Isn't it frustrating...
 

...when noone shares your interest in FM?
I will explain myself: I am very very glad that I have found this forum because apart from the information I can get, I have finally the chance to chat with people that like the same music I do.
Where I live, FM have never been particularly popular -or should I say as big as in the US (don't ask me why:shrug: ) and even if they had been in the past, nowadays I have the feeling that nobody listens to them except me (that does not normally bother me, but it is kind of sad that I can't find so much stuff about FM here - books or rare recordings).
But what I really hate is when people become really sarcastic when they discover that I am into them. I know you can't always share the same music tastes, but when it comes to FM, they act as if they were completely laughable! The other day I gave Rumours to my best friend, who is supposed to be really into music, and she was like "how in the world can you listen to this stuff in the year 2005??" (as if it matters what year it is when it comes to good music). And what is even more frustrating is that she likes groups or singers that have openly admitted that they were influenced by FM (like, let's say, Tori Amos) but when it comes to FM, she thinks that are silly, aged, or I don't know what else. And istead of being happy that she got one of the best records of all time as a gift she went on with her "my-music-tastes-are-so-sophisticated-I-listen-to-Bjork-and-David-Holmes" kind of thing.
Of course I am not expecting everyone to like them, but I think people should appreciate bands that have been a landmark in music history and even when they don't like them, they should just say: "not my taste exactly, but I see why they were that big". When you can't do that, I think that you are just clueless about music.
In the meantime, I'll just watch my Dance and Live in Boston dvds on my own (or with my boyfriend who is kind enough to listen to them, while not a fan, just because I like them!)
I am sorry for the long post, just needed to vent !
Love and merry Xmas to you all
elie

You wouldn't be living in the Netherlands, would you? That all sounds pretty familiar, though it has become better the last few years. Back in the nineties, when I was still in school, I wouldn't even dare to tell some people I was a fan!
Just do your own thing, don't let other people dictate your tastes :) At least you're original ;)

Thanx! No, I live in Athens, Greece. The same happens in the Netherlands eh?
I still don't dare to say that I am into them. I know it's stupid but when I get reactions like "what? are you crazy??" I am really bored to answer back.

I'm in Ireland and there's a bit of interest scattered here and there ... but not in the same realm of obsession as me -- and Angelick Witch :wavey: !!

If people respect your opinion then it can be cool to have a band that nobody else is into, it can be sort of 'your' thing. That's certainly how it is for me. In that regard it's sometimes good to not be one of the crowd.

But when people keep just slamming you down for it, it can be hard ....

I've certainly found solace in these boards anyway.

It's not quite as dire here in Canada, but I have yet to find someone who is as hard core as me. I meet people who say they like FM and I ask what their favorite song is and they say "Don't Stop" or the like. I wanna talk about Tusk demos and of course they have no clue. Most of my friends only like FM because their parents have Rumours, but I guess it's better than nothing. Most people respect me for my musical taste anyways. It's pretty obvious what a music geek I am. But I always say, you can't argue with Fleetwood Mac. Maybe they're not you're thing, but you can't listen to Rumours or a Greatest Hits compilation (I say that because I would give a newbie a copy of Tusk or TITN...I'd say you've gotta be into it before you appreciate those) and not get how solid this band is.

And that's what I have to say about that.

With me, its hard to admit to it, because most of my friends like Zeppeling and the Beatles, but yet loath Fleetwood Mac. But a lot more people know about them then I thought. And I actually know someone else who is more obsessed than I am...and its my old gym teacher...lol. On this trip I went on for the school, we talked for like a half hour about it. My friends were kinda like "uh...why did you just talk to her about a 70s band for 15 minutes?" but it was pretty cool...

my wife hates fleetwood mac. we've been together for 20 years and i can't seem to crack her. i took her to see lindsey on his OOTCT and she was really impressed. she also went to see FM w/ me on the Dance tour. I think she has issues with Stevie. All of her highschool boyfriends had crushes on Stevie.
Oh well. She does appreciate the musicianship but I can't make her a fan.

On all other musical fronts we connect - so whathayagonnado?

I hear you. Aside from two good friends, who are just as excited as I am when I get new material and present it to them (they are not that internet savvy themselves) nobody here really cares for FM. My boss listens to them, actually asked me a copy of the FM greatest hits album for Christmas, because she used to listen to them all the time back then, but other than that she doesn't understand the obsession. Everybody else just goes :shrug: . Most of the time I don't even tell people. When a discussion about music comes up, and FM is mentioned, I just go 'oh right, yeah, I like them'. No need to get in yet another argument about whether they are that good that you need to collect bootlegs, demos and what not else. They just don't understand.

lol! Your youthful naiivity is so cute!
Fleetwood Mac strikes a big chord with Ireland. Fans still turn out in droves to even see tribute band 'Rumours Of Fleetwood Mac' when they play here every once in a while. And Very Best Of Fleetwood Mac has been on the lower end of the album charts since ..forever,and about three or four years ago Rumours reached number 11 in the album charts having hung about the top 20 for ages and ages following renewed interest in it! There's alot of seriously obsessed fans out there!
BTW 100-102 Today FM I think are doing an hour special on the Mac on Tue at bout 6pm..listen out for it! :)

*mutters* Youthful naiivity my :mad: .... Happy Christmas!! What do you mean by that?!!

Thanks for the tip off. Looking forward to that.

It's very similar in Italy, when I'm lucky the answer I get is "Fleetwood Mac? The band with Stevie Nicks?" Or "Ummm... Rumours, right?" .
My friends usually are not surprised, my "strange" tastes in music and cinema aren't a news for them. And when I meet someone who makes a not so nice comment I go for fun, saying something like:
''Yes, Fleetwood Mac, you know the kind of band that use real instruments and not these unpersonal plastic computer samples tailored on sclerotic and easy- to-please audiences.

If I want to play a bit more:
Old? Well, not really. It's like to say that most prog rock even with very fresh bands like Taal are already dead. Well, Spock's Beard are a bit. It's just that to listen to copies becomes tiring don't you think? And their lyrics are archetypical, and blend very well also with today's input, Say You Will in 2003 was quite enthralling.

If I want to be really bad:
Out of times? That's interesting, it's like to say that Tsai Ming Liang movies aren't disconnective elements of 2000's vibes, or that Grotowki doesn't replicate through classics hot jazz rhythm to talk of today's society. I'm surprised you think that. Didn't you like Oasis by Lee Chang-Dong?

It doesn't have to make sense (it helps but it's not necessary), and when they start weeping or become suddenly silent you can go away smiling.

Romy

Romy you're mean :laugh:

I have simila frustrations although I don't widely let it known although I have toled more people lately given how excited I am with next year's Stevie tour down under because I can't contain myself, they don't knock me down or anything but generally they just couldn't care less and find it wierd I am travelling to three cities to see the same person perform.

my friends do like FM, (those of my generation) but they got tired of my fanatism, ha ha. Specially in 1997 after coming back from the Reunion concert in NYC (nov.). I used to play for them the Dance CD every day...

Sometimes I get upset because they do bad jokes about my taste for FM. But now I understand them. A new friend arrived to the group, he's a fan of Gloria Estefan. I like her but.. OMG I get sick every time I visit him. It's always Gloria, Gloria, and Gloria (cd, tape, dvd, mp3, ipod, and even vynil albums!!!)

Now I've undestood and forgiven my friends. Sometines it's so annoying to have a fanatic friend.

Europe doens't respect any Rock hero.
For me?? I'm proud beiing a Ledgie. Not into following trends and more.
If it don't fit,.. don't force it. Just look what's around you.
Example. We (Netherlands) have a chart where everyone can vote over the internet. Since 1999 up till last year, the best three.
1. Bohemian rapsody - Queen
2. Hotel California - Eagles
3. Child in time - Deep Purple.
Every storyteller can give my a warm feeling when it comes to these songs.

People say Dutch people are very open minded, progessive and so on. Maybe??
And maybe,.. that's our problem, we forget our pop roots, we suddenly like Racoon, Direct and more. Just so we have arguments and the laughs are on our side. It's not easy. But i just dan't care. My friends react like OHH NOO when i play a cd or DVD. I don't mind.
That is why this board is excisting, right?
We didn't get any info, before the internet. No shared files, and so on.
Now we have this, an exceptional site were we can slip our toughts to this world. It's the best we can do.
If Greek, German, Spanish or Dutch won't discuss FM with us, well,... we are ledgies . We are used to the fact that FM is what is is. But we still enjoy it, don't we??

Will:thumbsup:

Its extremely frustrating because all the girls I've ever dated have hated Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks. One girl, it grew on her as we dated and she now likes them. But several of my other serious relationships hated them right from the get-go.

Dear God yes! Also, fanatic 12 year old cousins. That's a tough one.

A while back I decided I've been a fanatic friend for too long. So these days I'm just trying to shut up a bit about the Mac ... not easy but I'm sure it makes life more bearable for my mates.

I don't normally tell anyone about my favourite band unless they ask me.

I never try and convince anyone to like them because I probably won't succeed.

If they don't like the band then fine - that's their loss.

I usually go to concerts on my own because I can't be bothered explaining. Yes that's Stevie. Yes Mick is very TALL. Yes that is the Grand Prix music - now can you SHUT UP AND LISTEN?

Gail

:nod: At times. ;)

Seriously, if other people don't like FM or Stevie, no problem at all, but if they express tough judgements without knowing them or basing their ideas on prejudices, I got game. :)

Romy

Boudewijn de Groot on no. 1 this year, Will! :shocked: :D
And the mac is in the Top 2000 14 times!

I was happy to find out about the fanmagazines in the nineties, because it was very lonely indeed to be a mac-fan without the internet!

I am having loads of fun as 'StevieNicks' in the Top 2000 chatbox. They all love the Mac there. :xoxo:

No doubt. I could tell you stories about when I was in high school in the 80's and my friends made fun of me cause I listened to Fleetwood Mac. The thing is Fleetwood Mac makes YOU happy and that's all that should matter. People that tell you that youre passe or whatever for liking them need to get a life

HI Bryan
What part of Ireland are you from? Im from Newry. Anyway your right about the Fleetwood Mac Fan Situation in Ireland. Sell out gigs in both the Piont Depot and The odessey in Belfast speak for themselves.
Whats the chances do you think of the Mac returning. I'll be bringing my Model 1 to get it signed. I didnt have it before is seen the two 2003 concerts.
Im a huge lindsey buckingham fan and its crazy to find that no one knows who he is unitl u mention fleetwood, then theyre like "YEAH NOW I KNOW WHO YOUR ON ABOUT."

did you get a listen to the today FM show i totally missed it. was it any good?

Hi there...
Right, I know this wasn't addressed to me but I'm only about twenty minutes over the border in Dundalk .... so ... hi! :wavey:

You can download the show from www.todayfm.com. Go to the Last Word page and go to previous shows. The sound quality's not brilliant and as far as I could see they just played a lot of songs, not really much discussion ... it's there if you're interested though.

ah sure thats just great, im always in dundalk visiting the pubs and gettin diesel. and i did honestly mean to say hi to you also but after reading it again you didnt get a mention.good news with the today fm download, i'll do that now.
will get chattin to you later im sure.

take care

paul

I love the shopping in Newry....

Cool to talk to you

I wanna go to Ireland soo bad. I almost went to the Dublin shows in November of '03, but by then the cash supply was a little short. (((SIGH))) Oh well. I'll bet you went. How is the venue they played at? I think It's called The Point?

What, you were going to fly over for a concert? I thought we went over to you guys for the concerts! :rolleyes:

The Point is where they played last time round. I wasn't at that concert but I've been to The Point a lot of times, it's a very nice venue. In comparison to the big places in America and England it's very small but that's fairly good because no matter where you sit the band members aren't going to look like a dot on the stage.

I hear there are plans to knock the whole place and build a new one. Which is a pity, it's a lovely building. :distress: Is that true?

EDIT: By the way, I wasn't at the concert because at the time I wasn't into the Mac ... that came about three months after they'd been and gone. D'oh!

May I say I am totally jealous of all of you talking about old or newer FM tours??:(
Do you believe that FM have never played in my country?? (at least not to my recollection, but I am pretty sure I would have remembered).

I think it is completely outrageous

Where are you?

:)
Athens, Greece.
Do you perhaps know if they have ever played here?

Never heard of them playing there ... don't really know where you could find out.

Would you travel to see them? I don't know where to, but would you?

I don't think they've ever played Greece, but here's a page with a pretty decent looking record of their tours:

http://www.fmlegacy.com/main.html

Look under History and click on Past Tour Pages

Thanks!

Irrelevant unrelated fact: Stevie Nicks played a concert in Dublin FOUR DAYS before I was born!!

What are the chances ....? It's destiny, right ..... it's gotta be ...... :nod:








:distress: Sorry. I'll stop now

Not with Stevie Nicks, they haven't.

But you guys have Socrates & Aristophanes!! You don't need Fleetwood Mac. :blob2: :blob1: :blob1: :]

Lol!
*sigh* not quite the same, though.

What I don't get is that we always have a lot of so-called indie bands playing here and they are always sold out but we rarely get the chance to see bigger or older bands like FM.
Maybe they find it a bit unprofitable to play here- it's a small country and it's far away and they will need extra planes instead of trucks etc. I don't know.

HI:) , Well I rarley venture out of "stevie land" as some call it, but I read your post and wanted to say hello :wavey: What I have done in that situation is first find out what kind of music my friend tends to like. Then Insted of giving them a copy of say "Rumors" or "the greatest hits" I will give friends compilations of songs that I know they will enjoy. "FLEETWOOD MAC" with all of its various and different albums and members and their albums has bound to have something for everyone. Blues: oh well is awsome for those blues lovers : pop song: anything by christine "experimental indie brilliant but incoherent : lindsey or even if they like something random like techno play them stevies "planets of the universe remix, or since they seem to be mentioning what year it is right now play them the new Dreams remix. There is alittle something for everyone, you just gotta find it. but I agree with you, it can be frustrating but at least we have each other on the ledge!:thumbsup:

:wavey:
That (the compilation) is a great idea Phoenix :)
I had nevet actually thought of that. I had always thought that a simple greatest hits would do in those cases .

And may I say once again I am soooo happy I found the Ledge:] :woohoo:

welcome and enjoy...... And try that compilation idea, I am telling you it works!:nod:

Anyone else find people don't realize who the songs are BY? I went vinyl hunting with a friend and I put The Very Best in the CD player and she kept saying "I didn't know this was Fleetwood Mac. I like this song."

That was me when I started listening to them again during '97. I never knew those songs I remember my mom playing were The 'Mac.