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strandinthewind 10-24-2005 02:38 PM

Narnia
 
http://www.moviefone.com/narnia.


Go here for the trailer.

I love this kind of stuff and cannot wait to see this!!!!!!!!!!!!

dissention 10-24-2005 02:39 PM

It should be a huge hit with the fundies. Jeb Bush is seeing to that. :laugh:

I'm a huge fan of Tilda Swinton, but I don't know if I'll end up seeing it.

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
It should be a huge hit with the fundies. Jeb Bush is seeing to that. :laugh:

I'm a huge fan of Tilda Swinton, but I don't know if I'll end up seeing it.

Well, it is very religious in its underlying message, etc.

But, the books were great even without that :shrug:

Brwn_eyes0511 10-24-2005 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
It should be a huge hit with the fundies. Jeb Bush is seeing to that. :laugh:

I'm a huge fan of Tilda Swinton, but I don't know if I'll end up seeing it.

:shocked:

Josh + C.S. Lewis = non workable equation.

dissention 10-24-2005 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Well, it is very religious in its underlying message, etc.

But, the books were great even without that :shrug:

I just find it funny that the movie is being released by a company that donates loads to Republicans (Walden Media) and Jeb Bush is telling the children of Florida to read the book so that they can participate in the "Just Read, Florida" contest.

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I just find it funny that the movie is being released by a company that donates loads to Republicans (Walden Media) and Jeb Bush is telling the children of Florida to read the book so that they can participate in the "Just Read, Florida" contest.

But, that book is on many many other lists :shrug: It is considered a modern classic children's story :shrug:

Brwn_eyes0511 10-24-2005 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I just find it funny that the movie is being released by a company that donates loads to Republicans (Walden Media) and Jeb Bush is telling the children of Florida to read the book so that they can participate in the "Just Read, Florida" contest.

C.S. Lewis is great.

You find a problem with EVERYTHING that involved Christianity don't you? :lol:

dissention 10-24-2005 02:48 PM

Oh, and the last book that "Just Read, Florida" sponsored (Carl Hiaasen's "Hoot") is also being made into a movie. By Walden Media. :laugh:

dissention 10-24-2005 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511
C.S. Lewis is great.

You find a problem with EVERYTHING that involved Christianity don't you? :lol:

When the government is sponsoring it, you can bet your ass I do.

amber 10-24-2005 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
But, that book is on many many other lists :shrug: It is considered a modern classic children's story :shrug:

I love those books, which is why I don't want to see a movie version. You know, all christianity aside?

Brwn_eyes0511 10-24-2005 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
When the government is sponsoring it, you can bet your ass I do.

Boring...

It's time to get over it Josh! :D

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Oh, and the last book that "Just Read, Florida" sponsored (Carl Hiaasen's "Hoot") is also being made into a movie. By Walden Media. :laugh:

Sadly, I have not read that one, but Carl Hiasson's other books have been slamming to the anti environmentalists - so how is that a right wing thing?

Brwn_eyes0511 10-24-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Sadly, I have not read that one, but Carl Hiasson's other books have been slamming to the anti environmentalists - so how is that a right wing thing?

shockingly not all conservatives are anti-environment. :rolleyes:

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
I love those books, which is why I don't want to see a movie version. You know, all christianity aside?

Well, that is assinine. The LOTR movies were good if not great adaptations of Tolkein's great works and pretty much all movies come from books. So, are you saying no book should ever be made into a movie.

dissention 10-24-2005 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
so how is that a right wing thing?

I never said this particular thing (Hiaasen's book) was necessarily a "right-wing thing," I just find the partnership between the state of Florida and Walden Media to be interesting.

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
When the government is sponsoring it, you can bet your ass I do.

I agree, but I fail to see how reading the Chronicles of Narnia is supporting one religion. I mean are kids never supposed to read anything that has any religious message at all. If so, then all books prior to like 1849 would have to be omitted and most of today's classics as well.

I mean in theory LOTR is about a religion - should that not be read. Should all of the Greek Mythology not be read. Should Plato, Aristotle, etc. not be allowed? They all are heavily religious in theme.

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I never said this particular thing (Hiaasen's book) was necessarily a "right-wing thing," I just find the partnership between the state of Florida and Walden Media to be interesting.

How so??????

Brwn_eyes0511 10-24-2005 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I agree, but I fail to see how reading the Chronicles of Narnia is supporting one religion. I mean are kids never supposed to read anything that has any religious message at all. If so, then all books prior to like 1949 would have to be omitted and most of today's classics as well.

Exactly. Forget the wonderful poetry of Milton and such...

There is so much Christian literature out there in public schools...what do you plan we do Josh, stage a burning?

dissention 10-24-2005 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I agree, but I fail to see how reading the Chronicles of Narnia is supporting one religion. I mean are kids never supposed to read anything that has any religious message at all. If so, then all books prior to like 1949 would have to be omitted and most of today's classics as well.

Go to the "Just Read, Florida" website. They link to Walden Media, which has a whole section on "17-week Narnia Bible Study for children." The book itself is pretty much an alternative telling of the story of Christ.

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Go to the "Just Read, Florida" website. They link to Walden Media, which has a whole section on "17-week Narnia Bible Study for children." The book itself is pretty much an alternative telling of the story of Christ.

. . .and the Illiad and the Odessy are religious prables as well. Should we ban them?

Brwn_eyes0511 10-24-2005 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
. . .and the Illiad and the Odessy are religious prables as well. Should we ban them?

burn them. :rolleyes:

dissention 10-24-2005 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
How so??????

I don't know, use your brain. Walden Media, a company owned by big Republican donor Phil Anschutz, is getting all this publicity for their movie projects from Jeb Bush and the state of Florida. I find that interesting, but you may not.

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Go to the "Just Read, Florida" website. They link to Walden Media, which has a whole section on "17-week Narnia Bible Study for children." The book itself is pretty much an alternative telling of the story of Christ.

Here is the site, which has no such link I could find

http://www.justreadflorida.com/

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I don't know, use your brain. Walden Media, a company owned by big Republican donor Phil Anschutz, is getting all this publicity for their movie projects from Jeb Bush and the state of Florida. I find that interesting, but you may not.

Well, there is no secret that they are religious zealots. But, that does not make The Chonicles of Narnia less of a classic does it?

dissention 10-24-2005 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Here is the site, which has no such link I could find

http://www.justreadflorida.com/

They must have removed it after all the hoopla earlier this month.

Brwn_eyes0511 10-24-2005 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
They must have removed it after all the hoopla earlier this month.

Are you sure that it was EVER even there?

dissention 10-24-2005 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
But, that does not make The Chonicles of Narnia less of a classic does it?

Have I argued such a thing? I think not. All I said was that I don't particularly care for the government promoting a book that retells the story of Christ. You don't have to agree with me, dollface.

dissention 10-24-2005 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511
Are you sure that it was EVER even there?

Considering I went to it using the "Just Read, Florida" website, yes, I am.

amber 10-24-2005 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Well, that is assinine. The LOTR movies were good if not great adaptations of Tolkein's great works and pretty much all movies come from books. So, are you saying no book should ever be made into a movie.

Yep. Oh, and I don't like LOTR. Not that that makes it bad, of course.
I don't want to see people act out those parts, and everything else. I can't envision them doing such a good job that I will like the movie. :shrug:
It's possible, and I hope they do, but I really doubt it.
I'm so glad you included the word "assinine" in that post, too. That was extra special. :)

Brwn_eyes0511 10-24-2005 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Considering I went to it using the "Just Read, Florida" website, yes, I am.

Ok. I believe you.

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Have I argued such a thing? I think not. All I said was that I don't particularly care for the government promoting a book that retells the story of Christ. You don't have to agree with me, dollface.

Here is the Brevard County reading list:

Kindergarten

Moongame, Frank Asch
Any title by Byron Barton
Any title by Stan Berenstain
It Begins With A, Stephanie Calmenson
The Very Busy Spider, Eric Carle
Any title by Eric Carle
Ten Black Dots, Donald Crews
Tomie DePaola's Mother Goose, Tomie DePaola
Color Zoo, Lois Ehlert
The Three Little Pigs, Paul Galdone
I Read Signs, Tana Hoban
Any title by Tana Hoban
Peter's Chair, Ezra Jack Keats
Ten Apples Up on Top!, Theo Lesieg
Froggy Learns to Swim, Jonathan London
Alphabetics, Suse MacDonald
Brown Bear, Brown Bear, What Do you See?, Bill Martin, Jr.
Chicka Chicka Boom Boom, Bill Martin, Jr.
The Little Engine That Could, Watty Piper
Any Curious George book, H. A. Rey
Richard Scarry's Best Mother Goose Book, Richard Scarry
Where The Wild Things Are, Maurice Sendak
The Cat in the Hat, Dr. Seuss
Hop on Pop, Dr. Seuss
Any additional title by Dr. Seuss
Have You Seen My Duckling, Nancy Tafari
Mouse Count, Ellen Walsh
Cat on the Mat, Brian Wildsmith

Grade One

What Comes in 2's, 3's, and 4's?, Suzanne Aker
Goodbye House, Frank Asch
Goodnight Moon, Margaret Wise Brown
The Very Hungry Caterpillar, Eric Carle
School Bus, Donald Crews
Color Farm, Lois Ehlert
Eating the Alphabet, Eric Ehlert
Zoo, Gail Gibbons
Jessica, Kevin Henkes
I Read Signs, Tana Hoban
Look! Look! Look!, Tana Hoban
Rosie's Walk, Pat Hutchins
Alphabetics, Suse MacDonald
Chicka Chicka Boom Boom, Bill Martin, Jr.
All By Myself, Mercer Mayer
Blueberries for Sal, Robert McCloskey
If You Give a Mouse a Cookie, Laura Numeroff
Curious George Goes to School, H. A. Rey
In Our House, Anne Rockwell
We're Going on a Bear Hunt, Michael Rosen
My Many Colored Days, Dr. Seuss
Mouse Paint, Ellen Stoll Walsh
Timothy Goes to School, Rosemary Wells
I Went Walking, Sue Williams
The Napping House, Audrey Wood

Grade Two

Miss Nelson Is Missing, James Allard
Flat Stanley, Jeff Brown
Arthur's Eyes, Marc Brown
The Little House, Virginia Burton
Stellaluna, Janell Cannon
The Josefina Story Quilt, Eleanor Coerr
Miss Rumphius, Barbara Cooney
Clean Your Room, Harvey Moon!, Pat Cummings
Corduroy, Don Freeman
Millions of Cats, Wanda Gag
My Father's Dragon, Ruth Gannett
Today Was a Terrible Day, Patricia Giff
Grasshopper on the Road, Arnold Lobel
Mouse Soup, Arnold Lobel
If You Give a Mouse a Cookie, Laura Joffe Numeroff
Molly the Brave and Me, Jane O'Conner
Any book from the Magic Tree House Series, Mary Pope Osborne
Amelia Bedelia, Peggy Parish
The Rainbow Fish, Marcus Pfister
The True Story of the Three Little Pigs, Jon Scieszka
Any book from the Nate the Great Series, Marjorie W. Sharmat
Alexander and the Horrible, No Good Very Bad Day, Judith Viorst
The Biggest Bear, Lynd Ward
Owl Moon, Jane Yolen
A New Coat for Anna, Harriet Ziefert

Grade Three

Cam Jansen and the Chocolate Fudge Mystery, David A. Alder
Miss Nelson Has a Field Day, Harry Allard
Otherwise Known as Sheila the Great, Judy Blume
Gerbils, Pets, and Other Small Rodents, Ray Broekel
Julian, Secret Agent, Ann Cameron
Man Out at First, Matt Christopher
Ramona the Brave, Beverly Clearly
Case for Jenny Archer, Ellen Conford
Fantastic Mr. Fox, Roald Dahl
Comets, Asteroids, and Meteors, Dennis Fradin
Busybody Nora, Johanna Hurwitz
Herbie Jones and the Class Gift, Suzy Kline
Rocks and Minerals, Illa Podendorf
Whales and Sea Mammals, Elsa Posella
Something Big Has Been Here, Jack Prelutsky
Soccer, Bert Rosenthal
Endangered Animals, Lynn M. Stone
Amusement Park Mystery, Gertrude Warner
Camp Out Mystery, Gertrude Warner
On the Way Home, Laura Ingles Wilder

Grade Four

Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing, Judy Blume
Dear Mr. Henshaw, Beverly Cleary
If You're Not Here Raise Your Hand, Kalli Dakos
Aliens for Breakfast, Jonathan Etra
The People Could Fly: American Black Folk Tales, Virginia Hamilton
Misty of Chincoteague, Marguerite Henry
Bunnicula, James and Deborah Howe
Babe the Gallant Pig, Dick King-Smith
Arthur for the Very First Time, Patricia MacLachlan
Homer Price, Robert McCloskey
The Fear Place, Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
Shiloh, Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
Mayfield Crossing, Vaunda Micheaux Nelson
Skinnybones, Barbara Park
The Green Book, Jill Paton Walsh
Minty: Story of a Young Harriet Tubman, Alan Schroeder
Fourth Grade Rats, Jerry Spinelli
Abel's Island, William Steig
The Mysteries of Harris Burdick, Chris Van Allsburg
The Castle in the Attic, Elizabeth Winthrop

Grade Five

Poppy, Avi
Followers of the North Star, Susan Lechner & Susan Alman
In the Eyes of the Cat: Japanese Poetry for All Seasons, Demi
Around the World in a Hundred Years, Jean Fritz
This Time, Tempe Wick?, Patricia Lee Gauch
Five Brave Explorers, Wade Hudson
Helen Keller: The Story of My Life, Helen Keller
To Walk the Sky Path, Phyllis R. Naylor
Rosa Parks, My Story, Rosa Parks
Indian in the Cupboard, Lynne Reid Banks
The Return of the Indian in the Cupboard, Lynne Reid Banks
The Secret of the Indian, Lynne Reid Banks
Heartland, Diane Seibert
The Light in the Attic, Shel Silverstein
Call It Courage, Armstrong Sperry
Looking for Pa: a Civil War Journal, Geraldine Lee Susi
Follow the Drinking Gourd, Jeanette Winter
Dear Levi: Letters from the Overland Trail, Elvira Woodruff
Middle SchoolFiction and Nonfiction
Watership Down, Richard Adams
Little Women, Louisa May Alcott
Sounder, William Armstrong
Tuck Everlasting, Natalie Babbitt
Stories of Gods and Heroes, Sally Benson
Cross Section, Stephen Biesty
Tiger Eyes, Judy Blume
Histories of Immigrant Teens, Janet Bode
The Moves Make the Man, Bruce Brooks
The Secret Garden, Frances H. Burnett
Summer of the Swans, Betsy Byars
White Mountains, John Christopher
House on Mango Street, Sandra Cisneros
A Girl from Yamhill, Beverly Cleary
My Brother Sam Is Dead, James and Chris Collier
Face on the Milk Carton, Caroline Cooney
Catherine, Called Birdie, Karen Cushman
D'Aulaire's Book of Greek Myths, Ingri and Edgar D'Aulaire
The Courage of Sara Noble, Alice Dalgliesh
Great Expectations, Charles Dickens
Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, Frederick Douglass
April Morning, Howard Fast
Zlata's Diary, Zlata Filipovic
Anne Frank: The Diary of a Young Girl, Anne Frank
Johnny Tremain, Elizabeth Forbes
The Wright Brothers, Russell Freedman
My Side of the Mountain, Jean Craighead George
Summer of My German Soldier, Bette Greene
Phoebe and the General, Judith Griffin
M.C. Higgins the Great, Virginia Hamilton
The Trouble with Lemons, Daniel Hayes
Eye of the Beholder, Daniel Hayes
The Old Man and the Sea, Ernest Hemingway
Hiroshima, Jon Hersey
The Outsiders, S. E. Hinton
Thank You, Ma'am, Langston Hughes
Charles, Shirley Jackson
Phantom Tollbooth, Norton Juster
From the Mixed Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler, E. L. Konigsburg
21 Great Stories, Abraham lass
To Kill a Mockingbird, Harper Lee
The Call of the Wild, Jack London
Number of the Stars, Lois Lowry
Skylark, Patricia MacLachlan
Anne of Greene Gables, Lucy Maud Montgomery
Owls in the Family, Farley Mowat
Scopes Trial, Jim Murphy
Fallen Angels, Walter Dean Myers
Shiloh, Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
Island of the Blue Dolphins, Scott O'Dell
Animal Farm, George Orwell
Lyddie, Katherine Patterson
Hatchet, Gary Paulsen
The Foxman, Gary Paulsen
The Giver, Gary Paulsen
Woodsong, Gary Paulsen
Westing Fame, Ellen Raskin
Where the Red Fern Grows, Wilson Rawls
The Upstairs Room, Johanna Reiss
Journey Room, Johanna Reiss
Killer Angels, Michael Shaara
Call It Courage, Armstrong Sperry
Maniac Magee, Jerry Spinelli
The Pearl, John Steinbeck
Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry, Mildred Taylor
The Cay, Theodore Taylor
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, Mark Twain
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Mark Twain
The Homecoming, Cynthia Voigt
So Far from the Bamboo Grove, Yoko Kawashima Watkins
Night, Terry Ann White
Dragonwings, Lawrence Yep
The Pigmen, Paul Zindel
Folklore
The Crest and the Hide and Other African Stories, Harold Cowlander
The People Could Fly, Virginia Hamilton
Three Strong Women, Claus Stamm
Favorite Folktales from Around the World, Jane Yolen

Fantasy and Science Fiction
Book of Three, Lloyd Alexander
I. Robot, Isaac Asimov
Fahrenheit 451, Ray Bradbury
Martian Chronicles, Ray Bradbury
Moss Flower, Brian Jacques
Monster's Ring, Bruce Coville
George's Marvelous Medicine, Roald Dahl
The Ear, The Eye, and the Arm, Nancy Farmer
Mythical Monsters, Charles Gould
Swiftly Tilting Planet, Madeleine L'Engle
Dragonquest, Anne McCaffrey
The Hobbit, J. R. R. Tolkien
War of the Worlds, H. G. Wells
Great Grandfather's Dragon Tale, Jane Yolen

Poetry
The Sun is On, Linda Michelle Barron
Reflections on a Gift of Watermelon, Stephen Dunning
Joyful Noise, Paul Fleischman
You Come Too, Robert Frost
Inner Chimes, Bobbi Goldstein
Dreams, Langston Hughes
The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Wadsworth, Williams Longfellow
The Highwayman, Alfred Noyes


High School

The Fellowship of the Ring, Tolkien
To Kill a Mockingbird, Lee
The Joy Luck Club, Tan
A Tale of Two Cities, Dickens
Heart of Darkness, Conrad
Catcher in the Rye, Salinger
The Killer Angels, Shaara
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Kesey
Girl with a Pearl Earring, Chevalier
Anne Frank: Diary of a Young Girl, Frank
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This is hardly a Jesus only list :shrug:

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
. . . I'm so glad you included the word "assinine" in that post, too. That was extra special. :)

You are welcome.

dissention 10-24-2005 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
This is hardly a Jesus only list :shrug:

What's your point? There shouldn't be any Jesus books, period. Unless it's for educational purposes in history classes, and only if it isn't endorsed and is tempered with other viewpoints, religion has no place in public schools.

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
They must have removed it after all the hoopla earlier this month.

Thank goodness!!!!!

strandinthewind 10-24-2005 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
What's your point? There shouldn't be any Jesus books, period. Unless it's for educational purposes in history classes, and only if it isn't endorsed and is tempered with other viewpoints, religion has no place in public schools.

Nanaria is such a thing. Kids read it because it is educational, well written, etc. - just like all those other books on the list, which is why I posted the list.

Brwn_eyes0511 10-24-2005 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Here is the Brevard County reading list:


WHERE THE F*CK IS WUTHERING HEIGHTS and all of the other wonderful British novels?

Brwn_eyes0511 10-24-2005 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
What's your point? There shouldn't be any Jesus books, period. Unless it's for educational purposes in history classes, and only if it isn't endorsed and is tempered with other viewpoints, religion has no place in public schools.

Reason # 117 of why there should be no public schools.

When I was in HS I took a "Bible as History" class. And, yes, I went to a public school...unfortunately.

mylittledemon 10-24-2005 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Well, it is very religious in its underlying message, etc.

But, the books were great even without that :shrug:



???????

The books have a very Christian message. The whole story with the Lion sacrificing himself...then returning to life because he was innocent. At any rate, the books are EXCELLENT...i've been reading them since I was young.

CreepingDeath 10-24-2005 03:44 PM

I've liked The Chronicles of Narnia since I was a kid and can't wait for the movies. I'm a little weary as to how good they'll be though. Some things are ok to read, like talking animals for example, but might end up looking very comical on the big screen.

amber 10-24-2005 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CreepingDeath
I've liked The Chronicles of Narnia since I was a kid and can't wait for the movies. I'm a little weary as to how good they'll be though. Some things are ok to read, like talking animals for example, but might end up looking very comical on the big screen.

Thank you.


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