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foxyluva 12-11-2005 03:32 AM

Twisted
 
I am slowley getting into this song. I have only heard the demo from enchanted though, and i heard the released version is not as good :shrug: can any body post the mp3??

paleshadow 12-11-2005 04:21 AM

I think the studio version is very good also. It's always nice to hear Lindsey and Stevie singing together. It's readily available on the soundtrack to "Twister". I like the demo, studio, and live versions all really well, but in different ways.

Jyqm 12-11-2005 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva
I am slowley getting into this song. I have only heard the demo from enchanted though, and i heard the released version is not as good :shrug: can any body post the mp3??

The full version of the song is good, and the added bridge is nice, but a lot of the song just kind of sits there. It doesn't have the movement of the demo, and the drums never really push it along, which is pretty inexplicable, considering it's Mick playing on the full version and just a really basic pre-recorded drum loop playing on the demo. The Buckingham/Nicks harmonies aren't that tight either.

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2...Z07GYH35HEZ1B3

Mageboy25 12-11-2005 06:56 AM

This just sounds like another CRAPY unfished SHIIT song of hers(cough cough Street Angel album cough cough). Who produced this crap? Hey at least on the Enchanted tour we got treated to the strobe lights and wind effects when the song came on lol!

Mageboy25 12-11-2005 07:01 AM

You know to me this song is like Sweet Girl Part 1. To me Stevie wrote both songs, composed and recorded while she was constipated on some toilet for hours with a bad hangover and smokers cough.

Jyqm 12-11-2005 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mageboy25
This just sounds like another CRAPY unfished SHIIT song of hers(cough cough Street Angel album cough cough). Who produced this crap?

I'm pretty sure Lindsey did, if you can believe it.

WildInTheWind 12-11-2005 11:13 AM

The soundtrack version is 100% better than the Enchanted version IMO. I didn't like the song until I heard it from the soundtrack.

UnwindedDreams 12-11-2005 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WildInTheWind
The soundtrack version is 100% better than the Enchanted version IMO. I didn't like the song until I heard it from the soundtrack.

I really don't know which one is better.:shrug:

ELIUD 12-11-2005 12:07 PM

I've always liked the Lindsey version better. When I heard the anemic demo from Enchanted I couldn't believe Stevie ever wanted us to hear it. The guitar adds so much more on the soundtrack version. I think Lindsey wanted to mimmick the whirlwind of a tornado tearing through a town with it. At least that's what I think of when I hear it. Plus the "crazy men, crazy women...crying out for love" line really resonates better with both of them singing it.

WildInTheWind 12-11-2005 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ELIUD
I've always liked the Lindsey version better. When I heard the anemic demo from Enchanted I couldn't believe Stevie ever wanted us to hear it. The guitar adds so much more on the soundtrack version. I think Lindsey wanted to mimmick the whirlwind of a tornado tearing through a town with it. At least that's what I think of when I hear it. Plus the "crazy men, crazy women...crying out for love" line really resonates better with both of them singing it.


And it has the "I know you know watching you go is like dying...it's like dying" line. I love the way they sing that together. I usually rewind that part 2 or 3 times before letting the song finish. :p

blinker12 12-11-2005 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
The full version of the song is good, and the added bridge is nice, but a lot of the song just kind of sits there. It doesn't have the movement of the demo, and the drums never really push it along, which is pretty inexplicable, considering it's Mick playing on the full version and just a really basic pre-recorded drum loop playing on the demo. The Buckingham/Nicks harmonies aren't that tight either.

I agree. I love the demo, but feel the Lindsey version is just so-so. Too produced.

AliceLover 12-11-2005 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WildInTheWind
The soundtrack version is 100% better than the Enchanted version IMO. I didn't like the song until I heard it from the soundtrack.

Same here. When I first heard that I was like WTF is this. Terrible.

Then I saw it on my first bootleg the Woodstock 98 show and LOVED it!

David 12-11-2005 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blinker12
I agree. I love the demo, but feel the Lindsey version is just so-so. Too produced.

Could you explain what you mean specifically?

chiffon head 12-11-2005 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WildInTheWind
And it has the "I know you know watching you go is like dying...it's like dying" line. I love the way they sing that together. I usually rewind that part 2 or 3 times before letting the song finish. :p

Yes:nod: I love that part too. Perfect!

Renee

foxyluva 12-11-2005 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
The full version of the song is good, and the added bridge is nice, but a lot of the song just kind of sits there. It doesn't have the movement of the demo, and the drums never really push it along, which is pretty inexplicable, considering it's Mick playing on the full version and just a really basic pre-recorded drum loop playing on the demo. The Buckingham/Nicks harmonies aren't that tight either.

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2...Z07GYH35HEZ1B3

Thank for posting! :woohoo: I do like the studio version, but the mandolin on the demo's bridge/chorus is gorgeous!

JazmenFlowers 12-11-2005 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WildInTheWind
And it has the "I know you know watching you go is like dying...it's like dying" line. I love the way they sing that together. I usually rewind that part 2 or 3 times before letting the song finish. :p

sweet jesus, you too? I freakin love that part.

Travis 12-11-2005 03:37 PM

Personally, I find "Twisted" to be one of Stevie's best songs ever. With the "lull" period she had during the early 90's, on "Twisted" she sounds like she is on her way back. Heartfelt lyrics and passionate vocals, ah, I remember thinking, "Stevie is back." Truly one of her better songs.

danax6 12-11-2005 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blinker12
I agree. I love the demo, but feel the Lindsey version is just so-so. Too produced.

I like both. It's definitely one of my favourite songs. The only thing that I don't really like about the Buckingham/Nicks version are the harmonies. Usually their voices together sound perfect, but there are a few instances during the song where I feel they could have blended better. But hey, as someone else already said, the 'watching you go is like dying' part makes up more than enough for that. :nod:

blinker12 12-11-2005 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Could you explain what you mean specifically?

Sure... I find the finished version of the song a little too glossy and heavy-handed musically. What I love about the demo is its lightness -- just acoustic guitars, voice and a drum track. I love Stevie's self-harmonizing, and I think the guitar overdub that Jesse Valenzuela does on the choruses is simply gorgeous.
It certainly doesn't sound like a finished track, but for me that's part of its charm. Also, I think Jyqm is on to something when he says the demo "moves" better. The finished version kind of lands with a thud...
All just IMO of course. :)

DavidMn 12-11-2005 05:09 PM

I'm not a big fan of this song at all, but that's just me.:o

WildInTheWind 12-11-2005 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
sweet jesus, you too? I freakin love that part.

Without that part, the song just isn't the same.

JazmenFlowers 12-11-2005 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WildInTheWind
Without that part, the song just isn't the same.

yeppers :nod:

I think this song is extremely deep and meaningful on many different levels. (as is typical of Stevie)

ThePenguin 12-11-2005 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WildInTheWind
And it has the "I know you know watching you go is like dying...it's like dying" line. I love the way they sing that together. I usually rewind that part 2 or 3 times before letting the song finish. :p

I do that, too. :) I love the twang of their voices together.

-Lis

Richard B 12-11-2005 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blinker12
Also, I think Jyqm is on to something when he says the demo "moves" better. The finished version kind of lands with a thud...

Like a twister? A real twister?

SteveMacD 12-11-2005 09:43 PM

Actually, it's one of my favorites. Really, after RAL and "Seven Wonders," I found it difficult to really get into new Stevie music in general. This song, as well as "Sweet Girl," showed signs of the Stevie I always loved. The songs were both very basic, but both have that underlying, understated intesity that make the songs wonderful. It's the same type of quality that made "Dreams" such a great song.

But, this song has a special meaning for me. A few months before the song was released, it was annoucned that Fleetwood Mac (Time version) had broken up. So part of me was upset at that there would be no more Fleetwood Mac. Then seemingly out of nowhere comes this gem, which features the three people who most needed a meeting of the minds in order for a reunion of the "Rumours" band to get back together. Within a few weeks, Stevie, Mick, John, and Chris all appeared together at the Kentucky Derby. Sure, it would be over a year until "The Dance," but I think with "Twisted" and the Kentucky Derby, everybody knew the Mac was coming back. So, for me, I always associate "Twisted" with Fleetwood Mac NOT being over.

Moony 12-12-2005 01:55 AM

The demo blows the soundtrack version away.

Ghost_Tracker 12-12-2005 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva
I am slowley getting into this song. I have only heard the demo from enchanted though, and i heard the released version is not as good :shrug: can any body post the mp3??


Not sure if this is obvious aleady, but try looking at the song from the
point of view of it being not just about tornados, but about how Stevie
views guys' perspectives and attitudes towards the world.
(Guys like Lindsey, for example...)
From that angle - the song takes on a much bigger meaning,
and maybe even ranks up there with some of Stevie's best, imo :nod:
(OH-kay, it's not Shakespeare, I admit! :lol: )

Travis 12-12-2005 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Moony
The demo blows the soundtrack version away.


wrong ......

Ghost_Tracker 12-12-2005 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis
Personally, I find "Twisted" to be one of Stevie's best songs ever. With the "lull" period she had during the early 90's, on "Twisted" she sounds like she is on her way back. Heartfelt lyrics and passionate vocals, ah, I remember thinking, "Stevie is back." Truly one of her better songs.


I love it too and definitely agree, but remember that this one was
produced for a specific movie, to their more-or-less specific
requirements. Personally I feel she nailed it and gave them exactly
what they were looking for, but i.m.o. this isn't exactly Stevie
"writing from her heart" here, it's more like being told what they were
looking for and giving it to them, as per the "script" of the movie.
But I DO feel that there's more to it than initially meets the eye.

ELIUD 12-12-2005 12:28 PM

I read that when she was asked to write the song, she was given the script and one of her assistants read parts of it to her or gave her a rundown of it. Taking that to mind, I think she delivers a pretty good song that ties directly to the movie and one that many people can relate to - and she does it in the classic Stevie Nicks style. It's a meladrama and metaphorically the story of a man and a woman in a stormy relationship that continually wreaks havoc on their lives but that they refuse to end. Delicious.

SuzeQuze 12-12-2005 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis
Personally, I find "Twisted" to be one of Stevie's best songs ever. With the "lull" period she had during the early 90's, on "Twisted" she sounds like she is on her way back. Heartfelt lyrics and passionate vocals, ah, I remember thinking, "Stevie is back." Truly one of her better songs.

I agree. There was something about the tempo though, I felt that for the theme it slogged along. I would have liked to hear a more straight ahead rock treatment of this song and not the AC it turned out as. I also think radio should have played this more, it has some hooks but they just didn't give it the time of day.

Sahara 12-12-2005 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
The full version of the song is good, and the added bridge is nice, but a lot of the song just kind of sits there. It doesn't have the movement of the demo, and the drums never really push it along, which is pretty inexplicable, considering it's Mick playing on the full version and just a really basic pre-recorded drum loop playing on the demo. The Buckingham/Nicks harmonies aren't that tight either.

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2...Z07GYH35HEZ1B3


Can you post that again please? The link's gone now ... and I've been DYING to hear this for ages.

Pretty please? ;)

Jyqm 12-12-2005 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sahara
Can you post that again please? The link's gone now ... and I've been DYING to hear this for ages.

Pretty please? ;)

Well... all right... but only because I'm soooooooooooooooo nice...

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...O1A19A1DRAE6B0

Sahara 12-12-2005 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
Well... all right... but only because I'm soooooooooooooooo nice...

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...O1A19A1DRAE6B0

You're sound, thanks a million.

*listens...*

Hmm ... not what I expected, but worth listening to all the same. I agree about the harmonies, though, there's something amiss there.

Thanks, you're a pal!! :wavey:

melly 12-13-2005 04:12 PM

cheers.... great, laidback version !!!! prefer it to the one on the box set. i like the song although it is slightly spoilt for me by the film Twister or whatever it was... i don't like helen hunt a hell of a lot :lol:

steviefan59 12-13-2005 07:02 PM

trying to access yousendit for twisted
 
hi everyone, i've been reading the threads on the ledge for over a year and finally joined a month or so ago. why can't i access the file that is posted for twisted? it says the download has expired or some such thing. can anyone give me another thread so i can hear twisted? thanks much..steviefan59

BTFLCHLD 12-13-2005 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by steviefan59
hi everyone, i've been reading the threads on the ledge for over a year and finally joined a month or so ago. why can't i access the file that is posted for twisted? it says the download has expired or some such thing. can anyone give me another thread so i can hear twisted? thanks much..steviefan59

try this second link that was posted
http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...O1A19A1DRAE6B0

steviefan59 12-13-2005 07:12 PM

thanks for posting the new yousendit. as a few people have said i enjoyed the song but something was off. not sure if it was the tempo or the mixing of the song....steviefan59

Jyqm 12-13-2005 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by melly
cheers.... great, laidback version !!!! prefer it to the one on the box set. i like the song although it is slightly spoilt for me by the film Twister or whatever it was... i don't like helen hunt a hell of a lot :lol:

No way, Twister ruled, and it contains the greatest line in cinema history:

"They're just in it for the money, not the science!"

Richard B 12-13-2005 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
Well... all right... but only because I'm soooooooooooooooo nice...

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...O1A19A1DRAE6B0

You're not nice, you're Jyqm.


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