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foxyluva 11-22-2005 02:38 AM

Escape From Berlin
 
Who else adores this song?? I havn't had many things go my way recently and this song so totally represents where I am at the moment. These lyrics especially make me quite emotional, its like they are directed straight at me:

"But I covered my tears...Silent all day. It's out of my hands here...In my devastation...I wanted so to change...In my way...disaster was the only thing that I could depend on..."


I personally think that this is one of Stevie's best songs lyrically, no OTT mysticism :rolleyes:

Ghost_Tracker 11-22-2005 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva
Who else adores this song?? I havn't had many things go my way recently and this song so totally represents where I am at the moment. These lyrics especially make me quite emotional, its like they are directed straight at me:

"But I covered my tears...Silent all day. It's out of my hands here...In my devastation...I wanted so to change...In my way...disaster was the only thing that I could depend on..."


I personally think that this is one of Stevie's best songs lyrically, no OTT mysticism :rolleyes:

I love this song SO, SO, SO much!
Just pretend this space -----> [ ] contains a 10,000 page
manifesto about it, and that should begin to give you the
idea. :rolleyes:

And by the way, Stevie wrote and arranged this ENTIRE song all
by herself (that's on inherownwords.com , or at least floating around
somewhere) so she definitely can write an entire, reasonably complex
song all by herself, from beginning to final product.

She asked Rupert Hines to accept it as is without changing it, and
I think maybe the general idea is he thought to himself "OH MY G.
SHE'S A F'g *GENIUS*!
" and then said something like, "SURE babe,
I can do that just to humor you! . . ."

Anyway, I love it and I think it's literally genius, and to those who understand
where she went and what she did -
yeah, I agree with you. :cool:

foxyluva 11-22-2005 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker
I love this song SO, SO, SO much!
Just pretend this space -----> [ ] contains a 10,000 page
manifesto about it, and that should begin to give you the
idea. :rolleyes:

And by the way, Stevie wrote and arranged this ENTIRE song all
by herself (that's on inherownwords.com , or at least floating around
somewhere) so she definitely can write an entire, reasonably complex
song all by herself, from beginning to final product.

She asked Rupert Hines to accept it as is without changing it, and
I think maybe the general idea is he thought to himself "OH MY G.
SHE'S A F'g *GENIUS*!
" and then said something like, "SURE babe,
I can do that just to humor you! . . ."

Anyway, I love it and I think it's literally genius, and to those who understand
where she went and what she did -
yeah, I agree with you. :cool:


Wow, i had no idea. The song is just brilliant - i cant put it in words what it means to me right now!! Im soo glad you feel the same! Everything about this song is on point - lyrics, production, voice - everything :]

BombaySapphire3 11-22-2005 03:01 AM

I love this song .It's one of the tracks on TOSOTM where the Euro-pop production of Ruperts Hines actually enhances the song and it is the song she played for him on the piano when she was shopping for a producer.It kind of reminds me of a similar themed European hit Twist in my Sobriety by Tanita Tikarim the year before.There seems to be a small sub cult of people who really love this song.I think it along with TISL the title track, are 2 of best songs she has penned in the last 20 years.

foxyluva 11-22-2005 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3
I love this song .It's one of the tracks on TOSOTM where the Euro-pop production of Ruperts Hines actually enhances the song and it is the song she played for him on the piano when she was shopping for a producer.It kind of reminds me of a similar themed European hit Twist in my Sobriety by Tanita Tikarim the year before.There seems to be a small sub cult of people who really love this song.I think it along with TISL the title track, are 2 of best songs she has penned in the last 20 years.


OMG!! We totally have the same taste!!! TISL is one of the best songs she has ever done!! This song is what made me buy the album (It was the first stevie album i brought, and its why i love her today!) - I compeltely agree with everything you just said :blob2:

Ghost_Tracker 11-22-2005 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3
I love this song .It's one of the tracks on TOSOTM where the Euro-pop production of Ruperts Hines actually enhances the song and it is the song she played for him on the piano when she was shopping for a producer.It kind of reminds me of a similar themed European hit Twist in my Sobriety by Tanita Tikarim the year before.There seems to be a small sub cult of people who really love this song.I think it along with TISL the title track, are 2 of best songs she has penned in the last 20 years.


Rupert Hines didn't touch this one. This is all Stevie. I think there's some sort of quote about that on inherownwords.com or
someplace, about how what she gave him was the final product and he accepted it "as is."

BombaySapphire3 11-22-2005 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker
Rupert Hines didn't touch this one. This is all Stevie. I think there's some sort of quote about that on inherownwords.com or
someplace, about how what she gave him was the final product and he accepted it "as is."

The arrangement may be hers but he is listed in the liner notes as the producer if she had just produced it herself then she alone would be listed as the sole producer just like my signature song on TISL.I remember her saying she played it for him when she was looking for a producer for TOSOTM after those botched Kenny G. songs and asked if he could make something beautiful out of it .Can someone find this interview?

skcin 11-22-2005 09:54 AM

I think it's spectacular. "Here it is, in little pieces..." :nod:

JazmenFlowers 11-22-2005 10:20 AM

me loves it.

catinthedark 11-22-2005 11:02 AM

I love it, too. So devastatingly sad. With just a little tiny bit of hope. (Stevie is really good at capturing that dichotomy, isn't she? - Space Needle is another example). Both of my favourite sets of lines have already been mentioned... "So here it is... in little pieces" and "In my devastation...I wanted so to change...In my way...disaster was the only thing that I could depend on..."

Sometimes Stevie just manages to capture the feelings you think only you have ever experienced.

kak125 11-22-2005 11:06 AM

I agree that this is a fantastic song. It is one of my favorites besides Rooms on Fire and Whole Lotta Trouble on the OSOTM CD. Whenever I am having a bad day I put this song and I feel better. It is depressing but there is some hope in it. Did she ever sing this song live? I dont remember ever hearing anything about it.

JazmenFlowers 11-22-2005 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by catinthedark
Sometimes Stevie just manages to capture the feelings you think only you have ever experienced.

totally. I love to play this song on the piano very slowly.

nicksnut 11-22-2005 01:05 PM

escape..
 
i love to play this one LOUD, esp when in a bad mood. it somehow fixes it. currently one of my top 10 stevie favorites.

dissention 11-22-2005 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker
And by the way, Stevie wrote and arranged this ENTIRE song all
by herself

She's full of ****take.

David 11-22-2005 01:54 PM

If you guys actually believe that Stevie Nicks arranged the instrumentation on the album track, you're on more drugs than she was at the time.

foxyluva 11-22-2005 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by David
If you guys actually believe that Stevie Nicks arranged the instrumentation on the album track, you're on more drugs than she was at the time.

I have to say i agree - the piano demo really doesn't have the same x-factor that the recorded version has - although it does have alot of the same elements - but is that even stevie playing the piano on the demo?, it doesn't sound clunky enough :lol:

Ghost_Tracker 11-23-2005 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by catinthedark
I love it, too. So devastatingly sad. With just a little tiny bit of hope. (Stevie is really good at capturing that dichotomy, isn't she? - Space Needle is another example). Both of my favourite sets of lines have already been mentioned... "So here it is... in little pieces" and "In my devastation...I wanted so to change...In my way...disaster was the only thing that I could depend on..."

Sometimes Stevie just manages to capture the feelings you think only you have ever experienced.

But also, I love that "little voice" telling her at the end of the song,
oh IT'S all right, you're "Doin' the best that you can" -
but if you listen REAAAAL close to that song, that voice is LYIN' -
and Stevie knows that. i.m.o. that's one of the things she was
tryin' to get across in the song, and I think she did it brilliantly
and beautifully. The word "powerfully" comes to mind.

Ghost_Tracker 11-23-2005 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
She's full of ****take.


Do me a favor, tell her that some time.

dissention 11-23-2005 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker
Do me a favor, tell her that some time.

Do you honestly think that with her limited skills, she produced and arranged "Doing the Best That I Can" all by herself?

gldstwmn 11-23-2005 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Do you honestly think that with her limited skills, she produced and arranged "Doing the Best That I Can" all by herself?

I love Doing The Best I Can but I doubt she ran up to Rupert and said "Hey, let's use a stick bass on this track."

dissention 11-23-2005 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
I love Doing The Best I Can but I doubt she ran up to Rupert and said "Hey, let's use a stick bass on this track."

:laugh:

"What do you think we should do to spice this up, Stevie? What should we add and where should we add it?"

"Well, um, I play a mean tack piano, Rupert."

David 11-23-2005 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
:laugh:

"What do you think we should do to spice this up, Stevie? What should we add and where should we add it?"

"Well, um, I play a mean tack piano, Rupert."

The idea is ludicrous. If Stevie said she arranged a song, she didn't mean "arrange" in the way that I mean "arrange."

She doesn't even "arrange" her piano arrangements of her demos! She plays exactly the same patterns on song after song after song (which is undoubtedly why she thinks all her songs form one giant medley -- because the way she plays them on the piano, they ARE).

Johnny Stew 11-23-2005 03:03 PM

If I correctly remember the interview in question, Stevie didn't imply that she produced or arranged "Doing The Best That I Can," but said that she wanted the finished product to stay true to the feel of her demo, and that Rupert made that happen by not tearing the song apart and recreating it from scratch, but by essentially building upon her original, no-frills piano line.

David 11-23-2005 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
If I correctly remember the interview in question, Stevie didn't imply that she produced or arranged "Doing The Best That I Can," but said that she wanted the finished product to stay true to the feel of her demo, and that Rupert made that happen by not tearing the song apart and recreating it from scratch, but by essentially building upon her original, no-frills piano line.

Well of course I remember her saying THAT, but that's a far cry from arranging something.

Besides, there isn't much in the way of arranging on the Stevie Nicks solo albums anyway. The musicians are given demos or chord charts -- or they might hear Stevie play & sing something for them -- & they go off individually from there. That's why I chuckle a little when I hear fans say that Jimmy Iovine is one of their favorite Stevie producers for the "treatment" he gives her music. A song like "Bella Donna" or "Think About It" is essentially just letting the musicians play it live & recording it. The arrangements are worked out by the separate musicians. This is in contradistinction to a number like "Gypsy" or "Illume" or "Everybody Finds Out," where Lindsey & his cohorts have to chart stuff out & make conscious decisions about where lines should lead, in addition to deciding just what sorts of instrumentation & patches & found sounds will be present in the track, & what their function should be.

Johnny Stew 11-24-2005 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by David
Well of course I remember her saying THAT, but that's a far cry from arranging something.

Agreed!
I think the original poster wasn't quite remembering correctly, or perhaps had somewhat misinterpreted what Stevie had meant.

David 11-24-2005 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
Agreed!
I think the original poster wasn't quite remembering correctly, or perhaps had somewhat misinterpreted what Stevie had meant.

I just get all snotty & uppity, Johnny Stew. But that's my nature.

I like to think that no one is really bothered by it. I like to think I'm as predictable as Oscar the Grouch around here. "Oh, it's just Oberman ranting on."
http://www.poster.net/sesamstrasse/s...ch-9911499.jpg

Johnny Stew 11-24-2005 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by David
I just get all snotty & uppity, Johnny Stew. But that's my nature.

I like to think that no one is really bothered by it. I like to think I'm as predictable as Oscar the Grouch around here. "Oh, it's just Oberman ranting on."

Funny, I never think of you as being grouchy. Not even the comment that I was responding to.
You're too articulate, and your comments too thoughtful, to come off as mere grouchiness.

It's the pithy comments that others make, without anything substantive to qualify them, that come off as plain old fashioned grouchiness/bitchiness to me. :shrug:

Almost forgot to add that I'm in love with the photo in your signature line... do you have a larger version of that? Pretty please?

DavidMn 11-26-2005 12:19 PM

I havent listened to it much late, but I do like it.

DavidMn 11-26-2005 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by David
I just get all snotty & uppity, Johnny Stew. But that's my nature.

I like to think that no one is really bothered by it. I like to think I'm as predictable as Oscar the Grouch around here. "Oh, it's just Oberman ranting on."
http://www.poster.net/sesamstrasse/s...ch-9911499.jpg

It's all good. You are who you are, and that's allright by me.

jannieC 11-26-2005 01:31 PM

I have wanted to respond to this for a while now- I freaking LOVE this song and always have. It's most definitely in my top ten favorite Stevie Songs. I think the lyrics and the melody are haunting- love. it.

Sahara 11-26-2005 03:44 PM

Love it, love it, love it. Best song on her best album.

Serrart 11-26-2005 04:09 PM

Beautiful song, one of the few I don't find dated on TOSOTM.

Romy

foxyluva 11-27-2005 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sahara
Love it, love it, love it. Best song on her best album.

At the moment, i am inclined to agree with you. The album is sooo underated :distress: I love all the songs on there, at the moment though, i am extremely into Alice "Run for your life cried the Mad Hatter..." - Brilliant

DavidMn 11-27-2005 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
She's full of ****take.

MMM nummy mushroom

NoSpeedLimit8 11-27-2005 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva
"But I covered my tears...Silent all day. It's out of my hands here...In my devastation...I wanted so to change...In my way...disaster was the only thing that I could depend on..."

That is my favorite part of the whole song. I do love this song too. I used to listen to it all the time.


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