a great time. But we do have enough differences that we can do our own thing too & not be smothered. Damned if he wants to watch old Mac videos with me, and damned if I want to watch him play a video game, so that works out pretty well. We laugh a lot (with AND at eachother) and I feel really lucky to be so happy with my life.

I hope that covered it. I know you probably still don't get it, but I tried. :shrug:


Stew - what was the last concert you attended? Have you always had problems going out in public places, or did it develop over time? Is your partner understanding about it?

~*sigh*~

I miss being married.... so happy to know you are happy, Paula! :xoxo:

Yeah, I remember the back story from Vegas. That was pretty interesting. I guess you answered it - it doesn't sound as complex for you guys as I thought it might be. I guess if you laugh a lot, that goes a long way, because then you aren't bored. Also, you're easy to get along with - husband probably is, too. Oh, I forgot to ask - what sign is your husband?

Lesseee...you asked Stew a question, am I supposed to ask someone else something? It looks like no one else who answered asked anyone anything. :p
Self absorbed son of a ledgie, they are! :laugh:

Um...Strandie - are you going to NOTS?

or how about David - can I be the beneficiary in your will of all your mac stuff?

Paula - being a nurse, what would you recommend for laryngitis? I get it every now and then and feel like I'm getting it now...and just a couple weeks from NOTS, it scares the ****take out of me...

Start sleeping and popping vitamin C like there is no tomorrow. Don't eat sugar, it suppresses the immune system (roughly the amount in a can of soda suppresses it for about 5 hours). Do not get stressed out. Practice yoga, it has amazing healing properties. Eat some walnuts, and some broccoli. Whispering is worse for your voice than talking softly.
Yes, I have changed my name to Paula-the-nurse.

The last concert I attended was also the first concert I attended. :laugh: It was Fleetwood Mac at the Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, on November 19th, 1990.

(Here's my ticket....)
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/452...h1119901yc.jpg

I've attended "Concerts In The Park" by local bands here in my town, and last year I attended a small performance by the Pittsburgh Symphony at a church also here in my town (it was a performance to announce the PSO's involvement with the Performing Arts Center being built here), but the Mac show was the biggest concert I've ever attended.

I've had anxiety problems since I was around 12 or 13, and really didn't like to go many places, but it didn't become extremely serious until I was around 18, when the agoraphobic tendencies really kicked in. I've had ups and downs since then.

Joshua's very understanding about it, and of course I'm hoping that, in time and with his support, it will be a thing of the past. At least to any major degree.

thanks dear. 'ppreciate it.

wisdom indeed :nod:
graphics are a small part of my current job
much more so in previous jobs ive had
i do enjoy as work...but enjoy those
i create as hobby much more :)

thanks for asking :wavey:

Amber,

With you having over 19,000 posts on the Ledge now, can I ask you.. Are the plastic keys on your computer keyboard all shiny and worn in yet? :p

ChiliD,

Have you got the nut replaced on your Model 1 as you were meaning to do two years back?

:wavey:

The letters wore off pretty long ago, good thing I know how to type. I have b,v,x,z,j,g,q,/....and all the non letter keys.