Another new Australian interview-The Age
 

http://www.theage.com.au/news/music/...465789637.html


A magical life
February 12, 2006

One of the many rumours that have trailed along behind Stevie Nicks since she joined an ailing Fleetwood Mac in 1975 and helped to turn them into one of the most successful bands in pop history, is that she is some kind of witch. Some rather credulous people believe her lyrics in songs such as Rhiannon, Gold Dust Woman and even the recent Sorcerer reference a demi-monde of white magic and wiccan ritual. As further evidence they point to her music publishing company, Welsh Witch Music, an allusion to both the song Rhiannon and the Celtic lunar goddess who inspired it.

Perhaps during the heady years of the 1970s and '80s - a time when, as Nicks has admitted, she took so much cocaine that "you could put a big gold ring through my septum" - the singer's lifestyle was wild and magical enough for these kind of rumours to flourish. But now, at the age of 57, Nicks is as far from witchy as you can imagine, and no longer willing to humour such romantic delusions.

"I've become very neat in my older age," Nicks says in her famous husky drawl. The living room in her Los Angeles mansion is all red velvet and hanging palms, she tells me, with a crystal ball on her coffee table and elegant candles on her grand piano. But there is an edge to all this orderliness that is almost compulsive. "I used to be a lot crazier, but now I really want everything to be beautiful, and it makes me nervous when things aren't," she says. "I'll get up and straighten up everything if I have to, even in a hotel room."

That revelation offers a little glimpse of the interior life of Stevie Nicks, but with her solo recording career now a fading memory and the recent Fleetwood Mac reunion a creative disappointment, it seems there's nothing to stop her speaking her mind. So she dismisses the mysticism in her songwriting, arguably the very trait that has earned her millions of fans worldwide, by reducing it to an act of calculation. "I write in codes, because I want my songs to appeal to everyone," she says. "From the beginning, I've had fans that are 20, 30 years older, so those people are now like 102, or dead! The first bright idea for a lyric comes, and then I go back and I say, 'Well, that line is really too heavy, I'm going to take that out, because that line might turn off one generation'. I'm very careful to cover all bases."

Can it really be the case that, beneath the gauzy gold-dust image, the real Stevie Nicks is so careful, pragmatic and razor-sharp? It's worth remembering that in 1973, when her pre-Fleetwood album with boyfriend Lindsey Buckingham stiffed, it was Nicks who worked menial jobs to pay the rent and to keep their dreams alive, each night stepping over the passed-out bodies of Buckingham and his muso buddies as she returned home from waiting tables or cleaning houses. In other words, Nicks is a woman who has always known what she wants and is willing to do whatever it takes to get it.

But these days there's not that much left to aim for. Fleetwood Mac have sold more than 70 million records since Nicks joined the group, while her six solo albums (beginning with 1981's now classic Bella Donna) have sold in excess of 20 million. Nicks is an all-pervasive element of modern pop culture, maybe not as influential now as at her height, but still a figure to be referenced (mockingly or otherwise) everywhere from South Park to The Simpsons, and to be covered by artists as young and current as Lindsay Lohan and Joss Stone.

Little surprise, then, that she feels no pressure to produce new material. "It's like, does it really matter at this point?" she says when asked if she is working on a follow-up to her last solo album, 2001's Trouble In Shangri-La. "Do people really want to hear a whole other solo record, when you can get one or two songs for I-Tunes? I'm thinking about a way you could just put out a few songs once in a while, maybe four songs that you loved, instead of having to figure out 16 songs, many of which you might not love."

The singer could be making a backhanded reference to Say You Will, the 2003 Fleetwood Mac album that Nicks recorded without long-time ally and confidante Christine McVie, who left the band in 1998 in favour of a quiet life in London. Originally conceived as a Lindsey Buckingham solo project, Say You Will came to resemble two separate albums awkwardly squashed together, with nine songs apiece from Buckingham and Nicks alternating in strict succession.

"I'd be totally lying if I said that record is what I wanted, because it isn't," she says. "I argued with Lindsey all the way through it, and he argued with me. It wasn't very much fun, and I wasn't that pleased with the music. I felt my demos were better, which of course is easy to say, but I did. And what can I say? It wasn't a lot of fun."

It seems that almost 30 years after the end of her romantic relationship with Buckingham there's still tension. But you would never have known it in February 2004, at the Melbourne show of the 135-date Say You Will tour. Buckingham kissed Nicks' hand several times during the show, while she draped her arms tenderly over his shoulders as he played guitar.

According to Nicks, that tenderness, like her witchy lyrics, was just for show. "We are extremely professional, and when we get up there on the stage we get lost on the fun parts of the show," she explains. "So it's never going to show anything bad, because we're always going to rise above and concentrate on the good things."

Nicks' successful battle against addiction has also improved her ability to rise above. After two decades spent in the thrall of cocaine, alcohol and the prescription sedative Klonopin (which she describes as the worst thing of all), Nicks has been drug-free since 1994. So the past 12 years have been perhaps less colourful, but definitely smoother sailing. "My life is calmer now because I'm not on drugs, but it's also wonderful and exciting because I'm not on drugs. A lot of the time during those last four or five years before I went into rehab, I really didn't think I was going to make it out alive. So I'm thrilled every day that I did."

She lives alone in Los Angeles and has no room for a man in her life, preferring the freedom to be able to take off for Australia for six weeks, fly to Washington to visit injured soldiers, or play a corporate function in New York. "If I meet somebody, that's great," she says. "But if that doesn't happen I'm not lonely. I'm happy and I have lots of fun by myself. I'm not looking for somebody to fill up my life."

Nicks is similarly at peace with her decision to favour her career over starting a family. "I have lots of kids," she says happily, meaning her niece, four god-daughters and one godson. "It's much more fun to be the crazy auntie than it is to be the mom, anyway. I couldn't do what I'm doing if I had kids."

Even the death last year of her 80-year-old father Jess has made little impact on Nicks' serenity. "I have had a very easy time with it, and the reason is that he did 55 of those 135 Fleetwood Mac shows with us," she says. "He had such a great time, he had a little electric scooter and he was buzzing all over the venues."

Six months after the end of the Fleetwood Mac reunion tour, her father joined her again on a short US solo tour with Don Henley. But this time things were very different. "I said out loud to everybody, 'In my heart I really wish that he would just go on to the next plane, because he is not having fun'," Nicks says. " 'He doesn't feel well, he can't buzz around in his scooter any more, someone is wheeling him around in a wheelchair, and he is hating it.' "

The next night, Jess Nicks fell in his hotel room. A week later, he was dead. "I really took it with the grace he would have wanted," his daughter says. "I feel he pushes me towards the beauty in my life. So it's been OK. I'm not sad, I'm just glad that he's not in pain any more."

This confrontation with mortality has led Nicks to review her own life, and the singer is considering writing an autobiography, though she jokes that the people involved aren't yet old enough that she could safely name names. "I have to wait till we're 90, and then nobody would care," she says with a laugh.

And despite the ups and downs, the struggles with lovers, bandmates and addiction, Nicks is well aware that she has led a charmed - some might say magical - life. "I've had a lot of amazing experiences, and it is all good," she says. "Even the bad stuff is interlaced with the good, so it wouldn't be just one depressing monologue. It's a fabulous story. A Cinderella story for all of us, not just me."

Stevie Nicks performs with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra at Rod Laver Arena on Saturday. Tel: 132 849

Wow....she sounds so uninspired...the end of the road is near...

Ouch.

(But I agree with her about the demos.)

Yeah, I was wuite surprised to hear that.

Silver Girl was definitely better (as a demo) from what I heard. And I never liked Smile At You as much as the demo. I also love the acoustic version of Goodbye Baby from the Destiny Rules doc as opposed to the finished product. The only song on that record that sounded true to Fleetwood Mac form was Destiny Rules.
Man, she gave up some of her best songs for this record and she didn't even like the way they turned out? Unbelievable.:distress:

I can't believe it
 

I just can't believe what I'm reading...this is so sad. All her life, Stevie has said she's a writer and wants to write until her dying day. I would hate to see Stevie become just another nostalgia act. If she doesn't have the energy or interest in doing another album I want her to put out EPs (do they even make those anymore?), iTune singles or contribute to soundtracks. We can only hope we haven't seen the last of her incredible songs.

This is sad... distressing. :(

Definitely, And those four songs would be great too Stevie!

I didn't find this interview so distressing. She's changed her mind many times, I still think sooner or later that new album will appear (two songs here, three songs there...).

What really surprised me was her feeling towards Say You Will. I didn't know she felt so disappointed about the way it turned out, there's clearly a quite tough critique to Lindsey's production. Now all we need to do it's to find those two filmakers... I want to see the real making of. :nod:

Romy

I remember reading an interview with Lindsey from '03 where he stated that Stevie had yet to thank him,or say 'great job with my songs'. So I assume the whole time she wouldn't reveal the fact that she wasn't pleased with them to the press while promoting the album,obviously in case of hurting the promo for it. It's a shame that she's so critical of her work,but then again it's Lindsey's work she seems to be criticising not her own..either way-it's a shame

does Stevie have bi-polar?
what the hell is this ****
why does everything she say contradict what she said 3 years ago or even yesterday?

TISL demos were better NOT SYW demos Stevie. pay attention :nod:

WOW!! the fact that she believed "Say You Will" to be a disappointment feels a little disheartening. The album is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would love to know the exact reasons why she believes that...eventhough she and Lindsay both got 9 tracks on the album. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is surprised ;) Just..wow!! I'm still in shock

Was this actually in the paper... or just on "The Age" website? :confused:

that made me VERY sad :shocked:
SYW is my FAVORITE FM album by miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiles
I pretty much love every song on it.....including Lindsey's which is not usual for me coz i'm biased towards STevie :lol:
but Stevie should feel very proud of it
Wasn't Destiny Rules the only song she wasn't happy with........how it was mixed etc? And that song still rocks.

Silver Girl on the other hand...........should have been left a bit more raw as well as Goodbye Baby

but seriously...........if ANYONE gets to ask her ANYTHING in the next few weeks ask her WHY this is before I cry

This is my favorite interview from her in years!
FABULOUS!!! :xoxo:

rbs

This part cracks me up:

But there is an edge to all this orderliness that is almost compulsive. "I used to be a lot crazier, but now I really want everything to be beautiful, and it makes me nervous when things aren't," she says. "I'll get up and straighten up everything if I have to, even in a hotel room."

Reminds me of that Ab Fab episode where Eddie's on a compulsive rampage, going, "I want nothing but CLEAN surfaces!"

I'm surprised no one's commented on this part. But then again, "it's nothing that I didn't knooooow."

According to Nicks, that tenderness, like her witchy lyrics, was just for show. "We are extremely professional, and when we get up there on the stage we get lost on the fun parts of the show," she explains. "So it's never going to show anything bad, because we're always going to rise above and concentrate on the good things."

we're ignoring it
coz it's not true. :D

Um...hello, shippers! :laugh:

rbs

Sounds like Stevie is having some regrets. I wouldn't mind at all if she stopped recording albums and just did demos. I wish she would polish up some of her old stuff that we all collect, even if it's just playing it at the piano - I'm having withdrawals already.

hullo there ARE no bad parts :laugh:
what they do is outta love :D


as for Stevie recording new ****
I agree with the demos
we all have them any way
polished versions would be lush.


I would like...................i will start a new thread :nod:

But there is an edge to all this orderliness that is almost compulsive. "I used to be a lot crazier, but now I really want everything to be beautiful, and it makes me nervous when things aren't," she says. "I'll get up and straighten up everything if I have to, even in a hotel room."
says Stevie.......Great I hope stevie dosent see me in the crowd at her show and ask me to leave.....Because I aint beautiful???:( :( :o

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh I'm so sure...

Bi-polar, Gemini, same difference. :lol:

THIS-WAS-THE-MOST-GOD-AWFUL- INTERVIEW! Dam it! I was already depressed enough!:shocked:

i was going to bring up the gemini
but i wont accept a faulty star sign trait
as the cause of this article
nope it's
p.s.y.c.h.o.l.o.g.i.c.a.l.

Why am I so depressed right now? Because the woman who has touched me so much, got me through rough times, sent chills up my spine and who has made me cry when I needed to, is alive and healthier than she's ever been, but deep down inside, she's beginning to die. :distress: :sorry:

WOW.

I wonder if this interview came a few days after this Fleetwood Mac "meeting"? Sounds like Stevie and Lindsey have just had a spat and she's freshly pissed.

I love the interview. It helps me see Stevie as a whole person, someone who can convey disappointment, ambivalence, and lack of confidence.

I really think she is unsure that she can top TISL (which she considers her masterpiece, doesn't matter what we think).

I also don't really believe that she has moved past her father's death. I sense a lot of sadness and maybe even a bit of depression in her words. I'm sure she is glad he is out of pain, but that doesn't mean she isn't grieving. Maybe even a bit of denial going on.

Yes, a bit of a depressing interview, but a very human one. She's not beginning to die, she's showing the ups and downs of living.

It makes total sense now...Vegas Shows..Gold Dust Tour..No new material. We need to accept that she is winding down now...sad..but true. remember TISL was a nightmare in many respects..it took seven years to complete. She seems kind of defeated. Maybe not so happy with the results of her labours as of late. I'm not surprised. This MSO DVD thing is a way to stay in the spotlight. I think her next project will be a FM Album. That way she can do a few songs that she really loves. This Interview however will not bode well with Lindsey!!!!:cool:

Not a good idea...
 

because not everyone has access to I-Tunes, so then you'd be leaving out a substantial amount of fans out of the loop in terms of hearing new material.

Freshly pissed is good
coz u KNOW what that means :lol:


Street Angel could kick TISL outta the water.
and *that* is what *I* think :wavey:
Stevie doesn't need to please herself to please me :lol:

now THAT is clearly evident.
what she says and she she might be feeling i don't think are the same
totally think she throws herself into these shows to *forget* somewhat.


BlackWidow: is Liddy EVER portrayed well when Mama is the one being interviewed and they're NOT in the room together> :lol:

yeah there's a whole thread about this running on seven wonders too.
I had a lot of things to say about it there but overall, personally, I'm not even taking it all that seriously. It's one interview out of thousands that she's done, and it was just another day at work.
Personally I think part of it is that she's sending out some "feelers."
She's sorta saying she's not sure where things are at, and feels tired, and just like anyone else would be, isn't sure what to do next.
But in my opinion there really are some practical issues for her to consider, too, and I think she's showing that she understands that - CRYSTAL clear.
I also got an impression here, though -
I think maybe she's sort of trying to subtly "redefine" herself a little bit -
she's like, "Yeah okay, 57, i GET it, people! And YEAH i know I gotta be practical and realistic about certain things."
But I also got a sense she put more thought into this interview than it may appear, at first glance - I think maybe she's up to something....

At the very least, she's creating "buzz" during her tour - even in these
discussion groups. She AIN'T stupid, after all, and she's been in this game a LOOONNG time. She's got us wonderin' - and even hoping...

like? :wavey:

not sure but i THINK maybe she's trying to "reinvent" herself just a little bit, just not as loudly as Madonna. She's trying to shake the Gypsy image off just a little bit and show her practical, normal side.
Queens have to be practical, after all.... :] ;)

She is always changing her tune. This is news to me that she wasn't "happy" with SYW...at least HER songs. This just shows to me that she is loosing interest in making any new music...and just being creative in general. Where is the old Stevie Nicks who was driven by her creativity and loyal fans...:shrug:

Yes, clean lines and surfaces... Does this not have a home???

Funny show!!

is that really necessary?
i mean that 'image' IS Stevie
she doesn't need to change

i think she just needs to step outside the square

Move here to Oz.........relax
polish some demos
return back to the US in a year or so
do the club scene *that is AWESOME*
write that ##cking autobio
and who cares about writing new songs
or releasing new records
yes that would be nice
but i would rather one or 2 GOOD songs from Stevie in a year or 3
then a 1/2 assed record that she doesnt even want to do
with COMMERCIAL songs on it coz thats wot she THINKS we want to hear

if Linds' songs were 'better' than Stevie's it's coz he had 15-odd years to work on them.

not that i completely disagree with you Lux (shocking i know) but if Stevie was disappointed with SYW (the song) it's kinda her fault. SYW (the album) shouldn't have been marketed the way that it was. THey shouldn't have been worried about commercializing it.

they should have released EFO & Red Rover or Come
and garnered a WHOLE new audience!

QUOTE=Livia]http://www.theage.com.au/news/music/...465789637.html

This confrontation with mortality has led Nicks to review her own life, and the singer is considering writing an autobiography, though she jokes that the people involved aren't yet old enough that she could safely name names. "I have to wait till we're 90, and then nobody would care," she says with a laugh.[/QUOTE]

You got that right Stevie, at 90 no one is going to care..not even your fans. she needs to get a grip, while she still has all her memory, liveliness and faculties..she needs to write this thing, now or at the least very soon, coz quite frankly, who's bothered about the loony ravings of an old rocker in her 70's or 80's?



"I'd be totally lying if I said that record is what I wanted, because it isn't," she says. "I argued with Lindsey all the way through it, and he argued with me. It wasn't very much fun, and I wasn't that pleased with the music. I felt my demos were better, which of course is easy to say, but I did. And what can I say? It wasn't a lot of fun."

To bring this up again, is in bad taste. It's been a couple of years now and she needs to give it a rest.Lindsey didn't have to do it and in affect she's still saying he didn't do a good job...with rubbish like Silver girl, I'm surprised he could do anything with it.He's stuck with her for 30 something years and saved her ass on a number of occasions ( joining FM in the first place and Tango in the night etc...)and yet she still goes on and on...she should be grateful.

I hope a bit of Aussie sunshine will warm her up a bit.

:nod:

Thanks for saying what I have tried to say fifty million times on this board. She sounds done, right?

You got that right Stevie, at 90 no one is going to care..not even your fans. she needs to get a grip, while she still has all her memory, liveliness and faculties..she needs to write this thing, now or at the least very soon, coz quite frankly, who's bothered about the loony ravings of an old rocker in her 70's or 80's?



"I'd be totally lying if I said that record is what I wanted, because it isn't," she says. "I argued with Lindsey all the way through it, and he argued with me. It wasn't very much fun, and I wasn't that pleased with the music. I felt my demos were better, which of course is easy to say, but I did. And what can I say? It wasn't a lot of fun."

To bring this up again, is in bad taste. It's been a couple of years now and she needs to give it a rest.Lindsey didn't have to do it and in affect she's still saying he didn't do a good job...with rubbish like Silver girl, I'm surprised he could do anything with it.He's stuck with her for 30 something years and saved her ass on a number of occasions ( joining FM in the first place and Tango in the night etc...)and yet she still goes on and on...she should be grateful.

I hope a bit of Aussie sunshine will warm her up a bit.[/QUOTE]


Great post and I totally agree. It is obvious she is done with her solo music, it has been to me for a few years now. However, the Lindsey bashing...enough already. It has been going on for decades and he has saved her ass more than people know, IMHO. It is ridiculous and unprofessional. She spends more time trying to create this image of how she "doesn't get along with LB" than she does on any other part of the interview...its bull and I am sick of him allowing her to do it. Stand up for yourself Linds! (note..she mentioned her Dad's passing and how she got through it just fine...is that a crumb she is tossing? sheesh)