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DavidMn 01-03-2006 01:13 PM

Miners trapped in West Virginia
 
The latest I've heard about the 13 miners trapped in a shaft is that they tried to contact them but had no response. It doesnt look too good. I have alot fo respect for someone that would take a dangerous job like that. Not only ids there the threat of explosions from methane, but they have to be down there in that dank air. Here's hoping against hope they come out alive.:angel:

ontheEdgeof17 01-03-2006 02:15 PM

Yeah. This is going on about an hour from where I live. I've been out and about today and haven't heard the latest.

It's a sad situation.

DavidMn 01-03-2006 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
Yeah. This is going on about an hour from where I live. I've been out and about today and haven't heard the latest.

It's a sad situation.

Just curious, has anyone in your family ever done this kind of work Curtis? Happy New Year btw.:)

ontheEdgeof17 01-03-2006 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
Just curious, has anyone in your family ever done this kind of work Curtis? Happy New Year btw.:)

Nope. I'm not a coal miner's daughter. I come from a background of farmers and electricians.

DavidMn 01-03-2006 02:40 PM

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Nope. I'm not a coal miner's daughter. I come from a background of farmers and electricians.

Damn, I didn't even think of that line, but you ran with it. Very nice.:lol:

JazmenFlowers 01-03-2006 02:41 PM

this is so sad...I can't imagine being trapped like that. the latest I heard is that the air is way way beyond toxic. just sad.

GODDESS6 01-03-2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
this is so sad...I can't imagine being trapped like that. the latest I heard is that the air is way way beyond toxic. just sad.

they keep showing the wives & family members & it breaks my heart, i just can't imagine this~

DavidMn 01-03-2006 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GODDESS6
they keep showing the wives & family members & it breaks my heart, i just can't imagine this~

I hope the media is being tasteful about this and not getting their camera's in the families faces. that would piss me off:mad:

GODDESS6 01-03-2006 09:22 PM

One Body Found in West Virginia Mine Where 13 Miners Were Trapped for More Than 38 Ho
 
http://omaha.cox.net/cci/newsnationa...e&id=D8ETIR7O4

TALLMANSVILLE, W.Va. -- Family members were told Tuesday that one body was found in a West Virginia mine where 13 miners were trapped for more than 38 hours.

John Groves, whose brother Jerry Groves is among the trapped miners, said Gov. Joe Manchin announced about 9 p.m. that rescuers found one body in a mine car.

Red Cross volunteer Tamila Swiger, who was inside the Sago Baptist Church, said family members were hyperventilating at the news.

The body was not identified.

There was no immediate word the fate of the other 12 miners.:distress: :distress: :distress:

estranged4life 01-03-2006 11:57 PM

Good news!!!
 
The remaining 12 miners have been found alive!!! That is great news!!!

Johnny Stew 01-04-2006 12:38 AM

Yes, thank God they've found the 12 remaining miners alive. When they announced finding the first one, my heart sank -- I assumed the others shared his fate.

I feel awful for the family of the one who didn't survive, but the fact that anyone lived... let alone 12 of the 13... is amazing.

WelshWitchPMD 01-04-2006 01:07 AM

Glad that 12 have been found alive. I hope that they are OK. I do feel bad for the family of the one who did not make it.

estranged4life 01-04-2006 02:59 AM

Sad...absolutely sad...
 
how it went from reports that 12 of the 13 were alive to reports (MSNBC/Rita Crosby & CNN/Anderson Cooper) now stating only 1 miner was found alive...I feel for those families after the roller coaster they are on...

Truly a sad day.

Johnny Stew 01-04-2006 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life
how it went from reports that 12 of the 13 were alive to reports (MSNBC/Rita Crosby & CNN/Anderson Cooper) now stating only 1 miner was found alive...I feel for those families after the roller coaster they are on...

Truly a sad day.

Oh no! :distress: I just read a Yahoo News article about 8 minutes ago, and they were still saying all 12 were alive.

Damnit, I just checked Yahoo News again, and they're reporting the same thing in a one paragraph update....

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Families Say 11 of 12 W.Va. Miners Dead
1 minute ago

TALLMANSVILLE, W.Va. - Family members report that 11 of the 12 coal miners who were initially thought to have survived an explosion in a coal mine have died. The sole survivor is hospitalized.
This is absolutely heartbreaking.

ontheEdgeof17 01-04-2006 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

This is absolutely heartbreaking.

Yup. The one report was false. There is really is only one survivor, who is in serious condition at my hospital. :(

Brwn_eyes0511 01-04-2006 06:19 AM

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Yup. The one report was false. There is really is only one survivor, who is in serious condition at my hospital. :(

I signed on to drudge earlier, and the news flash said that 12 of them were found alive...and then an hour later it said that 12 were dead! :distress:

so sad...

GODDESS6 01-04-2006 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
Yup. The one report was false. There is really is only one survivor, who is in serious condition at my hospital. :(

awwww curtis, this is so damn sad, when i went to bed, they thought all 12 were alive, imagine my sadness whan i woke this morning only to hear that 1 survived~ bless that poor man, how awful that musta been~ also to all the families put on that emotional rollercaster w/ the false reporting~ my heart breaks for all of them:distress: :distress: :distress: ~

Rickypt 01-04-2006 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GODDESS6
when i went to bed, they thought all 12 were alive, imagine my sadness whan i woke this morning only to hear that 1 survived~

Same here, I just woke up and turned on the news. How tragic (and how did the news get it so wrong????)

skcin 01-04-2006 10:37 AM

Nobody knows for sure who screwed up. This is horrific. :(

ontheEdgeof17 01-04-2006 10:42 AM

I can't bear to watch the news today. No way. No how. A few guys were from the town I went to college in. I probably saw them around....

Rickypt 01-04-2006 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by skcin
Nobody knows for sure who screwed up. This is horrific. :(

Apparently one of the family members received a cellphone call from a rescuer, misinterpreted the information, and that's how the whole sad mess started.

I saw the "good" news break. Rita Cosby started by saying that "AP and MSNBC have confirmed...."

Confirmation should be getting official word from authorities. The standard for news has sunk so low.

I can't watch the news either. I refuse to watch cameras shoved in the face of grieving people.

Livia 01-04-2006 11:06 AM

Wow - the front page of our paper this morning shows relatives/friends rejoicing at the "false report." :(

Rickypt 01-04-2006 11:35 AM

Mine too, very poor taste.

ontheEdgeof17 01-04-2006 11:41 AM

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Wow - the front page of our paper this morning shows relatives/friends rejoicing at the "false report." :(

Yup. They went to print with the "confirmed" story at midnight.


I'm thinking this incident might change the way the news is presented for the good. It's major.

sara1998 01-04-2006 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia
Wow - the front page of our paper this morning shows relatives/friends rejoicing at the "false report." :(

Ya- so does ours. How bad does that suck?

Rickypt 01-04-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
I'm thinking this incident might change the way the news is presented for the good. It's major.

I really hope so, Curtis. This era of 24 hour news and the mad rush to be the "first" has some major problems.

And my paper, the SF Chronicle, has the accurate news story because it went to print later. But it still chose to run a picture of two women celebrating the "good" news", which I find to be in poor taste.

DavidMn 01-04-2006 03:50 PM

Can someone be held criminally or civily liable for this false information coming out and putting those families through this? if not it should be!!:mad: Someone's head MUST ROLL:mad:

dissention 01-04-2006 03:52 PM

I was watching Anderson last night (or early morning) when a woman approached him onscreen and told him that only one survived and that word had to get out. That was quite shocking. Him and Randi Kaye looked like they were going to go on a murderous rampage when they realized that they were reporting bogus information.

DavidMn 01-04-2006 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I was watching Anderson last night (or early morning) when a woman approached him onscreen and told him that only one survived and that word had to get out. That was quite shocking. Him and Randi Kaye looked like they were going to go on a murderous rampage when they realized that they were reporting bogus information.

Sounds like your man had his facts straight. Too bad no one else did.

dissention 01-04-2006 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
Sounds like your man had his facts straight. Too bad no one else did.

I'd like to know why officials let the media report bogus information for so long without attempting to correct them. It doesn't make a lick of sense. It shouldn't be coming from some random woman off the street, it should be coming from officials who had the correct information to begin with. It's Election 2000 all over again.

JazmenFlowers 01-04-2006 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I'd like to know why officials let the media report bogus information for so long without attempting to correct them. It doesn't make a lick of sense. It shouldn't be coming from some random woman off the street, it should be coming from officials who had the correct information to begin with. It's Election 2000 all over again.

true. has anyone else seen the interview with the governor? he was oblivious to accurate information...for, he says, 30 minutes.

ummm, ok, and...

Rickypt 01-04-2006 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
Sounds like your man had his facts straight. Too bad no one else did.

How did he have his facts straight? He reported that the 12 were alive at the same time everyone else did.

They all blew it; in their eagerness to be the first to report, and in their own obvious excitement (which is understandable), they reported information as fact without confirming it with the appropriate officials.

SuzeQuze 01-04-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I'd like to know why officials let the media report bogus information for so long without attempting to correct them. It doesn't make a lick of sense. It shouldn't be coming from some random woman off the street, it should be coming from officials who had the correct information to begin with. It's Election 2000 all over again.

Everyone's so caught up in their image and making things look good that they screw everything up. How's that for over generalizing? What I mean is, politicians and others in the public eye won't apologize when they screw up because of how it will look, plus they will ignore "bad" information even if it is true. They need to have some f*cking character and integrity training. They obviously have completely lost sight of what it means to "serve" the public.

Then there are the news outlets who have made selling the priority over reporting. That is a shoddy way of prioritizing the stories of our people.

We haven't even gotten into the negligence that company must be guilty of for such a heinous thing to have happened to their workers. :mad: :mad: :mad: Anderson will likely be rolling some heads tonight! :mad:

Rickypt 01-04-2006 05:25 PM

This is an interesting opinion piece that captures a lot of my thoughts on the media situation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...e_b_13245.html

DavidMn 01-04-2006 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickypt
How did he have his facts straight? He reported that the 12 were alive at the same time everyone else did.

They all blew it; in their eagerness to be the first to report, and in their own obvious excitement (which is understandable), they reported information as fact without confirming it with the appropriate officials.

Well, what I meant was that he got it right before anyone else did. SHouldnt have taken someone on the street to do that though.

estranged4life 01-04-2006 06:56 PM

What bothers me...
 
the most about this situation is how those families had to feel from going from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows in mere moments.

Very heartbreaking...


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