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gldstwmn 04-26-2006 01:28 PM

WTF? No DVD?
 
http://www.nicksfix.com/

Question 135 - from Susan E in Dunedin New Zealand
Dear Stevie, Thank you so much for coming to New Zealand, the concert was wonderful, you sounded and looked great. I especially loved you performing "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You" Please come back again soon :-) Is there going to be a DVD of your tour? Take Care Lots of Love SusanXX

Stevie's answer:

Hi Susan, thank you so much, I truly loved New Zealand! Unfortunately, we are not planning on putting out a DVD of any of the shows there.

DavidMn 04-26-2006 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
http://www.nicksfix.com/

Question 135 - from Susan E in Dunedin New Zealand
Dear Stevie, Thank you so much for coming to New Zealand, the concert was wonderful, you sounded and looked great. I especially loved you performing "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You" Please come back again soon :-) Is there going to be a DVD of your tour? Take Care Lots of Love SusanXX

Stevie's answer:

Hi Susan, thank you so much, I truly loved New Zealand! Unfortunately, we are not planning on putting out a DVD of any of the shows there.

I'm shocked.:rolleyes:

JazmenFlowers 04-26-2006 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
http://www.nicksfix.com/

Question 135 - from Susan E in Dunedin New Zealand
Dear Stevie, Thank you so much for coming to New Zealand, the concert was wonderful, you sounded and looked great. I especially loved you performing "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You" Please come back again soon :-) Is there going to be a DVD of your tour? Take Care Lots of Love SusanXX

Stevie's answer:

Hi Susan, thank you so much, I truly loved New Zealand! Unfortunately, we are not planning on putting out a DVD of any of the shows there.

this has been covered in another thread. I think the consensus is that Stevie means no DVD of a New Zealand show...not necessarily Australian shows all together. or at least that's the hope.

gldstwmn 04-26-2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
this has been covered in another thread. I think the consensus is that Stevie means no DVD of a New Zealand show...not necessarily Australian shows all together. or at least that's the hope.

Well, forgive me for being repetitive. I humbly bow and scrape and beg for your apologies. :rolleyes:
Obviously, this is the first I've heard of this. You don't mind if I discuss it, do you? :)

Jyqm 04-26-2006 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
this has been covered in another thread. I think the consensus is that Stevie means no DVD of a New Zealand show...not necessarily Australian shows all together. or at least that's the hope.

I hate to be the non-delusional party pooper, but unless Stevie has big reading comprehension problems, or gets off on being withholding, it seems pretty obvious that no DVD is planned at this time. If they only filmed the one show, it's possible the footage ended up not being any good (we know that at the very least they had problems with the first two songs).

DavidMn 04-26-2006 01:36 PM

I'm not saying anyone's right or wrong here, but one thing I've learned about Stevie/Fleetwood Mac is I dont believe it until I see it on the shelves.:nod:

gldstwmn 04-26-2006 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
I hate to be the non-delusional party pooper, but unless Stevie has big reading comprehension problems, or gets off on being withholding, it seems pretty obvious that no DVD is planned at this time. If they only filmed the one show, it's possible the footage ended up not being any good (we know that at the very least they had problems with the first two songs).

Thank you. That is how I interpreted it as well. Needless to say, I'm really bummed that we won't be getting a DVD of this. Hopefully one of the fans got the show in it's entirety.

David 04-26-2006 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
I hate to be the non-delusional party pooper, but unless Stevie has big reading comprehension problems, or gets off on being withholding, it seems pretty obvious that no DVD is planned at this time.

I agree with you.

The kid asked: "Is there going to be a DVD of your tour?"

Stevie said: "Unfortunately, we are not planning on putting out a DVD of any of the shows there."

Sure you can split hairs & invoke the referent for "there" as being "New Zealand," but that is really ridiculously literal. It is pretty plain to me that Stevie meant NO DVD. She'd have to be cruel to the point of psychopathy to say NO DVD from New Zealand ... & then not even assure her Nicks Fixers that there will still be a DVD from Melbourne.

For whatever reason, I think she scrapped the planned DVD release.

Of course, the obvious next step is for someone to Ask Stevie: "What happened to the plans for a DVD from Melbourne with an orchestra?"

BombaySapphire3 04-26-2006 02:14 PM

It is bewildering to say the least that someone with Nicks's resources and cash went to Melbourne with the intention of making a DVD with that city's orchestra and went about filming and recording it so incompetently that the results may be unusable.

Rickypt 04-26-2006 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
I hate to be the non-delusional party pooper

Someone has to play that role and I think deep down inside no one really thinks Stevie meant that there wouldn't be a DVD from New Zealand. I just wish Stevie would give more than 4 word answers to these questions so that we could know what happened. She played with the orchestra to film and tape a show, and now there isn't a DVD. What happened? :shrug:

JazmenFlowers 04-26-2006 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Well, forgive me for being repetitive. I humbly bow and scrape and beg for your apologies. :rolleyes:
Obviously, this is the first I've heard of this. You don't mind if I discuss it, do you? :)

calm down...you read (read=red) much more than I intended. I only said that so you would know and maybe read everything else everyone said re: this. it wasn't a "shame on you for being repetitive" thing. if anyone's throwing around apologies it should be you for misinterpretation and flying off the handle.

I was, being polite, I thought, by letting you know it had already been discussed as most people probably wouldn't respond to your thread if they've already discussed it elsewhere.

****. :cool:

skcin 04-26-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Well, forgive me for being repetitive. I humbly bow and scrape and beg for your apologies. :rolleyes:
Obviously, this is the first I've heard of this. You don't mind if I discuss it, do you? :)


Wow. :shocked:

Nixxxed 04-26-2006 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by David
I agree with you.

The kid asked: "Is there going to be a DVD of your tour?"

Stevie said: "Unfortunately, we are not planning on putting out a DVD of any of the shows there."

Sure you can split hairs & invoke the referent for "there" as being "New Zealand," but that is really ridiculously literal. It is pretty plain to me that Stevie meant NO DVD. She'd have to be cruel to the point of psychopathy to say NO DVD from New Zealand ... & then not even assure her Nicks Fixers that there will still be a DVD from Melbourne.

For whatever reason, I think she scrapped the planned DVD release.

Of course, the obvious next step is for someone to Ask Stevie: "What happened to the plans for a DVD from Melbourne with an orchestra?"

My thoughts exactly.

Perhaps it will be a CD-only release - as was reported in one of those pre-tour newspaper blurbs. As I said in the other thread, there has been no official announcement of either, only speculation by the newspapers - and we have no idea where they got their info.

Besides, we know Stevie & the Mac film their shows from Cory Buckingham - although we don't know why. Perhaps when Stevie told the Symphony folks she'd be filming it, she didn't say it was for personal use, and they assumed it was for release and told the media. (Like, maybe Waddy needs to check the arrangements, or the lighting guys need to check their synchronization).

Whothehell knows anymore. For that matter where is the updated Greatest Hits, the Rhiannon musical/movie, the Rhiannon album, the coffee table book of Worthington pics, the...........

JazmenFlowers 04-26-2006 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
I hate to be the non-delusional party pooper, but unless Stevie has big reading comprehension problems, or gets off on being withholding, it seems pretty obvious that no DVD is planned at this time. If they only filmed the one show, it's possible the footage ended up not being any good (we know that at the very least they had problems with the first two songs).

oh no, I totally agree with you. I don't think there'll be a DVD. I was just repeating kind of what was said about it in another thread.

ShangriLaTroubl 04-26-2006 02:24 PM

It is possible she decided on a CD release of the show instead of DVD. I hope something changes, as I was really hoping for a new Stevie DVD release..They DID have the video problems during the show, hence the reason she re-did two songs in the end of the show. They never do that unless theres a release planned. However unfortunately in the end, she was wearing the "Beauty and the Beast outfit" on and was singing OTR/Dreams, which would not look correct for the DVD..That could have been part of the issue?

Nixxxed 04-26-2006 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3
It is bewildering to say the least that someone with Nicks's resources and cash went to Melbourne with the intention of making a DVD with that city's orchestra and went about filming and recording it so incompetently that the results may be unusable.

I've never believed it's her resources or cash that are in question. It's the people she chooses to work with using said resources.

Nixxxed 04-26-2006 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl
It is possible she decided on a CD release of the show instead of DVD. I hope something changes, as I was really hoping for a new Stevie DVD release..They DID have the video problems during the show, hence the reason she re-did two songs in the end of the show. They never do that unless theres a release planned. However unfortunately in the end, she was wearing the "Beauty and the Beast outfit" on and was singing OTR/Dreams, which would not look correct for the DVD..That could have been part of the issue?

I'm confused. I thought it was only the audio that was messed up on the first 2 songs, in which case they could just dub the audio from the second takes to well-edited video from the beginning of the show.

The video was screwed up too? :eek:

DashingDan 04-26-2006 02:40 PM

You can't have a dvd without a camera.

ShangriLaTroubl 04-26-2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed
I'm confused. I thought it was only the audio that was messed up on the first 2 songs, in which case they could just dub the audio from the second takes to well-edited video from the beginning of the show.

The video was screwed up too? :eek:

I don't think it was ever said whether audio or video was the problem.

Chris

David 04-26-2006 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DashingDan
You can't have a dvd without a camera.

Hmmm. . . good point, DashingDan. There was no camera at Melbourne?

ShangriLaTroubl 04-26-2006 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DashingDan
You can't have a dvd without a camera.

You can film a show without camera men being on the stage. The same way they film the show for the screens in the arena.

Chris

Jyqm 04-26-2006 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3
It is bewildering to say the least that someone with Nicks's resources and cash went to Melbourne with the intention of making a DVD with that city's orchestra and went about filming and recording it so incompetently that the results may be unusable.

Why bewildering? This kind of thing happens all the time. It's not necessarily incompetence. Filming a concert is a big enterprise and involves a lot of fancy equipment, and sometimes not everything works perfectly. **** happens. Lots of artists film their concerts with the hopes of releasing them, but the reels end up sitting in the vaults because they just didn't come out as well as originally hoped.

Or who knows, maybe it wasn't even a technical problem, maybe Stevie just wasn't happy with the performance, maybe she thought it sounded off, maybe she thought she looked fat in too many of the shots. And she didn't have the luxury of choosing the best footage, because they only filmed one night as opposed to two (a la The Dance or Live in Boston). Oh well.

Personally, I'm not terribly disappointed, as I'm not sure I even would have bought the release anyway. From the few clips I heard and saw, it didn't seem like the orchestra was used terribly well. I'd rather see the 1981 HBO special released on DVD.

DashingDan 04-26-2006 02:53 PM

would you pay for a two-camera professional dvd? I've purchased bootlegs with one or two cameras and it gets pretty boring after a while, but you live with it cos it's a bootleg.

jA lot of cameras were used on Night 1 of the Live in Boston DVD. I can remember seeing at least 6. Two on dollies, one hand held, one tiny one mounted on to the stage, and two on booms on the sides. Seeing the melbourne bootleg hasn't convinced me that there will be a DVD of that show.

ShangriLaTroubl 04-26-2006 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DashingDan
would you pay for a two-camera professional dvd? I've purchased bootlegs with one or two cameras and it gets pretty boring after a while, but you live with it cos it's a bootleg.

jA lot of cameras were used on Night 1 of the Live in Boston DVD. I can remember seeing at least 6. Two on dollies, one hand held, one tiny one mounted on to the stage, and two on booms on the sides. Seeing the melbourne bootleg hasn't convinced me that there will be a DVD of that show.


I agree it's unlikely. However, a CD release is always still possible. There must be SOME reason she redid songs in the end.

Chris

DashingDan 04-26-2006 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl
I agree it's unlikely. However, a CD release is always still possible. There must be SOME reason she redid songs in the end.

Chris

I agree completely, something's gonna come of it.

Johnny Stew 04-26-2006 03:37 PM

My take on it was, "I loved playing New Zealand -- there are no plans for a DVD of our shows there."

The question was specifically asked about a DVD from New Zealand, not Australia or any other part of the world. :shrug:

gldstwmn 04-26-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
if anyone's throwing around apologies it should be you for misinterpretation and flying off the handle.

Of course. I'd like to extend my sincerest of apologies for the misinterpretation of your message. Are we good now?
Seeing as how this thread is working on 3 pages, I think it's sufficient to say that there's still some interest in the topic. :lol: And you'll forgive me for not trying to find where it was previously discussed? I did a quick look through before I posted it but didn't see any similar topics on the first page. Thank you for understanding. :wavey:

AliceLover 04-26-2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickypt
Someone has to play that role and I think deep down inside no one really thinks Stevie meant that there wouldn't be a DVD from New Zealand. I just wish Stevie would give more than 4 word answers to these questions so that we could know what happened. She played with the orchestra to film and tape a show, and now there isn't a DVD. What happened? :shrug:

Theres not going to be a DVD because the show SUCKED! Worst GD tour footage ive seen so far.

cliffdweller 04-26-2006 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
I'd rather see the 1981 HBO special released on DVD.

Oh I'd love to see that on DVD too, but I'd rather have something new for a change :rolleyes:

Needless to say, I'm disappointed there will be no DVD, I hope you guys are right about the New Zealand vs. Australia thing.

JazmenFlowers 04-26-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Of course. I'd like to extend my sincerest of apologies for the misinterpretation of your message. Are we good now?
Seeing as how this thread is working on 3 pages, I think it's sufficient to say that there's still some interest in the topic. :lol: And you'll forgive me for not trying to find where it was previously discussed? I did a quick look through before I posted it but didn't see any similar topics on the first page. Thank you for understanding. :wavey:

no problem

Jyqm 04-26-2006 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
My take on it was, "I loved playing New Zealand -- there are no plans for a DVD of our shows there."

The question was specifically asked about a DVD from New Zealand, not Australia or any other part of the world. :shrug:

The question was, "Are there plans for a DVD of your tour?" so again, Stevie's reading comprehension would have to be pretty terrible for her to have screwed that up. And even if she did misread it, she'd have to be an incredibly mean person to imply, "No, there are no plans for a New Zealand DVD," without adding, "But we are releasing a DVD of one of the Australia shows."

Sahara 04-26-2006 04:05 PM

I will be devastated if there is no DVD! I've thought for ages she ought to record something with an orchestra. I'd be so disappointed... :distress:

Come on Stevie. Don't go breaking my heart! :angel:

Johnny Stew 04-26-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
The question was, "Are there plans for a DVD of your tour?" so again, Stevie's reading comprehension would have to be pretty terrible for her to have screwed that up. And even if she did misread it, she'd have to be an incredibly mean person to imply, "No, there are no plans for a New Zealand DVD," without adding, "But we are releasing a DVD of one of the Australia shows."

I don't know, it still seems to me that she was referring to New Zealand -- "I truly loved New Zealand! Unfortunately, we are not planning on putting out a DVD of any of the shows there."

And, of course, we're operating on the assumption that Stevie READS these messages, and that they're not read to her and her answers dictated back in turn... which could easily open up room for misinterpretation.

Just as I am with the "news" of a possible new Lindsey album, I'm remaining cautiously optimistic about this DVD. If it happens -- awesome. If it doesn't -- well, life is filled with far bigger disappointments than that.

Sahara 04-26-2006 04:07 PM

And as was said already, 100 panicked emails to John Kinney might get us some positive [as in definite] answers. :rolleyes:

MacMan 04-26-2006 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DashingDan
would you pay for a two-camera professional dvd? I've purchased bootlegs with one or two cameras and it gets pretty boring after a while, but you live with it cos it's a bootleg.

jA lot of cameras were used on Night 1 of the Live in Boston DVD. I can remember seeing at least 6. Two on dollies, one hand held, one tiny one mounted on to the stage, and two on booms on the sides. Seeing the melbourne bootleg hasn't convinced me that there will be a DVD of that show.

That has always been my issue after the first reports of the show started coming in from people who were there... Not one person mentioned any cameras floating around the place or on stage etc. except for the ones in the sound area which are for the big screens.

I'm thinking that during the 10 days of rehearsal before Melbourne that a faux stage was setup with full orchestra and cameras to capture the close up stuff, and the actual show was for the audience only audio... I don't know... I still want to believe that all the reports in the news and out of her own mouth could be true... and like everyone has said... why do retakes if you didn't have intentions of using it.

cliffdweller 04-26-2006 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jyqm
The question was, "Are there plans for a DVD of your tour?" so again, Stevie's reading comprehension would have to be pretty terrible for her to have screwed that up.

Oh god, this is prime fodder to open back up that "Stevie has a learning disorder" folderol :laugh:.

Anyway, you're probably right, but I'm going to remain hopeful that something might be out there and will someday be released (sooner rather than later).

JazmenFlowers 04-26-2006 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sahara
And as was said already, 100 panicked emails to John Kinney might get us some positive [as in definite] answers. :rolleyes:

I'm game...

amber 04-26-2006 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MacMan
That has always been my issue after the first reports of the show started coming in from people who were there... Not one person mentioned any cameras floating around the place or on stage etc. except for the ones in the sound area which are for the big screens.

I'm thinking that during the 10 days of rehearsal before Melbourne that a faux stage was setup with full orchestra and cameras to capture the close up stuff, and the actual show was for the audience only audio... I don't know... I still want to believe that all the reports in the news and out of her own mouth could be true... and like everyone has said... why do retakes if you didn't have intentions of using it.

OT - I've been wanting a clip of that part of SOTM from Mirage for ages for my sig. I asked someone else to do it for me, and that person said it was too hard.
So, my point - your sig is awesome, and I'm jealous. :wavey:

wheart 04-26-2006 04:26 PM

I'd love to see 1981 HBO and/or the Mirage show released on DVD in their entirety. It kills me that so much of those shows were cut out.

As far as a new DVD goes, anything could happen but I'm sure not holding by breath. If it happens, it will be a very nice surprise.

JazmenFlowers 04-26-2006 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
OT - I've been wanting a clip of that part of SOTM from Mirage for ages for my sig. I asked someone else to do it for me, and that person said it was too hard.
So, my point - your sig is awesome, and I'm jealous. :wavey:

there's one that's floating on several pages and around the net and has been for a while; don't know who's it is tho. I think I have it at home if you'd like it.

MacMan's got the part that I wanted too. the one I've got is from the "spider dance" portion.


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