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ThePenguin 04-14-2006 09:07 PM

3 new ones from John
 
http://www.fleetwoodmac.net/penguin/...mcvie2_qa1.htm
And I will say that I did address his last response LOL. 'Ask her.' He's a piece of work. I wrote a long but pleasant schpiel about how lovely we could make it for her, and said if he thinks she might be remotely interested in doing a Q&A w/ us, to feel free to ask her because, frankly, nobody else can!

LOL Poor John, feeling the pressure now, aren't you, mate? :xoxo:

So for those of you who have written me and asked ME to ask HIM to ask HER-- I DID it. Now hush. ;) :p

and keep your fingers crossed.
:nod:
-Lis

David 04-14-2006 09:27 PM

AAHAHAHAAAHAA!!!

John saw the comment Gaius made that he looked like Jesus in that shot from Scotland!!

It's both funny & slightly embarrassing ...

HAA!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :lol: :lol: :shocked: :shocked:

Hi, Mr. McVie (if you're there)! the fans definitely appreciate your hanging with us a bit from time to time! Take care, pal, & have a happy, peaceful Easter! :thumbsup:

BTFLCHLD 04-14-2006 09:27 PM

yes!
 
these are THE BEST yet!!!
keep 'em coming love :]

amber 04-14-2006 09:28 PM

:blob2: :blob1: :blob2:


NIXXXED!!!! BOOYAH!!!! *kiss*

"I've tried to keep that quiet all these years but I guess I blew it when we moved to Hawaii. My wife and daughter flew but I walked."
:lol: :lol:

I knew he would having nothing to say about Chris. Which is great. I mean, I wouldn't expect anything less from Detached and Respectful but Cool John. :nod: He truly is The Man.

It's clear that I have dibs, right? That he's my husband? Just so we all know....I don't want to have to resort to fisticuffs....in my jalopy....*sings* "Don't blame it on me, blame it on my logical heart....where is the reason, oh it's right there, in her logical heart..."
:laugh:

Thank you so much Lis, he is a delight, and I'm glad he has perused some Ledge info (though I have not seen these Glasgow photos myself) , b/c this site is the best. :xoxo:

This brings me to a musing... I hope that all the other band members have in their possession all the cool stuff we have. The recent BN live show comes to mind. Could you imagine if Steve and Linds don't have that? That would be terrible!!!!
I'm sure that's not the case, but I worry....:o They should have at least as much evidence of their Magnificence as we have. How strange that we may listen to the Mac tons, but that the Mac may listen to themselves not at all. How can they resist their own awesomeness!!?! :laugh:

BTFLCHLD 04-14-2006 09:41 PM

S T A N D B A C K!!!
 
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Originally Posted by amber
It's clear that I have dibs, right? That he's my husband? Just so we all know....I don't want to have to resort to fisticuffs....in my jalopy

KEEP YOUR MITTS OFF MY MAN :blob2:

wondergirl9847 04-14-2006 09:44 PM

Hosh*t!!
 
LMAO!! Well, the secret is out, ya'll. :laugh: Since we know Who John is now, perhaps he could perform a miracle and get Lindsey to put out his frickin' solo album.

amber 04-14-2006 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD
KEEP YOUR MITTS OFF MY MAN :blob2:

Looks like I will have to resort to fisticuffs. Virgos and Sag's aren't cool, so back off. I should know, my parents are those signs.
Good try, though.
Ain't you gottaman? Don't make me ghetto you up.
Those blue eyes won't look pretty swollen, and I just got a new shipment of whoopass in the mail today. :cool:
:laugh:

BTFLCHLD 04-14-2006 09:48 PM

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Don't make me ghetto you up

dont make me post that 2nd pic of you spreadeagled w/paula :eek:

AliceLover 04-14-2006 11:01 PM

John is so cool!!! I think its great that hes surfing the ledge now!!! Maybe we will have input in a future set list....HOW FREAKIN AWESOME WOULD THAT BE??????!?!?!?!? Or even meeting him...christ!

Im getting ahead of myself!:laugh:

Jyqm 04-15-2006 03:58 AM

"The travelling bit is just fine with me. Being on the road is as hard as you want to make it. We're so damned pampered. ( And have the bills to show for it)!"

I hope some of the chiffon brigade on the Stevie forum is keeping up with John's Q&A. I always have to shake my head in bewilderment when they break out in their chorus of, "Oh, I hope Stevie is taking several months off to rest, touring is so back-breakingly difficult!"

Thanks as always for the answers, John! (And that rapier wit...)

gldstwmn 04-15-2006 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
"The travelling bit is just fine with me. Being on the road is as hard as you want to make it. We're so damned pampered. ( And have the bills to show for it)!"

I hope some of the chiffon brigade on the Stevie forum is keeping up with John's Q&A. I always have to shake my head in bewilderment when they break out in their chorus of, "Oh, I hope Stevie is taking several months off to rest, touring is so back-breakingly difficult!"

Thanks as always for the answers, John! (And that rapier wit...)

I've never had any illusions about the travels of Miss Nicks. :laugh:

JazmenFlowers 04-15-2006 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
"The travelling bit is just fine with me. Being on the road is as hard as you want to make it. We're so damned pampered. ( And have the bills to show for it)!"

I hope some of the chiffon brigade on the Stevie forum is keeping up with John's Q&A. I always have to shake my head in bewilderment when they break out in their chorus of, "Oh, I hope Stevie is taking several months off to rest, touring is so back-breakingly difficult!"

Thanks as always for the answers, John! (And that rapier wit...)

they are pampered...no doubt about that. but pampered or not, Stevie does work maybe a bit more than the rest...and no matter what your profession is, it's always good to take a break.

amber 04-15-2006 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
they are pampered...no doubt about that. but pampered or not, Stevie does work maybe a bit more than the rest...and no matter what your profession is, it's always good to take a break.

yeah, and even if you're pampered it can still be hard to go to a different city almost every night. Tiring. And I think these things are harder on girls, Chris quit cause she hated touring so much. (at least partially).

BTFLCHLD 04-15-2006 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
it's always good to take a break.

:nod: no matter how pampered one is when traveling there is 'no place like home'...

Jyqm 04-15-2006 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
they are pampered...no doubt about that. but pampered or not, Stevie does work maybe a bit more than the rest...and no matter what your profession is, it's always good to take a break.

I know, Jason, it's just a terrible strain. And Stevie definitely works a lot harder than the members of the band who are lugging around and playing instruments. I mean, Lindsey hardly even breaks a sweat up there! And Mick?! Pshh, anybody could bang away on that drum kit for two hours, what kind of physical exertion does that require? I mean, he never even has to change his outfit!

I know you'll "defend" her to the death, dude, but this is not an issue on which Stevie needs defending (and the idea that she works harder than the rest is beyond ludicrous). She's never claimed that touring is horribly stressful, backbreaking work. In fact, she seems to enjoy it a great deal and will take any excuse to do it.

amber 04-15-2006 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
I know, Jason, it's just a terrible strain. And Stevie definitely works a lot harder than the members of the band who are lugging around and playing instruments. I mean, Lindsey hardly even breaks a sweat up there! And Mick?! Pshh, anybody could bang away on that drum kit for two hours, what kind of physical exertion does that require? I mean, he never even has to change his outfit!

I know you'll "defend" her to the death, dude, but this is not an issue on which Stevie needs defending (and the idea that she works harder than the rest is beyond ludicrous). She's never claimed that touring is horribly stressful, backbreaking work. In fact, she seems to enjoy it a great deal and will take any excuse to do it.

Um....I think he meant Stevie tours a lot more than the others, and has for many years. And, I think she enjoys it as well, but that doesn't mean it isn't tiring and taxing. :shrug:

Jyqm 04-15-2006 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
Um....I think he meant Stevie tours a lot more than the others, and has for many years. And, I think she enjoys it as well, but that doesn't mean it isn't tiring and taxing. :shrug:

I think it was on Leno in 1994 that she discussed the details of her tiring and taxing touring schedule: out of bed at 1 PM, fix up the hair, really start to "get going" about an hour before showtime, hit the stage at 9, off by 11, and it's off to the bars! Whew! I need a nap just typing it.

Johnny Stew 04-15-2006 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
I think it was on Leno in 1994 that she discussed the details of her tiring and taxing touring schedule: out of bed at 1 PM, fix up the hair, really start to "get going" about an hour before showtime, hit the stage at 9, off by 11, and it's off to the bars! Whew! I need a nap just typing it.

A close friend of mine travels a lot for his job... flies first-class, stays in the nicest of hotels, and so forth... but he still says that, no matter how pampered you are while you're travelling, you're absolutely worn out by the end of it, because you're staying in strange places and trying to sleep in beds that are not your own.

I don't think Stevie or any of the rest of Fleetwood Mac could last a day working my father's job (he's a machinist), but I can definitely understand why they'd be ready to head home and settle-in at the end of a tour.
As Amber said, it's the reason Christine ultimately retired from Fleetwood Mac.

amber 04-15-2006 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
I think it was on Leno in 1994 that she discussed the details of her tiring and taxing touring schedule: out of bed at 1 PM, fix up the hair, really start to "get going" about an hour before showtime, hit the stage at 9, off by 11, and it's off to the bars! Whew! I need a nap just typing it.

Travel time. That's the more taxing part. Oh, and don't forget about early soundchecks! :p
I think we can agree right now that you will think her touring is easy, and I will think it is a little bit harder, though hardly the gulag. I dunno, I think I would be tired if I had to go to a new city every night. But - like you said she hasn't complained much, so it couldn't be enormously tiring. :rolleyes: But remember how she was diagnosed with epstein barr, and in the mid years of touring she was always tired? I think she likes it so much she just keeps doing it even if she's tired. Even if she has to take mountains of coke to do so. :laugh:

Jyqm 04-15-2006 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
Travel time. That's the more taxing part. Oh, and don't forget about early soundchecks! :p
I think we can agree right now that you will think her touring is easy, and I will think it is a little bit harder, though hardly the gulag. I dunno, I think I would be tired if I had to go to a new city every night. But - like you said she hasn't complained much, so it couldn't be enormously tiring. :rolleyes: But remember how she was diagnosed with epstein barr, and in the mid years of touring she was always tired? I think she likes it so much she just keeps doing it even if she's tired. Even if she has to take mountains of coke to do so. :laugh:

She hasn't complained at all! I don't think that touring is the absolute easiest, cushiest job in the world, of course there's work involved, and of course it gets tiring travelling around all the time. It's merely the chorus of, "Stevie had an off night? She sang out of tune? Oh, she'd better go home and rest up for several months and conserve her strength, the poor darling lamb!" that I find ridiculous. You never hear any of these people offering such sentiments to the roadies carrying around all her **** every day.

amber 04-15-2006 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
She hasn't complained at all! I don't think that touring is the absolute easiest, cushiest job in the world, of course there's work involved, and of course it gets tiring travelling around all the time. It's merely the chorus of, "Stevie had an off night? She sang out of tune? Oh, she'd better go home and rest up for several months and conserve her strength, the poor darling lamb!" that I find ridiculous. You never hear any of these people offering such sentiments to the roadies carrying around all her **** every day.

Well, they don't sing so we don't care about them. Besides, they chose "carrying things" as their career.
I thought I heard her say during SN: BTM that she was "dead tired". That was about the RAL time.
Wait, wait, wait. Do poeple really say that? "Stevie had an off night? She sang out of tune? Oh, she'd better go home and rest up for several months and conserve her strength, the poor darling lamb!"

I dunno, she's 57, we don't want her to have a heart attack, or break her hip. We want her to rest....:laugh:

JazmenFlowers 04-15-2006 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
I know, Jason, it's just a terrible strain. And Stevie definitely works a lot harder than the members of the band who are lugging around and playing instruments. I mean, Lindsey hardly even breaks a sweat up there! And Mick?! Pshh, anybody could bang away on that drum kit for two hours, what kind of physical exertion does that require? I mean, he never even has to change his outfit!

I know you'll "defend" her to the death, dude, but this is not an issue on which Stevie needs defending (and the idea that she works harder than the rest is beyond ludicrous). She's never claimed that touring is horribly stressful, backbreaking work. In fact, she seems to enjoy it a great deal and will take any excuse to do it.

maybe you need to re-read what I said.:cool:

danax6 04-16-2006 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
"The travelling bit is just fine with me. Being on the road is as hard as you want to make it. We're so damned pampered. ( And have the bills to show for it)!"

I hope some of the chiffon brigade on the Stevie forum is keeping up with John's Q&A. I always have to shake my head in bewilderment when they break out in their chorus of, "Oh, I hope Stevie is taking several months off to rest, touring is so back-breakingly difficult!"

Oh, put a sock in it. Don't knock it until you have tried it. :wavey:

David 04-16-2006 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by amber
Travel time. That's the more taxing part. I think I would be tired if I had to go to a new city every night.

If I had to tour with a big-time r&r outfit like Fleetwood, I'd get tired of traveling but I'd also get tired of playing the same show every night. That's a different kind of tired: more like a mental exhaustion that sort of becomes a physical exhaustion. Actors on stage have the same problem: staying fresh. Also Dame Edna has the same problem, although in her case, since she feeds off the audience so much, the particulars of the show are at least potentially variable.
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But - like you said she hasn't complained much, so it couldn't be enormously tiring.
I think she used to complain more about the old Fleetwood tours: white album, rumours, tusk. She complained in interviews about the length of each of those tours. And later, during her BD & WH days, she complained again about the old FM tours & about how she was no longer going to do that & her tours were structured & scheduled differently to prevent exhaustion: something like three days on, two off, & so forth. Also, she took more frequent breaks in her own tour schedules: instead of playing three months & then a month off like fm, sn solo became 6 weeks on & then 3 weeks off, & so forth.

She also made that famous remark back in '81 or so about wanting to be at home where she could pop a burrito in the microwave. She said that Lindsey & Mick & John loved to be on the road because they liked room service.

Jyqm 04-16-2006 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by danax6
Oh, put a sock in it. Don't knock it until you have tried it. :wavey:

No.

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amber 04-16-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by David
If I had to tour with a big-time r&r outfit like Fleetwood, I'd get tired of traveling but I'd also get tired of playing the same show every night. That's a different kind of tired: more like a mental exhaustion that sort of becomes a physical exhaustion. Actors on stage have the same problem: staying fresh. Also Dame Edna has the same problem, although in her case, since she feeds off the audience so much, the particulars of the show are at least potentially variable.
I think she used to complain more about the old Fleetwood tours: white album, rumours, tusk. She complained in interviews about the length of each of those tours. And later, during her BD & WH days, she complained again about the old FM tours & about how she was no longer going to do that & her tours were structured & scheduled differently to prevent exhaustion: something like three days on, two off, & so forth. Also, she took more frequent breaks in her own tour schedules: instead of playing three months & then a month off like fm, sn solo became 6 weeks on & then 3 weeks off, & so forth.

She also made that famous remark back in '81 or so about wanting to be at home where she could pop a burrito in the microwave. She said that Lindsey & Mick & John loved to be on the road because they liked room service.

:nod:
I like how your details fleshed out my vague recollections. :laugh: And there was the Epstein Barr thing....
Yeah, I think I would bug out to play so many shows the exact same darn way, too, same songs, every time. Bored to lethargy, like you say. I might turn to drink and karaoke. I'd go out after the show, have a few too many, and start singing my own fabulous songs that we didn't play...:laugh:

chiliD 04-17-2006 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by David
her tours were structured & scheduled differently to prevent exhaustion: something like three days on, two off, & so forth. Also, she took more frequent breaks in her own tour schedules: instead of playing three months & then a month off like fm, sn solo became 6 weeks on & then 3 weeks off, & so forth.

I think instead of being "exhaustion prevention", the schedule was designed more for "vocal cord preservation".

SteveMacD 04-17-2006 07:49 PM

Having had a job that was 50 miles from home for six months, I can honestly say that the feeling of always being in motion gets really old really quickly. I literally got sick of the notion of having to go anywhere over thirty miles away. It took a long time before I was able to make such trips. This past weekend, I got a lot of that same feeling after having gone to Columbus (75 miles from home) twice in two days. So, while they might travel in style, I could easily see where the travel involved in touring could get old pretty quickly.

chiliD 04-18-2006 01:25 AM

The only thing taxing to me about touring on the level that *I'M* at is that I have to schlep my own gear, plus the PA, set it all up, THEN play the gig...a 5-set per night gig...then tear it all down, load it back into the two 1965 Ford Econoline vans, then hit the bumpy, dusty & gritty gravel roads of "off the beaten path" America (and occasionally, Canada)...staying in cockroach infested motels that make the Bates Motel seem like the Ritz-Carlton. That kind of saps most of the energy one has.

All-in-all, as Jackson Browne says in his song "The Load Out", the only time that is much too short is the time we get to play.

If we had people to load in the gear, set up the gear, tear down the gear, load out the gear, drive the vans from town to town while I ride in a private jet & then limousine to 5-star hotels, I'd have more energy to put on a better show for the 118 minutes I'd be on stage (rather than the 300+ minutes I currently play).

HomerMcvie 04-18-2006 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
The only thing taxing to me about touring on the level that *I'M* at is that I have to schlep my own gear, plus the PA, set it all up, THEN play the gig...a 5-set per night gig...then tear it all down, load it back into the two 1965 Ford Econoline vans, then hit the bumpy, dusty & gritty gravel roads of "off the beaten path" America (and occasionally, Canada)...staying in cockroach infested motels that make the Bates Motel seem like the Ritz-Carlton. That kind of saps most of the energy one has.

All-in-all, as Jackson Browne says in his song "The Load Out", the only time that is much too short is the time we get to play.

If we had people to load in the gear, set up the gear, tear down the gear, load out the gear, drive the vans from town to town while I ride in a private jet & then limousine to 5-star hotels, I'd have more energy to put on a better show for the 118 minutes I'd be on stage (rather than the 300+ minutes I currently play).

Ah, you schmuck! Welcome to my world! I've not done a 5 set gig for some time.....4 seems to be the limit around here anymore. But we play EVERY weekend! And the PA's all mine, and I load it all(yes, that's my fault, but I make a double cut for doing so). On the ****ty load in/outs, by the time I drive home, I'm completely EXHAUSTED. And not from standing there like a brick, doing the Say You Will lasso! From actual work!

chiliD 04-18-2006 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
...4 seems to be the limit around here anymore.

That 1-1:30am set is the worst. Mainly because from 1:10-1:30 is usually "Free Bird" and I wanna just yak. That song just sucks the very soul right outta me.

HomerMcvie 04-18-2006 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
That 1-1:30am set is the worst. Mainly because from 1:10-1:30 is usually "Free Bird" and I wanna just yak. That song just sucks the very soul right outta me.

Most of our gigs are 9-1. We had a place wanting us this past weekend. They wanted 10-2(which we HAAAAATTTTTTEEEEEE-hell, I'm not home then til 4AM). We told em 9-1, or MORE money! Cheap bastards settled for 9-1.:laugh:
And YES, the last set sucks the LIFE out of you. I can't believe you do FB. We know Breeze, and 3 Steps, and only do them when ABSOLUTELY necessary.

chiliD 04-18-2006 09:54 AM

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And YES, the last set sucks the LIFE out of you. I can't believe you do FB. We know Breeze, and 3 Steps, and only do them when ABSOLUTELY necessary.

Yeah, I can't believe we do it either...and so damned often...but, we charge $20 (to the tip bucket) before we'll play it. We could easily convert to a Skynyrd tribute band...we play at least one LS tune per set:

Gimme Three Steps
That Smell
Call Me The Breeze
Sweet Home Alabama
Free {cough, hack, wheeze} Bird
I Know A Little

cliffdweller 04-18-2006 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by David
If I had to tour with a big-time r&r outfit like Fleetwood, I'd get tired of traveling but I'd also get tired of playing the same show every night. That's a different kind of tired


:laugh: I don't know if this was meant to be funny, but it was. Duly noted sir.


And yes, traveling is tiring. Traveling to Phoenix to visit my sister wears me out and I'm not even expending that much energy, so I can only imagine what Stevie's traveling schedule is like!

But yeah, to echo Amber (as she put it wonderfully) Stevie's older now, more fragile, and still keeps up a pretty crazy touring schedule with benefit shows, concerts, special appearances, etc. so I'm sure traveling is more taxing on her than it's ever been. She's pampered, make no mistake about it, but she's still got a certain amount of stress on her that we aren't accustomed to, and the woman works hard for her age--again, not the kind of work we're accustomed to, but it's hard work nonetheless.

David 04-18-2006 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cliffdweller
:laugh: I don't know if this was meant to be funny, but it was. Duly noted sir.

Well, one has to take what comedy one can find in life, I suppose!

Now that I look back on my comment, I see that it's not what I meant. I didn't mean 'same set' per se. Here's what I did mean: I'd get tired of traveling, but I'd also get tired of playing a show every night.

Knowing that I had to get out there onstage each night would give me a sinking feeling & would ultimately exhaust my mind, body & spirit. It's a lot different from having to go to work at the office every day because you aren't specifically on display at the office & you don't feel the immense weight of having to please 10,000 screaming people at the office. Also, at the office you have fellow trenchers, whereas you're essentially on your own on a concert stage (there is no other Stevie Nicks to be Stevie Nicks with you during those two hours).

I feel this wearisome quality sometimes when my own band plays. Even if I have nothing to do during the whole day in Las Vegas except do a simple, relaxing soundcheck, a wearisomeness still sets in & my spirit sags a bit. Instead of feeling excitement--or only excitement--I feel the burden of the impending show, knowing that the responsbility is heavy on me to show up & perform well--a responsibility far greater than that at a day at the office.

cliffdweller 04-18-2006 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Now that I look back on my comment, I see that it's not what I meant. I didn't mean 'same set' per se.

Ah, see how it could have been interpreted? :laugh: And I seriously thought the misinterpretation was what you meant! I guess I should say that I was HOPING the misinterpretation was what you meant ;)

skcin 04-18-2006 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
I'm completely EXHAUSTED. And not from standing there like a brick, doing the Say You Will lasso! From actual work!


So, when you do the SYW lasso, you don't get tired at all? :p


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Originally Posted by chiliD
Yeah, I can't believe we do it either...and so damned often...but, we charge $20 (to the tip bucket) before we'll play it. We could easily convert to a Skynyrd tribute band...we play at least one LS tune per set:

Gimme Three Steps
That Smell
Call Me The Breeze
Sweet Home Alabama
Free {cough, hack, wheeze} Bird
I Know A Little

I will make it my mission to one day attend one of your shows & scream "Free Bird!!!" at you repeatedly, while refusing to tip the necessary $20. :cool:

Actually, I'd prefer Tuesday's Gone or Ballad of Curtis Lowe. :shrug:

HomerMcvie 04-18-2006 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin
So, when you do the SYW lasso, you don't get tired at all? :p

The day I do the SYW lasso, is the day 5 big rednecks take me out back, and beat the f*ck out of me!:]

Johnny Stew 04-18-2006 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
5 big rednecks take me out back, and beat the f*ck out of me!:]

Ahh, that brings back memories of high school! :laugh:

cliffdweller 04-19-2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
Ahh, that brings back memories of high school! :laugh:


:distress: :sorry:


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