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SortaSavageLike 12-09-2005 09:30 AM

50 most-downloaded FM songs on Itunes
 
Just thought this would be interesting...

1. Landslide
2. Dreams
3. The Chain
4. Rhiannon
5. Go Your Own Way
6. Gold Dust Woman
7. Gypsy
8. Second Hand News
9. Silver Springs
10. Sara
11. Never Going Back Again
12. Songbird
13. Say You Love Me
14. Little Lies
15. Hypnotized
16. Don't Stop
17. Tusk
18. Monday Morning
19. Everywhere
20. You Make Loving Fun
21. Over My Head
22. Hold Me
23. Sentimental Lady
24. I Don't Want to Know
25. World Turning
26. Peacekeeper
27. Say You Will
28. Seven Wonders
29. Warm Ways
30. Bleed to Love Her
31. Oh Well
32. I'm So Afraid
33. Blue Letter
34. Big Love
35. Thrown Down
36. Crystal
37. Tell Me All the Things You Do
38. Spare Me a Little of Your Love
39. Bare Trees
40. As Long as You Follow
41. No Questions Asked
42. For Your Love
43. Storms
44. Black Magic Woman
45. I'm Coming to Stay
46. I Loved Another Woman
47. Shake Your Moneymaker
48. Goodbye Baby
49. Steal Your Heart Away
50. Sweet Home Chicago

Gypsy-Rhiannon 12-09-2005 10:00 AM

How do you find out which are the most downloaded of an artist?

Pip

Jyqm 12-09-2005 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SortaSavageLike
Just thought this would be interesting...

Very! Thanks for posting!

1. Landslide

Now, is this the Dance version, the white album version, or both together?

2. Dreams
3. The Chain
4. Rhiannon
5. Go Your Own Way
6. Gold Dust Woman
7. Gypsy


Interesting, I'd not have guessed "Gold Dust Woman" would be above the likes of "Gypsy" (or "Silver Springs," for that matter).

8. Second Hand News
9. Silver Springs
10. Sara
11. Never Going Back Again
12. Songbird
13. Say You Love Me
14. Little Lies
15. Hypnotized
16. Don't Stop


It pleases to end to see that "Hypnotized" is not only so high up on the list, but that it also beats "Don't Stop." This is one pre-75 song that I'd love to see the current band tackle in concert. Not that that would ever happen. Ever.

17. Tusk
18. Monday Morning
19. Everywhere
20. You Make Loving Fun
21. Over My Head
22. Hold Me
23. Sentimental Lady


Again, nice to see a Bob Welch tune so high up on the list, especially when his solo version was a much bigger hit (though I've always preferred the Mac version, particularly because of Christine's vocals).

24. I Don't Want to Know
25. World Turning
26. Peacekeeper
27. Say You Will
28. Seven Wonders
29. Warm Ways
30. Bleed to Love Her
31. Oh Well
32. I'm So Afraid
33. Blue Letter
34. Big Love
35. Thrown Down


Which begs the question once again, why didn't they play this up as a single, or perform it in concert?

36. Crystal
37. Tell Me All the Things You Do


Weird! What on earth is this doing so high up on the list?

38. Spare Me a Little of Your Love
39. Bare Trees
40. As Long as You Follow
41. No Questions Asked
42. For Your Love


I've always thought this could have been a huge hit. Dammit, Weston...

43. Storms
44. Black Magic Woman
45. I'm Coming to Stay


Umm... Anyone?

46. I Loved Another Woman
47. Shake Your Moneymaker
48. Goodbye Baby
49. Steal Your Heart Away
50. Sweet Home Chicago


How bizarre. I assume this is the BBC version, because I don't know of any others, but why would it be so high up on this list? It's not even that great a performance.

And where's "Albatross?" And "Oh Daddy" (the only Rumours track not listed)?

ontheEdgeof17 12-09-2005 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
And where's "Albatross?" And "Oh Daddy" (the only Rumours track not listed)?


This might be a stretch but I'm guessing they are not in the Top 50. :shrug:

Jyqm 12-09-2005 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
This might be a stretch but I'm guessing they are not in the Top 50. :shrug:

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. That's why they weren't included in the "Top 50" list that was posted.

I realize they're obviously not in the top 50. I was just expressing my surprise at that fact and wondering where they are further down the list.

DavidMn 12-10-2005 01:49 PM

I'm surprised Gypsy wasnt higher.

gldstwmn 12-10-2005 02:36 PM

Hmm... 7 out of the top ten belong to Stevie. :)

DavidMn 12-10-2005 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Hmm... 7 out of the top ten belong to Stevie. :)

I'm not surprised by that.

gldstwmn 12-10-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
I'm not surprised by that.

I'm not either but some people might be.

DavidMn 12-10-2005 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
I'm not either but some people might be.

I wouldve like to see at least ONE CHristine song in there.Thats unfortunate.:(

SortaSavageLike 12-10-2005 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
I wouldve like to see at least ONE CHristine song in there.Thats unfortunate.:(

Songbird is at Number 12. I would have expected something a bit poppier to be honest. :shrug:

DavidMn 12-10-2005 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SortaSavageLike
Songbird is at Number 12. I would have expected something a bit poppier to be honest. :shrug:

Yeah, I agree with you there.

crylove77 12-10-2005 04:31 PM

Eh, I don't know. I know quite a few people who are not really FM fans who used Songbird as a wedding song. So I can see how it would be near the top. That's how I got most of my wedding music...downloading.

Jyqm 12-10-2005 04:59 PM

Okay, seriously, though, does anyone have any idea what "I'm Coming To Stay" is? It's certainly not a Fleetwood Mac song title; in fact, I don't think it's a song title for anyone. Could it be a misnomer for "Coming Your Way"?

Jyqm 12-10-2005 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Hmm... 7 out of the top ten belong to Stevie. :)

But she's much less common beyond that, interestingly. Outside the top ten, she doesn't show up again until #24. She's got fifteen total, if you count "Crystal" as a Stevie song.

Lindsey and Christine aren't too far behind: Christine has 11.5 (counting "World Turning" as a half) and dominates the latter half of the top 20, and Lindsey's got the same (again, counting "World Turning" as a half), though his songs are much more spread otu throughout the list.

JazmenFlowers 12-10-2005 07:19 PM

thanks for the list. it's pretty interesting. I don't find it odd that Stevie has more on the list, she's expanded her fan base, imo, more than Christine or Lindsey, but I am glad to see that the list is fairly evened out. It's also cool to see that there are some rather obscure songs on the list.

Does anyone write reviews on iTunes? I made a point to have at least one review for each Stevie album.

johndoe 12-10-2005 08:03 PM

Actually, if you look on Itunes right now, this list has changed quite a lot.

Serrart 12-10-2005 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Hmm... 7 out of the top ten belong to Stevie. :)

How strange, that's the first thing I've noticed too.:D

What surprised me was Storms ranked 43, I thought it would have been higher.

Romy

SteveMacD 12-10-2005 08:30 PM

The way I see it, the list as shown is pretty even. Three songs could be counted more than one way (The Chain, World Turning, and Crystal). Stevie had 14 songs, while Chirs, Lindsey, and pre-1975 Mac all had 11 songs. It's nowhere near as unbalanced as, say, the 1988 "Greatest Hits" package, where Lindsey had all of three hits compared to Christine's seven (or half of all the hits).

Jyqm 12-10-2005 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by johndoe
Actually, if you look on Itunes right now, this list has changed quite a lot.

Yes, I would imagine it changes quite a bit, since not that many people download songs from iTunes, relative to the number of people who buy music overall.

And the list I'm seeing right now includes a lot of "overlap." "Landslide" appears a bunch of times - the white album version (#1), some live AOL version (#4), the Dance version (#15), the Live in Boston version (#34) and the Live 1980 version (#38). Other songs appear multiple times as well, sometimes with the same version: "Go Your Own Way" is currently listed at both #7 (Greatest Hits) and #9 (Rumours). (Various live versions are listed at #39, #46 and #88.)

jwd 12-11-2005 02:31 AM

Crunch the numbers any way you want to. Stevie's always been the most popular member of FM, always will be. :xoxo:

JazmenFlowers 12-11-2005 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jwd
Crunch the numbers any way you want to. Stevie's always been the most popular member of FM, always will be. :xoxo:

you know what I appreciate is the fact that Lindsey is idolized by many for his awesome guitar play, Christine for her piano plucking and sweet voice and Stevie for her lyrics, vocal style and performance - it's just nice to see them all appreciated for what seems to be the basis of their love for music.

SteveMacD 12-11-2005 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jwd
Crunch the numbers any way you want to.

Okay, then, let's look at the 1988 "Greatest Hits" package. Christine had seven, Stevie had four, and Lindsey had three. Crunch THOSE numbers for a little while. Christine had half of the big hits. Or, what about this number: A few years back, Rolling Stone did a list of the 100 most essential songs in rock history, and there was only one listed from any member of Fleetwood Mac, and that was "Go Your Own Way" (26).
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Originally Posted by jwd
Stevie's always been the most popular member of FM, always will be. :xoxo:

Well, the hits certainly don't lie. Stevie may be the most recognizable, and may have had the most successful career of any Maccer, but it would appear that people are just as likely, maybe even MORE likely, to appreciate a Fleetwood Mac song on which she's the lead vocalist as they would a song on which Christine or Lindsey sing lead. The bottom line, and this is a fact Stevie fans don't seem to be able to grasp, is that Stevie may have the biggest name of anybody in the band, but when she's with Fleetwood Mac, she's still seen as being A MEMBER OF THE BAND. It begins to even out a bit. She is not as important to the "Rumours" band's popularity as Peter Green was to that incarnation of Fleetwood Mac, or as Christine Perfect was to Chicken Shack.

gldstwmn 12-11-2005 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
I wouldve like to see at least ONE CHristine song in there.Thats unfortunate.:(

Seven of the top 20 are hers. :)

Jyqm 12-11-2005 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jwd
Crunch the numbers any way you want to. Stevie's always been the most popular member of FM, always will be. :xoxo:

Ooh, almost, but thanks for playing! You still gets some lovely parting gifts, though. Tell her what she wins, Steve!

Lindsey Jr. 12-11-2005 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
you know what I appreciate is the fact that Lindsey is idolized by many for his awesome guitar play, Christine for her piano plucking and sweet voice and Stevie for her lyrics, vocal style and performance - it's just nice to see them all appreciated for what seems to be the basis of their love for music.

I Love your signature pic! :wavey:

jwd 12-11-2005 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
you know what I appreciate is the fact that Lindsey is idolized by many for his awesome guitar play, Christine for her piano plucking and sweet voice and Stevie for her lyrics, vocal style and performance - it's just nice to see them all appreciated for what seems to be the basis of their love for music.

Well, I cetainly will agree with that.

jwd 12-11-2005 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD
Or, what about this number: A few years back, Rolling Stone did a list of the 100 most essential songs in rock history, and there was only one listed from any member of Fleetwood Mac, and that was "Go Your Own Way" (26).

And "Dreams" was the only song of the Rumours incarnation of FM to go to #1. :shrug:


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Well, the hits certainly don't lie.
You have to remember too that when Lindsey and Stevie first joined FM, Chris was the "big sister" and had the lion share of songs on the first two albums and more of hers were released as singles. She had a jump start on the other two. :)

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The bottom line, and this is a fact Stevie fans don't seem to be able to grasp, is that Stevie may have the biggest name of anybody in the band, but when she's with Fleetwood Mac, she's still seen as being A MEMBER OF THE BAND.
I think what is harder to grasp is that some FM fans think that those of us who love Stevie can't appreciate the other members of the band or even the other incarnations of the band. But that is furthest from the truth. Or even worse, it's even more difficult for some FM fans to even appreciate Stevie as a memeber of FM.

jwd 12-11-2005 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
Ooh, almost, but thanks for playing! You still gets some lovely parting gifts, though. Tell her what she wins, Steve!

And who the F*** are you?!

Jyqm 12-11-2005 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jwd
And who the F*** are you?!

I'm Jyqm, see, it says my name right up there in the upper-left-hand corner of the post. It's like that for everybody, too! Really helpful in figuring out who wrote what and all.

Jyqm 12-11-2005 01:34 PM

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You have to remember too that when Lindsey and Stevie first joined FM, Chris was the "big sister" and had the lion share of songs on the first two albums and more of hers were released as singles. She had a jump start on the other two. :)
Or she had more songs that the band thought would make good hit singles.

If you're claiming that the only reason Christine has more hits than Stevie is because more of her songs were released as singles in the 70s, what's your excuse for the 80s? Both "Hold Me" and "Little Lies" charted much higher and remained on the charts longer than either "Gypsy" or "Seven Wonders." (That's in America.)

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I think what is harder to grasp is that some FM fans think that those of us who love Stevie can't appreciate the other members of the band or even the other incarnations of the band. But that is furthest from the truth.
It's an understandable conclusion to draw when folks spout off things like, "Stevie's the most popular member of Fleetwood Mac and always has been!" Which, as demonstrated, isn't necessarily true, depending on how you're defining "popular."

jwd 12-11-2005 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
If you're claiming that the only reason Christine has more hits than Stevie is because more of her songs were released as singles in the 70s, what's your excuse for the 80s? Both "Hold Me" and "Little Lies" charted much higher and remained on the charts longer than either "Gypsy" or "Seven Wonders." (That's in America.)


I was making reference to number of hits, and that's two apiece there. :)


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Originally Posted by Jyqm
It's an understandable conclusion to draw when folks spout off things like, "Stevie's the most popular member of Fleetwood Mac and always has been!" Which, as demonstrated, isn't necessarily true, depending on how you're defining "popular."

I was just stating, not spouting, the truth. Stevie is liked by more people than any other member of the band. That's my definition of popular. Whether it's her songs, her voice, her stage presence, or her style, more people are enamored with her. If you don't believe me, take a poll on this board to see who each Ledgie likes the most. It would be Stevie.

Jyqm 12-11-2005 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jwd
I was making reference to number of hits, and that's two apiece there.

Shall we throw in "Everywhere" then? Maybe "Love In Store," as well.

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I was just stating, not spouting, the truth. Stevie is liked by more people than any other member of the band. That's my definition of popular. Whether it's her songs, her voice, her stage presence, or her style, more people are enamored with her. If you don't believe me, take a poll on this board to see who each Ledgie likes the most. It would be Stevie.
Yes, a poll of Ledgies surely will be the most accurate way to measure such things, especially when it comes to the "always has been" and "always will be" portions of your claim.

David 12-11-2005 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD
The way I see it, the list as shown is pretty even. Three songs could be counted more than one way (The Chain, World Turning, and Crystal). Stevie had 14 songs, while Chirs, Lindsey, and pre-1975 Mac all had 11 songs. It's nowhere near as unbalanced as, say, the 1988 "Greatest Hits" package, where Lindsey had all of three hits compared to Christine's seven (or half of all the hits).

All this authorship brouhaha over the three writers from that time, as if they were all objects of a varyingly sized cult developing around them. Oh wait ... hehheheh ... they were/are.

I think in general it isn't a song's author that makes a Fleetwood Mac song (or probably anyone else's song) a hit: it's the song's lead singer plus the song's groove & hook (which are products of the whole band & the production team). When radio listeners responded to "For the Love of Money" in the mid 1970s by buying the 45 & calling radio stations to request airplay, they weren't responding to the person or persons who wrote the song. They were responding to a great pop track that sounded cool & was fun to sing to & that seemed powerful to them.

Madonna didn't have two decade's worth of huge hit singles because of Patrick Leonard or whoever actually wrote the song. Her singles were hits because of the work of many people involved in making cool grooves & hot hooks out of them, Madonna herself among them.

"Dreams," "Hold Me," "Gypsy," "Little Lies," "Go Your Own Way" ... these weren't big hits because of who wrote them. They were big hits because of what they sounded like on the radio, & that was all of Fleetwood Mac plus production team that pumped them full of cool. So to argue about this writer gets so many hits on a list or that writer gets fewer or more or whatever is off the mark to me. It really doesn't explain the punch in the hit.

The mistake fans make is to assume that anyone in the world who likes what they like is as far gone about the author or creator as they are -- that fallacy occurs in all the arts among all the audiences. You can't look at fifteen (or whatever) "hits" written by Christine McVie & recorded by Fleetwood Mac & assume that the majority of people who made those recordings hits by buying them are all gaga over Christine McVie or over Fleetwood Mac. They just loved the hook & maybe some other stuff about the song at that time. But fans have these weird sort of blinders on -- they're blind to the forces in the general audience that make those responses generate hits. We assume, just because we love the pretty words to "Storms" or "Crystal" & love the idea that these are personal aspects of Stevie's evolving self, that the public is responding to that very thing when they want to download it on iTunes. But that's just not a consistently logical jump to make.

I remember hearing a girl at UCSB humming "Gypsy" in 1982. So I stopped her & said, "Oh, so you're a Stevie Nicks fan?" First she was confused: "Who?" Then she said, "I just like the song."

jwd 12-11-2005 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
Shall we throw in "Everywhere" then? Maybe "Love In Store," as well.

Throw in whatever you'd like to. If you think that Chris is more "popular" than Stevie, then more power to you. :shrug:

HomerMcvie 12-11-2005 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jwd
I was just stating, not spouting, the truth. Stevie is liked by more people than any other member of the band. That's my definition of popular. Whether it's her songs, her voice, her stage presence, or her style, more people are enamored with her. If you don't believe me, take a poll on this board to see who each Ledgie likes the most. It would be Stevie.

Speak for yourself. CLEARLY, the LISTENING public preferred Chris' songs, over ole what's her name's. As for the cult of personality, Stevie probably does have the edge. But, judging from the fanbase, I'm not sure that's a compliment.:lol: :lol: :lol: (see how I inserted the smiley here, just to add fuel to the fire?).:lol: :lol: :lol: (there, I did it again!):lol: :lol: :lol:

AliceLover 12-11-2005 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
Shall we throw in "Everywhere" then? Maybe "Love In Store," as well.



Yes, a poll of Ledgies surely will be the most accurate way to measure such things, especially when it comes to the "always has been" and "always will be" portions of your claim.

Kind of OT but didn't Save Me and Skies the Limit do fairly well on the charts?

ryan8472 12-11-2005 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AliceLover
Kind of OT but didn't Save Me and Skies the Limit do fairly well on the charts?

Perhaps. But that doesn't mean anyone wants to listen to them now. :laugh: :sorry:

jwd 12-11-2005 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcVie
the LISTENING public preferred Chris' songs, over ole what's her name's.

To get back to the topic at hand, who has more songs in the top 10 Itunes?! :lol: :lol: :lol: Adds more fuel to the fire.

Jyqm 12-11-2005 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jwd
Throw in whatever you'd like to. If you think that Chris is more "popular" than Stevie, then more power to you. :shrug:

That's quite the rebuttal.


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