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The Tower 02-10-2006 10:06 PM

Stevie in all her Klonopin glory!!
 
This is kind of painful to watch....

http://www.youtube.com/w/Stevie-Nick...Stevie%20Nicks

Zombie Central.

The Tower 02-10-2006 10:08 PM

"I would not buy a smashed $60,000.00 guitar if it belonged to Benjamin Franklin"

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

ReFleetwoodMac 02-10-2006 10:18 PM

She is an evil evil lady.

johndoe 02-10-2006 10:35 PM

Damn...thats awful...

goldustsongbird 02-10-2006 10:38 PM

I have to admit to laughing my ass of at part six. She just wants to get the hell out of there! See the look she gives when they ask her do the promos?

*sideways glance*
"oookay..."

She's just so sarcastic during that part, I can't help but crack up. That aside... The rest of it is just.... :\

The Tower 02-10-2006 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ReFleetwoodMac
She thinks 1986 to 1991 is seven years.

No, dear- 1986 to 1994 is eight years. It was eight years of her life that was lost to Klonopin.

The Tower 02-10-2006 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ReFleetwoodMac
This is from 1991 right? She said she had been sober for seven years in 1991.

Ohhh, yeah- that's what you were referring to. Yeah, I noticed that as well. I thought- Honey you ain't been sober for seven years.

Sorry, BoBo.....:o

AliceLover 02-10-2006 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
No, dear- 1986 to 1994 is eight years. It was eight years of her life that was lost to Klonopin.

Its weird it was the worst part of her life but my favorite song came from that time. :woohoo:

JWS 02-10-2006 11:28 PM

I just don't understand how Stevie got bogged down on Klonopin for eight years! Certainly after the first year she should have realized there was an addiction problem and where where her doctors? Were they prescribing this for eight years? Why would she wait eight years to get treatment?:shrug:

IMO, when she realized she couldn't do cocaine anymore she was devastated...it was such a major part of her life. Perhaps Klonopin eased the mental pain.

Does anybody know someone that has taken Klonopin?

gldstwmn 02-10-2006 11:51 PM

One minute she's happy the next, slightly hostile. There's that familiar listlessness in her voice that I remember from that period. Thank god she made it.

StreetAngel86 02-11-2006 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AliceLover
Its weird it was the worst part of her life but my favorite song came from that time. :woohoo:

yah i know
2 of my 3 fave songs came outta THAT era too
so it cant have been all that bad :thumbsup:

JazmenFlowers 02-11-2006 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JWS
I just don't understand how Stevie got bogged down on Klonopin for eight years! Certainly after the first year she should have realized there was an addiction problem and where where her doctors? Were they prescribing this for eight years? Why would she wait eight years to get treatment?:shrug:

IMO, when she realized she couldn't do cocaine anymore she was devastated...it was such a major part of her life. Perhaps Klonopin eased the mental pain.

Does anybody know someone that has taken Klonopin?

I do and have taken it myself a few times. It never zonked me the way she says and it didn't seem addictive, but I know that it is - then again, I didn't and don't take it every day...

Livia 02-11-2006 12:55 AM

Part 6 was hilarious. I wanted her to go, "I'm Stevie Nicks, beeyotch!":laugh:

JazmenFlowers 02-11-2006 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia
Part 6 was hilarious. I wanted her to go, "I'm Stevie Nicks, beeyotch!":laugh:

it was interesting to see her dead gaze turn into a huge smile and bright eyes when she was doing the promo spots

she may be able to turn all your music on but she can also turn on the charm...

JWS 02-11-2006 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
I do and have taken it myself a few times. It never zonked me the way she says and it didn't seem addictive, but I know that it is - then again, I didn't and don't take it every day...

Thanks for this. I've read reports Stevie was popping 8 pills a day. I don't know what an appropriate dosage is...but 8 seem excessive.

You say you have taken Klonopin...what's the effect, if any...tired, lithargic?

JazmenFlowers 02-11-2006 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JWS
Thanks for this. I've read reports Stevie was popping 8 pills a day. I don't know what an appropriate dosage is...but 8 seem excessive.

You say you have taken Klonopin...what's the effect, if any...tired, lithargic?

ok, if ole girl was taking 8, yeah I can see it - I'm surprised she isn't dead

I started taking half a pill just to calm nerves and progressed to a full pill. I didn't feel lethargic or tired, I felt really, really relaxed. I would compare the feeling to taking a good 250 mg muscle relaxer. Speaking of which...;)

JWS 02-11-2006 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
ok, if ole girl was taking 8, yeah I can see it - I'm surprised she isn't dead

This seems to be a common statement about our dear Stevie Nicks..."I'm surprised she isn't dead". Ms. Nicks is lucky to be alive. She has said so herself. Stevie seriously abused heavy narcotics for 18 years...plus alcohol and smoking!

Any of these things can be handled in moderation, not that I condone it...but in Stevie's case...it's full blown addiction.

JazmenFlowers 02-11-2006 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JWS
This seems to be a common statement about our dear Stevie Nicks..."I'm surprised she isn't dead". Ms. Nicks is lucky to be alive. She has said so herself. Stevie seriously abused heavy narcotics for 18 years...plus alcohol and smoking!

Any of these things can be handled in moderation, not that I condone it...but in Stevie's case...it's full blown addiction.

yep, which is why I treasure her

amber 02-11-2006 01:58 AM

Thank you for bringing my attention to this. I've only watched part one (because South Park is on) and my impression is that although her eyes are incredibly flat, her words make sense, her attitude seems to be just the attitude I would expect her to have at that point in her life.

She's kind of disillusioned about people, some probably took advantage of her and now she sings things clearly because she's relatively sober, she's older, she's probably feeling her age a bit, people keep asking her the same questions over and over, her last couple albums sold fewer, (I think she was probably proud of OSOTM, too - she should be) and didn't she get a little skewered for RAL?
I would probably be just as irritated. Hell, I was just as irritated this afternoon for way fewer reasons.

And I've certainly been that bored before.

But *so far* she is expressing herself well and clearly, and saying a few insightful things - I like her opinion about paying a lot of money for things that belonged to other people. :angel:
even though she's lying or mistaken about a few dates...I would probably do that too....:laugh:

I can't wait to see the rest.

JazmenFlowers 02-11-2006 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by amber
I can't wait to see the rest.

it's some pretty interesting stuff...the uncut behind the music segments are cool too

(I feel slightly awkward saying uncut)

GarboSpeaks! 02-11-2006 02:43 AM

Yea, she doesn't seem THAT dazed. I mean yea, she's a bit out of it, but real snotty IMO. I know I have seen this and You-Tube is real selective about what it runs all of and doesn't. Atleast for me. Sure I have high speed interent, but paying my monthly bill punctually doesn't ensure me top notch service. :laugh:

Might I add, weren't we talking bout her wearing gawd awful stuff on occasion? I hate that dress/coat combo. Blech!

Mokona 02-11-2006 02:44 AM

Ugh, she has that dead look in her eyes, which is something I guess I've had until recently, according to my nurse practitioner. I've been taking Klonopin daily (1-3 mg. depending on how bad the anxiety is) for about 4 years, and she is just now weaning me off of it because my mind has really become dulled (memory, being able to think quickly, etc.) and also my anxiety has improved. I had a very bad day last week where I was all jitters and it felt like my body was turning to Jell-O, so she told me to come down even more slowly with just half a pill a day, and then a quarter pill. At first, Klonopin makes you tired, and then you just feel relaxed, and once you've been on it for a long time, you don't feel anything other than the absence of anxiety.

This is basically what she told me: 1 mg of Klonopin is equal to 20 mg of Valium. The doctors like to prescribe it for panic/anxiety because it stays in your system for 12 hours versus something like Xanax, which is much shorter-acting and sort of gives you a very relaxed feeling, but you "crash" sooner and can have rebound anxiety. Picture a kiddie roller coaster versus an adult one. Klonopin is like the kiddie one, with smoother dips and slopes, whereas Xanax is like the adult one, with sharper climbs and drops.

Anyway, if Stevie was taking 8 mg a day, it's amazing she was able to even give an interview. Seriously, you become so dulled that it seems as if your IQ has dropped 50 points. Interesting interview though.

Janis_no1 02-11-2006 03:30 AM

i've only gotten like 30 seconds into part 1.... up to the part where she says with the flat, almost bored non moving stare "you dont want to hear what we sung".... pretty intimidating i would think for the interviewer...seems scary

Now i'll go see the rest

Janis_no1 02-11-2006 03:57 AM

oh my goodness.... there's some great amazing interviews and shows i would never see if youtube didn't exist... lots love going out.... :xoxo:

Oh it hurt when she said the in the doing the best clip how she couldnt' take anymore of people advice etc, and that she is a big girl now and so on... :(

StreetAngel86 02-11-2006 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Janis_no1
i've only gotten like 30 seconds into part 1.... up to the part where she says with the flat, almost bored non moving stare "you dont want to hear what we sung".... pretty intimidating i would think for the interviewer...seems scary

Now i'll go see the rest

forget being fired by her
i would have quit :laugh:
Scary Stevie............not cool :eek:
my poor baby/ glad the 90s are over :woohoo:

StreetAngel86 02-11-2006 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Janis_no1

Oh it hurt when she said the in the doing the best clip how she couldnt' take anymore of people advice etc, and that she is a big girl now and so on... :(

that song just rules so much.
i just saw that clip for the first time last night
and that made me sad ....... because you know she DOES try to please everyone. and if they were still asking too much of her and not letting her do her ****..........that clip really showed me why/how she would develop another drug addiction. :shocked:

BombaySapphire3 02-11-2006 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AliceLover
Its weird it was the worst part of her life but my favorite song came from that time. :woohoo:

For the record she has stated" I wrote most of the songs for the TOSOTM before I starting taking the Klonopin so I kind of slipped by on that one"

StreetAngel86 02-11-2006 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3
For the record she has stated" I wrote most of the songs for the TOSOTM before I starting taking the Klonopin so I kind of slipped by on that one"

so *all* those songs were written in 87?

drugs or no drugs Street Angel/Running the the Garden/Blue Denim & Love is Like a River are top **** :thumbsup: even tho LiLaR says it was written in 94 i doubt the demo was :D

Kelly 02-11-2006 07:11 AM

She said all of the songs on the Mirror album were written before she got too heavily into the klonopin.

Any interview from the early ninties is sad for me to watch. I esp. hate the OSOTM int. from England where she reads the Children Go On poem. I know some people think it is so beautiful and just lovely but I hear it as a cry for help. Pretty blatantly. :distress:

Janis_no1 02-11-2006 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelly
hate the OSOTM int. from England where she reads the Children Go On poem. I know some people think it is so beautiful and just lovely but I hear it as a cry for help. Pretty blatantly. :distress:

I haven't heard that....

danax6 02-11-2006 08:35 AM

I love her attitude in this interview. "Alright, let's get this the hell over with, I don't want to be here, and I am not afraid to show that." :laugh: Someone told me she didn't like the woman interviewing her, hence the 'tude.

Her look when the woman asks her to do the promo parts is priceless. "Is this woman for real?" :laugh:

Bryan 02-11-2006 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JWS
Does anybody know someone that has taken Klonopin?

There's a bunch of people's experiences (including Stevie'shttp://www.benzo.org.uk/nicks.htm) of it on here: http://www.benzo.org.uk/index.htm click 'stories'

TomBanks147 02-11-2006 11:00 AM

wow i love that song. Anyone know who it was originally by, or if theres a version of it by stevie in full?

David 02-11-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by danax6
I love her attitude in this interview. "Alright, let's get this the hell over with, I don't want to be here, and I am not afraid to show that." :laugh: Someone told me she didn't like the woman interviewing her, hence the 'tude.

She had no beef with the interviewer, Laura Gross. Stevie's known Laura since the mid '70s & been interviewed by her many times.

danax6 02-11-2006 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by David
She had no beef with the interviewer, Laura Gross. Stevie's known Laura since the mid '70s & been interviewed by her many times.

Alright then. I can't remember who said it, but since I have no idea who Laura Gross (what a weird last name btw, lol) is, I'll believe you.

Does anyone have any other interviews she did with Stevie?

SomeKindaMother 02-11-2006 12:40 PM

Oh my gosh, if that wasn't a typical Klonopin induced stupor. I know 2 who take it regularly. One calls it her tranquilizer and uses it a lot of times purely as a sleeping pill because she 'just can't sleep'. (Of course the 10 cans of pepsi she drinks right up until bedtime has nothing to do with it....caffeine doesn't effect her.) :rolleyes: This is an otherwise intelligent, professional woman!

The other is a more serious case, and in my opinion, proof that there were and still are Dr.'s out there that will dangerously prescribe Klonopin. She has suffered some psychiactric conditions and sees drs regularly. I feel as though she has been overmedicated for years, but the K-zone is quite typical...that look in the eyes, the slow expressions...VERY familiar. As is the ability to hold a otherwise coherant conversation....with few 'bumbles'. As drugged as they are, you'd think it would be one big slur. (I'll bet Stevie was not able to recall this interview clearly afterward...if at all.)

Now for my rant. The person I'm referring was prescribed a MASSIVE dose of Klonopin for an indefinate period with no restrictions or even a pep talk. I had the misfortune to ride in a vehicle with her for an 80 mile round trip on an interstate during which time we nearly slammed into the rear end of MANY vehicles because of slow reaction times. There were countless incidents, and I told her to call her Dr. immediately and ask him about driving because she was unsafe to herself and others on this high a dose. His response was to ask her what she thought...and if she felt safe to drive. She said yes, she thought so...but she also respected my opinion that she wasn't. He told her if she felt safe, then she was probably okay. She continued driving for another few days until she drove off into a ditch pulling out her driveway. (She couldn't react fast enough to turn the car wheel.) THank God she didn't hurt anyone.

I don't think Klonopin is probably any worse than any other drug, but it sure can be abusively used....and prescribed. (I wish that Dr had ridden in a car with her during that time.)

Kelly :) sorry for the rant

JWS 02-11-2006 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeKindaMother
Oh my gosh, if that wasn't a typical Klonopin induced stupor. I know 2 who take it regularly. One calls it her tranquilizer and uses it a lot of times purely as a sleeping pill because she 'just can't sleep'. (Of course the 10 cans of pepsi she drinks right up until bedtime has nothing to do with it....caffeine doesn't effect her.) :rolleyes: This is an otherwise intelligent, professional woman!

The other is a more serious case, and in my opinion, proof that there were and still are Dr.'s out there that will dangerously prescribe Klonopin. She has suffered some psychiactric conditions and sees drs regularly. I feel as though she has been overmedicated for years, but the K-zone is quite typical...that look in the eyes, the slow expressions...VERY familiar. As is the ability to hold a otherwise coherant conversation....with few 'bumbles'. As drugged as they are, you'd think it would be one big slur. (I'll bet Stevie was not able to recall this interview clearly afterward...if at all.)

Now for my rant. The person I'm referring was prescribed a MASSIVE dose of Klonopin for an indefinate period with no restrictions or even a pep talk. I had the misfortune to ride in a vehicle with her for an 80 mile round trip on an interstate during which time we nearly slammed into the rear end of MANY vehicles because of slow reaction times. There were countless incidents, and I told her to call her Dr. immediately and ask him about driving because she was unsafe to herself and others on this high a dose. His response was to ask her what she thought...and if she felt safe to drive. She said yes, she thought so...but she also respected my opinion that she wasn't. He told her if she felt safe, then she was probably okay. She continued driving for another few days until she drove off into a ditch pulling out her driveway. (She couldn't react fast enough to turn the car wheel.) THank God she didn't hurt anyone.

I don't think Klonopin is probably any worse than any other drug, but it sure can be abusively used....and prescribed. (I wish that Dr had ridden in a car with her during that time.)

Kelly :) sorry for the rant

I didn't realize Klonopin was still being prescribed. I thought it was a largely discredited drug of the 80's and 90's

DavidMn 02-11-2006 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
One minute she's happy the next, slightly hostile. There's that familiar listlessness in her voice that I remember from that period. Thank god she made it.

I know. Sometimes when I see this stuff I shake my head in amazement that she fought thru it somehow.:nod:

AliceLover 02-11-2006 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3
For the record she has stated" I wrote most of the songs for the TOSOTM before I starting taking the Klonopin so I kind of slipped by on that one"

yeah I have stated that before but there was some contreversary. DO you have an interview where she says that? id like to read it with my own eyes.

AliceLover 02-11-2006 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JWS
I didn't realize Klonopin was still being prescribed. I thought it was a largely discredited drug of the 80's and 90's

I didn't think so but when I overheard some jocks at my school saying that the take it for "fun" i couldn't believe it.


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