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UnwindedDreams 04-07-2006 07:37 PM

i'm going to see Heart!!!
 
I'm in the pit!!! They were only seventy...They're playing Trump Marina August 12th...I already got my rooms booked...I'm so excited!:blob2: :blob1: :blob2: :blob1: :blob2: Love Rules '06!!!

greatdarkwing 04-07-2006 07:39 PM

I saw them last night at the Hard Rock Casino here...AWESOME SHOW!!!! GO SEE THEM WHEN YOU CAN!

Livia 04-07-2006 07:46 PM

Congrats! They are great in concert - watch out for the spitting bass player. :lol:

UnwindedDreams 04-07-2006 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by greatdarkwing
I saw them last night at the Hard Rock Casino here...AWESOME SHOW!!!! GO SEE THEM WHEN YOU CAN!

Can you post the set...please!!! I saw them in AC back in March...:)

foxyluva 04-07-2006 08:15 PM

Wow. Your lucky. I just saw a live performance of "these dreams" on TV with an orchestra - it was great :D

David 04-07-2006 08:41 PM

the one & only time I saw Heart (in Santa Barbara at I think the State Theater) they opened with I think Barracuda & they sang that "Should I drive my car?" song, which I thought was "Should I drive my car?" so that's what I called it, but my dormmate Jon said, "No, I think it's Should I drop my guard"

But I have trouble remembering that unless I concentrate specifically on it.

Anyway, I thought they were really bland in concert, really faceless. Musically, they were no different from Loverboy or any number of other bland corporate rockers. El Rayo-X opened that show that night, & they were everything that Heart wasn't: quirky, joyous, committed, edgy, funky, chancy. Although I must say that Ann & nancy themselves are or were visually goddesses who ruled the airwaves & the concert stages for a time. But one didn't get the sense from them that there was any genuine heart in the commitment to songwriting or even performing. It was just a bunch of smooth professionals earning a very good living.

to this day, I still remember what Robert Hilburn of the L.A. Times said of them: something like "never has a band been more inaptly named"

whenever a Stevie fan says she loves Heart, I immediately know I wouldn't make a good sounding board for that person, or give that person much pleasure in conversation. Our ways of life are too different, our backgrounds are incompatible....so farewell, my friend, & let there be no hard feelings.....

UnwindedDreams 04-07-2006 09:44 PM

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so farewell, my friend, & let there be no hard feelings.....

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

SuzeQuze 04-07-2006 10:30 PM

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:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

:lol: Our wise old friend David is dead wrong about Heart. The show is amazing. I saw them 2 years ago and my jaw was on the floor. David, I don't know when you saw them, but I think they've found that connection with their souls that it sounds was lacking when you saw them. Just Ann busting out that flute had me in awe.

greatdarkwing 04-07-2006 10:44 PM

From memory:

Rock and Roll
Love Alive
Kick It Out
Straight On
Bebe Le Strange
Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters
These Dreams
(new song)
Alone
Even It Up
Magic Man
Barracuda
Crazy On You
________________
(Encores)

Black Dog
Rocky Mountain Hop

ryan8472 04-07-2006 10:46 PM

I would kill to see Heart. Have fun!

Rickypt 04-08-2006 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by David
whenever a Stevie fan says she loves Heart, I immediately know I wouldn't make a good sounding board for that person, or give that person much pleasure in conversation. Our ways of life are too different, our backgrounds are incompatible....so farewell, my friend, & let there be no hard feelings.....

What if the Stevie fan is a he? :shrug: :lol:

Unwinded, have a great time and post a review! Can't wait to see Heart in June.

cliffdweller 04-10-2006 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia
Congrats! They are great in concert - watch out for the spitting bass player. :lol:


Mike Inez? He was in Alice in Chains, I think that explains it all :laugh:

Beachwood Mac 04-10-2006 04:36 PM

I probably saw them at least once during every tour in the 70's and early 80's including front row at the San Diego Sports Arena. I skipped their big hair shows :lol: but that was more because I was paying off college loans and needed to eat. They still rock. Ann's voice is pure rock and roll. Hope you have a great time!


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to this day, I still remember what Robert Hilburn of the L.A. Times said of them: something like "never has a band been more inaptly named"
This is why I don't bother with reviews :shrug:

amber 04-10-2006 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by David
whenever a Stevie fan says she loves Heart, I immediately know I wouldn't make a good sounding board for that person, or give that person much pleasure in conversation. Our ways of life are too different, our backgrounds are incompatible....so farewell, my friend, & let there be no hard feelings.....


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
"here I am dramatic...."

The Tower 04-11-2006 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by David
Anyway, I thought they were really bland in concert, really faceless. Musically, they were no different from Loverboy or any number of other bland corporate rockers. El Rayo-X opened that show that night, & they were everything that Heart wasn't: quirky, joyous, committed, edgy, funky, chancy. Although I must say that Ann & nancy themselves are or were visually goddesses who ruled the airwaves & the concert stages for a time. But one didn't get the sense from them that there was any genuine heart in the commitment to songwriting or even performing. It was just a bunch of smooth professionals earning a very good living.

to this day, I still remember what Robert Hilburn of the L.A. Times said of them: something like "never has a band been more inaptly named"

Sometimes you are just such a ****ing 'tard.

If you can't feel it, then fine. "Visually goddesses"??? Never mind. You'll never get it. Quoting Robert Hilburn of all people? How banal... that old claptrap wouldn't know music if it blared his ear off.

strandinthewind 04-11-2006 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
Sometimes you are just such a ****ing 'tard.

If you can't feel it, then fine. "Visually goddesses"??? Never mind. You'll never get it. Quoting Robert Hilburn of all people? How banal... that old claptrap wouldn't know music if it blared his ear off.

LOL - David a tard - never :cool: (WE LOVE YOU DAVID!!!! :angel: )

Seriously, to each their own, but I am at a loss to see how Ann's voice could not dazzle anyone. I mean listen to their version of "Unchained Melody" - and then think that that is a 50 something year old woman hitting those three or so octaves with the same vengence she showed when she was in her 20's :eek:

I also think Dreamboat Annie and Dog and Butterfly are amongst the most original and cooler things I have ever heard.

The Tower 04-11-2006 10:12 AM

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LOL - David a tard - never :cool: (WE LOVE YOU DAVID!!!! :angel: )

Everyone has their moments, my dear.

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I also think Dreamboat Annie and Dog and Butterfly are amongst the most original and cooler things I have ever heard.
Not to mention "Mistral Wind" and "Nada One".

Heart has produced plenty of dreck along the way, however, the talent of Ann and Nancy is pretty much unparalled.

cliffdweller 04-11-2006 10:19 AM

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Heart has produced plenty of dreck along the way


I know, and I love every cheesy minute of it! The one thing I can't stomach though is "All I Wanna Do is Make Love To You." They should have just let Don Henley have that one :laugh:.

But I love the "Heart" album which I know a lot of old schoolers don't like, but whatever, I would listen to Ann sing the alphabet. And the way I look at it is, if I can be a Stevie Nicks fan through Rock a Little and Tango in the Night :sorry: I can be a Heart fan through their mid-late 80's debacle of a decade making music :laugh:.

JazmenFlowers 04-11-2006 10:41 AM

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I know, and I love every cheesy minute of it! The one thing I can't stomach though is "All I Wanna Do is Make Love To You." They should have just let Don Henley have that one :laugh:.

But I love the "Heart" album which I know a lot of old schoolers don't like, but whatever, I would listen to Ann sing the alphabet. And the way I look at it is, if I can be a Stevie Nicks fan through Rock a Little and Tango in the Night :sorry: I can be a Heart fan through their mid-late 80's debacle of a decade making music :laugh:.

me too. I love Heart. and I love AIWDIMLTY!

cliffdweller 04-11-2006 10:56 AM

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I love AIWDIMLTY!


Pfffff! That's cool. I just think the narrative is SOOOOOO unbelievable! I mean, a woman (and I know this song was written for a man) is driving along the road at night picks up a male hitchhiker, takes him to a motel, (actually, this is getting good) they have their one night stand and then years later they meet up again (randomly) and the child sees her "own eyes" in the eyes of the "real" father for the first time? Gimme a break, it is so far fetched! :laugh:

JazmenFlowers 04-11-2006 11:01 AM

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Pfffff! That's cool. I just think the narrative is SOOOOOO unbelievable! I mean, a woman (and I know this song was written for a man) is driving along the road at night picks up a male hitchhiker, takes him to a motel, (actually, this is getting good) they have their one night stand and then years later they meet up again (randomly) and the child sees her "own eyes" in the eyes of the "real" father for the first time? Gimme a break, it is so far fetched! :laugh:

true.

I was speaking more of the vocal/melody.

cliffdweller 04-11-2006 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
true.

I was speaking more of the vocal/melody.


Oh I know, but as I was posting I started to think about the lyrics and it just kind of tickled me. Ann's singing is flawless though!

The Tower 04-11-2006 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cliffdweller
I know, and I love every cheesy minute of it! The one thing I can't stomach though is "All I Wanna Do is Make Love To You." They should have just let Don Henley have that one :laugh:.

Brigade was their last gasp. There was a LOT of crapola on that album. "Secret" is Heart's "Unconditional Love".

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But I love the "Heart" album which I know a lot of old schoolers don't like, but whatever, I would listen to Ann sing the alphabet.
"What About Love?" is blistering, ain't it?

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And the way I look at it is, if I can be a Stevie Nicks fan through Rock a Little and Tango in the Night :sorry: I can be a Heart fan through their mid-late 80's debacle of a decade making music :laugh:.
I downloaded a thirteen minute piano demo of "The Nightmare" off of The Lewdge and had to turn it off after the first five minutes. Stevie Nicks Piano Plinking at its worst....

ontheEdgeof17 04-11-2006 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cliffdweller
Pfffff! That's cool. I just think the narrative is SOOOOOO unbelievable! I mean, a woman (and I know this song was written for a man) is driving along the road at night picks up a male hitchhiker, takes him to a motel, (actually, this is getting good) they have their one night stand and then years later they meet up again (randomly) and the child sees her "own eyes" in the eyes of the "real" father for the first time? Gimme a break, it is so far fetched! :laugh:


Tell that to my mom and dad. :)

The Tower 04-11-2006 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cliffdweller
Pfffff! That's cool. I just think the narrative is SOOOOOO unbelievable! I mean, a woman (and I know this song was written for a man) is driving along the road at night picks up a male hitchhiker, takes him to a motel, (actually, this is getting good) they have their one night stand and then years later they meet up again (randomly) and the child sees her "own eyes" in the eyes of the "real" father for the first time? Gimme a break, it is so far fetched! :laugh:

The freeeking song was written by Mutt Lange! :eek: That dude makes Bret Michaels look like Leonard Cohen....

I can't imagine what drugs Ann was on the time that would allow her to record that song.

strandinthewind 04-11-2006 12:29 PM

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. . . I can't imagine what drugs Ann was on the time that would allow her to record that song.

Appranently NOT crystal meth or any other kind of speed (did I just say that :eek: )

The Tower 04-11-2006 12:52 PM

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Appranently NOT crystal meth or any other kind of speed (did I just say that :eek: )

Yes, you did. :xoxo:

Ann has stated many times in the past that the main reason she was able to keep her figure in the mid-late 70's was due to her cocaine use. Her ex, Mike Fisher, was a real asshole and was always harping on her about her weight.

strandinthewind 04-11-2006 01:20 PM

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. . . Her ex, Mike Fisher, was a real asshole and was always harping on her about her weight.

Haven't we all had one of those :rolleyes: - I could write a fukcing book :mad:

cliffdweller 04-11-2006 01:21 PM

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Her ex, Mike Fisher, was a real asshole and was always harping on her about her weight.


Yeah, and where is he today? Exactly. :cool:

His brother (was it Steve Fisher?) was a total dork too. Did anyone see the Heart BTM? He was so incredibly in lust with Nancy Wilson it was insane! He had his eye on her from the time she joined the band and then mercilessly pursued her for years until she finally caved and got together with him. Then he threw a guitar at her backstage because she broke up with him and hooked up with the drummer. I dunno, he kind of has a stalkeresque quality to him that gives me the creeps!

cliffdweller 04-11-2006 01:22 PM

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Tell that to my mom and dad. :)


You little "bastard" :cool: :laugh: :xoxo:

The Tower 04-11-2006 02:49 PM

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Yeah, and where is he today? Exactly. :cool:

Ann has also stated that she hasn't had any other relationships since Mike Fisher dumped her back in 1979-80 (?). All of her "schoolgirl poetry" songs from the mid-70's are all about him ("Magic Man", "Crazy on You", "Love Alive", "How Deep It Goes", "Here Song", etc., etc., etc.).

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His brother (was it Steve Fisher?) was a total dork too. Did anyone see the Heart BTM? He was so incredibly in lust with Nancy Wilson it was insane! He had his eye on her from the time she joined the band and then mercilessly pursued her for years until she finally caved and got together with him. Then he threw a guitar at her backstage because she broke up with him and hooked up with the drummer. I dunno, he kind of has a stalkeresque quality to him that gives me the creeps!
Roger Fisher is/was a great guitarist, though. The whole Wilson/Fisher thing was really the meat of Heart's best material. After that breakup, they did Private Audition and Passionworks, which was the beginning of the end, and then it was pretty much all over for Ann and Nancy's original materials (with a few exceptions here and there).

cliffdweller 04-11-2006 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
Roger Fisher is/was a great guitarist, though. The whole Wilson/Fisher thing was really the meat of Heart's best material. After that breakup, they did Private Audition and Passionworks, which was the beginning of the end, and then it was pretty much all over for Ann and Nancy's original materials (with a few exceptions here and there).

Oh yeah, Roger Fisher, that's it. Yeah, great stuff in the 70's. Glad to see they're back to that sound with the new album. They've had a revolving door of bandmates haven't they? I think the "meat" of Heart is Ann and Nancy. There is no Heart without those two (obviously) but I see what you mean by the Fisher/Wilson guitar combo, but the songwriting, for me, all starts with the sisters. Have you heard The Road Home? What an intimate gem of an album...Ann and Nancy can sing circles around each other, it's like a mind meld! :laugh:

The Tower 04-11-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cliffdweller
Oh yeah, Roger Fisher, that's it. Yeah, great stuff in the 70's. Glad to see they're back to that sound with the new album. They've had a revolving door of bandmates haven't they? I think the "meat" of Heart is Ann and Nancy. There is no Heart without those two (obviously) but I see what you mean by the Fisher/Wilson guitar combo, but the songwriting, for me, all starts with the sisters. Have you heard The Road Home? What an intimate gem of an album...Ann and Nancy can sing circles around each other, it's like a mind meld! :laugh:

I have all of Heart's albums. The Road Home is fantastic, however, there is only one new song on it (the title track)- everything else on that album is either old material or a cover.

Jupiter's Darling is okay. Not great and certainly not a return to form in terms of their 70's material. I consider it more of a fifth incarnation for them.

Roger Fisher played a large part in a lot of their 70's material. Sue Ennis tried to take over his role and IMO was a weak replacement. Just look at all the horrible material from Private Audition (blech). That's their worst album, ever.

cliffdweller 04-11-2006 03:31 PM

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I have all of Heart's albums. The Road Home is fantastic, however, there is only one new song on it (the title track)- everything else on that album is either old material or a cover.

Yeah, I was referring to it in terms of showcasing the connectedness of Ann and Nancy as collaborators, co-songwriters, and vocal soul mates---something that has nothing to do with their revolving door of bandmates, and something that is uniquely their own that gives Heart, imo, it's signature sound and feel :) .

And I think Jupiter's Darling is much closer to their 70's material/sound than anything else they've done in the last 20 years, and that's saying something. I am totally impressed by this album, I think the Wilson's have done very well "on their own" (so to speak), with their own vision.

I really like some of the Sue Ennis collaborations from the 70's, but yes, Private Audition sucks.

Rickypt 04-17-2006 12:25 PM

Anyone else going to Heart at the Mountain Winery on Sept. 6th? Got my tix this morning. I'm going to this show instead of Konocti.

UnwindedDreams 04-17-2006 12:40 PM

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Anyone else going to Heart at the Mountain Winery on Sept. 6th? Got my tix this morning. I'm going to this show instead of Konocti.

So you want to stay up late past your bedtime instead of the 6:45 show at Konocti:laugh:

Rickypt 04-17-2006 01:25 PM

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So you want to stay up late past your bedtime instead of the 6:45 show at Konocti:laugh:

Yeah, I'll just take a long nap that afternoon. :laugh:

I hope the set list is extended by the time they get to California and includes some JD songs.

David 04-17-2006 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickypt
Anyone else going to Heart at the Mountain Winery on Sept. 6th? Got my tix this morning. I'm going to this show instead of Konocti.

Konocti? Cool! That's where I saw Fleetwood Mac in concert in 1994 & again in 1995. It's hotter than hell there during the summer & fall.

DestinyRules 04-19-2006 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by greatdarkwing
I saw them last night at the Hard Rock Casino here...AWESOME SHOW!!!! GO SEE THEM WHEN YOU CAN!

Ann and Nancy can put on a KILLER show! AND, they pace things FAST. They ran through something like 23 songs in an hour and a half. I loved that concert!

DestinyRules 04-19-2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by David
whenever a Stevie fan says she loves Heart, I immediately know I wouldn't make a good sounding board for that person, or give that person much pleasure in conversation. Our ways of life are too different, our backgrounds are incompatible....so farewell, my friend, & let there be no hard feelings.....

"Because sometimes ... you just fall from grace..."


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