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gldstwmn 10-25-2005 12:12 PM

Fitzgerald has decided to seek indictments, those near inquiry say
 
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Fitzge...ents_1025.html

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has decided to seek indictments in the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson and has submitted at least one to the grand jury, those close to the investigation tell RAW STORY.

Fitzgerald will seek at least two indictments, the sources say. They note that it remains to be seen whether the grand jury will approve the charges.

Those familiar with the case state that Fitzgerald likely will not seek indictments that assert officials leaked Plame's name illegally. Rather, they say that he will focus charges in the arena of lying to investigators.

Any possible indictments are now in the hands of the grand jury. They are expected to be made public later this week.

RAW STORY has not learned who Fitzgerald is seeking to charge. Reports indicate that of those fingered in the case, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, is in the most jeopardy. President Bush's Deputy Chief of Staff, Karl Rove, also appears to have given conflicting testimony to the grand jury.

Fitzgerald could also charge those who leaked Plame Wilson's name to reporters. Rove and Libby have not been identified as the sources in Robert Novak's July 14, 2003 column which first identified Plame as a covert agent and the husband of Joseph Wilson, a critic of the Administration's Iraq intelligence. Novak cited "senior administration officials" as his sources for the report.

In a later column, Novak said one of his sources was "no partisan gunslinger."

RAW STORY revealed last week that David Wurmser and John Hannah, both aides who worked with Cheney, were cooperating with Fitzgerald's probe. The story was later confirmed by the New York Daily News.

Both were purportedly involved in passing information about Plame. Last week, Hannah's lawyer told Newsweek his client "knew nothing" about the leak and is not a target of Fitzgerald's investigation.

DavidMn 10-25-2005 12:18 PM

I really hope that whatever happens, justice is served. I dont care what party these people belong to, if it's true that they put an operatives life in danger, there should be severe punishment.:mad:

dissention 10-25-2005 04:21 PM

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001031.html

Indictments Coming Tomorrow; Targets Received Letters Today

An uber-insider source has just reported the following to TWN:

1. 1-5 indictments are being issued. The source feels that it will be towards the higher end.

2. The targets of indictment have already received their letters.

3. The indictments will be sealed indictments and "filed" tomorrow.

4. A press conference is being scheduled for Thursday.

SuzeQuze 10-25-2005 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001031.html

Indictments Coming Tomorrow; Targets Received Letters Today

An uber-insider source has just reported the following to TWN:

1. 1-5 indictments are being issued. The source feels that it will be towards the higher end.

2. The targets of indictment have already received their letters.

3. The indictments will be sealed indictments and "filed" tomorrow.

4. A press conference is being scheduled for Thursday.

Wowza. Tomorrow could be very interesting.
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Nixxxed 10-25-2005 04:35 PM

I'm also hoping for a huge list of unindicted co-conspirators.

dissention 10-25-2005 04:39 PM

Don't get your hopes up. The indictments might be sealed initially.

Brwn_eyes0511 10-25-2005 04:40 PM

PLEASE let Ann's column tomorrow cover this!

This is going to be exciting! GOD I LOVE POLITICS!

I'm moving to Washington...

strandinthewind 10-25-2005 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Don't get your hopes up. The indictments might be sealed initially.

Perhaps - but you and I both know the major players in DC will leak it.

markolas 10-25-2005 05:54 PM

Oh, god...when I first saw the thread title, I thought it said "Fitzgerald has declined to seek indictments. I was like...OMGWTF?!:laugh:

strandinthewind 10-25-2005 08:02 PM

Poll: Few doubt wrongdoing in CIA leak
Neighbor questioned with prosecutor's grand jury set to expire

(CNN) -- Only one in 10 Americans said they believe Bush administration officials did nothing illegal or unethical in connection with the leaking of a CIA operative's identity, according to a national poll released Tuesday.

Thirty-nine percent said some administration officials acted illegally in the matter, in which the identity of Valerie Plame, a CIA operative, was revealed.

The same percentage of respondents in the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll said Bush administration officials acted unethically, but did nothing illegal.

The poll questioned 1,008 adults October 21-23 and has a sampling error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.

Federal law makes it a crime to deliberately reveal the identity of a covert CIA operative, and special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is heading a probe into the matter.

With the grand jury investigating the leak set to expire Friday, FBI agents interviewed a Washington neighbor of Plame for a second time.

The agents asked Marc Lefkowitz on Monday night whether he knew about Plame's CIA work before her identity was leaked in the media, and Lefkowitz told agents he did not, according to his wife, Elise Lefkowitz.

Lefkowitz said agents first questioned whether the couple was aware of Plame's CIA work in an interview several months ago.

Plame and her husband, retired State Department career diplomat Joseph Wilson, have accused Bush administration officials of deliberately leaking her identity to the media to retaliate against Wilson after he published an opinion piece in The New York Times.

The July 2003 article cast doubt on a key assertion in the Bush administration's arguments for war with Iraq -- that Iraq had sought to purchase uranium for a suspected nuclear weapons program in Africa.

Wilson, who was acting ambassador to Iraq before the 1991 Persian Gulf War, said the CIA sent him to Niger, in central Africa, to investigate the uranium claim in February 2002 and that he found no evidence such a transaction occurred and it was unlikely it could have. (Full story)

Days after Wilson's article was published, Plame's identity was exposed in a piece by syndicated columnist and longtime CNN contributor Robert Novak.

President Bush's top political adviser, Karl Rove, has testified before the Fitzgerald grand jury that he believes it was I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, who first told him that Plame worked for the CIA and had a role in sending her husband to Africa, according to a source familiar with Rove's testimony.

New York Times reporter Judith Miller spent 85 days in jail for contempt before finally agreeing last month to tell grand jurors that Libby told her Wilson's wife may have worked at the CIA, although she said Libby did not identify Plame by name or describe her as a covert agent or operative.

Libby has also testified before the grand jury.

The New York Times reported Tuesday that notes in Fitzgerald's possession suggest that Libby first heard of the CIA officer from Cheney himself. (Full story)

The Times said its sources in the story were lawyers involved in the case.

Cheney said in September 2003 that he had seen no report from Wilson after his assignment in Africa.

"I don't know Joe Wilson. I've never met Joe Wilson. I don't know who sent Joe Wilson. He never submitted a report that I ever saw when he came back," he told NBC.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan on Tuesday declined to specifically address the Times report.

"The policy of this White House has been to carry out the direction of the president, which is to cooperate fully with the special prosecutor," he said.

"There's a lot of speculation that is going on right now. There are many facts that are not known. The work of the special prosecutor continues and we look forward to him successfully concluding his investigation," he said.

The Justice Department opened a criminal probe in September 2003 at the request of the CIA.

Fitzgerald, the U.S. attorney in Chicago, Illinois, was named special prosecutor at the end of 2003 after then-Attorney General John Ashcroft recused himself from the probe.

Once the grand jury term expires, Fitzgerald could ask for an extension of the grand jury's service, request indictments or end the probe without bringing charges.

CNN's Kelli Arena contributed to this report.

Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/...eak/index.html

irishgrl 10-25-2005 08:14 PM

Personally, I'd like to see Fitzy ask for an extension...I'd love to see the higher ups squirm a bit more....

amber 10-25-2005 08:45 PM

:blob2: :blob2: :blob2:
Best thing that's happened in politics in five years.
thanks for posting.

dissention 10-26-2005 11:50 AM

Nothing's going down today, dammit. Christ. I can't take it anymore.

gldstwmn 10-26-2005 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Nothing's going down today, dammit. Christ. I can't take it anymore.

Too bad we don't live close enough to hold each other up.:laugh: This **** is wearing me out, with all the talk of sealed indictments now. I hope we haven't been punked. We've been waiting five long years for this.

dissention 10-26-2005 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Too bad we don't live close enough to hold each other up.:laugh:

The two of us would be drunk off our asses by now, trying to numb the pain the waiting has induced. :laugh:

Quote:

Originally Posted by gldstwmn
This **** is wearing me out, with all the talk of sealed indictments now. I hope we haven't been punked. We've been waiting five long years for this.

Don't think such things. You don't want to jinx it, dear. If nothing come sof this, I'll be truly devastated.

SuzeQuze 10-26-2005 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
The two of us would be drunk off our asses by now, trying to numb the pain the waiting has induced. :laugh:



Don't think such things. You don't want to jinx it, dear. If nothing come sof this, I'll be truly devastated.

:lol: You? Drunk? Well, if you must, I'll have to make you and Chris my famous Cosmos, made with homemade cranberry liquer served in my fabulous Mikasa martini glasses. :laugh:

dissention 10-26-2005 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
:lol: You? Drunk? Well, if you must, I'll have to make you and Chris my famous Cosmos, made with homemade cranberry liquer served in my fabulous Mikasa martini glasses. :laugh:

Hon, I am so ready to break out the booze at this point. I can't handle this any longer. :laugh:

SuzeQuze 10-26-2005 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
Hon, I am so ready to break out the booze at this point. I can't handle this any longer. :laugh:

You can't? Imagine how our "poor President" is doing! He has probably resorted to keeping a flask with him at all times! :rolleyes:

dissention 10-26-2005 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
You can't? Imagine how our "poor President" is doing! He has probably resorted to keeping a flask with him at all times! :rolleyes:

Yeah, his hula jaw gave as much away. :angel:

gldstwmn 10-26-2005 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
Yeah, his hula jaw gave as much away. :angel:

His stash rivals Stevie's on the Rock A Little tour. :laugh:

gldstwmn 10-26-2005 10:12 PM

Fitz rents extra office space:

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001033.html

dissention 10-26-2005 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Cross your fingers and your toes that tomorrow is the day, sweetheart. If it doesn't happen tomorrow, I'm getting sloshed.

strandinthewind 10-26-2005 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
. . . I'm getting sloshed.

I am flying up for that :laugh:

Of course, considering the new budget constraints and all, we could video conference it :laugh:

dissention 10-26-2005 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I am flying up for that :laugh:

Of course, considering the new budget constraints and all, we could video conference it :laugh:

Just don't let me get anywhere near BrownEyes if I'm drunk.

strandinthewind 10-26-2005 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
Just don't let me get anywhere near BrownEyes if I'm drunk.

I'll make sure that does not happen :laugh:

OOOOOO - CNN crawl :

JUST IN

WASH POST - GRAND JURY DECISION ON FRIDAY

dissention 10-26-2005 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I'll make sure that does not happen :laugh:

OOOOOO - CNN crawl :

JUST IN

WASH POST - GRAND JURY DECISION ON FRIDAY

:cool:

Another f*cking day. Grr. Figures they'd dump it at the start of the weekend.

gldstwmn 10-26-2005 10:22 PM

http://www2.boomantribune.com/story/...0/26/105036/84

The probe is far from being at an end. According to this reporter's sources, Fitzgerald approached the judge in charge of the case and asked that a new grand jury be empaneled. The old grand jury, which has been sitting for two years, will expire on October 28.

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

gldstwmn 10-26-2005 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I'll make sure that does not happen :laugh:

OOOOOO - CNN crawl :

JUST IN

WASH POST - GRAND JURY DECISION ON FRIDAY

Here's the linky:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...102600532.html

dissention 10-26-2005 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gldstwmn
http://www2.boomantribune.com/story/...0/26/105036/84

The probe is far from being at an end. According to this reporter's sources, Fitzgerald approached the judge in charge of the case and asked that a new grand jury be empaneled. The old grand jury, which has been sitting for two years, will expire on October 28.

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...102600532.html

The prosecutor in the CIA leak investigation presented a summary of his case to a federal grand jury yesterday and is expected to announce a final decision on charges in the two-year-long probe tomorrow, according to people familiar with the case.

:shrug:

strandinthewind 10-26-2005 10:46 PM

Let's hope it is tommorow!!!!!!

dissention 10-26-2005 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Let's hope it is tommorow!!!!!!

Could be!
Who knows?
There's something due any day;
I will know right away,
Soon as it shows.
It may come cannonballing down through the sky,
Gleam in its eye,
Bright as a rose!

Who knows?
It's only just out of reach,
Down the block, on a beach,
Under a tree.
I got a feeling there's a miracle due,
Gonna come true,
Coming to me!

Could it be? Yes, it could.
Something's coming, something good,
If I can wait!
Something's coming, I don't know what it is,
But it is
Gonna be great!

macfanken 10-26-2005 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Let's hope it is tommorow!!!!!!


The rumor I heard is that he wants to widen the investigation and will ask for an extension.

Brwn_eyes0511 10-26-2005 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macfanken
The rumor I heard is that he wants to widen the investigation and will ask for an extension.

KEN!!!!!


I doubt that will happen.



KEN!!!

dissention 10-26-2005 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macfanken
The rumor I heard is that he wants to widen the investigation and will ask for an extension.

He gets an automatic six month extension if he asks, so it could very well happen.

Brwn_eyes0511 10-26-2005 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
He gets an automatic six month extension if he asks, so it could very well happen.

What I was saying though is that I doubt he will even ask. However I could be wrong.

strandinthewind 10-27-2005 10:44 AM

Special prosecutor is focusing on whether presidential adviser Karl Rove committed perjury in CIA leak probe, sources tell CNN.

from cnn.com

gldstwmn 10-27-2005 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Special prosecutor is focusing on whether presidential adviser Karl Rove committed perjury in CIA leak probe, sources tell CNN.

from cnn.com

Then he's already been indicted because only one side of this is leaking and it's the attorneys for the accused. I'll bet you.:nod:

strandinthewind 10-27-2005 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Then he's already been indicted because only one side of this is leaking and it's the attorneys for the accused. I'll bet you.:nod:

I cannot WAIT to see how W and the posse handle this. Will they go the Kay Baily way and say perjury is just so pesky - will he fire Rove - will he blow up the Empire State building :eek:

gldstwmn 10-27-2005 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I cannot WAIT to see how W and the posse handle this. Will they go the Kay Baily way and say perjury is just so pesky - will he fire Rove - will he blow up the Empire State building :eek:

That's just the thing. Who knows? :]

gldstwmn 10-27-2005 10:50 AM

I also heard that they may do a Friday afternoon announcement as they would like the markets to be closed. I must say, I am all for that.


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